Afghanistan players' IPL earnings: Are taxes paid to the Taliban government used for peaceful purposes?

[FearlessRoar]

IPL is one of the world’s most lucrative cricket tournaments which has provided a platform for Afghan players to show their talent and earn substantial incomes. But we are all aware that Afghanistan has been under Taliban rule since 2021. Talibans are globally recognized as a terrorist organization.

Despite this, Afghan players have continued participating in the IPL, earning significant sums. Notable Afghan players like Rashid Khan, Mohammad Nabi, and Mujeeb Ur Rahman receive annual salaries ranging from ₹1 crore to ₹9 crore (approximately $137,000 to $1.2 million), likely paying taxes to the Taliban government. So, if the Taliban government is allegedly getting money from their taxes, is there any assurance that it is used appropriately?

In contrast, the Indian government has banned Pakistani players from participating in the IPL, citing concerns about the potential misuse of Indian money.

What are your thoughts on Afghan players’ participation in the IPL under the Taliban government?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

IPL is one of the world’s most lucrative cricket tournaments which has provided a platform for Afghan players to show their talent and earn substantial incomes. But we are all aware that Afghanistan has been under Taliban rule since 2021. Talibans are globally recognized as a terrorist organization.

Despite this, Afghan players have continued participating in the IPL, earning significant sums. Notable Afghan players like Rashid Khan, Mohammad Nabi, and Mujeeb Ur Rahman receive annual salaries ranging from ₹1 crore to ₹9 crore (approximately $137,000 to $1.2 million), likely paying taxes to the Taliban government. So, if the Taliban government is allegedly getting money from their taxes, is there any assurance that it is used appropriately?

In contrast, the Indian government has banned Pakistani players from participating in the IPL, citing concerns about the potential misuse of Indian money.

What are your thoughts on Afghan players’ participation in the IPL under the Taliban government?

Great piece @FearlessRoar, just exposes the hypocrisy of BCCI and the political twisting in cricket.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Talibanis are friendly towards Indian government and they do not work against the interests of Indian investments there.

When Taliban took over from Ghani and US forces, Everyone thought Taliban will be totally pro-pakistan. How wrong were we.

 

[Local.Dada]

Taliban takes “taxes”. I thought it was forbidden in Islam especially since Taliban runs on full shariah? Can religious Islamic scholars on this forum confirm?

 

[JaDed]

If Afghan board pulls out Afghan players they won’t be part from the next.

If this was the Taliban from 1996-2001 it would probably be the along same lines as Pak players.

Irrespective why does it matter for Pak players they have PSL, Afghans don’t have that.

 

[FearlessRoar]

If Afghan board pulls out Afghan players they won’t be part from the next.

If this was the Taliban from 1996-2001 it would probably be the along same lines as Pak players.

Irrespective why does it matter for Pak players they have PSL, Afghans don’t have that.

Are you trying to say the Taliban of 1996-2001 were different from today's Taliban? For your knowledge, they are still the same nothing has changed same hardcore policies. If a wolf wears sheep's clothing it doesn't make it a sheep.

 

[HalBass9]

Taliban takes “taxes”. I thought it was forbidden in Islam especially since Taliban runs on full shariah? Can religious Islamic scholars on this forum confirm?

why did you think that?

This is the core issue. Without intending to divert the conversation, there is much for Indians to learn about the experiences and contributions of over 220 million of their own people.

 

[HalBass9]

This is not hypocrisy, rather, it is a policy designed to appeal to domestic political interests. It creates a superficial sense of isolating Pakistani cricket, and Pakistan in general. This is largely a matter of optics, intended to be visible and impactful for those supporting the Hindutva ideology, more so than other, less visible policies. Given the current political climate, especially after the recent elections, it’s unlikely that a Hindutva-led government will abandon this approach.

 

[JaDed]

Are you trying to say the Taliban of 1996-2001 were different from today's Taliban? For your knowledge, they are still the same nothing has changed same hardcore policies. If a wolf wears sheep's clothing it doesn't make it a sheep.

Trust me I agree, you should tell that to the entire British Pakistani posters on this forum that celebrated their take over and posted news continuously defending them.

My point was there hatred towards India, then they helped the Indian hijack, not anymore.

 

[RexRex]

Taliban 2.0 is more pro-India than the previous iteration.

