Alex Hales, Gary Ballance and James Vince : What hope overseas?

[MenInG]

If you can't succeed in home conditions and in front of home support, on pitches you have been playing on all your lives then exactly what hope do you have on overseas tours?

 

[Slog]

Gary Ballance has some sort of a decent record and home and has shown that he has the aptitude for this level

Vince looks totally out of sorts and not cut out for this level

Hales is very un English opener and I doubt he will survive but he has a much better chance than Vince

 

[in_cutter]

Im not sure why they continued with Vince after first three Tests. Ballance averages 45?

 

[JibranAnsari]

Hales is a t20 hack , why would you select him for test team?

 

[Big Mac]

Vince will get dropped for Rashid and Moeen will move up one spot.

Cook
?????
Root
Ballance
Bairstow (wk)
Stokes
Moeen
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

Other possibility if they drop Ballance as well is to take the gloves away from Bairstow but I can't see that happening.

Cook
????
Root
Bairstow
Moeen
Stokes
Buttler (wk)
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

 

[HitWicket]

Vince is a frustrating one, he looks a good batsman capable at this level but just has that large issue with his overly active cover drive.

 

[hadi123]

Ballance is gritty I would stick with him. Vince should stick to ODI's and T20Is and not sure about Hales, I have lost a lot of respect for him this match though

 

[Amjid Javed]

All 3 have been given the summer to prove themselves and have failed on the whole, ballance may only be the one to survive

 

[SpiritOf1903]

That's the game. A victory by 9 wickets

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Ballance is gritty I would stick with him. Vince should stick to ODI's and T20Is and not sure about Hales, I have lost a lot of respect for him this match though

Ballance will stay. He's a free scorer om county - another Ramprakash ?. He has steel and you need that.

 

[Robert]

If you can't succeed in home conditions and in front of home support, on pitches you have been playing on all your lives then exactly what hope do you have on overseas tours?

Well, consider Gatting who was a marginal player in England, then went to India and hit 500 runs in a series.

It is all mental approach. But I don't think these guys will get many more chances.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Hales might get another chance as he did okay against SL. But I fear for Ballance and Vince.

England will probably go with five allrounders now against India and Bangladesh:

Cook
Hales
Root
Batsman*
M. Ali
Stokes
Bairstow
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

Who will the new bat be? We might see the return of Ian Bell. [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION]

 

[Abdullah]

If you can't succeed in home conditions and in front of home support, on pitches you have been playing on all your lives then exactly what hope do you have on overseas tours?

Whatever u say about them they played a role at edgbaston in that second innings. Especially vince n hales

 

[Suleiman]

Lyth will be back over Hales.

They have enough quality to replace these guys, they'll be fine. I know tying this series makes us look good, which we def are, but England were good this series. Their strong points are something other teams don't have namely world class allrounders and batting depth.

This is why no 1 team is the end all #1 team in tests, they all have weaknesses. For England it's a weak opening pair and shaky middle order. For us it's no good allrounder and hit or miss pacers.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Vince will get it together eventually. Ballance is ordinary. Hales too technically flawed to play test cricket.

 

[Finisher]

Hales games is not made for test/fc cricket, few years ago he was dropped from notts fc team.Alex lees will be my outside bet to make the next squad in place of hales, if not him then Adam Lyth because lyth is a specialist slip fielder.

Hopefully James Hildreth gets a chance, 38 centuries and counting yet no sign of international honours, he also scored a 50 v Pakistan for somerset. Done More then James Vince could do all series.

Bairstow could also play as a batsman with Ben Foakes coming in as keeper depending on how good he is against spin.

1-Cook
2-lyth
3-Root
4-Hildreth
5-Bairstow
6-Stokes
7-Moeen
8-Woakes
9-Rashid
10-Anderson
11-Broad

12-Lyth
13-Balance
14-Ball
15-Zafar Ansari

 

[Spectrum]

Vince is good for nothing...Average of 22 after playing 13 tests with only 2 fifties is pretty like Kapugedegaesque.
I doubt he would have survived even in Bangladeshi team.

 

[Big Mac]

As I said to Bilal7 a few months ago:

Dude, you replaced Cook at the top of the order with James Vince who is the modern day Yasir Hameed when it comes to providing catching practice for the slip cordon.

All hail the new fisherman.

meedmeedmeed

 

[introvert]

Lord vince will get another chance in the second innings where he must score 100 to survive in the team.

 

[Last Monetarist]

I can't believe I am saying this but England would have fared better if they had Ballance batting at 3 this winter.

 

[UN talkz]

I can't believe I am saying this but England would have fared better if they had Ballance batting at 3 this winter.

Agreed, Ballance much better than Vince