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“What’s happening to Imran Khan is outrageous,” wrote Piers Morgan, urging @elonmusk to act against what he called the “obvious suppression of support” for Pakistan’s former prime minister and to ensure his basic human rights are respected.

That concern has now been backed by alarming data shared by Jemima Goldsmith, Imran Khan’s former wife, who says X was the only independent platform left to highlight his imprisonment after his name was banned from Pakistani TV and radio.

In a direct appeal to Elon Musk, Jemima wrote: “Every time you post anything about Imran’s jail conditions, solitary confinement or our sons’ access to their father, the algorithm limits the post.” Strikingly, this assessment did not come from critics—but from Grok, X’s own AI.

According to Grok’s analysis of her account (3.56 million followers), Jemima’s reach collapsed by 97%, from 400–900 million impressions per month in 2023–early 2024 to just 28.6 million total in 2025. The turning point came in May 2025, when one post briefly hit 4 million impressions the day Pakistan’s X ban ended—before impressions were “instantly crushed to near zero.”

Elon Musk has repeatedly pledged that X will defend lawful political speech. If that promise matters, the question is unavoidable: is this an algorithmic glitch—or quiet compliance with censorship?
 
Not an algorithm. 100% censorship. Not to forget how they banned X across Pakistan days before February elections.
I doubt Elon Musk and Twitter are bothering about something as minor as Imran Khan. I remember reading a long article about the Chinese supplying Pakistan with the hardware and software they use for the great firewall.

In China you literally cannot use Xi's name on the internet except to praise.

I suspect something similar is being implemented in Pakistan. Negative posts regarding the regime or positive posts on Imran will get automatically blocked.
 
Israeli saazish :ninja:
We know that your friend Epstein made it clear that the Zionists hated IK. Since the coup the IMF has give. Funds, the EU has evrn refused to release the report on the PK elections.

So Why has the West stayed quiet? America is about to overthrow the Venezuelan govt because The election was stolen. However. No outrage in the West about this coup in PK or the massacres.
Do you need any more proof the Zionists love the coward Munir
 
We know that your friend Epstein made it clear that the Zionists hated IK. Since the coup the IMF has give. Funds, the EU has evrn refused to release the report on the PK elections.

So Why has the West stayed quiet? America is about to overthrow the Venezuelan govt because The election was stolen. However. No outrage in the West about this coup in PK or the massacres.
Do you need any more proof the Zionists love the coward Munir
your just a typical delusional Pakistani.

Imran khan is irrelevant to everyone outside the PTI camp and to the rest of the world. why would anyone go out of their way to block or promote him?

yes I can see PTI camp and his ex wife are sour because Elon musk has not given PTI the platform they are expecting

Imran is irrelevant to the world and Pakistan its better you and the rest of your gang understand this.

its just you usual conspiracy theory and 1+1=5, remember you guys said Pakistan were going to provide USA bases during Israel - Iran conflict what happened to that? your just bunch of liars.
 
your just a typical delusional Pakistani.

Imran khan is irrelevant to everyone outside the PTI camp and to the rest of the world. why would anyone go out of their way to block or promote him?

yes I can see PTI camp and his ex wife are sour because Elon musk has not given PTI the platform they are expecting

Imran is irrelevant to the world and Pakistan its better you and the rest of your gang understand this.

its just you usual conspiracy theory and 1+1=5, remember you guys said Pakistan were going to provide USA bases during Israel - Iran conflict what happened to that? your just bunch of liars.

So if he is irrelevant then you need to explain why he won a 2/3rd majority even after his party was banned, his workers were arrested and his name was banned from the media.
And btw
Why did you ignore this? You are like your cowardly leaders and run away. Please explain. Is the PK army behind the terrorism? This lady thinks so. Now run you coward.

 
So if he is irrelevant then you need to explain why he won a 2/3rd majority even after his party was banned, his workers were arrested and his name was banned from the media.
And btw
Why did you ignore this? You are like your cowardly leaders and run away. Please explain. Is the PK army behind the terrorism? This lady thinks so. Now run you coward.



I don't have free speech here its not my issue and I'm not going go through the effort again as it may get deleted again.

it didn't paint a very good picture of Imran khan when he said its lanaat on me if I ever go against the army and more clips of him sucking up to the army like no tomorrow.

I would have loved a response to that on the who lanaat is on today but the admins and mods knew it won't look too good on Imran khan so they deleted my post


if you want to discuss it on another platform that's no problem
 
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I already replied to this with a video response but the admins and mods who are pro PTI deleted it.

I don't have free speech here its not my issue and I'm not going go through the effort again as it may get deleted again.

it didn't paint a very good picture of Imran khan when he said its lanaat on me if I ever go against the army and more clips of him sucking up to the army like no tomorrow.

