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Afghanistan defeat Pakistan by three wickets in World Cup 2019 warm-up match

Sarfraz is the worst captain in world cricket right now. He doesn't contribute with the bat, wicket-keeping is poor, field placings are terrible, doesn't know when to attack or defend and picks the wrong bowlers for pretty much every situation. Needs to be removed before the world cup begins by hook or by crook!
 
Stewie said:
Only when the ball/balls are old.. by the last ten overs, we have already lost the game. Someone needs to step up and start producing those wickets with the new ball.
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Dont underrate him
He got experience and skill.. Can ve lethal if conditions favoured
 
I wonder how many of these guys are fasting today. The whole team sounds sleepy and lacking energy. May be it is just for being a warm up. Good bowling in the end for a change by Wahab but not the opposition to gauge anything out. Wrist slitters would have something to say again just like CT 2017 beginning. In my opinion, Pakistan is just lacking energy in the field and hopefully we will get it just the right time during this WC.
 
Can someone please ask Sarfraz why did he do what he just did? Why would you give the ball to a spinner with only 14 runs needed, and the said spinner going for more than 6 RPO?

Why would Shadab proceed to bowl a leg-stump half volley at 113 kph, suddenly? Specially with the fine leg up?

Can someone please make sense of this?
 
Usman Chadda said:
Can someone please ask Sarfraz why did he do what he just did? Why would you give the ball to a spinner with only 14 runs needed, and the said spinner going for more than 6 RPO?

Why would Shadab proceed to bowl a leg-stump half volley at 113 kph, suddenly? Specially with the fine leg up?

Can someone please make sense of this?
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The second bit makes sense, shadab bowls two crap deliveries every over
 
Hashmatullah as a Finisher >>>>> All the fake finishers in this Pakistani line up!

He scored some 97 in their last match in Asia cup but couldn't win it for their team. But today showed better temperament and class and finished it against the same attack! A lesson to all those fake finishers like Imad who is rated highly as a finisher on this forum! :))
 
Usman Chadda said:
Can someone please ask Sarfraz why did he do what he just did? Why would you give the ball to a spinner with only 14 runs needed, and the said spinner going for more than 6 RPO?

Why would Shadab proceed to bowl a leg-stump half volley at 113 kph, suddenly? Specially with the fine leg up?

Can someone please make sense of this?
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I told you already how pathetic he is as a captain and you keep on telling me no one in Pakistan is better. No one in Pakistan has common sense then ?
 
TracerBullet1 said:
Dont underrate him
He got experience and skill.. Can ve lethal if conditions favoured
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Who is under rating Wahab? You need to read carefully. He is drafted in for death bowling and he did exceptionally well. But don’t let that take the spotlight away from
The real problem.. new ball bowling.. we are not getting wickets in the first ten overs and it’s a big big worry. My opinion, they should sic Hassan and Hasnain on batsmen in the first overs.
Use amir for middle
Overs.


But we do need wickets in the first tens that’s where all our problems are starting from!
 
Hamid: "Yahooooo.... Kabul is celebrating as we have won the world cup..."

Unki choti choti kushiya
 
Hasan123 said:
I told you already how pathetic he is as a captain and you keep on telling me no one in Pakistan is better. No one in Pakistan has common sense then ?
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I firmly believe he threw this match, mate. That over was as dodgy as it comes. Even an amateur wouldn't make this mistake.
 
I have the same question and I dont even post here much.. why did Sarfaraz give over to shadab when ball was reversing with amir and hasnain's overs left? Why, just why???
 
Pakistan will play down this defeat, but that was a bad loss.

I don't know where this team is heading really.

Morale seems to be low and the gameplan confusing.
 
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Bowl was reversing and captain bowled a spinner for 49th. Strange to say the least :jk
 
Guys remember this is a practice match. It's ment to fine tune last bits of problems before the actual games begins. Don't take the loss too hard. But hope this also serves as a humble pie moment for people who thought AFG was as easy as they come. Like I said before, this WC will be one of the most closely fought tournament. Almost every team is on neck to neck with each other.
 
