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"After these 10 positive cases, all players will realize seriousness of the situation" : Wasim Khan

Wasim Khan speaking to the press:

"This is not a great situation but these are 10 fit athletes who have been tested positive for Coronavirus and there is a clear message for all people in Pakistan, men, women and children that please adhere to Govt. guidelines because if it can happen tp fit young Pakistan players, then it can happen to anybody"


"Of the 10 players who have tested positive, 7 are predominantly white-ball players who are required for the white-ball series that begins from the 23rd of August onwards"

"We fully expect the players to be tested again, the players are coming to Lahore tomorrow, the players who were negatively tested before will be tested again in a bio-secure environment in a hotel on 25th, the squad will be announced on the 27th, and the team will leave for England on the 28th"

Will these positive tests concern England?

"I dont think so, it is something for us to be concerned about as we are seeing growing numbers (of Covid cases) in Pakistan society but one thing I do know about England is that conditions are massively improving there, shops are opening and they are also looking to revise the quarantine period downwards from 14 days at the end of the month"

"Once the camp was cancelled in Lahore we were looking to go to England earlier; So we were working with their medical team, with the ECB to try and get to England earlier; So the plan was to get to England around the 27,28,29th of June; England will provide bio-secure environments and players will be tested again in England; So we are confident, comfortable that the provisions that the ECB has put in place will keep our players safe to allow them to practice and play their matches in a safe environment"

"Currently Misbah is looking at the plan for reserves - we have 4 players in the reserves and we are looking at whether we need to draw on those reserves to go to England, on top of that we are looking at 3-4 of other reserves who Misbah is identifying at the moment, they will also be tested and will be on alert if required in England"

‎"Whilst the number 10 sounds very high, we have time on our side, and its important that we dont panic at this stage; There is a 10-12 day period after which they will be retested and if they have 2 negative tests within a 48 hr period, they will arrive in England and be retested there, they will be isolated from the squad until the results come in and once those results are negative they will join as part of their quarantine period to be able to train"

"It sounds like a lot of players (who are Covid+) but we planned for this potential scenario; We started planning for this about a month ago about what if this or that happens"

"There will be minimal disruption to those players (who have tested covid+) because their T20 series will start 6 weeks later; So there is plenty of time for these players to recover and join the squad in England as well"

"We are still planning this but we expect to have 23 players (19 + 4 reserves) to take to England on the 28th, and when the remaining players join us in England anywhere between 10-15th of July and the numbers will go up"

"If these players are tested positive again in 10-12 days time, then further reserves that Misbah is identifying today will come in an join the squad depending on which discipline those players are who cannot make it"

"We have asked players about it and they would rather quarantine at home (than with PCB) - we have given them strict guidelines and they know what they need to do to make the tour of England"

"Everyday we will be checking in with them to make sure that they are strictly adhering to the isolation policy"

"Look these cricketers havent played cricket for 4 months and they are young cricketers; Maybe there is over enthusiasm on their behalf to go and play - they think we are athletes and nothing will happen to us; Look at the society as a whole, not much social distancing happening, so this is an issue for the society at a broad level"

"For those who are positive, now is not the time to come down on them; Lets wait and until they get through the tests but this is something we will be looking as a policy moving forward; This is because, Cricket and Covid needs to co-exist for the next 12-18 months, so all we can keep on doing is guiding them and making sure they are strictly sticking to guidelines, if we find that players are not following self isolation policies given to them, they will not be going to England"

"If we receive reports that they are outside and not complying then we will come down on them (hard)"

"We cannot control people when they go home; Let me give examples of PL Managers, players - they were isolating but were covid+, Tennis players, basketball players - the fact is with athletes you cannot prevent them from contracting (covid-19) from their acquaintances and family members as we have seen in England"

Referring to what PC Medical director said about this being risky

"We cannot get away from the fact that this is a difficult time at the moment, its challenging and risky time for everybody but lets look at the trend of this diseases in England vs Pakistan; We thought long and hard about touring England, and because of the (reducing) figures we are seeing and bio-secure venues, the facilities and match environments these guys will be walking into, there is nothing better"

"We are also in touch with the touring WI side and they have told us that England have implemented exactly what they said they would do (in terms of bio-secure etc)"

