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Winds of change - more like hurricanes of change in progress

Misbah and Waqar are the first casualties - will there be more?

Will Wasim Khan be the next to go?

Did he have a say in the T20 WC Squad selection?

Lots of questions - but for sure some interesting times ahead for Pakistan cricket.
 
I don’t get how it’s a Ramiz Raja effect? They weren’t sacked, they resigned. Misbah clearly wasn’t happy with Mohammad Wasim’s selections so he resigned and Waqar went with him.
 
Rumors circulating that Ramiz Raja gave 3 selection policies to Wasim to follow
1. Select Youngsters
2. Select Young Bowlers with 140+ pace
3. Select Batsman with 150+ SR even if their average is 10


and news is circulating Sharjeel Name was originally in the list of 15 and Fakhar was as in Reserve so 3 openers and a backup Ramiz took it out also Ramiz put name of ASif Ali in the squad.
 
Plenty more changes to come.

It's going to be a roller-coaster ride.
 
b.lesner said:
and news is circulating Sharjeel Name was originally in the list of 15 and Fakhar was as in Reserve so 3 openers and a backup Ramiz took it out also Ramiz put name of ASif Ali in the squad.
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Ramiz has been commentating too much in domestic cricket and T20 leagues I guess otherwise I am not sure where Ramiz has got his expectations for the chosen one from.
 
Pakistan Cricket and the art of Chaos

Lot of things have happened in last 12 hours. Chaotic changes,
unexpected team selection/ coaches resigning/ completely new management.

But, One thing Pakistan cricket thrives on is chaos.
No one will give them a chance, and that is where they will be dangerous.

Will we see another cornered tigers moment in this T20 WC from Pakistan ?
 
This is nothing, the storm has yet to come.

If Mohammad Wasim gets sacked, we could see Amir return for the WT20.
 
Good point. I'm not saying Pakistan will lift the trophy or anything but there has been a precedent for this type of stuff in the past.

6 days before the team departed for the 1999 World Cup in England Javed Miandad resigned as coach.

Back in 2009, Abdul Qadir stepped down as chief-selector during the T20 World Cup after Pakistan lost to England.

And Pakistan did fairly well in both tournaments.

There is a little bit of hope yet. And that hope is predicated on Azam Khan, Asif Ali and Khushdil Shah being badly exposed in the upcoming T20s, which would allow Pakistan to replace them (no questions asked) provided it is before October 10.
 
I Think he will be PCB chairman cum Chief selector of Pakistan team. :raja
 
Ramiz had a hardline on spot fixers etc. I am not surprised Sharjeel was excluded.
 
b.lesner said:
Rumors circulating that Ramiz Raja gave 3 selection policies to Wasim to follow
1. Select Youngsters
2. Select Young Bowlers with 140+ pace
3. Select Batsman with 150+ SR even if their average is 10


and news is circulating Sharjeel Name was originally in the list of 15 and Fakhar was as in Reserve so 3 openers and a backup Ramiz took it out also Ramiz put name of ASif Ali in the squad.
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This was exactly my fear that this low educated individual would poke his nose in matters which shouldn't concern him. I get it your enthusiastic but you have no business in selection matters, leave people to do their jobs. Wasim was doing a fine job.
 
b.lesner said:
Rumors circulating that Ramiz Raja gave 3 selection policies to Wasim to follow
1. Select Youngsters
2. Select Young Bowlers with 140+ pace
3. Select Batsman with 150+ SR even if their average is 10


and news is circulating Sharjeel Name was originally in the list of 15 and Fakhar was as in Reserve so 3 openers and a backup Ramiz took it out also Ramiz put name of ASif Ali in the squad.
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Seems believable to be honest considering both Sharjeel & Fakhar were in the last T20 squad while the last time Asif Ali played was back in Zimbabwe and looked to be out of favour.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Can you change the team after announcement ?
That will be queit a coup ? Though Rameez does not like the fixer Amir.
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Yup, I believe 10th October is the final date. So I’m absolutely confident that through media pressure, Asif Ali will be dropped for Haider or Fakhar, Khushdil will be dropped for Sharjeel and Wahab will replace Hasnain.

Also, if they sack Mo Wasim in the next 10 days then I’d expect Amir to comeback.

If Rameez doesn’t like fixers then he would’ve prevented Mo Nawaz from being selected. (Wasn’t fixing but failed to report an approach)
 
Mohammad Wasim today was asked:

"Given that there are changes happening, do you feel that this will be the last team you will announce?"

