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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When a Michelangelo with a camera captures David fighting Goliath in action.<br><br>Getty image by Mustafa Hassouna <a href="https://t.co/MgJAbr7JwQ">pic.twitter.com/MgJAbr7JwQ</a></p>— (((YousefMunayyer))) (@YousefMunayyer) <a href="https://twitter.com/YousefMunayyer/status/1055074784994869248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24 October 2018</a></blockquote>
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This reality is even more one sided than Golaiths strength over David but these freedom fighters are just as brave as David was and Godwilling will be victorious in time.
 
They would gain more by taking the Gandhian route. Use of violence will only give Goliath more excuses to commit harsher violence.
 
They would gain more by taking the Gandhian route. Use of violence will only give Goliath more excuses to commit harsher violence.

I think you will find they tried every single route, peace talks after peace talks but in return more and more land is stolen , more and more of their people are killed. Besides plenty resisted the British and without them, Ghandi wouldn't have caught anyone's attention.

However i would like the Palestinians to call out Muslim nations and shame them for not helping them enough, after all the 3rd most holy site of Muslims is under threat if they dont care much about the people.
 
I think you will find they tried every single route, peace talks after peace talks but in return more and more land is stolen , more and more of their people are killed. Besides plenty resisted the British and without them, Ghandi wouldn't have caught anyone's attention.

However i would like the Palestinians to call out Muslim nations and shame them for not helping them enough, after all the 3rd most holy site of Muslims is under threat if they dont care much about the people.

Palestinians and the Muslim world in general is impotent in this matter. Saudi Arabia would rather see Iran burn than care about Palestinians. We know the economic conditions of other Islamic countries so the less said about them the better. The only way for them is the way of peace. Even if Palestinians fight their war for the next 100 years, USA and the West in general wouldn’t stop their support for Israel. Israel has its propaganda machine well oiled and well placed. Try to argue with any Israeli supporters and you’ll lose your mind on this subject. The only way for the world to recognise the Palestinian struggle is when the Palestinians hold genuine elections and their leadership denounced the internationally recognised terrorist organisations.
On point of Gandhi, his non violent struggle worked thanks to the lunatic that we now know by the name of Hitler. Without WW2 we’d still be ruled by the colonial empire. The Bhagat Singhs of India would still be hung by the British one by one. Their names would be included in international terror watch list. So no, violence will not help Palestinians in gaining their freedom.
 
Palestinians and the Muslim world in general is impotent in this matter. Saudi Arabia would rather see Iran burn than care about Palestinians. We know the economic conditions of other Islamic countries so the less said about them the better. The only way for them is the way of peace. Even if Palestinians fight their war for the next 100 years, USA and the West in general wouldn’t stop their support for Israel. Israel has its propaganda machine well oiled and well placed. Try to argue with any Israeli supporters and you’ll lose your mind on this subject. The only way for the world to recognise the Palestinian struggle is when the Palestinians hold genuine elections and their leadership denounced the internationally recognised terrorist organisations.
On point of Gandhi, his non violent struggle worked thanks to the lunatic that we now know by the name of Hitler. Without WW2 we’d still be ruled by the colonial empire. The Bhagat Singhs of India would still be hung by the British one by one. Their names would be included in international terror watch list. So no, violence will not help Palestinians in gaining their freedom.

That's a terrible idea, once Palestinians call their people as terrorists, they would then legitimise the Zionist excuse to bomb and kill with impunity. 'The international community' is usually referred to the western governments who gave birth to the illegitimate state known as Israel. Palestinians did hold a fair election when Hamas was elected to government but this didn't help them. Yes I know the Muslim nations dont care much but this to shame them regularly to pressure them into doing something more to help the people is the only way atm. This may never result in a state for Palestinians but it may stop or slow down the theft of their land and the killing of their people. Israel only exists due to the backing of western nations and if they start to lose interest so will the Zionist entity. The problem is ironic in many ways because they claim it's the religous extremists in Palestine who are not wanting peace but their nation was built on religious extremism and is now supported by Christian and Jewish extremists who believe the end times are near by and Israel being in existence is part of their prophecy. So imo shame the Muslim nations, continue with the boycotts, expose the terrorist state for it's crimes and as a last resort resist in any way to protect your people.
 