"We cannot sit with players at their homes everyday" [in reply to question about Fakhar saying he practiced a lot and didnt care about covid-19]

"All we can do is provide them guidelines and speak to them on a daily basis"

"Athletes think they are immune to covid-19 and nothing will happen to them so this is the kind of education that we are constantly trying to get to our players is that you must remember that whoever you are, you are prone to getting Covid-19"

"After these 10 positive cases, all players will realize the seriousness of the situation; Sometimes it takes things like these for people to realize how serious something is"

Question asked about why didnt PCB carry out tests soon after squad was selected

"If we had tested them earlier, we would have had to test them again and again as they didnt have symptoms; We had left ourselves 10-11 days after tests for departure as per our original departure date of 5th July"

"Fact is that in PSL, covid-19 was newly spreading around the world and the confidence of players and support staff was gone and we couldnt force them to stay, could we?"

"We had a duty of care to those players and if something had happened in those 24 hours, then we would not have had a leg to stand on; We had to make a quick decision about the PSL and I believe we made the right decision"

"Last week Mani Sahib met PM Imran Khan, and explained to him about Pakistan going on this tour of England; The PM said that it was important that all SOPs need to be followed when we are in England; We will follow those SOPs and the players are ready; There is no restriction from GOP for us and a chartered flight is arriving in Lahore on the 28th to take us to England"

"At the point we are all system go (in terms of GOP approvals)"

"This is all unprecedented and we wouldnt be putting the players at risk by going to England if we werent comfortable and confident that the facilities that England are putting on are the very best in terms of safety and medical provisions"
 
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Says the stalwart on whose watch the players attended a training camp with wearing masks and without observing social distancing.

Looks like PCB is predictability throwing the players under the bus for their own incompetence.
 
I just don't see this tour going ahead...or the games be played with anywhere close to the right teams.

Should be called off.
 
Says the stalwart on whose watch the players attended a training camp with wearing masks and without observing social distancing.

Looks like PCB is predictability throwing the players under the bus for their own incompetence.

Which PCB training camp was this?
 
LAHORE (Dunya News) – The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) headquarters at Gaddafi Stadium has been closed till June 30 owing to rapid growth of coronavirus cases in the provincial capital.

The PCB office was closed till June 21 earlier, said a spokesman for the PCB on Monday.

“However, the PCB authorities have decided now for further closure of the offices as Lahore has seen a record increase in COVID-19 cases in the recent days,” he said.

The headquarters, which was closed on March 17 after outbreak of COVID-19, remained closed for more than two months and all the employees were working from home. The office was reopened in the first week of June for few days but was again closed due to increase in coronavirus cases.

“All employees will again be doing their day-to-day work from home,” he said.
 
Says the stalwart on whose watch the players attended a training camp with wearing masks and without observing social distancing.

Looks like PCB is predictability throwing the players under the bus for their own incompetence.

Think you need to read up on some reports etc.
 
Which PCB training camp was this?

Think you need to read up on some reports etc.

That is no justification. The players were training together, the pictures were uploaded on social media and PCB was obviously aware of the fact that they were training together without observing SOPs.

It is clear that either no instructions were given to the players or the players did not listen to PCB. Whatever the case, the PCB has to cop the blame because the players blatantly violated SOPs on their watch.

This attitude that “it is not our fault if players don’t listen” is the same attitude the government has observed with respect to the public, and we are seeing the results.
 
That is no justification. The players were training together, the pictures were uploaded on social media and PCB was obviously aware of the fact that they were training together without observing SOPs.

It is clear that either no instructions were given to the players or the players did not listen to PCB. Whatever the case, the PCB has to cop the blame because the players blatantly violated SOPs on their watch.

This attitude that “it is not our fault if players don’t listen” is the same attitude the government has observed with respect to the public, and we are seeing the results.

Wasim Khan said that instructions were given to players but they could have been exposed to the disease via relatives visiting them etc.

PCB were made aware and the players were warned. The players had in them to not take risks but they didnt.
 
I wrote earlier about unacceptable reckless behaviours during a pandemic:

1. Having domestic servants.
2. Seeing family members they don’t live with.
3. Seeing friends.
4. Attending places of worship.
5. Having massages or seeing sex workers.
6. Going to the shops.
7. Playing sport or attending a gym.
8. Having a haircut by someone not living in the household.
9. Going to a restaurant.
10. Allowing a child in the household to attend school.

