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Analysis on why Hardik Pandya isn't living up to the hype?

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Firstly I think he is hyped because after a long time India has seen a decent all rounder. I am not judging, its pretty normal misjudge potential when you dont have many options like that currently or in the past some years.

Why I only think that is the reason to for his hype and not his ability which many think to be extraordinary?

Answer with analysis is below.

Being completely unbiased about Pandya's origin, as I have said in other threads multiple times that at the moment he is nothing more than ordinary but that doesnt mean he cant improve, I like giving roam for improvement to players. A prodigy which many make him out to be, he is not.

Why? Lets check out his current potential.

Bowling:

Few weapons of pace bowlers to threat the batsmen are Pace, Swing, Seam, Line, Length
Supporting components: Bounce, Reverse swing, Slower Balls and Bouncers.

He cant swing the ball, the only swing he gets sometimes is random which he himself doesnt even know how. Ok no isuues, as all bowlers dont swing the ball.

But, he cant seam the ball as well atleast regularly enough to be considered a threat.

His pace is decent but doesnt have the pace of Akhtar or Lee to threaten the batsmen only with it.

Bounce is a weapon he have with his height and his action enhances it but that gets minimized with his poor line and length on most occasions and also bounce can never be the main weapon if you want a big international career as its a supporting component which adds a lot of value but cant go solo.

About reverse swing he doesnt know ABC. Yes he can ball a good bouncer but again as I mentioned in the start of this post its a good supporting weapon to have and can get you wickets sometimes just like slower balls (which are mostly used at the end of the innings) but not enough on its own.

Batting:

Now coming to his batting. A good batsmen requires reflexes, hand eye co ordination, technique suited to his style of play, footwork, match awareness and temperament.

His reflexes are ok not the best but not the worst either. Really good with hand eyes co ordination, helps him to hit sixes to spinners. Pretty ordinary technique even considering his style of play and nothing much to rave about his foot work against fast bowlers as every one can see.

Decent match awareness but when you have limited ability against pace (Avg reflexes, poor technique and poor footwork) you cant do anything even if you are aware of the match situation.

Decent temperament like match awareness but as mentioned above not taking pressure and good temperament can be a good support to a player but cant do much to overcome the other issues he has. :misbah3
 
Pandya is a luxury player in a strong team. The only way he knows to score runs is by throwing his bat on every ball. He will convert an already good score to a winning one by hitting few 6s or score a quick fire 50 when the game is already lost and he can slog blindly. He has some batting talent but he still has to learn the art of constructing an innings. His bowling has been almost part timer level.
 
Let's be real. There are batsmen in every corner of Asia that can hit spin the way he does. What distinguishing Pandya from them are his funny hairstyles and tattoos which is why he gets selected. Probably.
 
There is nothing to analyse. He is just not good enough. He does perform once in a while and gives India a false sense of security.
 
His list A and FC stats are mediocre to say the least

India is doing the same mistake with Pandya that Pakistan did with Afridi
 
He's still developing. He needs more time. His bowling doesn't seem to be improving though.
 
He is just not good enough. It's as simple as that. His bowling is not even club level and batting is not good enough either. He can't play pacers. Can slog few against spinners though nothing more than that
 
Hope he is kicked out of all formats. He is at max worth for ipls no international level all rounder.
 
Never liked Pandya to begin with. If the guy had as much variation in his bowling as he has had in his hairstyles then he would've been much better for it.
 
Good to see some of my fellow indian fans are now realising that Pandya is not that special. He is a good fielder, pretty average bowler and an inconsistent batsman who is only going to play a cameo of 30-40 runs once in 5 matches.

Have seen tons of players like him even in old Zimbabwean team. He falls in the category of players like Guy Whitall, Anwar Ali but he is made to look like the second coming of Kapil Dev.
 
The management has a lot of trust in Pandya he needs to improve or be chucked out.. He was given opportunity at the correct time 2 years before WC if he can’t have a good WC he should be discarded and sent back to domestics..
 
The management has a lot of trust in Pandya he needs to improve or be chucked out.. He was given opportunity at the correct time 2 years before WC if he can’t have a good WC he should be discarded and sent back to domestics..

Guys like Vijay Shankar get 2-3 opportunities and are thrown out of the team. Then you have guys like Pandya who are stylish and have funky hairstyles, earrings, fake swag who will never get dropped even after doing nothing in an ODI series.

Have seen this thing for many years in Indian cricket. There is no consistency in giving equal chances to each player. Look at KL Rahul he is dropped after 2 failures but Mr Pandya is still there with his shiny gold chain and earrings. He tries too hard to emulate Dwayne Bravo. Absolutely no improvement in his bowling.
 