That's a terrible idea, once Palestinians call their people as terrorists, they would then legitimise the Zionist excuse to bomb and kill with impunity. 'The international community' is usually referred to the western governments who gave birth to the illegitimate state known as Israel. Palestinians did hold a fair election when Hamas was elected to government but this didn't help them. Yes I know the Muslim nations dont care much but this to shame them regularly to pressure them into doing something more to help the people is the only way atm. This may never result in a state for Palestinians but it may stop or slow down the theft of their land and the killing of their people. Israel only exists due to the backing of western nations and if they start to lose interest so will the Zionist entity. The problem is ironic in many ways because they claim it's the religous extremists in Palestine who are not wanting peace but their nation was built on religious extremism and is now supported by Christian and Jewish extremists who believe the end times are near by and Israel being in existence is part of their prophecy. So imo shame the Muslim nations, continue with the boycotts, expose the terrorist state for it's crimes and as a last resort resist in any way to protect your people.

Your solution? Because shaming isn’t the solution here.
 
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That's a terrible idea, once Palestinians call their people as terrorists, they would then legitimise the Zionist excuse to bomb and kill with impunity. 'The international community' is usually referred to the western governments who gave birth to the illegitimate state known as Israel. Palestinians did hold a fair election when Hamas was elected to government but this didn't help them. Yes I know the Muslim nations dont care much but this to shame them regularly to pressure them into doing something more to help the people is the only way atm. This may never result in a state for Palestinians but it may stop or slow down the theft of their land and the killing of their people. Israel only exists due to the backing of western nations and if they start to lose interest so will the Zionist entity. The problem is ironic in many ways because they claim it's the religous extremists in Palestine who are not wanting peace but their nation was built on religious extremism and is now supported by Christian and Jewish extremists who believe the end times are near by and Israel being in existence is part of their prophecy. So imo shame the Muslim nations, continue with the boycotts, expose the terrorist state for it's crimes and as a last resort resist in any way to protect your people.

Muslim countries don’t fear killing their own citizens who don’t agree to their policies. There will be nothing to stop them from killing the Palestinians. The Palestinians shaming the Muslim world will be a recipe for disaster. It may result in exacerbating the whole situation.
 
That's a terrible idea, once Palestinians call their people as terrorists, they would then legitimise the Zionist excuse to bomb and kill with impunity. 'The international community' is usually referred to the western governments who gave birth to the illegitimate state known as Israel. Palestinians did hold a fair election when Hamas was elected to government but this didn't help them. Yes I know the Muslim nations dont care much but this to shame them regularly to pressure them into doing something more to help the people is the only way atm. This may never result in a state for Palestinians but it may stop or slow down the theft of their land and the killing of their people. Israel only exists due to the backing of western nations and if they start to lose interest so will the Zionist entity. The problem is ironic in many ways because they claim it's the religous extremists in Palestine who are not wanting peace but their nation was built on religious extremism and is now supported by Christian and Jewish extremists who believe the end times are near by and Israel being in existence is part of their prophecy. So imo shame the Muslim nations, continue with the boycotts, expose the terrorist state for it's crimes and as a last resort resist in any way to protect your people.

I have seen Palestinians spit upon these very torch bearers of the Ummah in foreign lands. These Palestinians are Arabs and think themselves above these Desi types, yet they continue to worship them due to some religiously induced inferiority complex.

Most of the posters here have never even set foot out of their safe houses in Britain or controlled environments when they visit Pakistan. They just visit for Eids and what not or to look after their investments. They are as far detached from reality as possible with no sense of belonging so much so that they jump on the nearest bandwagon. I am a 95% sure a Palestinian would treat a Pakistani Muslim much worse whenever he has the chance and I say that from experience.

You seem to have changed your avatar and attitude of late but I would rather ignore such people and not get into pointless debates.
 
The worst part of the whole situation is that Israel can get away with killing innocent ppl in U.N. run institutions whereas Palestinians are treated as a demographic problem and not a single country in the West even blink. Israel knows that a two state solution will kill its expansionist ambitions whereas in a single state solution they will simply lose the majority. Status quo suits them. Don’t see any change for the next 50 years.
 
I have seen Palestinians spit upon these very torch bearers of the Ummah in foreign lands. These Palestinians are Arabs and think themselves above these Desi types, yet they continue to worship them due to some religiously induced inferiority complex.

Most of the posters here have never even set foot out of their safe houses in Britain or controlled environments when they visit Pakistan. They just visit for Eids and what not or to look after their investments. They are as far detached from reality as possible with no sense of belonging so much so that they jump on the nearest bandwagon. I am a 95% sure a Palestinian would treat a Pakistani Muslim much worse whenever he has the chance and I say that from experience.