Wasim Khan needs to state whether the PCB educated the players to eliminate reckless and dangerous behaviours like going to the Mosque or having servants or letting their kids go to school.
 
I wrote earlier about unacceptable reckless behaviours during a pandemic:

1. Having domestic servants.
2. Seeing family members they don’t live with.
3. Seeing friends.
4. Attending places of worship.
5. Having massages or seeing sex workers.
6. Going to the shops.
7. Playing sport or attending a gym.
8. Having a haircut by someone not living in the household.
9. Going to a restaurant.
10. Allowing a child in the household to attend school.

Wasim Khan needs to state whether the PCB educated the players to eliminate reckless and dangerous behaviours like going to the Mosque or having servants or letting their kids go to school.

Wasim Khan is not a social scientist fgs!

Next time, he should have put players in a jail - and see how it goes.
 
I wrote earlier about unacceptable reckless behaviours during a pandemic:

1. Having domestic servants.
2. Seeing family members they don’t live with.
3. Seeing friends.
4. Attending places of worship.
5. Having massages or seeing sex workers.
6. Going to the shops.
7. Playing sport or attending a gym.
8. Having a haircut by someone not living in the household.
9. Going to a restaurant.
10. Allowing a child in the household to attend school.

Wasim Khan needs to state whether the PCB educated the players to eliminate reckless and dangerous behaviours like going to the Mosque or having servants or letting their kids go to school.

Wasim Khan is not a social scientist fgs!

Next time, he should have put players in a jail - and see how it goes.
 
Wasim Khan is not a social scientist fgs!

Next time, he should have put players in a jail - and see how it goes.
Shouldn’t the PCB have given contracted players a set of directions about how to stay safe? Now 1/3 of the team is unavailable to travel.
 
Just seems too keen for this tour to go ahead, whereas the stance should be caution and a wait and see approach, instead of jumping into the tour.
 
Shouldn’t the PCB have given contracted players a set of directions about how to stay safe? Now 1/3 of the team is unavailable to travel.

What makes you think he didnt?

If anything its the playerz who havent followed the stated protocol
 
There have been pictures circulating of players training together when they shouldn't have been. God knows what else they have been up to that hasn't been made public.
 
I wrote earlier about unacceptable reckless behaviours during a pandemic:

1. Having domestic servants.
2. Seeing family members they don’t live with.
3. Seeing friends.
4. Attending places of worship.
5. Having massages or seeing sex workers.
6. Going to the shops.
7. Playing sport or attending a gym.
8. Having a haircut by someone not living in the household.
9. Going to a restaurant.
10. Allowing a child in the household to attend school.

Wasim Khan needs to state whether the PCB educated the players to eliminate reckless and dangerous behaviours like going to the Mosque or having servants or letting their kids go to school.

I swear some of the stuff you are coming up with today just makes me think you are just trolling.

To repeat what the other guy said Wasim Khan can't control all that.

Masjids you should attend, we are Muslim after all and if the govt feels that it's safe enough that masjids are open then attend. You can take precaution by reading sunnah at home, doing wudu at home, bring your own prayer mat, wear gloves and a mask. You can't just avoid going to the mosque because you are scared, if jummah is on you should attend and not just make an excuse because you are scared. If you have vulnerable old people then by all means they can stay home but if you are fit then go. I'd listen to the video by Dr Zakir Naik on that issue.
 
Thank God some of you posters are not the CEO of Pakistan cricket or in fact work in PCB. These 10 players and one support staff are just unlucky and will inshallah recover fast and travel to England. These 10 individuals have no symptoms and it’s just a case of asymptomatic. It’s not like the tour is cancelled and shouldn’t be cancelled. You should never panic. If there were more players that had COVID and was God forbid severe then possibly would get cancelled. But we should be thankful that more than half the squad is not COVID positive. Inshallah they will recover fast and everyone will be safe during the tour. My brothers just pray for the betterment of the players that are positive for COVID and have everyone safe and secure
 
Wasim Khan said that instructions were given to players but they could have been exposed to the disease via relatives visiting them etc.

PCB were made aware and the players were warned. The players had in them to not take risks but they didnt.

Two different situations.

