Ahmed Shehzad deserves more respect

[Sher Khan]

Whilst, Ahmad Shehzad is marginally less talented than Umar, I feel Shehzad has the capability to serve Pakistan better than Umar. The reason being I disagree with our fans who claim Shehzad to be selfish. Every player wishes to cement their place in the national team and it is nothing new. Shehzad looked alert and focussed last game, it seemed the only thing of concern to him on the field was to ensure Pakistan got off to a good start and win the match to revive our fortunes. He seems to be working hard and wants to improve. I have a soft side for the guy, as he receives a lot of undeserved criticism his way despite being a patriotic and hard working person. For example, our fans will remember him retiring hurt after being struck on the head rather Than that excellent innings he was playing for his country. I am confident that if people guide him well and support him Inshaallah he will become a reliable opener for us.

 

[Abdullah719]

He has been playing for 9 years and the argument in favour of him is STILL that if he is 'supported' and 'guided' then he'll become a reliable opener. That sums it up.

 

[Syed1]

He is garbage

/thread

 

[hailian]

Under the garbage captain he sounds like garbage otherwise under Misbah he performed very well and scored many centuries.

 

[Syed1]

Under the garbage captain he sounds like garbage otherwise under Misbah he performed very well and scored many centuries.

How many world tournaments did Misbah win?

 

[Abdullah719]

Under the garbage captain he sounds like garbage otherwise under Misbah he performed very well and scored many centuries.

Under Misbah his stats in ODIs are 36/72 with 3 100s in 42 games, yeah, what a world-beater!

 

[Pete Rose]

Which Umar?

 

[Greenstorm]

Seriously ?

 

[Sher Khan]

Which Umar?

Umar Akmal

 

[DRsohail]

he should earn that respect a fluke 44 with low strike rate does not make him good,perform consistently and earn it.

 

[Sher Khan]

He has been playing for 9 years and the argument in favour of him is STILL that if he is 'supported' and 'guided' then he'll become a reliable opener. That sums it up.

Well, name a better opener than him in Pakistan currently. Please don't name an untested player from the domestic level. The likes of Shan Masood, Sami Aslam, Iftikhar Ahmed and Umar Amin are bullies at the domestic level, but look far worse than Shehzad. The fact is he is our best option and we have to continue to work on him.

 

[Abdullah719]

Well, name a better opener than him in Pakistan currently. Please don't name an untested player from the domestic level. The likes of Shan Masood, Sami Aslam, Iftikhar Ahmed and Umar Amin are bullies at the domestic level, but look far worse than Shehzad. The fact is he is our best option and we have to continue to work on him.

How is an 'untested player' worse than a tested failure?

We heard the same arguments before Fakhar made his debut yet he turned out to be a huge upgrade on the likes of Shehzad.

 

[Pete Rose]

Umar Akmal

I feared as much. A parallel universe thread from 2010 where we are comparing Ahmed shehzad and Umar Akmal as the ends of a scale on which to judge Pakistani batting

 

[dauntless]

LOL at marginally less talented than umar akmal.This shehzad with no feet movement and his ugly swing of the bat is not talented at all.He is one of the ugliest batsman in world cricket.He should not be mentioned with umar akmal. Umar has his shortcomings but he is way way more talented than that shehzadl

 

[CricketingMinds]

what a joke of a thread.

This shows our fans' volatility. I am sure Sher Khan would have been the first to go give 'gaali' to Shahzad and cursed at Inzi too for selecting him had Shahzad failed in the 2nd T20.

Our fans shower love and support to these players after one "decent" performance...which is another reason why the players become complacent...resulting in failures in next games (and lack of consistency).

We need to be consistent with our sentiments towards our players (like how we demand consistency in performances from the players)

 

[Mainul]

Unfortunately he will very soon be exposed again.That is i mean he will consume dot balls and put pressure on Fakhar. He is not the solution.Bring back Sami.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

No he really doesn’t deserve that sort of respect.If he hasn’t established himself in 9 years with/around the team,he shouldn’t be near it.He is a domestic bully but a mental midget at the international level.A pure TTF.Do you not remember how him and Akmal lost us an easily winnable match vs NZ in the WT20 2016?Purely selfish batting.I used to be a big fan of his around 2013/2014 but then his selfish batting and attitude issues turned me against him.