I would have loved a response to that on the who lanaat is on today but the admins and mods knew it won't look too good on Imran khan so they deleted my post


if you want to discuss it on another platform that's no problem
Ok. Go for it. What is this lady saying? Is it a crime? And if it isnt, why not? She accused the PK army( the whole army) and not just the Generals of being terrorists.
The forum is yours
 
Ok. Go for it. What is this lady saying? Is it a crime? And if it isnt, why not? She accused the PK army( the whole army) and not just the Generals of being terrorists.
The forum is yours
I don’t care about this lady and I’m not accountable for what she does. As long as she shows respect for Pakistan and its armed forces who are defending Pakistan from the enemies like India and Afghanistan and doesn’t push anti-state or extremist narratives, there’s no problem. If she goes down that road, public criticism will follow just like it does with Imran Khan.
 
There are report that Pak government is going to outright ban most social apps.
 
I don’t care about this lady and I’m not accountable for what she does. As long as she shows respect for Pakistan and its armed forces who are defending Pakistan from the enemies like India and Afghanistan and doesn’t push anti-state or extremist narratives, there’s no problem. If she goes down that road, public criticism will follow just like it does with Imran Khan.
She attacked the Whole army for being behind all the terrorism murders in PK and you kacked it. Condemn it man. Are you such a coward.
 
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I doubt Elon Musk and Twitter are bothering about something as minor as Imran Khan. I remember reading a long article about the Chinese supplying Pakistan with the hardware and software they use for the great firewall.

In China you literally cannot use Xi's name on the internet except to praise.

I suspect something similar is being implemented in Pakistan. Negative posts regarding the regime or positive posts on Imran will get automatically blocked.


5th largest country having a democratic elected leader leading them is not a minor issue for the western powers.
 
She attacked the Whole army for being behind all the terrorism murders in PK and you kacked it. Condemn it man. Are you such a coward.

Has Imran Khan not attacked the entire army?

Imran Khan was also behind the violence and terrorism of 9th May, so there’s no moral difference between imran khan and this lady .

you send lanaat on Imran Khan for that, and by the same standard I’ll send lanaat on this lady because both have attacked the army.

Same actions, same judgment.

Deal?
 
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Israeli saazish :ninja:

A few months ago, you self appointed yourself as Mufti ul Twitter, handing out fatwas left and right, anyone who didn’t worship the dictator as Pakistan’s divine supreme leader was instantly labeled “Yahoodi saazish.”

And now, this?

Mufti Sahib, please pick one character arc and commit to it. You’re not Johnny Sins, switching professions every other scene.
 
Has Imran Khan not attacked the entire army?

Imran Khan was also behind the violence and terrorism of 9th May, so there’s no moral difference between imran khan and this lady .

you send lanaat on Imran Khan for that, and by the same standard I’ll send lanaat on this lady because both have attacked the army.

Same actions, same judgment.

Deal?

No. My Army,my country. IK

What a coward you are like your leader. You cant even condemn her accusations. Do you believe she was right? If so, then why has she betrayed PK and played into the Ind hands by supporting their narrative? And if she is wrong, why is she CM?

Stop being a coward and explain.
 
5th largest country having a democratic elected leader leading them is not a minor issue for the western powers.
Pakistan's had a democratic elected government for maybe 10% of it's history and that too if you squint and turn your head sideways. A military dictatorship is the default state not democracy.

To be fair, the series of Pakistani military dictators have been largely sensible and sane (from a Western perspective), maintained stability and done what they were told. No Gadhafis or Idi Amins. No mass genocides (except briefly in Bangladesh). No fomenting terrorism except in third world s***oles (again from a Western perspective) like India and Afghanistan.

You can see why the West wouldn't be particularly bothered that Imran Khan was ousted and imprisoned. I'm sure they'd have dealt with him fine if he was head of state but they're perfectly used to dealing with the military or their facade.
 
A few months ago, you self appointed yourself as Mufti ul Twitter, handing out fatwas left and right, anyone who didn’t worship the dictator as Pakistan’s divine supreme leader was instantly labeled “Yahoodi saazish.”

And now, this?

Mufti Sahib, please pick one character arc and commit to it. You’re not Johnny Sins, switching professions every other scene.

I’m genuinely impressed by how closely you follow my posts. That kind of attention takes real dedication. I appreciate loyal fans who never miss a post, commitment like that definitely deserves a gold star ⭐
 
Pakistan's had a democratic elected government for maybe 10% of it's history and that too if you squint and turn your head sideways. A military dictatorship is the default state not democracy.

To be fair, the series of Pakistani military dictators have been largely sensible and sane (from a Western perspective), maintained stability and done what they were told. No Gadhafis or Idi Amins. No mass genocides (except briefly in Bangladesh). No fomenting terrorism except in third world s***oles (again from a Western perspective) like India and Afghanistan.

You can see why the West wouldn't be particularly bothered that Imran Khan was ousted and imprisoned. I'm sure they'd have dealt with him fine if he was head of state but they're perfectly used to dealing with the military or their facade.