1 Player got infected by visiting relative and spread it to others due to not follwing social distancing vs 10 players got infected by visiting relatives independently.
 
I watch other athletes in other sports who were under strict quarantine and were punished on any violation of that quarantine. End of the day fault comes down to the PCB for not making the players aware of the situation, and in any instances of a slip up to see those players fined. I don't know why they are now throwing players under the bus for their mess.
 
I watch other athletes in other sports who were under strict quarantine and were punished on any violation of that quarantine. End of the day fault comes down to the PCB for not making the players aware of the situation, and in any instances of a slip up to see those players fined. I don't know why they are now throwing players under the bus for their mess.

How do you know they didn't make the players aware?
 
I mean if they were that oblivious to take photos standing next to each other you can feel pretty sure that they did a lot more than just that.
 
A bad idea from the start.

Why is he insistent on the tour? Because they need the money!
 
I mean sending out a reference sheet and calling it a day isn't quite doing enough is it? Especially seeing 10 players have come positive. Embarrassing.

You mean these guys have lived as hermits and haven't followed what's going on in the Worid and the advice given.
 
A bad idea from the start.

Why is he insistent on the tour? Because they need the money!

Are you saying that if there was no tour, these guys would have acted more responsibly and the virus is a consequence of the tour. Rest in peace logic.
 
" After these 10 positive cases, all players will realize seriousness of the situation" : Wasim Khan"

And, it will take 20 players positive for PCB to take this matter seriously.
 
I wrote earlier about unacceptable reckless behaviours during a pandemic:

1. Having domestic servants.
2. Seeing family members they don’t live with.
3. Seeing friends.
4. Attending places of worship.
5. Having massages or seeing sex workers.
6. Going to the shops.
7. Playing sport or attending a gym.
8. Having a haircut by someone not living in the household.
9. Going to a restaurant.
10. Allowing a child in the household to attend school.

Wasim Khan needs to state whether the PCB educated the players to eliminate reckless and dangerous behaviours like going to the Mosque or having servants or letting their kids go to school.

I swear some of the stuff you are coming up with today just makes me think you are

You can't just avoid going to the mosque because you are scared,.

There is a pandemic going on.

Any person in an affected area who does any of the things listed above is irresponsible, reckless and selfish and should be confined to a modern-day equivalent of a leper colony until the pandemic passes because they aren’t responsible enough to be allowed to make their own choices because they choose things which harm and kill other people.

I repeat, people in affected areas who do the ten activities I listed are responsible for the suffering and death of the people to whom they transmit this virus.

And the PCB needed to order their players not to do any of those ten things.
 
You mean these guys have lived as hermits and haven't followed what's going on in the Worid and the advice given.

See the players will think what they want, but as an employer it is their responsibility to make sure their employees understand. They could have very well said this is the quarantine protocol and anyone found in violation will receive xyz punishment or a fine but clearly it was not the case.
 
ten players asymptotic have tested positive and will InshAllah recover or will probably not even feel much. Keep in mind significant majority of the people recover from this virus. I don’t understand why some posters want to cancel the tour and stay locked up for another six months when “may may be” we have a vaccine?

The virus will spread and 60-70% of the world population will get it. Apply social distancing and move on. No need to panic.
 
Please note and Wasim said this too

1. All players who have tested so far with exception of Rizwan and Bhatti are T20 specialists
2. That part of tour starts around 23rd August so plenty of time to recover etc.

My only concern is that practice intra squad games will be effected if not enough players in England.
 
I swear some of the stuff you are coming up with today just makes me think you are just trolling.

To repeat what the other guy said Wasim Khan can't control all that.

Masjids you should attend, we are Muslim after all and if the govt feels that it's safe enough that masjids are open then attend. You can take precaution by reading sunnah at home, doing wudu at home, bring your own prayer mat, wear gloves and a mask. You can't just avoid going to the mosque because you are scared, if jummah is on you should attend and not just make an excuse because you are scared. If you have vulnerable old people then by all means they can stay home but if you are fit then go. I'd listen to the video by Dr Zakir Naik on that issue.