 

[sshakir411]

Any players who requires hand holding and reassurances time and time again is not cut out for top tier sports. Both Umar and Ahmed are tried and tested failures.

 

[Fahdi]

Well, name a better opener than him in Pakistan currently. Please don't name an untested player from the domestic level. The likes of Shan Masood, Sami Aslam, Iftikhar Ahmed and Umar Amin are bullies at the domestic level, but look far worse than Shehzad. The fact is he is our best option and we have to continue to work on him.

Fakhar Zaman was untested until recently and he had stats like average 50 SR 95+. Sharjeel had average 50 and SR 100. They were both 'untested' at one point and we were made to bear Imran Farhat who many people also defended by saying what you have written here. The bottom line is untested players can be potentially better than what we already have whereas tested failures will always remain tested failures.

 

[Abdul]

No, he does not. He's a loser.

 

[hailian]

Misbah has won Asia cup, PSL, beat india in india and South Africa in South Africa. And Misbah as captain raised his game to the next level and lead from the front and always been in the top scorers. While this coward/selfish soul not only drop catches all the time but also hide himself and send new rookies like Fahim as opener. Do not perform with bat nor with gloves but only with his mouth. Look busy do nothing kind of player. CT was purely won by Fakhar, Azhar and Hasan and that hostile spell of Aamir in final. All of his innings in which he has scored are including drop catches, other than that he did nothing for the team with no leadership skills.

 

[pakistani pride]

LOL uhmmm no!
a 30 ball 40 on a mickey mouse ground.
He is pathetic and shouldnt have been in the squad.
A true TTF.

 

[Abdullah719]

Misbah has won Asia cup, PSL, beat india in india and South Africa in South Africa. And Misbah as captain raised his game to the next level and lead from the front and always been in the top scorers. While this coward/selfish soul not only drop catches all the time but also hide himself and send new rookies like Fahim as opener. Do not perform with bat nor with gloves but only with his mouth. Look busy do nothing kind of player. CT was purely won by Fakhar, Azhar and Hasan and that hostile spell of Aamir in final. All of his innings in which he has scored are including drop catches, other than that he did nothing for the team with no leadership skills.

Thread is about Shehzad.

When Shehzad goes out to bat, is Sarfaraz out there magically, somehow holding him back from making runs?

Also, why doesn't Sarfaraz stop Shehzad from scoring runs during PSL?

Unreal conspiracies...

 

[hailian]

Thread is about Shehzad.

When Shehzad goes out to bat, is Sarfaraz out there magically, somehow holding him back from making runs?

Also, why doesn't Sarfaraz stop Shehzad from scoring runs during PSL?

Unreal conspiracies...

Let’s be fair, you are right. But unfortunately there are couple of people on this forum who hates certain players from certain ethnicities, so I tried to give them the same medicine. They used to criticize Misbah and Azhar for no good reason and came up with the same conspiracies you are not willing to tolerate now. Do you think Azhar was losing due to his captaincy skills? And he was telling Wahab to go and concede runs and he was advising batsmen to not score runs? Safaraz is just lucky that he got a great team otherwise Azhar had the worst team to lead with no Amir, Hasan , Shadab and Fakhar. Guess what? his ace bowler was Wahab? He raised his ODI game, scored pile of runs and improved his strike rate to 80+ (while he was captain) but due to the weaker team he kept losing away tough tours. But despite his every effort he was a villain? I will advise certain people on this forum to take off their ethnic glasses!!