They are not bothered because the job is done. Now just need to help with domestic narrative.
 
I’m genuinely impressed by how closely you follow my posts. That kind of attention takes real dedication. I appreciate loyal fans who never miss a post, commitment like that definitely deserves a gold star ⭐

You're the ‘loudest’ in every thread, difficult to miss it.
 
They are not bothered because the job is done. Now just need to help with domestic narrative.
It's not just the West to be fair. Even countries like China and Russia much prefer dealing with military dictatorships. Democracy is messy and you never know who you might have to build a fresh relationship with after the next election and how that dude might change policies for some populist promise.
 
It's not just the West to be fair. Even countries like China and Russia much prefer dealing with military dictatorships. Democracy is messy and you never know who you might have to build a fresh relationship with after the next election and how that dude might change policies for some populist promise.

Of course, even the Arab countries are happy with PML-N back in power.
 
Of course, even the Arab countries are happy with PML-N back in power.
Then I'm not sure why you contested my post which called it a minor issue. There's a guy on here who thinks there's some massive international conspiracy led by Jeffrey Epstein to keep Imran in jail but the truth is most of the West don't particularly care one way or the other. If Imran was in power they'd work with him. If he's in jail and they have to deal with Munir, well they're pretty used to that too.

Musk and Twitter are definitely not going to bother suppressing Tweets on Imran.
 

Is that all you have. After all the accusations on the Mods. Is this the best you can do?
Stop running and be a man. Your leaders havd shown you a coward route with them running off.🤣🤣🤣
So once again. Tell me, why is this lady calling the Whole of the PK army being behind the terrorism in PK. Is she right? Come on stop being a coward.

PS
Open the 9th May thread to talk about that.

 
I doubt Elon Musk and Twitter are bothering about something as minor as Imran Khan. I remember reading a long article about the Chinese supplying Pakistan with the hardware and software they use for the great firewall.

In China you literally cannot use Xi's name on the internet except to praise.

I suspect something similar is being implemented in Pakistan. Negative posts regarding the regime or positive posts on Imran will get automatically blocked.
So the minor and caged Imran Khan is the one the western world fears too?
 
your just a typical delusional Pakistani.

Imran khan is irrelevant to everyone outside the PTI camp and to the rest of the world. why would anyone go out of their way to block or promote him?


yes I can see PTI camp and his ex wife are sour because Elon musk has not given PTI the platform they are expecting

Imran is irrelevant to the world and Pakistan its better you and the rest of your gang understand this.

its just you usual conspiracy theory and 1+1=5, remember you guys said Pakistan were going to provide USA bases during Israel - Iran conflict what happened to that? your just bunch of liars.

So why do you feel the need to address Imran Khan in more or less every post you make on Time Pass? I know for a fact that you post about him a lot more than I do. Why would you bother if he was irrelevant?
 
It's not just the West to be fair. Even countries like China and Russia much prefer dealing with military dictatorships. Democracy is messy and you never know who you might have to build a fresh relationship with after the next election and how that dude might change policies for some populist promise.

But none of the western countries ( or even you re India ) want dictatorship for themselves. I wonder why that is?
 
Mufti Sahib, please pick one character arc and commit to it. You’re not Johnny Sins, switching professions every other scene.

Every other scene ? I had forgotten that PP has a lot of Johnny Sins fans.
 
Is that all you have. After all the accusations on the Mods. Is this the best you can do?
Stop running and be a man. Your leaders havd shown you a coward route with them running off.🤣🤣🤣
So once again. Tell me, why is this lady calling the Whole of the PK army being behind the terrorism in PK. Is she right? Come on stop being a coward.

PS
Open the 9th May thread to talk about that.

@Bewal Express your getting boring now with the same repeated lines for the past 6 months, you getting irked isn't even satisfying anymore

i'll chat to @Cpt. Rishwat and @KingKhanWC :love:
 
So why do you feel the need to address Imran Khan in more or less every post you make on Time Pass? I know for a fact that you post about him a lot more than I do. Why would you bother if he was irrelevant?

to be honest ive even stopped posting in the cricket section since ive been bashing Imran khan, and your right my every post is about Imran khan.

PTI fans are better entertainment than the Rizwan and Babar fan boys.

but to the world Imran khan is still irrelevant, why do you expect people from other countries to go out of their way for Imran khan?
 
@Bewal Express your getting boring now with the same repeated lines for the past 6 months, you getting irked isn't even satisfying anymore

i'll chat to @Cpt. Rishwat and @KingKhanWC :love:
Running like your cowardly leaders. What did we expect from a pathetic troll with nothing to add. I told you I will make mince meat out of you and I have made you look stupid and childish. Aaap ki Kasam🤣🤣🥰
 
to be honest ive even stopped posting in the cricket section since ive been bashing Imran khan, and your right my every post is about Imran khan.

