Afghanistan playing Test Match on Eid

[RainMan_]

You can sacrifice sports for a roja in ramadaan but you can't sacrifice a roja for cricket.its only a sport and sport isn't bigger than the order of Allah swt.

Then don't play any sport on Eid day or Ramadan. That's ur personal matter. Let the afghan players and their governing board decide what they wanna do. Don't consider every single person to take religion as seriously as u do.

I as an individual wouldn't think twice to respond positively if I had to appear for an interview for a lucrative job on a Eid day. If any afghan player has any issue with playing on a Eid day and if religious festival is really that important for him, then that player can simply withdraw himself from the series. Nobody is forcing them.

 

[RainMan_]

Imagine the OP winning $1 m lotto during EID and asked to travel 500 km to claim the cheque. Wondering what he will do.

Many Muslim Security personnel, doctors and drivers work on Eid day. It's hardly a big deal.

 

[Bilal7]

What's wrong with playing cricket on Eid, lol? It's a day of happiness and this is going to be a great thing for the Afghan players. There is no issue here and threads like these are pointless.

Imagine the OP winning $1 m lotto during EID and asked to travel 500 km to claim the cheque. Wondering what he will do.

Considering that Lotto is Haram, I would think not too far.

 

[IAJ]

Will England or Norway play an international match on Christmas day?

It’s not about Afghanistan having no issues playing on Eid, it’s about principles, it is s widely recognized holy day.

Of course if the Afghanis have no issues with that they can do as they wish, but it just feels strange.

Having said that, we used to go out and play cricket/football after Eid prayers and food when we were children lol.

 

[Mainul]

Then don't play any sport on Eid day or Ramadan. That's ur personal matter. Let the afghan players and their governing board decide what they wanna do. Don't consider every single person to take religion as seriously as u do.

I as an individual wouldn't think twice to respond positively if I had to appear for an interview for a lucrative job on a Eid day. If any afghan player has any issue with playing on a Eid day and if religious festival is really that important for him, then that player can simply withdraw himself from the series. Nobody is forcing them.

My issue is not playing on Eid day, playing in ramadaan is the main issue for me. If anybody don't give importance to religion there is no way one can argue with him about religion.But a Muslim country's cricket team is playing in ramadaan that's a very unacceptable decision.You can't compare it with a lucrative job on Eid day because on Eid day if anybody performs eid salat which is wajib and performs his job it's very much of no problem.But if anybody leaves roja for no compelling reason it's a great sin.Its not possible to do fasting and playing at the same time. All the members of Afgan cricket board and officials concerned with this decision will be the sinner as they have taken a decision by which 11 players won't do fasting on ramaddan. Yes, they havent compelled any player but they have encouraged and laid the foundation of making oneself not doing fasting in ramadaan.Its a great sin. why as Muslims they have taken the decision? Again I repeat, only he will understand the importance here who does give value to the order of Allah swt. It's the way we Muslims should think.There is no place of "don't bring religion here" type of conversation.Religion isnt seperate part of our life.May Allah gives hidayat to everyone including myself.

 

[Lion of Khyber]

[MENTION=136446]Mainul[/MENTION], all Afghan players are fasting and are devoted muslims.

 

[Mainul]

[MENTION=136446]Mainul[/MENTION], all Afghan players are fasting and are devoted muslims.

Will they fast when they will play the test against India?

 

[Asch Ali]

Will they fast when they will play the test against India?

MOST likely not. But no need of discussing how religious they are. Eid surely a holiday to be cherished by all Muslims. And this holiday should be respected.

 

[blackanhyellow]

My issue is not playing on Eid day, playing in ramadaan is the main issue for me. If anybody don't give importance to religion there is no way one can argue with him about religion.But a Muslim country's cricket team is playing in ramadaan that's a very unacceptable decision.You can't compare it with a lucrative job on Eid day because on Eid day if anybody performs eid salat which is wajib and performs his job it's very much of no problem.But if anybody leaves roja for no compelling reason it's a great sin.Its not possible to do fasting and playing at the same time. All the members of Afgan cricket board and officials concerned with this decision will be the sinner as they have taken a decision by which 11 players won't do fasting on ramaddan. Yes, they havent compelled any player but they have encouraged and laid the foundation of making oneself not doing fasting in ramadaan.Its a great sin. why as Muslims they have taken the decision? Again I repeat, only he will understand the importance here who does give value to the order of Allah swt. It's the way we Muslims should think.There is no place of "don't bring religion here" type of conversation.Religion isnt seperate part of our life.May Allah gives hidayat to everyone including myself.