His reaction:

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Mohd Wasim turned out to be a shameless compromiser in the end.
 
Savak said:
Mohd Wasim turned out to be a shameless compromiser in the end.
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If Chairman is telling you to select Asif Ali and Drop Sharjeel what would you do and Haider Ali name was also taken out he was 19th player you must have heard 19 member squad to be announced with 4 reserves so you can understand.
 
Let the reign begin , Raja sab has his fair share of haters here but I will give him the benefit of doubt for now , ps Misbah & Waqar disgracefully resigned shortly before the t20 WC!! Bloody choakers
 
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RR needs to remember that he needs to set the policy and let people do their jobs. There is no point to have a CEO, Chief Selector etc if he will do all the roles. The job of a good chairman is set good policies and then find people to implement them. It worries that someone still thinks AA is even a franchise player never mind an international.
 
b.lesner said:
If Chairman is telling you to select Asif Ali and Drop Sharjeel what would you do and Haider Ali name was also taken out he was 19th player you must have heard 19 member squad to be announced with 4 reserves so you can understand.
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You resign if you are not allowed to do your job independently. Mohd Wasim only been in charge for 6 months vs Misbah Waqar who have been around for 2 years, him resigning would have been viewed more sympathetically vs Misbah Waqar who have shamelessly leached the PCB for the last 2 years and are now running away
 
Misbah waqar knew the chaos coming ahead , before them younis bailed as well

They all bailed at the right time

I said it before this will all end In a disaster for Pakistan cricket .
 
mazkhan said:
Misbah waqar knew the chaos coming ahead , before them younis bailed as well

They all bailed at the right time

I said it before this will all end In a disaster for Pakistan cricket .
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They are the primary architects of this chaos.
 
Who is next to leave/be asked to walk away?

Chief Selector? NCA Coaches?
 
He's been in love with Asif Ali since PSL 3.
Expecting Yousaf to be fired soon.
 
b.lesner said:
Rumors circulating that Ramiz Raja gave 3 selection policies to Wasim to follow
1. Select Youngsters
2. Select Young Bowlers with 140+ pace
3. Select Batsman with 150+ SR even if their average is 10


and news is circulating Sharjeel Name was originally in the list of 15 and Fakhar was as in Reserve so 3 openers and a backup Ramiz took it out also Ramiz put name of ASif Ali in the squad.
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Well those 150+ sr players better hit the ground running now! Unlike Khushdil Shah who starts all of his innings looking for singles! Next thing you now, a momentum has been broken and this guy has scored 10 off 13 balls!
 
Need to give him a chance to implement these changes then await the results. He is not updating his youtube channel anymore.
 
It's quite obvious Ramiz gave strict instructions to Wasim to pick certain players and drop certain players.
 
dildilpak said:
Why? From what i have heard, the players in the last couple of series seemed to have enjoyed working with Yousuf.
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Youtube Mohammad Yousaf and Ramiz Raja. You'll get your answer and some laughing content.
 
He has made the right moves so far. Needs to persist with M Wasim and Wasim Khan. Should look to bring in a qualified foreign coach.
 
Rameez will lead PCB and pakistani cricket into a new all time low.
 
Ramiz should hire Shoaib Akhtar as a head coach or bowling coach if he is willing. He has the best brain in terms of judging match awareness. He should get on the board for the twenty20 world cup.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
I don’t get how it’s a Ramiz Raja effect? They weren’t sacked, they resigned. Misbah clearly wasn’t happy with Mohammad Wasim’s selections so he resigned and Waqar went with him.
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It is called the Honourable exit, resign or be fired. If it was only Misbah than one can say maybe it was personel decision but Waqar as well. looks like they were told.
 
Ramiz wants Babar to focus on his batting and for him to step down as captain. Sensible move?
 
Savak said:
Ramiz wants Babar to focus on his batting and for him to step down as captain. Sensible move?
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Maybe Rameez is a good thing. Cracking down on fixers, not supporting them. I'm not sure Babar really is the right man for captaincy tbh, I think Rizwan or even Imad would do a better job.

I don't think it was fair to select Misbah either despite I agreed with Mickey gone. A foreign coach with a record or even success in domestic is more deserved (which Razzaq has, and Saqlain definitely has). Misbah hadn't even coached before or earnt his chance. Encouraging players who are power hitters in our middle order when they are usually just bashed for throwing their wicket when going for big shots which the guys up top have the luxury of playing safer at a slower SR.