PTI fans are better entertainment than the Rizwan and Babar fan boys.

but to the world Imran khan is still irrelevant, why do you expect people from other countries to go out of their way for Imran khan?
So you are trolling and when hit back, you get all precious and complain to the Mods how unfair they are because they wont allow you troll.. What a pathetic loser
 
Then I'm not sure why you contested my post which called it a minor issue. There's a guy on here who thinks there's some massive international conspiracy led by Jeffrey Epstein to keep Imran in jail but the truth is most of the West don't particularly care one way or the other. If Imran was in power they'd work with him. If he's in jail and they have to deal with Munir, well they're pretty used to that too.

Musk and Twitter are definitely not going to bother suppressing Tweets on Imran.

Simple answer is, they do. Always have and always will.
 
Then I'm not sure why you contested my post which called it a minor issue. There's a guy on here who thinks there's some massive international conspiracy led by Jeffrey Epstein to keep Imran in jail but the truth is most of the West don't particularly care one way or the other. If Imran was in power they'd work with him. If he's in jail and they have to deal with Munir, well they're pretty used to that too.

Musk and Twitter are definitely not going to bother suppressing Tweets on Imran.
Why hasnt any of the Western Govts even spoken up considering they are the " guardians" of democracy. How would an Jewish American Israeli even know about IK being an international cricketer? What did IK do besides being a peacemnik, that made Epstein call him more dangerous than anyone else in the World. Was it because they knew IK became a genuine Muslim. And you think Epstein wasn't part of the greater Zionist agenda🤣🤣
 
This is such an eye sore thread , ruining all the perfect Indian threads on the TP page. @finalfantasy7 so you can turn this to an Indian issue, spread your magic
 
But none of the western countries ( or even you re India ) want dictatorship for themselves. I wonder why that is?
Yeah I think most of the Western countries have come to the conclusion that the developing world is not mature enough for Democracy. Not saying they're absolutely right but the preponderance of evidence does seem to point that way with 90% of the developing world under some form of authoritarian government.

India, Indonesia and maybe Mexico have been the weird exceptions to the rule.

I personally don't want Dictatorship for India since it would risk the various pressure release safety valves that hold the country together but I recognise the practicality in Pakistan. Given how broken down the institutions are, it would take decades for struggle, pain and chaos for Democracy to establish itself. The country would have to swim through a river of blood. Is it truly worth it?
 
This is such an eye sore thread , ruining all the perfect Indian threads on the TP page. @finalfantasy7 so you can turn this to an Indian issue, spread your magic
I see @Bhaijaan is feeling some sympathy for the lone herculean task @finalfantasy7 and his feed are carrying out in explaining all of India's deficiencies in excruciating details and has resolved to help him in this noble task.

You have to feel the most joy for @sweep_shot though. He'd been reduced to documenting his daily diet and humping the legs of the Pakistani posters but has now found a true soulmate. It's almost a Romcom!
 
Is it fair to say Imran Khan was brought into power in 2018 by the Army ?

2018: Imran Khan was in power and suddenly very pro-army, while Nawaz Sharif was anti-army.

2024: PML-N is in power, Imran Khan is now openly anti-army, and Nawaz Sharif has magically become pro-army.

You don’t need to be a genius to work this out, and you can use the videos I posted as your reference.

Now try explaining this basic reality to your PTI mates who still believe that “80% of the public voted for Imran Khan” :ROFLMAO:
 
Simple answer is, they do. Always have and always will.
Sure if that's what helps you sleep well.

From what I read, the world and world media pretty much sees it as par for the course. Over the last 50+ years, almost every Pakistani politician especially if they reach President or Prime Minister level have spent time exiled, imprisoned or have been assassinated. It's like a rite of passage.

The Western world probably expects he'll be out in a couple of years sitting in the lap of the generals and imprisoning his opponents. It's how most developing country politics work - Bangladesh, Thailand, Sri Lanka etc. It's not worth getting too bothered and working yourself up over which ex-prime minister is currently in jail and which in favour.
 
Now try explaining this basic reality to your PTI mates who still believe that “80% of the public voted for Imran Khan” :ROFLMAO:

What's his actual popularity ? In terms of percentage of electorate, where would you put it at .. a rough guess ?
 
What's his actual popularity ? In terms of percentage of electorate, where would you put it at .. a rough guess ?

I only go by official data. Based on that, roughly 30% of the population voted for Imran Khan. That is still higher than PML-N at around 24% and PPP at about 13%, with the rest of the vote split among smaller parties.

PML-N, PPP, MQM-P, PML-Q, IPP, and the Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) six parties in total came together to form a coalition government, which collectively represents a clear and substantial majority of the Pakistan's population.

Despite this, PTI supporters continue to argue that they should have won the election outright and that a coalition government should not have been allowed even though coalition governments are a normal, legal, and democratic outcome when no single party secures a majority.
 