Everyone has to go in their own grave.

You cant tell people to live their life a certain way, it isnt your responsibility, and quite frankly you have no right.

Being offended that they are not fasting implies you have some sort of ownership of how they choose to live their life. You don't.

You can fast and not work on Eid, no one gets offended at your life choices. Why cant you let other people be.

BTW, I also fast so its not like I am coming from a place of being non-religious myself.

Its just that people should be free to choose how they practice their religion.

 

[blackanhyellow]

On one side we have non-religious people complaining when players do sajdas.

On the other side we have religious people complaining that players dont fast.

There is a middle ground. Its called live and let live.

 

[Mainul]

Everyone has to go in their own grave.

You cant tell people to live their life a certain way, it isnt your responsibility, and quite frankly you have no right.

Being offended that they are not fasting implies you have some sort of ownership of how they choose to live their life. You don't.

You can fast and not work on Eid, no one gets offended at your life choices. Why cant you let other people be.

BTW, I also fast so its not like I am coming from a place of being non-religious myself.

Its just that people should be free to choose how they practice their religion.

Fasting on Eid day is Haram and an act of sin.Islam has made a boundary of everything. Within it,it is called act of reward/neki and outside this limit is called act of sin. We should know these.Its called ilm of deen.Without knowing deen noone can correctly follow Islam.No muslim can or should a life according to his/ her wish.The word Muslim has come from "who has surrendered himself/herself to Allah". He/she should lead a life according to order of Allah in the way of Sunnah and it is called din. Most of us cannot follow Islam fully due to attraction of dulniya/this word or wrong leading by nafs or evil. Allah can forgive this if He wants.But if anybody disbelieves,makes argument about any then he will be out of Islam.I am not copelling or trying to compel anybody in fasting.But I should do warning to any Muslim brother.

 

[blackanhyellow]

Fasting on Eid day is Haram and an act of sin.Islam has made a boundary of everything. Within it,it is called act of reward/neki and outside this limit is called act of sin. We should know these.Its called ilm of deen.Without knowing deen noone can correctly follow Islam.No muslim can or should a life according to his/ her wish.The word Muslim has come from "who has surrendered himself/herself to Allah". He/she should lead a life according to order of Allah in the way of Sunnah and it is called din. Most of us cannot follow Islam fully due to attraction of dulniya/this word or wrong leading by nafs or evil. Allah can forgive this if He wants.But if anybody disbelieves,makes argument about any then he will be out of Islam.I am not copelling or trying to compel anybody in fasting.But I should do warning to any Muslim brother.

Tell me something, have you ever sinned in your life?

If the answer is no, then you are lying (which is another sin).

If the answer is yes, then ask forgiveness and move on.

At the same time, realize that others will also sin. You are not the gate keeper to heaven to decide if they are sinners or not. They will sin, they will ask forgiveness (or not) that is between them and God.

Why act as an intermediary?

Typical response, "Oh its my responsibility to warn my Muslim brothers".

Umm no its not. Its your responsibility to lead by example.Be a good role model, be a good muslim, and show others the true patch by example of your actions. Not constantly preach to people unless they ask for your advice.

 

[Mainul]

Tell me something, have you ever sinned in your life?

If the answer is no, then you are lying (which is another sin).

If the answer is yes, then ask forgiveness and move on.

At the same time, realize that others will also sin. You are not the gate keeper to heaven to decide if they are sinners or not. They will sin, they will ask forgiveness (or not) that is between them and God.

Why act as an intermediary?

Typical response, "Oh its my responsibility to warn my Muslim brothers".

Umm no its not. Its your responsibility to lead by example.Be a good role model, be a good muslim, and show others the true patch by example of your actions. Not constantly preach to people unless they ask for your advice.

So you are supporting the decision of Afgan cricket board and you are also demanding you as a muslim. It's contradictory.i understood your level of knowledge of Islam as soon as you said that anyone can fast on Eid day and you made it more clear about your knowledge of islam in your last post.Sorry to say it is just wastage of time to discuss about class three syllabus with a student who even hasn't started play group .