Maybe Ramiz is actually implementing the right things to shake Pakistani cricket up. I'm up for giving him a chance.
 
Rameez already looking like an incredible disaster.

There is not a shred of consistency in Pakistan cricket. Every few years, there are fresh faces with their own incredibly poor bias & agenda. No true long-term vision. Just on the fly non sense.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Lot of things have happened in last 12 hours. Chaotic changes,
unexpected team selection/ coaches resigning/ completely new management.

But, One thing Pakistan cricket thrives on is chaos.
No one will give them a chance, and that is where they will be dangerous.

Will we see another cornered tigers moment in this T20 WC from Pakistan ?
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Is this necessarily true? Let's look at some successes.

The 1992 world cup win, famous for a come back from Pakistan but they were the leading ODI side on the planets for 3-4 years before that. The Waqar injury was bad but they had a sensational team and doing poorly early on was unexpected, not winning the whole tournament.

Fast forward to the famous series draw in 2016 in England and the no.1 ranking...not a surprise considering the team had 2 streaks of 7 series unbeaten, including series against SA, Eng and Aus.

Even the success in 2015 and finishing 5th....and losing the 4th place on NRR came off the back of clever planning and being in England early for the ODI series, which was lost but provided the squad with an understanding of what the conditions would be.
 
Such dramatic changes suggest that Pakistan cricket is not in right hand again as usual.It is not the way to do. No top cricket board do like this. I thought Ramiz would do better.

Let's see if Ramiz can prove me wrong in future.

If Ramiz continues to influence team selection, oh no, another Papon (BCB president) has been born. He should decide what his jurisdiction is what his boundery is. Otherwise no professionalism , no improvement.
 
dildilpak said:
Ouch! Didnt know this
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MoYo and Rambo got big beef going back several years, as long as Rambo stays in charge of the PCB there's no way Yusuf will ever have a job with the Pakistan cricket team.
 
Nasty Naz said:
Rameez already looking like an incredible disaster.

There is not a shred of consistency in Pakistan cricket. Every few years, there are fresh faces with their own incredibly poor bias & agenda. No true long-term vision. Just on the fly non sense.
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True indeed. PCB has no professionalism as an organization. It's worse than a typical subcontinent political party even.

Big mouthing with verbal diarrhea with zero work, nepotism, undue and illegal interference sums up PCB. From president to coach from selectors to staffs nowhere competency and professionalism is seen.

The result-Pakistan is not a top cricket team any more.
 
shamaan said:
Ramiz needs to keep his nose our of selection.
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Tbf Pakistan cricket needed a revolutionary like Rameez to shake things up, let him rebuild from scratch and see where the team goes instead carrying on decades of mediocrity.
 
Mainul said:
Such dramatic changes suggest that Pakistan cricket is not in right hand again as usual.It is not the way to do. No top cricket board do like this. I thought Ramiz would do better.

Let's see if Ramiz can prove me wrong in future.

If Ramiz continues to influence team selection, oh no, another Papon (BCB president) has been born. He should decide what his jurisdiction is what his boundery is. Otherwise no professionalism , no improvement.
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I find the idea ridiculous that CEO can't influence selection?

Why would a CEO not influence things that determine his performance when the buck stops with him?

Would Steve Jobs not influence UX/CX of iphones because the Chief Engineer and Chief Designer are aligned? Would Elon Musk not have a say in Tesla's battery selection? Would Jacinda Ardern not have a say in Covid strategy because her Health minister has finalized everything?

Ramiz will hear recommendations and make calls - largely in line with recommendations. But he may make couple of changes after joint discussions. Perfectly the right way to run things.
 
Congratulations to Ramiz Bhai, the fan favorite commentator worldwide and for neutral people the actual and lone ambassador of Pakistan cricket since time immemorial.

This is a masterstroke by Imran Khan and if things fall in place it could usher in a new era of progress and professionalism.

Its never going to be a smooth ride as Pakistan cricket is full of snakes and snitches but i believe Ramiz bhai isn't going to be someone easily bullied. Mohammad Yousuf tried to do it once and he got a sucker punch right back at him.

