All The Prime Minister's Men - Al Jazeera investigation on Bangladeshi regime

[Giannis]

The sort of things you describe, if they are common in Bangladesh then it is very unfortunate. Maybe Hasina, who had her family killed by the Army, thinks she is fighting fire with fire, but she should not encourage such violence.

Could have been worse, all the things you describe could have been happening, and there could also have been no economic development as we see in countries dominated by the military.

You don't even know anything about economics. Bangladesh would have high GDP growth regardless of who was in power, it doesn't have many of the geopolitical issues that other countries in south asia or the middle east have.

 

[Napa]

You don't even know anything about economics. Bangladesh would have high GDP growth regardless of who was in power, it doesn't have many of the geopolitical issues that other countries in south asia or the middle east have.

Issues that other countries have such as Army's domination of the economy, having Maoists run the country, earning the distrust of the West due to supporting terrorist groups who kill Western soldiers in neighboring countries, not giving investors assurance that their investments will be protected etc. could also have happened in Bangladesh with the wrong leadership.

As for my knowledge of economics, as they say "I have forgotten more than you have learned"

Time for me to exit this thread.

 

[LongHorn]

The sort of things you describe, if they are common in Bangladesh then it is very unfortunate. Maybe Hasina, who had her family killed by the Army, thinks she is fighting fire with fire, but she should not encourage such violence.

Could have been worse, all the things you describe could have been happening, and there could also have been no economic development as we see in countries dominated by the military.

These things were there before, but increased a lot in Hasina's latest reign

Hasina ruled 1996-2001, you had bad stuff from the govt but nothing like now.
Similarly Khaleda Zias 2001-2006 reign had bad stuff as well from BNP, but far less than now

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

These things were there before, but increased a lot in Hasina's latest reign

Hasina ruled 1996-2001, you had bad stuff from the govt but nothing like now.
Similarly Khaleda Zias 2001-2006 reign had bad stuff as well from BNP, but far less than now

2001-2006 reign had extremists bombing throughout the country, grenade attacks on Hasina, killing of hundreds of AL activists through army(operation clean-heart), bomb attack on British high-commissioner, systematic persecutions of minorities, repeated attacks on liberals and intellectuals, murdering of MPs. But hey lets whitewash the history to serve the agenda.

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

You don't even know anything about economics. Bangladesh would have high GDP growth regardless of who was in power, it doesn't have many of the geopolitical issues that other countries in south asia or the middle east have.

You cant have high growth without sorting out your energy crisis and improving the economic infrastructure both of which the current government has done in a very efficient manner. For example the self financed padma bridge once finished, would contribute more than 1% growth to the GDP. An Einstein of economics like you should know that developing countries can never attain high growth along with visible economic & social development without a competent government.

 

[sweep_shot]

2001-2006 reign had extremists bombing throughout the country, grenade attacks on Hasina, killing of hundreds of AL activists through army(operation clean-heart), bomb attack on British high-commissioner, systematic persecutions of minorities, repeated attacks on liberals and intellectuals, murdering of MPs. But hey lets whitewash the history to serve the agenda.

Nobody is whitewashing anything. Stop deflecting.

 

[sweep_shot]

You don't even know anything about economics. Bangladesh would have high GDP growth regardless of who was in power, it doesn't have many of the geopolitical issues that other countries in south asia or the middle east have.

You are fully correct.

Bangladesh doesn't have many external issues like some of the neighboring countries. They had it pretty easy actually. Whatever issues Bangladesh had were mostly internal in nature.

Also, growth of Bangladesh would've probably happened anyway whether it was BNP or Awami League.

 

[LongHorn]

2001-2006 reign had extremists bombing throughout the country, grenade attacks on Hasina, killing of hundreds of AL activists through army(operation clean-heart), bomb attack on British high-commissioner, systematic persecutions of minorities, repeated attacks on liberals and intellectuals, murdering of MPs. But hey lets whitewash the history to serve the agenda.

the extremists bombing were caught by the then govt

You dont blame the Holey artisan attack on AL, do you? Then why do you blame Bangla Bhai attacks on BNP?

Bomb attack on British commisioner was sad, but again the govt had nothing to do with it.