 

[rpant_gabba]

This is not hypocrisy, rather, it is a policy designed to appeal to domestic political interests. It creates a superficial sense of isolating Pakistani cricket, and Pakistan in general. This is largely a matter of optics, intended to be visible and impactful for those supporting the Hindutva ideology, more so than other, less visible policies. Given the current political climate, especially after the recent elections, it’s unlikely that a Hindutva-led government will abandon this approach.

so how many times did India tour pakistan with "secular" govt in place between 2008 and 2014? how many IPL's did Pak players participate in between 2008 and 2014?

 

[SportsWarrior]

Why does Pakistanis worry about this. They have anyway secured the west

 

[IMMY69]

Trust me I agree, you should tell that to the entire British Pakistani posters on this forum that celebrated their take over and posted news continuously defending them.

My point was there hatred towards India, then they helped the Indian hijack, not anymore.

Entire?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Talibanis are friendly towards Indian government and they do not work against the interests of Indian investments there.

When Taliban took over from Ghani and US forces, Everyone thought Taliban will be totally pro-pakistan. How wrong were we.

Does that mean the Indian posters - who mostly don't live in India like yourself - are also friendly towards Taliban? I don't get that impression for some reason.

 

[Rajdeep]

Indians i.e Bharatiyas don't agree with Taliban as far gross human rights violations are concerned. However, Taliban don't send insurgents in India to kill civilians. We have issues with them morally but they are no threat to Indias security. So any IPL money Afghan players are making is a non issue for Indian govt. The same can't be said about Pakistan and hence their players are banned in IPL after Mumbai 2008 attacks.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Trust me I agree, you should tell that to the entire British Pakistani posters on this forum that celebrated their take over and posted news continuously defending them.

My point was there hatred towards India, then they helped the Indian hijack, not anymore.

British Pakistanis don't have any hatred towards India, if they did, why would they have any interest in Pakistan players participating in the IPL?

 

[Champ_Pal]

Does that mean the Indian posters - who mostly don't live in India like yourself - are also friendly towards Taliban? I don't get that impression for some reason.

I am against Taliban. It is for the people of Afghanistan to decide whether they can put up with the Taliban Regime. If they are happy, who are we to tell them what they should do?

Taliban do not work against Indian interests. So why should Indian Government and BCCI be banning Afghan players?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I am against Taliban. It is for the people of Afghanistan to decide whether they can put up with the Taliban Regime. If they are happy, who are we to tell them what they should do?

Taliban do not work against Indian interests. So why should Indian Government and BCCI be banning Afghan players?

Pakistan does not work against Indian interests either, and they have better rights for women. I don't understand why the animosity towards Pakistan then?

 

[HalBass9]

so how many times did India tour pakistan with "secular" govt in place between 2008 and 2014? how many IPL's did Pak players participate in between 2008 and 2014?

It’s 2024. I guess it signifies that no matter who is in the government, the anti-Pakistan and anti-Indian-Muslims narrative will be easily sold to the general population.

 

[JaDed]

Entire?

Sorry bro I forgot the sane ones.

 

[Local.Dada]

It’s 2024. I guess it signifies that no matter who is in the government, the anti-Pakistan and anti-Indian-Muslims narrative will be easily sold to the general population.

General population of India. General population of Pakistan: none of their business and focus on 1000 other issues including minority rights which is 1000 times way worse (none of my business too)

You are not an Indian Muslim, an Indian Muslim never asked you for help and apples to apples with the same opportunity and background an Indian Muslim is doing better than his Pak or Bangla counterpart.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

This has little to do with Hindutva. Why would Hindutvadis accept Afghan Muslim players under the Taliban and Muslim players from anywhere else really?

This was anyway implemented under the Congress.

 

[HalBass9]

General population of India. General population of Pakistan: none of their business and focus on 1000 other issues including minority rights which is 1000 times way worse (none of my business too)

You are not an Indian Muslim, an Indian Muslim never asked you for help and apples to apples with the same opportunity and background an Indian Muslim is doing better than his Pak or Bangla counterpart.

I don’t know what you are trying to say here. Try to be coherent.

Everyone focuses on thousand other issues but you are in a thread where you made a comment pertaining to a certain topic.

Define better?

 

[FearlessRoar]

I don’t know what you are trying to say here. Try to be coherent.