What's his actual popularity ? In terms of percentage of electorate, where would you put it at .. a rough guess ?
They dont have the balls to find out. They locked him up, banned his party and locked up the Workers and he won a 180 seats. These criminals are holding PK hostage for the Epstein Zionist money.
 
I only go by official data. Based on that, roughly 30% of the population voted for Imran Khan. That is still higher than PML-N at around 24% and PPP at about 13%, with the rest of the vote split among smaller parties.

PML-N, PPP, MQM-P, PML-Q, IPP, and the Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) six parties in total came together to form a coalition government, which collectively represents a clear and substantial majority of the Pakistan's population.

Despite this, PTI supporters continue to argue that they should have won the election outright and that a coalition government should not have been allowed even though coalition governments are a normal, legal, and democratic outcome when no single party secures a majority.
Not argue you gorm, the PTI won a 180 seats. Infact the coalition partner of the Nooras and the Generals claim that Nooras won only 7 seats. Today they have a 170.
 
They dont have the balls to find out. They locked him up, banned his party and locked up the Workers and he won a 180 seats. These criminals are holding PK hostage for the Epstein Zionist money.

But if it really was 80%, there would have been enough of an uproar to free Imran Khan by now, don't you think?
 
But if it really was 80%, there would have been enough of an uproar to free Imran Khan by now, don't you think?

I've been asking the same question but he has been running away from it and just starts giving me gibberish.

imagine modi getting arrested would their not be a massive uproar in the country people leaving houses and over powering the army?

its happened recently in Nepal and Bangladesh.
 
Imran Khan is in a Pakistan ‘death cell’ and the cricketing world is silent

F
or a man who was still his country’s prime minister four years ago, life today in Pakistan could hardly be more desolate for Imran Khan. Languishing in Rawalpindi’s Adiala prison, the 73-year-old cricket icon has, according to information shared with the United Nations, been spending 22 hours a day in solitary confinement, with his cell under constant surveillance. Even minimal family visits are understood to be denied, with his country’s military apparently hell-bent on snuffing out his last vestige of resistance. “It’s psychological torture that they’re employing to try to break him,” says his son, Kasim. “But he’s very, very tough to break.”

Kasim and Sulaiman, Khan’s two boys with his first wife Jemima Goldsmith, are at their wits’ end in pursuing a solution to a nightmare that has been deepening over 2½ years. This week marks the nadir, with an inflammatory social media post dictated by Khan about Asim Munir, the army’s chief of staff – a man whom he accused of “moral degradation” – offering a pretext to strip him of all rights and dignity. Worse, his legal jeopardy is acute, with his 14-year sentence for corruption, based on what he claims is a politically motivated thirst for vengeance, complicated by the constant addition of fresh charges. The family fears that there is no way out.

There are over 200 cases,” Kasim explains. “Each time one case is overturned, two or three are put on him. It’s just a way to delay any resolution.” The prison conditions, Sulaiman indicates, are almost beyond endurance. “He’s in a very small cell, which has been described as a ‘death cell’, because this is where they’ve held people who are on death row. Sometimes the electricity is cut off. Sometimes he won’t be allowed reading materials.”

“The water that he showers in is not just dirty, but discoloured,” Kasim says. “A dozen prisoners in that jail have died of hepatitis, and all of them were supporters of PTI, his political party.” The prison’s superintendent insists that anybody carrying an infectious disease is isolated from other inmates. But a report by Alice Jill Edwards, the UN’s special rapporteur, paints the bleakest picture, with Khan’s cell described as small, poorly ventilated, lacking in natural light, with extreme temperatures and insect infestations leading to nausea and weight loss.

How ever did we reach this point? We are talking, after all, about an emblematic figure in Pakistan’s history, one of the most sophisticated all-rounders that cricket has produced and the architect of his nation’s solitary 50-over World Cup triumph in 1992. In that tournament, he famously exhorted his players to “fight like cornered tigers”, even wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the animal to emphasise his defiance.

His cultured image as a player was matched by his flamboyance beyond the boundary, with his single status and fondness for London’s Tramp nightclub making him a fixture of Nineties gossip columns. Johnny Gold, the club’s owner, likened his effect on women to that of George Best. “No man,” said the model Marie Helvin, “was as devastating as Imran.”

Jemima, the then 21-year-old heiress whom he married in 1995, was devoted to him. For all the intense scrutiny on the couple’s cultural differences and 22-year age gap, she said after the marriage: “Without in any way wishing to disparage the culture of the Western world, into which I was born, I am more than willing to forgo the transient pleasures derived from alcohol and nightclubs.” Despite the sadness of their divorce in 2004, her concern for his condition, and for the agony his incarceration has inflicted on their two sons, remains acute. Just this weekend, she has written to Elon Musk to urge him to stop suppressing posts on X about Khan, alleging the company was guilty of “secret throttling”.