Bro, I haven’t heard Dr. Naik, but you are misguided in this regard. I read an Ayaat few days back (forgot which sura), which clearly states that during pandemics, you stay at home - obviously, it’s suggesting domestic isolation, at which level will be determined by the risk level. Prophet (PBUH) himself has instructed that during such pandemic or draught or war situation, you stay at home and pray for mercy in isolation. Islam is the most logical & scientific religion, most modern as well ( every other major religion is older) - in any such unique situations, you can use your common sense and you’ll see that, the instructions were/are also as such. Regarding Jumma prayer, it’s not about being scared, rather it’s about limiting the spreading of a contamination through a very sticky virus. This is the biggest mistake of the situation - it’s not that going to mosque only you’ll get affected; rather think other way - you might be carrying the virus, going to mosque, you might contaminate the air, risking others. Also, by going to mosque, you are likely to bring an unwanted guest at home, risking own family members.

Few weeks back, one “pir” of Bangladesh passed away and his followers gathered for the Janaza - rumours were about half a million, but I guess from pictures around 50-60K people gathered in a large field and stayed there for over two hours. Eventually police came but they had very little to do - can’t shoot on people while these fanatics were like ready to die with their pir!!!! One such “murid” was caught in camera saying - by the blessings of Allah and huzur pak (their recent dead pir), nothing will happen. This virus is sent as a “gazab” from Allah to punish Chinese (for Ugyar atrocities), and the Jew/Nasara countries for bombing in Iraq, Libya, Syria (but these group never mentions Yamen for a reason) ...... within a week that area was affected and now, it’s one of the most severely affected areas of the country.
 
There is a pandemic going on.

Any person in an affected area who does any of the things listed above is irresponsible, reckless and selfish and should be confined to a modern-day equivalent of a leper colony until the pandemic passes because they aren’t responsible enough to be allowed to make their own choices because they choose things which harm and kill other people.

I repeat, people in affected areas who do the ten activities I listed are responsible for the suffering and death of the people to whom they transmit this virus.

And the PCB needed to order their players not to do any of those ten things.

From his statements, I think there were clear instructions given to the players - not sure if all those 10 points were covered (you are absolutely spot on - we have received instructions from service Ontario & kid’s school as well, and most of the points are identical to the words; in fact now my hair looks like Pokemon .....), but they must have worked out something similar. It was the players’ responsibility to follow the instructions and maintain zero tolerance at home.

I don’t think PCB should be blamed here for arranging the camp, as I am sure enough precautions were taken there - it’s the players who is carrying it in from their home. What PCB could have done is close the shop entirely for a year ..... I don’t think players would have liked it much had their gravy train stopped ......
 
Irresponsible from both the players and PCB here. Mind boggling how a professional sports team doesn't have basic discipline. How stupid can it get!!!
 
Really feeling for those players. I hope they recover quickly.

Shocking how not one or two, but 10 players can come down with it all at once. There has been some irresponsible behaviour somewhere.

It only goes to show how dangerous the virus is. Even well-paid, fit athletes with access to the best medical care aren't safe.

There should be no cricket matches held till a vaccine is found.
 
ECB conducted 702 Covid tests of players, staff and officials at Ageas Bowl and Old Trafford. All 702 tests were negative.
 
ECB conducted 702 Covid tests of players, staff and officials at Ageas Bowl and Old Trafford. All 702 tests were negative.

Wow that's brilliant shows you the mentality between Pakistan players and english players and staff
 
Really feeling for those players. I hope they recover quickly.

Shocking how not one or two, but 10 players can come down with it all at once. There has been some irresponsible behaviour somewhere.

It only goes to show how dangerous the virus is. Even well-paid, fit athletes with access to the best medical care aren't safe.

There should be no cricket matches held till a vaccine is found.

They are very safe, the stats show they are more likely to die in a car crash than with the virus. It's the possibility that elderly relatives maybe at risk is the problem.
 
ECB conducted 702 Covid tests of players, staff and officials at Ageas Bowl and Old Trafford. All 702 tests were negative.

This is how a professional board operates. Apart from winning the World Cup, ECB’s biggest achievement of late was getting rid of Wasim Khan and making him Pakistan’s problem.
 
This is how a professional board operates. Apart from winning the World Cup, ECB’s biggest achievement of late was getting rid of Wasim Khan and making him Pakistan’s problem.

So wasim khan has to take the blame all of it ?
 