Everyone focuses on thousand other issues but you are in a thread where you made a comment pertaining to a certain topic.

Define better?

The thread is about the money Afghan players earn from IPL. If they pay taxes to the Afghan government from that money, what guarantee is there that the Taliban government will use the money for peaceful purposes?

 

[FearlessRoar]

Polls added

 

[JaDed]

The thread is about the money Afghan players earn from IPL. If they pay taxes to the Afghan government from that money, what guarantee is there that the Taliban government will use the money for peaceful purposes?

You really want the tax line? There are posters from Canada US England sponsoring Israel with Tax money.. should we start that too?

 

[Local.Dada]

I don’t know what you are trying to say here. Try to be coherent.

Everyone focuses on thousand other issues but you are in a thread where you made a comment pertaining to a certain topic.

Define better?

Ok how about this- your whining is not going to let your messiah out of jail and your backside will only hurt more with Modi’s 3rd term.

You have 0 stakes when it comes to Indian Muslims and if you were such a humanitarian about minority rights, start from home first.

Cant put it simpler myself. Comprendez?

 

[Local.Dada]

The thread is about the money Afghan players earn from IPL. If they pay taxes to the Afghan government from that money, what guarantee is there that the Taliban government will use the money for peaceful purposes?

My question is still not answered. Taliban follows shariah- so do they even collect taxes from fellow Muslims?

 

[rpant_gabba]

It’s 2024. I guess it signifies that no matter who is in the government, the anti-Pakistan and anti-Indian-Muslims narrative will be easily sold to the general population.

No sure about that.

About anti-pakistan, there should be more. Unfortunately the Gandhi-Nehru virus is still strong.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You really want the tax line? There are posters from Canada US England sponsoring Israel with Tax money.. should we start that too?

This is a clickbait nothing else. ICC funds ACB. So all ICC members are funding the Taliban.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The thread is about the money Afghan players earn from IPL. If they pay taxes to the Afghan government from that money, what guarantee is there that the Taliban government will use the money for peaceful purposes?

Why are pakistanis so concerned? If you are, ask your country why did they recognised the Taliban government?

There were celebrations on PP when Taliban took over.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Why are pakistanis so concerned? If you are, ask your country why did they recognised the Taliban government?

There were celebrations on PP when Taliban took over.

Pakistan have not recognized taliban govt officially. yes they have recognized what India did

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistan have not recognized taliban govt officially. yes they have recognized what India did

Pakistan was one of the first countries to recognise Taliban. They can back track now. But they did recognise Taliban.

What has India done?

Editing posts don't change facts.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Pakistan have not recognized taliban govt officially. yes they have recognized what India did

Who can forget Pakistani generals having tea with Taliban the very next day US ran from Kabul? Pakistanis from all over the world were rejoicing US departure and mocked India about their failure in Afghanistan. They were proud how Pakistan was smart with all the events that have happened there.

Now we know how much Pakistan has failed in Afghanistan. What should have been their allies turned out to be a pain in the rear and an enemy at the western border.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why are pakistanis so concerned? If you are, ask your country why did they recognised the Taliban government?

There were celebrations on PP when Taliban took over.

They were clearly right to celebrate the Taliban victory, it seems even India has endorsed that now.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

If Afghan players also boycotted IPL then it would become a boring Telugu league.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Not an issue for India how people pay their taxes

 

[msb314]

Why are pakistanis so concerned? If you are, ask your country why did they recognised the Taliban government?

There were celebrations on PP when Taliban took over.

LOL Pakistan has NOT recognized the Taliban Govt…

They did back in 1996 (along with KSA and UAE) but not in 2021…

 

[msb314]

Who can forget Pakistani generals having tea with Taliban the very next day US ran from Kabul? Pakistanis from all over the world were rejoicing US departure and mocked India about their failure in Afghanistan. They were proud how Pakistan was smart with all the events that have happened there.

Now we know how much Pakistan has failed in Afghanistan. What should have been their allies turned out to be a pain in the rear and an enemy at the western border.

Where did you get this nonsense from?

 

[JaDed]

Where did you get this nonsense from?

Gen Faiz didn’t have tea in Kabul after Taliban take over? There is a photograph of that literally quoted by many Pakistani posters as how Pakistan helped this.