 

[Abdullah719]

Let’s be fair, you are right. But unfortunately there are couple of people on this forum who hates certain players from certain ethnicities, so I tried to give them the same medicine. They used to criticize Misbah and Azhar for no good reason and came up with the same conspiracies you are not willing to tolerate now. Do you think Azhar was losing due to his captaincy skills? And he was telling Wahab to go and concede runs and he was advising batsmen to not score runs? Safaraz is just lucky that he got a great team otherwise Azhar had the worst team to lead with no Amir, Hasan , Shadab and Fakhar. Guess what? his ace bowler was Wahab? He raised his ODI game, scored pile of runs and improved his strike rate to 80+ (while he was captain) but due to the weaker team he kept losing away tough tours. But despite his every effort he was a villain? I will advise certain people on this forum to take off their ethnic glasses!!

Azhar is not a villain, he is just not tactically good. He is not a leader, you can tell that from his demeanour. He hasn't been a regular captain at any level of professional cricket.

In comparison, Sarfaraz has led teams through his professional cricketing career.

We can discuss more on Azhar's captaincy elsewhere if you wish. Now let's bring the thread back on track please. Shehzad is the topic.

 

[Hasan123]

He is the most hated player on this forum. No matter what he does he will be hated.

He did well in the last game but he needs to be more consistent and also show more intent. Under Arthur he's stayed away from controversy and he's also been man managed much better.

 

[in_cutter]

What happened? Did he smash a hundred ball 200??

 

[Chief Destroyer]

He is the most hated player on this forum. No matter what he does he will be hated.

He did well in the last game but he needs to be more consistent and also show more intent. Under Arthur he's stayed away from controversy and he's also been man managed much better.

Any player would be hated if they got as many chances with nothing to show.

 

[Railu Katta]

He scores on a small ground and he should be respected? He should be dropped permanently

 

[PakSarZameen]

He is the most hated player on this forum. No matter what he does he will be hated.

He did well in the last game but he needs to be more consistent and also show more intent. Under Arthur he's stayed away from controversy and he's also been man managed much better.

Exactly, he has been decent in his T20 comeback and should be persisted with for another 10 matches.

 

[Slog]

Under the garbage captain he sounds like garbage otherwise under Misbah he performed very well and scored many centuries.

lol for years and years Shehzad lovers said that under Misbah his performances dropped and the captain was responsible for that

And now suddenly under Misbah his performances were great

Shehzad has been consistent. He has been garbage under every captain and worst under Afridi

 

[Mamoon]

Always good to see him score runs. I maintain my soft spot for him and I believe he is our best opener in all formats.

His head is not in the right place, and helping him fulfill his potential would be the greatest accomplishment of Mickey as Pakistan coach.

Before the talk of his stats and how he doesn’t have the talent and has xyz shortcomings commence again, after 9 years, we know what his strengths and weaknesses are; I don’t see the purpose of further dissection.

He will be back in all formats soon and he will be here for years to come. The more pertinent question is that can Mickey take his game to the next level? Maybe yes, maybe not. However, Mickey is the best man to do it for now. I think his best years are ahead of him and he will come good.

He has been misguided and misunderstood - the scars will take time to heal but they will. Faith and confidence is all he needs and everything else will fall in place.

 

[Sher Khan]

Always good to see him score runs. I maintain my soft spot for him and I believe he is our best opener in all formats.

His head is not in the right place, and helping him fulfill his potential would be the greatest accomplishment of Mickey as Pakistan coach.

Before the talk of his stats and how he doesn’t have the talent and has xyz shortcomings commence again, after 9 years, we know what his strengths and weaknesses are; I don’t see the purpose of further dissection.

He will be back in all formats soon and he will be here for years to come. The more pertinent question is that can Mickey take his game to the next level? Maybe yes, maybe not. However, Mickey is the best man to do it for now. I think his best years are ahead of him and he will come good.

He has been misguided and misunderstood - the scars will take time to heal but they will. Faith and confidence is all he needs and everything else will fall in place.

Exactly, nice to see someone getting the point. I honestly think Mickey is the best person to help Shehzad out. If we keep trying other openers, we will keep going around in circles and ending up at Shehzad. He is our best opener, I don't expect him to become a world beater but he can definetly become a reliable opener for us in all formats.