They are very safe, the stats show they are more likely to die in a car crash than with the virus. It's the possibility that elderly relatives maybe at risk is the problem.

People from BAME are likely to die of corno than other back grounds
 
So wasim khan has to take the blame all of it ?

I don’t know, you tell me. We were told that he is highly professional and was set to be the next ECB head before he decided to do a favor on Pakistan by joining PCB. However, we are 1.5 years into his tenure and PCB is still operation like a headless chicken.
 
I don’t know, you tell me. We were told that he is highly professional and was set to be the next ECB head before he decided to do a favor on Pakistan by joining PCB. However, we are 1.5 years into his tenure and PCB is still operation like a headless chicken.

He needs to take some of the blame but not at all the players have to take responsibility but so does the board eg they were all training together well some were. Can you go further regarding operation like a headless chicken tbh hes doing more than a decent job compared to before
 
Pardon me,

The FA is a far more richer board than anything in world cricket. All clubs conduct testing on a daily basis and many positive tests come out as a result of that vigorous testing. So does that mean that the FA and PCB are unprofessional boards, whereas the ECB is the most professional out of the 3?
 
Alright, now that Hafeez has taken this panga by publically announcing his private Test results, he now need to retake the PCB test and produce a negative result for us to truly question the PCB in this case.
 
Pakistan players arrive in a bio-secure hotel in Lahore

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I'd like to believe that the players took it seriously before the failed tests, but it seems from what Wasim Khan is saying, they perhaps did not.
 
Says the stalwart on whose watch the players attended a training camp with wearing masks and without observing social distancing.

Looks like PCB is predictability throwing the players under the bus for their own incompetence.

You really have no clue do you?

Testing positive means nothing, really nothing at all. Can someone update on the status of those who are infected?

Or are they busy on the socials same like Afridi who was infected?
 
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Testing positive means nothing, really nothing at all. Can someone update on the status of those who are infected?

Or are they busy on the socials same like Afidi who was infected?

What nonsense is this? Please keep your ignorance to yourself.

Testing positive means something - it means that even if you are unlikely to die yourself, you can pass the virus onto an elderly or to someone with an underlying condition and they could die.

If testing positive means nothing, does that mean you are not taking any precautions and won’t mind if you or your loved ones get infected?

Your ignorance disgusts me. People like you are the reason Pakistan is closing in on almost 200k cases and I am sure plenty of the 3,700+ who have died had the same attitude as yours. “It is nothing” and “it is just like normal flu” until the virus killed them.

You are the one who doesn’t have a clue and COVID-19 is not something to be taken lightly. Not at all.

May the Almighty keep you and your family safe from your ignorance and arrogance.
 
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Mr Mamoon would have had no issues with Wasim Khan if he was a Mian Mohd Nawaz Sharif or Najam Sethi appointee.
 
Are you saying that if there was no tour, these guys would have acted more responsibly and the virus is a consequence of the tour. Rest in peace logic.

They obviously violated social distancing standards during the training camp for the tour!

I do not know what might have been, I can only comment on what happened. And that much is obvious by the test results that their close contact resulted in a lot of positive cases.

And what’s more? They still haven’t canceled the tour despite more than 10+ cases.
 
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They obviously violated social distancing standards during the training camp for the tour!

I do not know what might have been, I can only comment on what happened. And that much is obvious by the test results that their close contact resulted in a lot of positive cases.

And what’s more? They still haven’t canceled the tour despite more than 10+ cases.

No need to cancel the tour, why should they? The players are not in danger, and if they had any brains they would keep their family safe.
 
PCB needs to take some responsibility for not following social distancing and doing more to protect players return to training. Look at how the ECB have behaved.
 
No need to cancel the tour, why should they? The players are not in danger, and if they had any brains they would keep their family safe.

The players have free-will but the PCB must bear responsibility for not strictly following and enforcing social distancing standards throughout the preparations for this tour.

All sports worldwide are shut down but for some reason (hint: money), this tour is deemed more important than public and player health.
 