 

[JaDed]

If Afghan players also boycotted IPL then it would become a boring Telugu league.

You are trying too hard nowadays..

 

[msb314]

Gen Faiz didn’t have tea in Kabul after Taliban take over? There is a photograph of that literally quoted by many Pakistani posters as how Pakistan helped this.

100% Fake News spreading from social media

 

[rpant_gabba]

Where did you get this nonsense from?

Cup of tea in Kabul has cost Pakistan: Dar

Deputy prime minister lashes out at past govt, links its "mistakes" to surge in terrorism.

www.dawn.com

'Don't worry, everything will be okay': ISI chief during Kabul visit

Gen Faiz seen at Kabul hotel with Pakistan's envoy to Afghanistan Mansoor Ahmad Khan; sources say he's there on a day-long trip.

www.dawn.com

 

[JaDed]

100% Fake News spreading from social media

Unlike other spymasters, Gen Faiz remained in the headlines as he never shied away from publicity. He rose to global spotlight when he was seen drinking tea at a hotel in Kabul, soon after the fall of Kabul at the hands of Afghan Taliban in August 2021.

Gen Faiz Hameed faces court martial | The Express Tribune

Gen Faiz Hameed faces court martial

tribune.com.pk

Its well reported across

 

[cricketjoshila]

LOL Pakistan has NOT recognized the Taliban Govt…

They did back in 1996 (along with KSA and UAE) but not in 2021…

That 1996 recognition had an expiry date?

Unless Pakistan has categorically stated that they have withdrawn the recognition.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If Afghan players also boycotted IPL then it would become a boring Telugu league.

You guys said the same when pakistanis were kicked out.

 

[cricketjoshila]

@DeadlyVenom What are you laughing at?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The vast majority of posters here are based abroad I would think. That goes for both Indians and Pakistanis. Just you guys don't like it when some of us call you out on your blatant propaganda on behalf of mother India. If Pakistan and Islam are going to be denigrated what do you expect in response? Flowers and tea time?

 

[msb314]

That 1996 recognition had an expiry date?

Unless Pakistan has categorically stated that they have withdrawn the recognition.

There was a change in Govt in 2002 under Hamid Karzai which GOP recognized right?

So if Govt changes again in 2021 after Taliban takeover… then GOP needs to recognize them again (which they haven’t done so far..)

 

[cricketjoshila]

There was a change in Govt in 2002 under Hamid Karzai which GOP recognized right?

So if Govt changes again in 2021 after Taliban takeover… then GOP needs to recognize them again (which they haven’t done so far..)

So everytime a government changes Pakistan initiates the process of recognition?

 

[msb314]

So everytime a government changes Pakistan initiates the process of recognition?

Yes - that is the standard process in diplomacy and is usually just a formality..

However, it becomes a challenge during a civil war or coup d’etat. More so in the case of the Taliban takeover since it was obviously done without a formal transfer of power between Ashraf Ghani’s Govt and the Taliban

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yes - that is the standard process in diplomacy and is usually just a formality..

However, it becomes a challenge during a civil war or coup d’etat. More so in the case of the Taliban takeover since it was obviously done without a formal transfer of power between Ashraf Ghani’s Govt and the Taliban

Its a standard process to reinitiate recognition of a country every time a government changes?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

There was a change in Govt in 2002 under Hamid Karzai which GOP recognized right?

So if Govt changes again in 2021 after Taliban takeover… then GOP needs to recognize them again (which they haven’t done so far..)

I believe Pakistan has recognized them

 

[DeadlyVenom]

@DeadlyVenom What are you laughing at?

The post got deleted now and I can't remember the details.

Anyway I don't agree with the thread topic. It's a big reach to try and tie India to this.

 

[msb314]

Its a standard process to reinitiate recognition of a country every time a government changes?

Yes

 

[msb314]

I believe Pakistan has recognized them

Not officially.

There is a Taliban appointed diplomat in their Peshawar Consulate but GOP has NOT formally recognized the Taliban as the official Govt of Aghanistan

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Not officially.

There is a Taliban appointed diplomat in their Peshawar Consulate but GOP has NOT formally recognized the Taliban as the official Govt of Aghanistan

Thats very interesting I genuinely thought we had.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Thats very interesting I genuinely thought we had.