I hope mickey gives a chitrol to sarfraz for introducing shadab in the 49th over no spinner(even the likes of kuldeep,rashid or chahal) could defend those runs with a set batsman on strike.
 
light said:
Guys remember this is a practice match. It's ment to fine tune last bits of problems before the actual games begins. Don't take the loss too hard. But hope this also serves as a humble pie moment for people who thought AFG was as easy as they come. Like I said before, this WC will be one of the most closely fought tournament. Almost every team is on neck to neck with each other.
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Choti choti khushiyan hain in logon.ki.Let them enjoy,as our afghan brothers have suffered alot.
 
A team who can defeat top teams but also at a same time they can lose to a minnow in Icc tournaments is called as a Pakistan team
 
I think John Wright nailed it when during the commentary he said we have the players, we just need to figure out where and when to use them and bowl
With a plan .. I think a well defined bowling plan is the missing ingredient here. You identify your bowlers for various stages, you identify the bowling plans A, B and C for specific scenarios and the field settings and then you put them into practice.

It seemed to me Sarfaraz is sort of winging it as he goes and this boils down to a failure not only on his part but the coaches as well. I really thought the England ODIs would have given them some lessons to take home watching how England approached their bowlin plans. You could tell they were very very clear in their vision and strategy and expectation from captain to bowler to fielders. Imad comes in. Bowl short. Bowl wide Yorkers at the death.

This sort of planning is really missing with us. We cant just wait for the ball to get old before utilizing reverse swing to hopefully detail the opposition in the final ten. If they are already 250/2, you really can’t stop them from getting to 330 or beyond.

You really need wicket taking lines and lengths first up and in the middle as well. The only... ONLY way Pakistan can make a serious claim for the title is if they start bowling oppositions out. There is just no two ways about it.. Mickey, Azhar, Sarfaraz, our pace battery and spinners have a lot of home work to do I am afraid.
 
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Have to feel for you guys.

You have to constantly reiterate that this is a warm up match and even mock the celebration of Afghanistan

Just admit you were served humble pie
 
BD Tigers said:
Have to feel for you guys.

You have to constantly reiterate that this is a warm up match and even mock the celebration of Afghanistan

Just admit you were served humble pie
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We were! Those who say otherwise are kidding themselves. Who would not want a win after a 10 loss stretch! Seems to me this team has completely forgotten the taste of victory and how to go about getting one. It’s a serious problem right now..

I see an early exit for us if we continue to bowl like this!
 
Sarfraz at the presentation "we were 20 -30 runs short" when Pakistan's total of 358 was chased comfortably by england at this very ground. Smh
 
Score was too little too less on this pitch.

Bowlers have zero role on this pitch unfortunately we have no option but selfish Azam and Imams.

Lossahgainst England was used by chief selector to bring in his old friends which is paying dividend
 
It seems to me that Pakistani team and think tank is just ignoring the big elephant in the room and nobody wants to acknowledge it. You got rid of faheem, drafted in amir, you also now have two of the quickest bowlers in Pakistan and world cricket in the squad. And yet the wickets column in the first half of the innings looks extremely bare.
 
I would like to know the following:
1. why sarfaraz bowled shadab in the 49th over when the bowl was reversing and amir had overs available. Afghanistan needed 14 from 12 and amir's economy was 4.5. We just needed to leave wahab 7-8 runs to defend in the last over, as wahab was bowling beautifully.
2. If safaraz wanted to bowl a spinner in the 49th over, why didnt he bowl hafeez? Hafeez's economy was 3 and there were 2 left handers at the crease . Hafeez is excellent against left handers. Also, why didnt hafeez bowl more overs.
3. Why did they persist with shaheen as hes been leaking runs? Is there anyway we can replace shaheen with haris rauf?
 
Khwaja78 said:
Score was too little too less on this pitch.

Bowlers have zero role on this pitch unfortunately we have no option but selfish Azam and Imams.

Lossahgainst England was used by chief selector to bring in his old friends which is paying dividend
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That’s such a load of garbage.. some people just have an agenda against inzi.. make him look like an evil master mind who wanted Wahab and Hafeez in the team .. come. On ! Use our brains. You really had the best bowlers this country has and still do with a few changes.. how do you explain their failure before and after the change? We lost to England Australia and now Afghanistan. And you just find fault with Inzi?
 