Guys like Vijay Shankar get 2-3 opportunities and are thrown out of the team. Then you have guys like Pandya who are stylish and have funky hairstyles, earrings, fake swag who will never get dropped even after doing nothing in an ODI series.

Have seen this thing for many years in Indian cricket. There is no consistency in giving equal chances to each player. Look at KL Rahul he is dropped after 2 failures but Mr Pandya is still there with his shiny gold chain and earrings. He tries too hard to emulate Dwayne Bravo. Absolutely no improvement in his bowling.
Pandya's attitude is bizarre too. You watch his interviews, you get the feeling you are listening to a veteran of 250 ODIs and a consistent performer. Its when you actually watch him play, you realize he would struggle to make this Zimbabwe C side currently playing Pakistan right now :))
 
Guys like Vijay Shankar get 2-3 opportunities and are thrown out of the team. Then you have guys like Pandya who are stylish and have funky hairstyles, earrings, fake swag who will never get dropped even after doing nothing in an ODI series.

Have seen this thing for many years in Indian cricket. There is no consistency in giving equal chances to each player. Look at KL Rahul he is dropped after 2 failures but Mr Pandya is still there with his shiny gold chain and earrings. He tries too hard to emulate Dwayne Bravo. Absolutely no improvement in his bowling.



I am glad vijay Shankar was dropped he wasn’t the solution.. Pandya seemed to have a good ceiling, let’s analyse Pandya of 2016-2017:

A young kid who can hit massive sixes and play at a 150+ strike rate at number 7/8
Can bowl at 140+ how many Indian bowlers can achieve that pace?
A brilliant fielder.

Since Kapil Dev we have never had a half decent pace bowling all rounder, suddenly we had this kid who had the potential.. Naturally anyone would want to give such a kid time to develop and become our very own Zulu.

Whether he worked hard enough getting those chances or whether he reached his ceiling when he was a kid and could not grow further, either ways he just failed.

I would not blame selectors or anyone for giving Pandya the chances anyone would have given a young kid with his skill set chances in Indian team.

He still have time to work hard and improve he has an ideal example of Kohli who is a role model for hard work for everyone throughout the world.. Rather than copying bravo or anyone he should copy kohlis hard work and dedication.

Rahul was not given a chance because Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli are our top 3.. He should have been given an extended duration as well but you can’t compare Rahul’s case with Pandya because Pandya plays a role which India has had only 1 player in its 86 years of cricket playing history.
 
Stats going downhill now in both disciplines. Will take time to develop imo.
May not make it to test level but I believe will have decent future in limited overs cricket.
I don't see any other capable pace allrounder in India right now to rival him.
& Pace allrounder will always preferred over spin all rounder.
likes of Washington sunder/k.pandya needs to prove their worth as a lower order batsman or hitter first to rival hardik pandya.

Pandya Should be used like how England use stokes. As a 6th bowler not front line pacer in odi cricket.
 
I am glad vijay Shankar was dropped he wasn’t the solution.. Pandya seemed to have a good ceiling, let’s analyse Pandya of 2016-2017:

A young kid who can hit massive sixes and play at a 150+ strike rate at number 7/8
Can bowl at 140+ how many Indian bowlers can achieve that pace?
A brilliant fielder.

Since Kapil Dev we have never had a half decent pace bowling all rounder, suddenly we had this kid who had the potential.. Naturally anyone would want to give such a kid time to develop and become our very own Zulu.

Whether he worked hard enough getting those chances or whether he reached his ceiling when he was a kid and could not grow further, either ways he just failed.

I would not blame selectors or anyone for giving Pandya the chances anyone would have given a young kid with his skill set chances in Indian team.

He still have time to work hard and improve he has an ideal example of Kohli who is a role model for hard work for everyone throughout the world.. Rather than copying bravo or anyone he should copy kohlis hard work and dedication.

Rahul was not given a chance because Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli are our top 3.. He should have been given an extended duration as well but you can’t compare Rahul’s case with Pandya because Pandya plays a role which India has had only 1 player in its 86 years of cricket playing history.

That's not the point bhai. Point is if you give players like Vijay Shankar 30 matches even they can perform in 1 out of 5 matches.
 
Stats going downhill now in both disciplines. Will take time to develop imo.
May not make it to test level but I believe will have decent future in limited overs cricket.
I don't see any other capable pace allrounder in India right now to rival him.
& Pace allrounder will always preferred over spin all rounder.
likes of Washington sunder/k.pandya needs to prove their worth as a lower order batsman or hitter first to rival hardik pandya.