She’s definitely concerned for us,” says Kasim, the younger brother at 26. “She knows how important he is to us. He’s not an estranged father at all. We grew up with him our entire lives, throughout our childhood. He would come to stay with us in Richmond, every single major holiday and some half-terms. We were constantly with him. It’s very difficult for her to watch her sons going through this.”

Both he and Sulaiman, three years Kasim’s senior, are hopeful that speaking to The Telegraph will help sharpen the public consciousness of Khan’s plight. At times, their lobbying on his behalf can feel futile. With cricket seldom in such an international spotlight as midway through an Ashes series, what better time could there be to highlight the desperate struggle of one of the sport’s enduring idols against the oppressions of the Pakistani state? And yet you look in vain for an official statement anywhere, even from England or Australia – never mind the Indian-dominated International Cricket Council, in whose hall of fame Khan sits.

Full read: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2025/12/14/imran-khan-pakistan-death-cell-world-silent/

 
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But if it really was 80%, there would have been enough of an uproar to free Imran Khan by now, don't you think?
They kill people. People have families. They fought them at the battle box and won. Isnt that how that works in civilised societies.
 
Sure if that's what helps you sleep well.

From what I read, the world and world media pretty much sees it as par for the course. Over the last 50+ years, almost every Pakistani politician especially if they reach President or Prime Minister level have spent time exiled, imprisoned or have been assassinated. It's like a rite of passage.

The Western world probably expects he'll be out in a couple of years sitting in the lap of the generals and imprisoning his opponents. It's how most developing country politics work - Bangladesh, Thailand, Sri Lanka etc. It's not worth getting too bothered and working yourself up over which ex-prime minister is currently in jail and which in favour.


Thanks for the history lesson, but repeating it doesn’t change the facts. IK is not opting for a deal, and any democratic transition in Pakistan has historically had to pass through the current establishment. Anyone who actually understands that history would grasp this reality.

Democracy matters to those who genuinely believe in it. Just because it hasn’t worked in Pakistan so far doesn’t mean people should stop hoping or striving for it.

As I said, only a fool would believe that the world’s loudest media has no role in supporting Western powers when it comes to installing dictators or removing elected prime ministers. But you’re not a fool, more like pretending to be one. At least, I hope so.
 
But if it really was 80%, there would have been enough of an uproar to free Imran Khan by now, don't you think?
That assumption completely misses how power and fear actually work in Pakistan. Mass uprisings don’t happen here unless people are pushed all the way against the wall, and even when we’ve come close, it’s never really happened and likely never will. The fear of retaliation, of your mother, wife, or daughter being abducted, harassed, or targeted, is far stronger than abstract ideas like democracy for most families. When it comes down to it, survival comes first.

History shows this clearly, even a slight improvement in the economy is usually enough to calm things down, regardless of whether the system is democratic or not. So silence doesn’t mean people don’t support him. It doesn’t mean apathy. It means fear.

And even if you don’t buy the 80% number and say it was 'only' a majority, the point still stands. A majority mandate existed. Crushing that mandate through fear doesn’t erase it. It just exposes a system that runs on intimidation instead of consent.
 
Thanks for the history lesson, but repeating it doesn’t change the facts. IK is not opting for a deal, and any democratic transition in Pakistan has historically had to pass through the current establishment. Anyone who actually understands that history would grasp this reality.

Democracy matters to those who genuinely believe in it. Just because it hasn’t worked in Pakistan so far doesn’t mean people should stop hoping or striving for it.

As I said, only a fool would believe that the world’s loudest media has no role in supporting Western powers when it comes to installing dictators or removing elected prime ministers. But you’re not a fool, more like pretending to be one. At least, I hope so.
I'm pretty sure I'll never convince you so you do you dude. I'll just say that in all my media consumption (and I consume way too much...I know I pay stupid money in subscriptions), I've yet to see a single article in mainstream Western media that supports the generals over Imran who they all agree is probably the rightful democratically elected leader of Pakistan. There's no big conspiracy to hide this. It's just that they don't care enough to make a big deal out of it.

As far as Democracy in Pakistan is concerned, I'm theoretically in total support of it and Imran Khan. It's when it comes to practicality that I'm skeptical as I said in a previous response to @Cpt. Rishwat
 
I'm pretty sure I'll never convince you so you do you dude. I'll just say that in all my media consumption (and I consume way too much...I know I pay stupid money in subscriptions), I've yet to see a single article in mainstream Western media that supports the generals over Imran who they all agree is probably the rightful democratically elected leader of Pakistan. There's no big conspiracy to hide this. It's just that they don't care enough to make a big deal out of it.

As far as Democracy in Pakistan is concerned, I'm theoretically in total support of it and Imran Khan. It's when it comes to practicality that I'm skeptical as I said in a previous response to @Cpt. Rishwat

Again, they do not have to, no news media article outright publish an article in support of dictators.