Captain caveman said:
I would like to know the following:
1. why sarfaraz bowled shadab in the 49th over when the bowl was reversing and amir had overs available. Afghanistan needed 14 from 12 and amir's economy was 4.5. We just needed to leave wahab 7-8 runs to defend in the last over, as wahab was bowling beautifully.
2. If safaraz wanted to bowl a spinner in the 49th over, why didnt he bowl hafeez? Hafeez's economy was 3 and there were 2 left handers at the crease . Hafeez is excellent against left handers. Also, why didnt hafeez bowl more overs.
3. Why did they persist with shaheen as hes been leaking runs? Is there anyway we can replace shaheen with haris rauf?
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Pleaser let us know if you ever find the answer to these very reasonable questions?
 
Sarfaraz has got to the worst captain tactically, ever. There's no question about that. No wonder he is the biggest mental midget in the team along with his buddies Malik and Hafeez. The toothless trio will leave behind a mediocre legacy to follow.
 
Pak team being punished for being unjust to Usman shinwari ...dropped him from the squad when he averaged 19! With the ball and took bowlers with averages of 40+. We deserve to humiliated
 
Stewie said:
It seems to me that Pakistani team and think tank is just ignoring the big elephant in the room and nobody wants to acknowledge it. You got rid of faheem, drafted in amir, you also now have two of the quickest bowlers in Pakistan and world cricket in the squad. And yet the wickets column in the first half of the innings looks extremely bare.
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The commies (ian bishop, simon doull and john wright ) figured out what the problem is very quickly - the pakistani pacers are not bowling at the stumps! Therefore
, you cant get bowled or lbw wickets. On the graphic they showed, pak bowlers only bowled 9% of deliveries at the stumps. On these flat pitches you have to bowl at the stumps. In the death overs wahab did this and picked up 2 wickets. Also, the field placements are very defensive and on flat tracks you need to have attacking fields.
I would add shaheen is not ready to play this wc and we have to find someway of replacing him with haris rauf(though team deadline has passed).
 
CT champions are humiliated. So sad..



Now some posters will come out saying that these are warm ups .But I can say that if there are a ODI series between Afg and Pak, Afgans will win I think.

Afgans will cause upsets in this WC I think.
 
Captain caveman said:
I would like to know the following:
1. why sarfaraz bowled shadab in the 49th over when the bowl was reversing and amir had overs available. Afghanistan needed 14 from 12 and amir's economy was 4.5. We just needed to leave wahab 7-8 runs to defend in the last over, as wahab was bowling beautifully.
2. If safaraz wanted to bowl a spinner in the 49th over, why didnt he bowl hafeez? Hafeez's economy was 3 and there were 2 left handers at the crease . Hafeez is excellent against left handers. Also, why didnt hafeez bowl more overs.
3. Why did they persist with shaheen as hes been leaking runs? Is there anyway we can replace shaheen with haris rauf?
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You were talking big before this match

What happened now? Lol
 
Babloo said:
Pak team being punished for being unjust to Usman shinwari ...dropped him from the squad when he averaged 19! With the ball and took bowlers with averages of 40+. We deserve to humiliated
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Shinwari and haris rauf should definetly have been selected over the two youngsters shaheen and hasnain. The two youngsters should have been prepared by pcb for the next wc.
 
not a huge lot of skill difference between afghan and pakistan players so this result was expected. no surprise there.
 
LegGully said:
not a huge lot of skill difference between afghan and pakistan players so this result was expected. no surprise there.
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I would like to see Afghanistan score 300 plus against England consistently for 3/4 games.

Pakistan’s problems are all narrowed down to the inability to take wickets and skill wise our bowlers are far far ahead of Afghanistan’s. They just need a plan and a kick up their backsides. It’s the same side that boasted all the teams to the ICCCT victory not too long ago obliterating India in the final. Need to revisit that winning strategy and formula. I have no doubt we can do it.
 
I would normally point to how well Pakistan batted against England, or how their bowling showed glimpses of doing well, or how this was just a warm up....but I think it's time for some serious investigating. Warm up or not, Pakistan should not be losing to Afghanistan and they should not be scoring less than 300 on this pitch, in these conditions against these pie chuckers.

This is a complete humiliation, the captain has to start taking the blame, the coach has to either say what is happening behind the scenes because it looks like he is losing control (the inclusion of Riaz is plain as day an undermining of his authority) and the entire team has to up their game.