As an Indian, there are more reasons to be positive about this appointment as Ramiz bhai has always been a great negotiator and friend of ours in Pakistan. Unlike a lot of his predecessors, i am sure he will not only try but will be successful at bringign PCB and BCCI closer. No one knows the functioning of BCCI in Pakistan more than Ramiz Raja probably.

Ramiz Raja is a realist. He knows exactly where Pakistan cricket stands. He also knows exactly where the rest of the cricketing world stands. All these years of working with various broadcasters and in all countries, he surely would have develiped exceptional people relations by now and he would look to leverage that for the benefit of Pakistan cricket.

A healthy and a realist Pakistan is what the world demands.

We wish Ramiz Bhai and all of Pakistani cricket fans the best.

We hope to see Pakistan enter 2023 cricket world cup in india as one of the serious contenders and we hope to host a lot of their fans and media persons. I hope Mohali's new stadium does get to host one of their matches as usual, hopefully the India-Pakistan big daddy blockbuster. I will give anythign to attend it.
 
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Corridor of Uncertainty said:
I find the idea ridiculous that CEO can't influence selection?

Why would a CEO not influence things that determine his performance when the buck stops with him?

Would Steve Jobs not influence UX/CX of iphones because the Chief Engineer and Chief Designer are aligned? Would Elon Musk not have a say in Tesla's battery selection? Would Jacinda Ardern not have a say in Covid strategy because her Health minister has finalized everything?

Ramiz will hear recommendations and make calls - largely in line with recommendations. But he may make couple of changes after joint discussions. Perfectly the right way to run things.
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Leaders who rely on advisors and their team are considered weak and gullible. Ramiz like all previous chairman's will be judged ultimately by the on field results therefore he has every right to steer the ship as per his vision
 
LAHORE: Newly-elected chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Ramiz Raja is most likely to create a post of director cricket to implement his cricketing plans, instead of relying on the officials appointed by previous chairman Ehsan Mani.

It is learnt that the director cricket will have the powers to deal with all domestic and international cricket affairs. Though director cricket operations international Zakir Khan and director National High Performance Centre Nadeem Khan will continue to work, major powers will be given to director cricket.

Moreover, PCB chief executive Wasim Khan may continue to complete his contract expiring in February next year. After his departure Ramiz will not appoint any new CEO, rather will prefer to also enjoy his powers.

But how Ramiz will manage to control Wasim’s powers — given to him by Mani — till February 2022 will be a test case for the former Test opener as approval of the Board of Governors is required for determining the powers of every key PCB official like chairman, CEO and others.

Meanwhile, good news is not coming for director commercial Babar Hameed, as the non-availability of decision review system (DRS) in the home series against New Zealand starting on Friday in Rawalpindi, is said to be the result of negligence committed on the part of his department.

Due to this mistake, the PCB and New Zealand Cricket had to change the status of the three-match ODI series — which was part of the ICC World Super League — into a bilateral contest. According to a report, PCB’s commercial department took a late decision on the DRS, ignoring the fact that difficulties could arise as the Indian Premier League and the India-England series will also be in progress during these days.

Currently, Babar is on leave. Ramiz in his first press conference as PCB chief on Monday in Lahore expressed his displeasure over this development, and while answering a question said he would personally study the case.

Published in Dawn, September 16th, 2021
 
Ramiz is doing too many things too quickly.

He also needs to speak less.

This wont end well.
 
Giannis said:
Whether you like Rambo or not you can't deny what he's doing to Pak cricket is of Napoleon-esque proportions.
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That’s a little strong Mr.Antetekounmpo. Many of the things said and already done have actually been done before. Almost never have they been effective. Never forget that he was once the CEO.
 
Mainul said:
Such dramatic changes suggest that Pakistan cricket is not in right hand again as usual.It is not the way to do. No top cricket board do like this. I thought Ramiz would do better.

Let's see if Ramiz can prove me wrong in future.

If Ramiz continues to influence team selection, oh no, another Papon (BCB president) has been born. He should decide what his jurisdiction is what his boundery is. Otherwise no professionalism , no improvement.
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sensible and non-bias fan's comments are always valuable, thank you
 
This is Rambo's era and he wanted this shake up to happen and he is doing so by himself being the PCB chairman. These changes will shake up things in Pakistan cricket. This ultra agressive approach will keep people at the PCB on their toes as they would not be knowing that when and who will get sacked. He knows the cricketing side of the things be it players and their performance, so he will go out of his domain and influence team selections. Also has anyone heard of a cricket chairman telling players to play agressively. Its the team management that decides what brand of cricket the team has to play and the chairman does the needful in that regard. But as Rambo being a former cricketer knows that he isnt from some corporate that he need not say such things. He has been a cricketer so he said.
 