They just have to convince that IK is not the best option.
 
I'm pretty sure I'll never convince you so you do you dude. I'll just say that in all my media consumption (and I consume way too much...I know I pay stupid money in subscriptions), I've yet to see a single article in mainstream Western media that supports the generals over Imran who they all agree is probably the rightful democratically elected leader of Pakistan. There's no big conspiracy to hide this. It's just that they don't care enough to make a big deal out of it.

As far as Democracy in Pakistan is concerned, I'm theoretically in total support of it and Imran Khan. It's when it comes to practicality that I'm skeptical as I said in a previous response to @Cpt. Rishwat
You dont have to openly support the Generals to defacto support them. Where are the sanctions against the murderers and kidnappers? Its a fixed game
 
Sad to note that Imran Khan is still in jail. He used to be a fearsome cricketer in his time - alongside Richard Hadlee, Ian Botham and Kapil Dev in that era.

But I guess the lure and greed for money spares no one, even the rich.
 
Sad to note that Imran Khan is still in jail. He used to be a fearsome cricketer in his time - alongside Richard Hadlee, Ian Botham and Kapil Dev in that era.

But I guess the lure and greed for money spares no one, even the rich.

He lost the plot when:


1. He criticised Pakistan’s role in the war on terror and showed discomfort with the elimination of terrorists operating inside Pakistan.

2. He promoted a dangerous “good terrorist vs bad terrorist” narrative, blurring clear lines on extremism.

3.He maintained a soft and accommodating stance toward the Pakistani Taliban.

4.He pursued friendly engagement with the Afghan Taliban.

5.He referred to Osama bin Laden as a shaheed.

Not only that, he went on to instil the same mindset in his followers the reason you see his followers showing empathy for the Naveed akram and his dad and trying to call a false flag.
 
He should be out of jail. In Pakistan, Army makes the rule. Some one like IK could have changed it but he is in jail with very little crowd causing any trouble for Army. I guess status quo will continue.

US state department will be surely involved in one way or another, but I don't think Twitter/Musk will be bothered with IK or Army.
 
It's kinda strange how the world cricket community has gone completely silent on Imran Khan. None of his former team colleagues or opposition player friends have spoken out in support of him. He spent a lot of time in English and Australia domestic cricket as well so he would be known in those circles.
 
He lost the plot when:


1. He criticised Pakistan’s role in the war on terror and showed discomfort with the elimination of terrorists operating inside Pakistan.

2. He promoted a dangerous “good terrorist vs bad terrorist” narrative, blurring clear lines on extremism.

3.He maintained a soft and accommodating stance toward the Pakistani Taliban.

4.He pursued friendly engagement with the Afghan Taliban.

5.He referred to Osama bin Laden as a shaheed.

Not only that, he went on to instil the same mindset in his followers the reason you see his followers showing empathy for the Naveed akram and his dad and trying to call a false flag.

Ah I didn't follow his politics but he was a mighty fine player in his time. Pakistan's only cricketing achievement of the 1992 World Cup when they beat us in the semi-final came about under his captaincy.

Sad to hear of his extremist tendencies and corruption. The law catches up with everyone!
 
I'm active on PP but do not post much in here as I like to read through what posters have to say. The quality of posts have certainly been diluted down due to certain posters being way more vocal than others and jump in with allegations and trope with very little substance. Sometimes when you are on the right side of justice all you need is a calm voice for everything to fall in place, anything loud with no substance is just a distraction (this is the main purpose).

I can see some folks are genuinely interested in Khan's popularity, his wrongdoings and his future.

Let's start off with his legal battles and I would highly recommend posters to look through a thread made by @LordJames on this topic (link below).

My quick summary on his legal cases are as follows:
1. Al Qadir Trust - Status convicted by court. The case in here is that UK financial regulations body identified certain properties being bought off by Pakistani individual (Malik Riaz) with illegitimate source. As a result UK government seized the properties and wanted to settle with Malk Riaz by sending the money back to Pakistan. At that point in time Malik Riaz already had a big penalty imposed on him by SC of Pakistan. Therefore the option Pakistan state had at time was to fight a legal battle with UK that money should not be allowed to go in Riaz's personal account and should indeed be going into Pakistan Treasury account however for Pakistan State to succeed in that case they would have to bring evidence linking the amount to illegitimate activities done by Riaz from inside Pakistan which could have become too difficult to prove given the level of corruption within Pakistan, red tape within Pakistan and Riaz is a wealthy individual he could have easily demonstrated that this amount came from one of his legitimate business. Therefore at that point IK and State decided that they would not pursue the legal option but would settle with Riaz whereby the money to be received from UK government would be used to settle Riaz's penalty with SC (money will be sitting in SC governed account) on which Riaz agreed and so did UK Government. The money till date sits within SC governed account in Pakistan. The current regime masked this saga of events as a personal gain for IK and using his powers as PM of the country to deprive the State treasury of this money and linked that IK used favours from Riaz in return for going for settlement. The favours being alleged in here is that IK constructed Namal university on land secured from Riaz. The only blip in regime's argument here is that land for Namal university was secured 1.5 years or so back on market rates prevailing at that time when there was no such saga and they fail to bring any sort of evidence highlighting IK's personal gain from any of it as even the Namal university is not Khan's property as he is merely a Trustee and not a beneficiary of any kind. In my personal view this is a politically motivated case.