Bro, I haven’t heard Dr. Naik, but you are misguided in this regard. I read an Ayaat few days back (forgot which sura), which clearly states that during pandemics, you stay at home - obviously, it’s suggesting domestic isolation, at which level will be determined by the risk level. Prophet (PBUH) himself has instructed that during such pandemic or draught or war situation, you stay at home and pray for mercy in isolation. Islam is the most logical & scientific religion, most modern as well ( every other major religion is older) - in any such unique situations, you can use your common sense and you’ll see that, the instructions were/are also as such. Regarding Jumma prayer, it’s not about being scared, rather it’s about limiting the spreading of a contamination through a very sticky virus. This is the biggest mistake of the situation - it’s not that going to mosque only you’ll get affected; rather think other way - you might be carrying the virus, going to mosque, you might contaminate the air, risking others. Also, by going to mosque, you are likely to bring an unwanted guest at home, risking own family members.

Few weeks back, one “pir” of Bangladesh passed away and his followers gathered for the Janaza - rumours were about half a million, but I guess from pictures around 50-60K people gathered in a large field and stayed there for over two hours. Eventually police came but they had very little to do - can’t shoot on people while these fanatics were like ready to die with their pir!!!! One such “murid” was caught in camera saying - by the blessings of Allah and huzur pak (their recent dead pir), nothing will happen. This virus is sent as a “gazab” from Allah to punish Chinese (for Ugyar atrocities), and the Jew/Nasara countries for bombing in Iraq, Libya, Syria (but these group never mentions Yamen for a reason) ...... within a week that area was affected and now, it’s one of the most severely affected areas of the country.

Brother go look up the video i'm referring to by Dr Zakir Naik. Death unfortunately stalks you at every turn (sorry to sound like a Final Destination movie) but you can't just not go to the mosque because you are scared. Go look up the video it was released during Ramadan time, i believe a brother from Karachi sent in a question to him. He's very on point and i don't think i missed his point.
 
All sports worldwide are shut down but for some reason (hint: money), this tour is deemed more important than public and player health.

Not quite... The first England vs West Indies Test starts in less than two weeks. And there's plenty of other sports happening right now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a day!&#55357;&#56837; Brathwaite's XI lead by 181 runs after dismissing Holder's XI for 193 all out.<br>Brathwaite 35(61)<br>Campbell 49(59)<br>Joseph 2/17<br>Warrican 1/4<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MenInMaroon?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MenInMaroon</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WIReady?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WIReady</a> <a href="https://t.co/Wgg3Tt0KW7">pic.twitter.com/Wgg3Tt0KW7</a></p>— Windies Cricket (@windiescricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/windiescricket/status/1275858159823921152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Not quite... The first England vs West Indies Test starts in less than two weeks. And there's plenty of other sports happening right now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a day!&#55357;&#56837; Brathwaite's XI lead by 181 runs after dismissing Holder's XI for 193 all out.<br>Brathwaite 35(61)<br>Campbell 49(59)<br>Joseph 2/17<br>Warrican 1/4<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MenInMaroon?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MenInMaroon</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WIReady?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WIReady</a> <a href="https://t.co/Wgg3Tt0KW7">pic.twitter.com/Wgg3Tt0KW7</a></p>— Windies Cricket (@windiescricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/windiescricket/status/1275858159823921152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Thanks for the correction; still feel as if all forms of close contact (even amongst regularly tested individuals) should be prevented for the time being.
 
Brother go look up the video i'm referring to by Dr Zakir Naik. Death unfortunately stalks you at every turn (sorry to sound like a Final Destination movie) but you can't just not go to the mosque because you are scared. Go look up the video it was released during Ramadan time, i believe a brother from Karachi sent in a question to him. He's very on point and i don't think i missed his point.

I haven't seen the video, but did you notice the references I used here - does Dr. Naik's speech carry more credibility than those?
 
I haven't seen the video, but did you notice the references I used here - does Dr. Naik's speech carry more credibility than those?

Guys stick to cricket pls
 
I haven't seen the video, but did you notice the references I used here - does Dr. Naik's speech carry more credibility than those?

These kind of people are the reason why the pandemic is spreading so much in Pakistan. Masjids are important but this is literally a pandemic and we need to control the amount of cases. I completely agree with all your points MMHS.

Now look where it's landed us, we've had so many people and cricketers testing positive.
 
So Sam Curran is showing symptoms and self isolating - question is - how did get infected in such an environment?
 
Wow - seems like this happened years ago.

But kudos to PCB/ECB they managed to get it right and allowed us fans to watch some cricket at last!
 
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