 

[blackanhyellow]

So you are supporting the decision of Afgan cricket board and you are also demanding you as a muslim. It's contradictory.i understood your level of knowledge of Islam as soon as you said that anyone can fast on Eid day and you made it more clear about your knowledge of islam in your last post.Sorry to say it is just wastage of time to discuss about class three syllabus with a student who even hasn't started play group .

I never said you can fast on Eid.

I said you can fast in Ramzan and you can take a day off work on Eid.

Reread my post. Maybe it was grammatically incorrect but this is what I meant.

 

[Mainul]

I never said you can fast on Eid.

I said you can fast in Ramzan and you can take a day off work on Eid.

Reread my post. Maybe it was grammatically incorrect but this is what I meant.

Okay I misunderstood. Nevertheless it is not a right place for discussion about it in a cricket forum. I am just sorry if i have hurt you.May Allah SWT shows all of us the right path.

 

[Lion of Khyber]

@Asch-Ali you keep making statements about them but doesn’t respond to a single of my questions

Afghan team will be fasting as they have done all previous years. For majority of the team members this is their third tour abroad during Ramadan and Eid. So they are used to it. And if it is Ramadan on the 14th, they’ll keep it.

 

[Square Drive]

LOL how did such a thread become a hit?

 

[Asch Ali]

@Asch-Ali you keep making statements about them but doesn’t respond to a single of my questions

Afghan team will be fasting as they have done all previous years. For majority of the team members this is their third tour abroad during Ramadan and Eid. So they are used to it. And if it is Ramadan on the 14th, they’ll keep it.

Your comment is not a question. You are just stating that Afghan players are observing the fast, which probably is wrong anways. But fasting is irrelevant to this thread, as this is about Eid.

 

[RainMan_]

My issue is not playing on Eid day, playing in ramadaan is the main issue for me. If anybody don't give importance to religion there is no way one can argue with him about religion.But a Muslim country's cricket team is playing in ramadaan that's a very unacceptable decision.

U can have an issue with all types of things man. Today u r having an issue with players playing in Ramadan, tomorrow u will have an issue with players playing cricket during Friday day prayer. But that's not the point. Here the the concerned authority seems to have absolutely no issue and they r really ecstatic about the fact that they r going to play their maiden test march against a top class test team.

Who knows, if they had refused the offer to play during Ramadan they would've had to wait for a long time to get the chance to play against a top ranked test team again. Why would they jeopardise their test career just to please some ultra religious mullahs? Obviously their board tried to postpone the test but they failed and were put in a position where they had no option other than playing in Ramadan and their cricket board along with its players all agreed to make that small sacrifice.

You can't compare it with a lucrative job on Eid day because on Eid day if anybody performs eid salat which is wajib and performs his job it's very much of no problem.But if anybody leaves roja for no compelling reason it's a great sin.Its not possible to do fasting and playing at the same time. All the members of Afgan cricket board and officials concerned with this decision will be the sinner as they have taken a decision by which 11 players won't do fasting on ramaddan.

Why can't I comare it with a lucrative job? Afghan players will also get the chance to perform their salat before the start of the day's play just like the way all the doctor, police officers or people from all the other profession get the chance to perform the eid salat before starting their job on eid day.

Secondly we don't even know whether the Afghan players r fasting or not. Perhaps they r actually fasting and still playing/doing their jobs. U r actually doing a sin by making false assumptions since u don't know the actual truth . Whether they r making their prayers or keeping their fast is up to them and it's their their personal matter. U do ur job, lead by an example and let the others to live the way they wanna live without being overly judgmental.

Yes, they havent compelled any player but they have encouraged and laid the foundation of making oneself not doing fasting in ramadaan.Its a great sin. why as Muslims they have taken the decision? Again I repeat, only he will understand the importance here who does give value to the order of Allah swt. It's the way we Muslims should think.There is no place of "don't bring religion here" type of conversation.Religion isnt seperate part of our life.May Allah gives hidayat to everyone including myself.

Is it not seen to not pray five times a day? But many Muslims working abroad r forced to skip prayer either because their organization don't allow prayer time or they feel embarrassed to pray in Public because of people who don't know what these Muslim devotees r doing and can create some awkward situation.