If BNP allied people attacked minorities, nowadays Awami allied people attacked Madrasa students and Jamaat supporters
We all know how many were killed at Shapla circle in 2013, with the bodies taken by trucks

But because they were topi clad Madrasa students, you are willing to pretend it was ok

 

[LongHorn]

You are fully correct.

Bangladesh doesn't have many external issues like some of the neighboring countries. They had it pretty easy actually. Whatever issues Bangladesh had were mostly internal in nature.

Also, growth of Bangladesh would've probably happened anyway whether it was BNP or Awami League.

Its the stretch of rule that AL had which helped it

If someone gave BNP power, and told them they had 15 years to work without the threat of AL workers lynching BNP workers on the streets with boat oars, and without them burning public buses, then they would have led Bangladesh to a stable economic period as well.

AL got an unhindered 12 years and "allowed" the country to progress

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

the extremists bombing were caught by the then govt

You dont blame the Holey artisan attack on AL, do you? Then why do you blame Bangla Bhai attacks on BNP?

Bomb attack on British commisioner was sad, but again the govt had nothing to do with it.

If BNP allied people attacked minorities, nowadays Awami allied people attacked Madrasa students and Jamaat supporters
We all know how many were killed at Shapla circle in 2013, with the bodies taken by trucks

But because they were topi clad Madrasa students, you are willing to pretend it was ok

War criminal Nizami, then party head of Jamat-e-Islami and a powerful minister of the government denied the existence of bangla bhai & other extremists. Those extremists had strong ties with ruling jamat-e-islami as well. BNP Jamat should definitely be blamed for the blossoming of extremists in the country.

Madrasa as an institution, have never been as supported as the current government. Master's program of the kawmi(deobandi) madrasas were recognized by the Govt. for the first time in history.

Claim of mass murder incident at shapla circle in 2013 has been debunked many a times. No need in discussing it further.

 

[LongHorn]

https://www.hrw.org/report/2013/08/01/blood-streets/use-excessive-force-during-bangladesh-protests

 

[Giannis]

War criminal Nizami, then party head of Jamat-e-Islami and a powerful minister of the government denied the existence of bangla bhai & other extremists. Those extremists had strong ties with ruling jamat-e-islami as well. BNP Jamat should definitely be blamed for the blossoming of extremists in the country.

Madrasa as an institution, have never been as supported as the current government. Master's program of the kawmi(deobandi) madrasas were recognized by the Govt. for the first time in history.

Claim of mass murder incident at shapla circle in 2013 has been debunked many a times. No need in discussing it further.

You clearly don't care about war criminals or genocide otherwise you wouldn't be justifying what your government is doing right now. Of course all humans are hypocritical by nature. Right now the biggest threat to the Bangladeshi civilian population isn't Pakistan or some war criminals from 50 years ago but the current regime ruling your country. Need to get your priorities right.

 

[sweep_shot]

Claim of mass murder incident at shapla circle in 2013 has been debunked many a times. No need in discussing it further.

Debunked by who? Sheikh Hasina?

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

You clearly don't care about war criminals or genocide otherwise you wouldn't be justifying what your government is doing right now. Of course all humans are hypocritical by nature. Right now the biggest threat to the Bangladeshi civilian population isn't Pakistan or some war criminals from 50 years ago but the current regime ruling your country. Need to get your priorities right.

I haven't claimed my government to be saint. But it is the best from what we have. Government has drastically improved economical and social conditions of millions & millions of people. As late as last week, PM has provided 60+ thousand free homes to homeless & poor families. Padma bridge to be opened this year, would literally change the lives of millions of people. Absurd to claim the govt. to be biggest threat to the country. If you have a better option in mind than AL govt., please enlighten me.

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

Debunked by who? Sheikh Hasina?

Thousands of bodies were never found, thousands of families who lost their sons were never found. Hefajot-E-Islam couldn't provide a valid list of people missing. I can go on & on.

 

[sweep_shot]

If you have a better option in mind than AL govt., please enlighten me.

Will Awami League allow another option to pop up? That's the million dollar question.

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

Will Awami League allow another option to pop up? That's the million dollar question.

BNP Jamaat coalition exists and they are proven failures along with having extremists connection. we will have to wait till Bangladesh army create a dummy leader & a dummy party to beat AL.