2. Toshakhana - IK has been accused of devaluing state gifts received before buying them and selling them to make profits for a personal gain. The irony is that the person that devalued the gifts is not charged with anything, the profit made from selling gifts had taxes paid upon them and worse of all the experts raked in by State to prove the undervaluation of the gifts had massive red flags on their background. Update on case is that sentence is suspended by high courts.

3. Iddat case - No comments on the level of filth and degradation associated with this case. Sentence suspended by high courts.

4. 9 May case - A current case is being built up against Khan for orchestrating an uprising against high ranked military heads. A summary of events is that on 9 May, Khan got arrested with visuals showing him being dragged out of high court into a rangers vehicle. This sparked outrage in public that started demonstrations across the country particularly outside military installations. Scenes got ugly where a high ranking military official's house was ransacked, GHQ premises attacked, martyrs memorables destroyed, etc. Let me pause here and bring about a very very important point that throughout these demonstrations across the country no lives were lost at the hands of demonstrators. Yes the scenes were ugly and should have not reached that state but what we saw after that was epitome of evil State crackdown. We saw overnight thousands of people arrested, homes were destroyed (similar to residence of a core commander 100s of homes of public were destroyed the difference is that core commander is a wealthy enough individual who can start again but these folks have their lifetime savings destroyed endangering their financial future), women were manhandled in a brutal way and much more enough has been said on it already.
The irony here is that the cases got dragged onto military courts which raised a lot of eyeballs internationally as an executioner is now being given the power of judge and jury. The results were what we expected when such powers are given, we saw 100s of individuals dragged in inhumane conditions being handed a 10 year sentence.
The State is desperately trying to build an argument that everything was orchestrated by IK whereby they can place a treason charge on IK and try to push the case to capital punishment. The entire thing is a joke and its such a bad joke that we are currently living in it. State's witness is that 2 highly trained police individuals were hiding under table or behind curtains listening to Khan secretly giving details plan to his close aides to ensure military installations are attacked at time of his arrest. Rest in peace logic.

There are other cases as well in which Khan is being dragged which are literally nothing but a joke that keeps on giving. There was a case where at a point in Islamabad there were some shots fired, a PMLN politician happened to be at the scene. So this idiot files a case next day that in Islamabad that there was an attempt to kill him in Islamabad and the mastermind behind that was IK who was sitting in Lahore at that point in time. Such is the idiocy and jokes we have to live through.

Imran Khan popularity
To simply understand where Khan stands with respect to popularity simply look at 2024 election numbers issued by independent sources. We had paramount rigging and quite literally blatant rigging done by ECP in 2024 elections whereby officially Khan still holds 30% of the electorate even after rigging. I don't want to comment on Form 45 as FAFEN has not issued any analysis simply on overall standing based on Form 45 so would refrain.
However qualitatively if you need to understand where Khan stands popularity wise then you need to gauge the current regime's panic. So on one hand we have Khan who is literally behind bars for over 2 years with no image, sound or visuals made available to public since arrest, his hearings are all conducted inside jail premises so there is no glance from outside world on his appearance, even in other countries when defendants pictures are not released from courtrooms there is usually a sketch that comes out from the courtroom depicting events but in case of Khan even sketches are not permissible, as far as his party is concerned its totally dismantled, his wife is imprisoned and ridiculed, his sisters are assaulted and arrested from time to time, his nephews are arrested and are part of regime's crackdown, his sons were threatened to be assassinated should they visit Pakistan, his house has been raided and largely destroyed, he survived an assassination attempt and is currently in solitary confinement. On other hand we have the current regime that literally have all the power they can possibly imagine with no accountability. The only difference is the current regime wants the goodwill of public whilst Khan has monopoly on public goodwill. This ego of State is not satisfied till public is with Khan's narrative so even with being at helm of all the possible powers they are still raging on a daily basis because Khan can somehow manage a tweet. This is a low point of the regime that with all being done to Khan they are still raging as he can somehow tweet.
If a tweet gets this much rage then imagine if Khan's visuals are out or imagine if Khan manages to make a speech or address worse of all if Khan is actually released. When you are in the wrong there is always a shadow that chases you, you think you can outrun this shadow but you can't outrun you wrongdoings.

Imran Khan's future
Small note on this point that its Pakistan's future as a democracy rather than just Khan's future. Hope sense prevails.
 
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