Now we don't even know under what circumstances Afghanistan board took the decision to play in Ramadan. Perhaps they were really in no position to refuse the offer. U can relate this situation to many poor, working class people who has to use heavy physical activity to earn their living. Many of these people who does heavy menial jobs don't fast because they can't do their job to earn their living if they fast. They have traded their sin with a days of meal. Its their personal matter and they know it better than anyone else that under what circumstances they had to take such decisions.

 

[Mainul]

U can have an issue with all types of things man. Today u r having an issue with players playing in Ramadan, tomorrow u will have an issue with players playing cricket during Friday day prayer. But that's not the point. Here the the concerned authority seems to have absolutely no issue and they r really ecstatic about the fact that they r going to play their maiden test march against a top class test team.

Who knows, if they had refused the offer to play during Ramadan they would've had to wait for a long time to get the chance to play against a top ranked test team again. Why would they jeopardise their test career just to please some ultra religious mullahs? Obviously their board tried to postpone the test but they failed and were put in a position where they had no option other than playing in Ramadan and their cricket board along with its players all agreed to make that small sacrifice.




Why can't I comare it with a lucrative job? Afghan players will also get the chance to perform their salat before the start of the day's play just like the way all the doctor, police officers or people from all the other profession get the chance to perform the eid salat before starting their job on eid day.

Secondly we don't even know whether the Afghan players r fasting or not. Perhaps they r actually fasting and still playing/doing their jobs. U r actually doing a sin by making false assumptions since u don't know the actual truth . Whether they r making their prayers or keeping their fast is up to them and it's their their personal matter. U do ur job, lead by an example and let the others to live the way they wanna live without being overly judgmental.




Is it not seen to not pray five times a day? But many Muslims working abroad r forced to skip prayer either because their organization don't allow prayer time or they feel embarrassed to pray in Public because of people who don't know what these Muslim devotees r doing and can create some awkward situation.

Now we don't even know under what circumstances Afghanistan board took the decision to play in Ramadan. Perhaps they were really in no position to refuse the offer. U can relate this situation to many poor, working class people who has to use heavy physical activity to earn their living. Many of these people who does heavy menial jobs don't fast because they can't do their job to earn their living if they fast. They have traded their sin with a days of meal. Its their personal matter and they know it better than anyone else that under what circumstances they had to take such decisions.

Do you think is it possible to fast and play under the schorching sun for 7 hours? If anybody play fasting is it possible to keep fit and perform at his best? I don't think so. A player then have to choose between either fasting or playing test.A Muslim should without any doubt choose the first one. This is never a valid reason in Islam of leaving roja for playing.And its not a compelling reason for Afgan cricket board either. Waiting a few more months to play a test (at best )wouldn't have done anything harmful for Afgan nation.

 

[Braveheart]

I can't wait for the reverse fixture in Afghanistan between these two 'Friendly Nations'

 

[Asch Ali]

I can't wait for the reverse fixture in Afghanistan between these two 'Friendly Nations'

That will be up to the indian team If they will be willing to go to Afghanistan

 

[Peshwa]

That will be up to the indian team If they will be willing to go to Afghanistan

Afgahnsitan playing thr Home Matches in India only...So reverse fixture will also be in India...

 

[Asch Ali]

Afgahnsitan playing thr Home Matches in India only...So reverse fixture will also be in India...

Well, it is impossible for two teams in same match both of them being home teams. As this was not never ever happened ever history of cricket.

 

[Abdullah719]

They might not be playing on Eid after all

 

[Arham_PakFan]

They might not be playing on Eid after all

Lol yes.They might be bundled out today(chaand raat).Good spirit shown by the Afghan team.

 

[Asch Ali]

What an horrible horrible display of cricket from the Afghanis. A second day innings plus double and a half century win for India. At least they got what we all were hoping for—an extra 3 days to celebrate Eid and a smashing win by India. Congrats to our Eastern neighbors for this crushing victory. Afghanistan has been put into their place!!

 

[Savage]

What an horrible horrible display of cricket from the Afghanis. A second day innings plus double and a half century win for India. At least they got what we all were hoping for—an extra 3 days to celebrate Eid and a smashing win by India. Congrats to our Eastern neighbors for this crushing victory. Afghanistan has been put into their place!!

I guess you are happy now.

 

[Asch Ali]

I guess you are happy now.

It’s a win-win-win situation. The Muslim Afghani players got to celebrate their holy day of Eid. The over-confident Afghani fans were put into their place. The Indians got a crushing Test victory and series win.

Everyone is happy.