Hopefully this is a wake up call.
 
BD Tigers said:
You were talking big before this match

What happened now? Lol
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Firstly this is a practise match for preparation for the main event. Hasan ali did not play(bowl) and safaraz was trying to give shaheen confidence. Also to get dlshadab ready after his return from ilpness. Come actual wc im
 
Captain caveman said:
Firstly this is a practise match for preparation for the main event. Hasan ali did not play(bowl) and safaraz was trying to give shaheen confidence. Also to get dlshadab ready after his return from ilpness. Come actual wc im
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Continue...
Come actual wc, l have no doubt that we will beat afghanistan when we play our full strength team.
 
Stewie said:
I would like to see Afghanistan score 300 plus against England consistently for 3/4 games.

Pakistan’s problems are all narrowed down to the inability to take wickets and skill wise our bowlers are far far ahead of Afghanistan’s. They just need a plan and a kick up their backsides. It’s the same side that boasted all the teams to the ICCCT victory not too long ago obliterating India in the final. Need to revisit that winning strategy and formula. I have no doubt we can do it.
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Everything seems to have gone out the window over the last few months. Hasan Ali was usedi n the middle overs to get wickets, pace bowlers bowled in tandem while opening, spinners were used to dry up wickets with tight close in fielding and batsmen looked to play to their strengths.

As much as I have always disliked Mickey (look at his tenure with SA and Aus), I liked the fact that he concentrated so heavily on being well drilled fit and fielding well. All of that has has been lost and the young group of players they were looking to build up now includes Riaz instead of Rumman (A key player in the CT)...something has gone wrong, very wrong.
 
Captain caveman said:
I would like to know the following:
1. why sarfaraz bowled shadab in the 49th over when the bowl was reversing and amir had overs available. Afghanistan needed 14 from 12 and amir's economy was 4.5. We just needed to leave wahab 7-8 runs to defend in the last over, as wahab was bowling beautifully.
2. If safaraz wanted to bowl a spinner in the 49th over, why didnt he bowl hafeez? Hafeez's economy was 3 and there were 2 left handers at the crease . Hafeez is excellent against left handers. Also, why didnt hafeez bowl more overs.
3. Why did they persist with shaheen as hes been leaking runs? Is there anyway we can replace shaheen with haris rauf?
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Maybe cause this us a warm up match?
 
Maybe I'm playing devils advocate, however, it's worth remembering that this is a warm up game and this is a risk of televising warm up games.

Now don't get me wrong - their is no reasonable excuse for Pakistan to lose to Afghanistan (no offense to anyone) - however, the purpose of today's game was to get players into rythym and ready for the world cup. It was to try different things and see what works.

If that means continuing to bowl Shaheen even if he's getting smashed around the park in the hope he gets into rythym - so be it.

If that means gambling with Shadab in the 49th over to see how he gets on - so be it. If he hadn't bowled that one poor delivery which went 4 the story could have been very different and the decision to bowl Shadab would be getting praised.

If that means you bowl Wahab till he finds rythym - like he did in the end - so be it.

Again - I completely get why people are annoyed at Sarfraz in general and agree he needs to I prove his performance with bat and in the field. However, simply ranting about the captaincy for today's defeat is diverting the attention from bigger problems such as collapsing and not being able to bat 50 overs against Afg, or Shaheen looking in terrible rythym at the moment. We need to focus on those problems in my opinion.
 
barah_admi said:
I would normally point to how well Pakistan batted against England, or how their bowling showed glimpses of doing well, or how this was just a warm up....but I think it's time for some serious investigating. Warm up or not, Pakistan should not be losing to Afghanistan and they should not be scoring less than 300 on this pitch, in these conditions against these pie chuckers.

This is a complete humiliation, the captain has to start taking the blame, the coach has to either say what is happening behind the scenes because it looks like he is losing control (the inclusion of Riaz is plain as day an undermining of his authority) and the entire team has to up their game.

Hopefully this is a wake up call.
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The coach is not the all mighty binding authority, Mickey Arthur's one rule for his favorites, another for those in his bad books was now hurting Pakistan. The inclusion of Wahab has now given Pakistan an option at the death and he looked miles better than the other bowlers in the team. Pakistan is also now paying a price for not grooming additional proper spinners apart from Shadab in the last few years.
 
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