Pandya Should be used like how England use stokes. As a 6th bowler not front line pacer in odi cricket.

Your tail already starts at 8, and you wanna play another bowler?
 
Could turn out to be the Anwar Ali of India from the looks of it.
 
Cmon Indian fans..why are you having a go at him just yet..give him some more time he seems to have the basic ingredients..perhaps a bit more hard work is required.
 
I don't understand why people are turning against Pandya. He's young, probably better than Ashraf and has lots of potential. In the CT Final he was India's best player without doubt so he's shown he can deliver when it matters.
 
I think Pandya needs to go one way or the other with either the bat or the ball and not try to look for the equal balance as he would always remain mediocre with the odd bursts of class here and there.

It was what Afridi basically did and how he then eventually became an automatic first choice selection on the team sheet. If his bowling doesn't improve soon then I feel he will just be discarded for a genuine 3rd seamer.
 
I don't understand why people are turning against Pandya. He's young, probably better than Ashraf and has lots of potential. In the CT Final he was India's best player without doubt so he's shown he can deliver when it matters.

He took a keen liking to Pakistan spinners in both games of the CT. He hasn't really shown the same skill against pace bowlers yet.
 
Cmon Indian fans..why are you having a go at him just yet..give him some more time he seems to have the basic ingredients..perhaps a bit more hard work is required.

Because he is a bit and pieces hack for starters?
 
I think your being harsh. He needs a bit more time..what other real pace allrounders do you have?

We have none, but that doesn't mean we have to install a pretender at the crucial #7 position in the ODI line-up.

Bring in another batsman I say. Shreyas Iyer. Manish Pandey. Or similar.
 
I am not sure if Pandya is the problem in current Indian ODI team, miss directed anger. Real problem is why your middle order is so bad DK, Raina, Dhoni?? - None of these India should be planning to take to WC, this is recipe of disaster, WC is not in India, just remember that ;-)
 
Has played some breathtaking knocks and the potential is definetly there. He will take some time to become consistent, but India should definitely stick with him. He is a match winner with bat.

In terms of his bowling, he is very erratic and bowls a lot of rubbish. He could do well to focus on line and length and contain.
 
Pandaya has a high ceiling.Remember when Jaddu was made fun off now he is a key member of Indian test side show some patience with young talents
 
Average bowler, brilliant hitter and a terrific fielder.

India does not have players who can shred opponents bowling in the final overs and you want the only guy who has done it a few times be chucked out of the team? :facepalm:

Every Indian pacer was going at over 6 RPO and Pandya is right with them. These pitches are roads.

Pandya will be the Captain of this Indian team once Kohli is done. Mark it.
 
Biggest problem isn't his batting. It's the fact he's being relied as a front line bowler. India have very few part timers to rely on, hence they are forced to bowl Pandya. You can't take him off for a part timer. And honestly he's not good enough for a front line role, he can't given you safe 10 overs reliably. It's why spin part timers often are better, they'll reliably give you those 10 safe overs, may not take wickets, but they tend not to get hit as much.

Usually the allrounder who isn't good enough to get in batting or bowling isn't worth it. And that's been the case with allrounders recently, they're often the weak link in the bowling attack.

India are better off choosing an allrounder who can deliver 10 safe overs reliably (keep runs down if not get wickets), like a Jadeja sort of player. Or just play another bowler. India's batting even with their middle order woes is probably strong enough to do so.

India need to get two of Pandey, Iyer and Rahul to fix their middle order batting woes. Banking on Pandya for batting isn't a reliable strategy when the above three have the talent and capability to average 40 plus and good strike rates which Pandya doesn't.

They could stick with Pandya, hoping his batting improves to offset the worse bowling. Which could happen. But really it's India's middle order which is the problem. If that improves too, Pandya's freedom to hit is increased.
 
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We have none, but that doesn't mean we have to install a pretender at the crucial #7 position in the ODI line-up.

Bring in another batsman I say. Shreyas Iyer. Manish Pandey. Or similar.

So your solution to the Pandya problem is to bring back.....Manish Pandey. :facepalm:
 
Biggest problem isn't his batting. It's the fact he's being relied as a front line bowler. India have very few part timers to rely on, hence they are forced to bowl Pandya. You can't take him off for a part timer. And honestly he's not good enough for a front line role, he can't given you safe 10 overs reliably. It's why spin part timers often are better, they'll reliably give you those 10 safe overs, may not take wickets, but they tend not to get hit as much.