I think how Rameez handles this situation will determine the fate of his tenure. It is easy to have an emotional response to this situation. We saw that in his tweet. He like most Pakistanis are rightfully enraged. But someone made an important point on another thread, the vast majority of A-List Teams and Players don't want to come to Pakistan unless huge sums of money are on offer. These same teams also don't want to host Pakistan at home for any substantial series. This leaves Pakistan in a dark ally.

Prior to the change in government next door, only one viable Asian Team was willing to play Pakistan, that was Sri Lanka. Outside of Asia, the only series we can get with any regularity is with Zimbabwe. Although I think it's important to play these countries, it is certainly not the best way to build Pakistan Cricket.

For example, we need to learn how to Build a Bilateral Cricket Schedule. This eludes us. We also need to learn how to build a domestic cricket schedule. This also eludes us. Finally, we need to get behind our Board at this time.
 
Judging by his response to his first crisis, Pakistan have appointed another clown.
 
Aman said:
Judging by his response to his first crisis, Pakistan have appointed another clown.
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Pak can't be apologetic for the blunder and clown-ish behavior shown by NZC. So his reaction is spot on and i really hope PCB will take this matter to ICC. This won't impact you guys but all of our 10 years effort to put the country out of the exile are almost back to square 1 so the reaction is totally justified and valid :)
 
MoJoJoJo said:
Pak can't be apologetic for the blunder and clown-ish behavior shown by NZC. So his reaction is spot on and i really hope PCB will take this matter to ICC. This won't impact you guys but all of our 10 years effort to put the country out of the exile are almost back to square 1 so the reaction is totally justified and valid :)
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His reaction is too emotional, he needs to be composed and show some class in this situation. Such a response is only going to lead to him losing respect in the eyes of other administrators of other cricket nation's governing bodies. His response reeks of something you'd see from a immature fan, not the head of a major governing body.
 
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FYI, NZC were following the advice of their government and security agencies. No idea how that's clownish behavior :facepalm:
 
Aman said:
His reaction is too emotional, he needs to be composed and show some class in this situation. Such a response is only going to lead to him losing respect in the eyes of other administrators of other cricket nation's governing bodies. His response reeks of something you'd see from a immature fan, not the head of a major governing body.
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Why so? The NZ government made a decision to leave without consulting with Pakistan. Frankly it's ludicrous. They then neglect to divulge the so called intelligence they've received. They receive state vsist level security with miles of checkpoints leading to the stadiums.
 
Aman said:
Judging by his response to his first crisis, Pakistan have appointed another clown.
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Really. I think it is necessary to reiterate that this is was a unilateral decision based upon foreign intelligence. Did the Kiwis not send a security team. Let's see what this threat is
 
Aman said:
His reaction is too emotional, he needs to be composed and show some class in this situation. Such a response is only going to lead to him losing respect in the eyes of other administrators of other cricket nation's governing bodies.
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What are you expecting in reaction though? NZC could've shown some class and handle this a bit maturely rather than suddenly reacting like there is gonna be some attack or something, on the top of that there isn't any concrete evidence to show off and you are running like that a nuclear bomb is in place or something. If you are being given the presidential level security and you still ain't convinced and have doubts so there is no point in coming. Backing off just minutes before the game is just giving the impression that players ain't even safe with the massive security arrangements in place. We have lost everything we've earned in the last 10 years or so.
 
Aman said:
FYI, NZC were following the advice of their government and security agencies. No idea how that's clownish behavior :facepalm:
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Yeah i really doubt the credibility of an agency which couldn't prevent that christchurch attack in which almost the whole bangladeshi team could've been killed.
 
Aman said:
Judging by his response to his first crisis, Pakistan have appointed another clown.
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What should have been your response if a team would have pulled out just before the toss?
 
PakEngFan said:
I agree ramiz is a clown but at the moment NZ have taken over that role. A fitting reply by him for once.
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NZC are clowns for NOT disregarding what the NZ government and security agencies on the ground advised them?

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
 
Titan24 said:
What should have been your response if a team would have pulled out just before the toss?
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Definitely to be more understanding and awaiting for the entire situation to be known before threatening them and losing respect and goodwill. That's for sure.
 
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