Can't imagine why Pakistan hasn't recognised them unless it's under instruction from Uncle Sam.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Can't imagine why Pakistan hasn't recognised them unless it's under instruction from Uncle Sam.

We were begging on their behalf after they came to power which makes it even more strange.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

We were begging on their behalf after they came to power which makes it even more strange.

Don't see what Pakistan gains from not recognising Taliban. Has to be on someone elses behalf.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yes

Its not. Once a state recognises another state, establishes diplomatic relations, it has to formally withdraw from such recognition. There is no fresh recognition after every change in government.

 

[msb314]

Can't imagine why Pakistan hasn't recognised them unless it's under instruction from Uncle Sam.

Thats very interesting I genuinely thought we had.

Can't imagine why Pakistan hasn't recognised them unless it's under instruction from Uncle Sam.

Human Rights, UN Sanctions and probably pressure from the West…

 

[msb314]

Its not. Once a state recognises another state, establishes diplomatic relations, it has to formally withdraw from such recognition. There is no fresh recognition after every change in government.

I am not an expert on this topic but I don’t think that is correct…

Normally (during an orderly transfer of power after elections or a death of a monarch..) the recognition of a new Govt is a formality and completely very quickly..

However, the Taliban takeover was a rapid collapse of the existing Govt and a coup for all practical purposes. That is why most of the Western World have withheld recognition of the Taliban as the official govt and did not complete the process that I mentioned above..

However, it seems like India, Pakistan and the Arab World are on the fence regarding this issue and hence have appointed Taliban diplomats in their embassy to help engage with the Taliban on multiple issues without formally recognizing them.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I am not an expert on this topic but I don’t think that is correct…

Normally (during an orderly transfer of power after elections or a death of a monarch..) the recognition of a new Govt is a formality and completely very quickly..

However, the Taliban takeover was a rapid collapse of the existing Govt and a coup for all practical purposes. That is why most of the Western World have withheld recognition of the Taliban as the official govt and did not complete the process that I mentioned above..

However, it seems like India, Pakistan and the Arab World are on the fence regarding this issue and hence have appointed Taliban diplomats in their embassy to help engage with the Taliban on multiple issues without formally recognizing them.

Western world never recognised Taliban. Pakistan did. Established diplomatic relations. Unless Pakistan has specifically withdrawn the recognition, it still exists. The level of diplomatic relations is different.

A country establishes diplomatic relations with another country not with government. Its a state to state transaction.

 

[CadPakFan]

Taliban takes “taxes”. I thought it was forbidden in Islam especially since Taliban runs on full shariah? Can religious Islamic scholars on this forum confirm?

Taliban does not run under "full shariah". They have implemented some Sharia laws but they don't have nuanced scholars that understand the different schools of Islamic jurisprudence. Also, generally the taxes in an Islamic state would be 2.5% zakat tax for Muslims, and Jizya tax for non-Muslims, this tax can be collected on livestock, agriculture, trade goods, and money/cash (collected either at the end or the beginning of the year). I don't know what they are doing exactly but if they are taxing more than this, they are going against the orthodox view that has generally been held on taxation. Just FYI, I am not a scholar, rather just a layman who has learned a bit about two of the Islamic schools of jurisprudence and someone else more knowledgeable can also add their thoughts.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Taliban does not run under "full shariah". They have implemented some Sharia laws but they don't have nuanced scholars that understand the different schools of Islamic jurisprudence. Also, generally the taxes in an Islamic state would be 2.5% zakat tax for Muslims, and Jizya tax for non-Muslims, this tax can be collected on livestock, agriculture, trade goods, and money/cash (collected either at the end or the beginning of the year). I don't know what they are doing exactly but if they are taxing more than this, they are going against the orthodox view that has generally been held on taxation. Just FYI, I am not a scholar, rather just a layman who has learned a bit about two of the Islamic schools of jurisprudence and someone else more knowledgeable can also add their thoughts.

Taxes are acceptable if the state needs it.

Zakat isn't a tax btw.

 

[CadPakFan]

Taxes are acceptable if the state needs it.

Zakat isn't a tax btw.

Although Zakat was implemented primarily as a charity system, it was also used to fund governance and social welfare during the time of the three rightly guided Caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman).

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Afghanistan players playing well against Bangladesh today so more money on cards for Talibans I guess.