You seem to have changed your avatar and attitude of late but I would rather ignore such people and not get into pointless debates.

America has one of the biggest Palestinian communities and Pakistanis and Palestinians here get on very well, there are racists in every community even among arabs they have rivalries, my arab friends tell me that arabs look down on other arabs depending on what country they're from and what their tribe is but these are just generalizations. Pakistanis supporting Palestinians in this conflict is the right thing to do, you shouldn't let some racial complex hold you back just cause you think they don't like you cause of ethnicity.
 
Its iconic from a perspective of the person,nothing else, the same flags of Rajput kingdoms losing to Mughals would had been seen as a joke.

This similarly.
 
Its iconic from a perspective of the person,nothing else, the same flags of Rajput kingdoms losing to Mughals would had been seen as a joke.

This similarly.

It's never a joke because it's a sign of struggle, and that people willing to stand up for their beliefs. No matter how outmatched they are, and no matter how many times they have been defeated.

It's quintessential human - it makes us, us and in more than one way differentiates us from all the other known life-forms that share this planet with us.

There's no difference between any freedom fighter anywhere in the world be it a Marhatta standing up to Mughals despite unfavorable odds, or a Palestinian standing up for their own right.
 
It's never a joke because it's a sign of struggle, and that people willing to stand up for their beliefs. No matter how outmatched they are, and no matter how many times they have been defeated.

It's quintessential human - it makes us, us and in more than one way differentiates us from all the other known life-forms that share this planet with us.

There's no difference between any freedom fighter anywhere in the world be it a Marhatta standing up to Mughals despite unfavorable odds, or a Palestinian standing up for their own right.

True, but it's only heroic in the eyes of a few, the winner takes all kinda battle this is.
 
Faris.jpg

18 years ago today young Faris Odeh was captured in the most iconic photo of the struggle. He was shot dead 10 days later, may God give him his reward.
 
I have seen Palestinians spit upon these very torch bearers of the Ummah in foreign lands. These Palestinians are Arabs and think themselves above these Desi types, yet they continue to worship them due to some religiously induced inferiority complex.

Most of the posters here have never even set foot out of their safe houses in Britain or controlled environments when they visit Pakistan. They just visit for Eids and what not or to look after their investments. They are as far detached from reality as possible with no sense of belonging so much so that they jump on the nearest bandwagon. I am a 95% sure a Palestinian would treat a Pakistani Muslim much worse whenever he has the chance and I say that from experience.

You seem to have changed your avatar and attitude of late but I would rather ignore such people and not get into pointless debates.

I've travelled to many places, have met Palestinians and many other Arabs, some are friends now. I've had no issues with them.

Sure the Muslim world is weak but this wont remain forever and when the time comes they have enough clout to at least stop the violence against the Palestinians and help them get freedom.
 
Your solution? Because shaming isn’t the solution here.

Muslim countries don’t fear killing their own citizens who don’t agree to their policies. There will be nothing to stop them from killing the Palestinians. The Palestinians shaming the Muslim world will be a recipe for disaster. It may result in exacerbating the whole situation.

Its a start, the governments of such nations have to answer to the people. Of course atm the Arab nations are ruled by puppet regimes but over time will change. The solution is to put enough pressure on the Zionist regime to make some sort of lasting peace. For this everyone needs to pressured but the issue is how long do we have left? Israel doesn't want to hang around but speed up it's total control of the land it wants to take and the best way to do this is to send the world into serious turmoil.
 
The desperation of the Israel lobby in trying to oppose Corbyn and BDS demonstrates how scared they are.

Ultimately all the bad stuff that goes on in the World is due to Western imperialism.

So if you have Socialist / Social-Democratic people like Corbyn and Sanders in power in the UK/US it should automatically lead to changes in vassal states like Israel and Saudi.

This will be a huge benefit to mankind.
 
The desperation of the Israel lobby in trying to oppose Corbyn and BDS demonstrates how scared they are.

Ultimately all the bad stuff that goes on in the World is due to Western imperialism.

So if you have Socialist / Social-Democratic people like Corbyn and Sanders in power in the UK/US it should automatically lead to changes in vassal states like Israel and Saudi.

This will be a huge benefit to mankind.

And the likes of you fund it by giving taxes to these governments!
 
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