Usually the allrounder who isn't good enough to get in batting or bowling isn't worth it. And that's been the case with allrounders recently, they're often the weak link in the bowling attack.

India are better off choosing an allrounder who can deliver 10 safe overs reliably (keep runs down if not get wickets), like a Jadeja sort of player. Or just play another bowler. India's batting even with their middle order woes is probably strong enough to do so.

India need to get two of Pandey, Iyer and Rahul to fix their middle order batting woes. Banking on Pandya for batting isn't a reliable strategy when the above three have the talent and capability to average 40 plus and good strike rates which Pandya doesn't.

They could stick with Pandya, hoping his batting improves to offset the worse bowling. Which could happen. But really it's India's middle order which is the problem. If that improves too, Pandya's freedom to hit is increased.

I agree.

Making Pandya as a strike bowler is pathetic. He is a bowler who should be bowling between overs 20-40. Not in power plays. But India is making him bowl as the others are not doing it too well in the absence of Bumrah.

Rohit
Dhawan
Rahul
Kohli
Shaw/Gill
Pant
Pandya

This should be the Top 7 batting in LOI's. You have proper star batsmen from positions 1-4 and then followed by the steadiness of Shaw/Gill and then followed by brutal hitting of Pant and Pandya.

Lets see what the selectors will do in the next few months.
 
So your solution to the Pandya problem is to bring back.....Manish Pandey. :facepalm:

Yes - a proper batsman. His job is to score runs, not to dither with the bat and then give an excuse that he can make up his perceived value to the team with the ball. Rinse and repeat in reverse when he has the ball in hand. Pandya, of course.
 
Yes - a proper batsman. His job is to score runs, not to dither with the bat and then give an excuse that he can make up his perceived value to the team with the ball. Rinse and repeat in reverse when he has the ball in hand. Pandya, of course.

Ahahahahahaa!

Mainish Pandey? Oh man!! He is a dud. He cannot take singles and at best can score at 100 S/R and that too in T20's. A guy who struggles to score boundaries and rotate strike is not the solution.

Manish Pandey is the Problem. Not the solution.
 
Yes - a proper batsman. His job is to score runs, not to dither with the bat and then give an excuse that he can make up his perceived value to the team with the ball. Rinse and repeat in reverse when he has the ball in hand. Pandya, of course.

I don't know which Manish pandey you're talking about but the Manish pandey i know about struggles to clear the 30 yard circle. Have fun with his 30 from 57 deliveries type innings.
 
Ahahahahahaa!

Mainish Pandey? Oh man!! He is a dud. He cannot take singles and at best can score at 100 S/R and that too in T20's. A guy who struggles to score boundaries and rotate strike is not the solution.

Manish Pandey is the Problem. Not the solution.

He averages 40 in ODIs striking at 93, with a ton in Australia of all places. He is eons ahead of Pandya even taking into account the supposed faults listed above.
 
Ahahahahahaa!

Mainish Pandey? Oh man!! He is a dud. He cannot take singles and at best can score at 100 S/R and that too in T20's. A guy who struggles to score boundaries and rotate strike is not the solution.

Manish Pandey is the Problem. Not the solution.

Exactly. How can anyone even think that Pandey is the solution to our middle order problem is beyond me.
 
Ahahahahahaa!

Mainish Pandey? Oh man!! He is a dud. He cannot take singles and at best can score at 100 S/R and that too in T20's. A guy who struggles to score boundaries and rotate strike is not the solution.

Manish Pandey is the Problem. Not the solution.

It seems to me that everybody who is not in the Indian team is the solution.
 
We have none, but that doesn't mean we have to install a pretender at the crucial #7 position in the ODI line-up.

Bring in another batsman I say. Shreyas Iyer. Manish Pandey. Or similar.

And how would you bowl 50 overs ? I don't think Pandya should be dropped, but somehow a fast-bowling all-rounder (not a batting all-rounder like Pandya) should be brought in, like Ashish Reddy.
 
He averages 40 in ODIs striking at 93, with a ton in Australia of all places. He is eons ahead of Pandya even taking into account the supposed faults listed above.

Have you watched a single game involving Pandey since that Australia series?
 
Have you watched a single game involving Pandey since that Australia series?

Pandya is needed because you need someone to bowl their 10 overs without lengthening the tail too much.

Imagine playing a bowler like Shami or Siraj in place of Pandya. If Dhoni does not retire, the tail starts after Kohli especially if Pandey is inclided as [MENTION=132715]Varun[/MENTION] said.

Some people simply do not understand the balance of the team. Its not like we have a Wasim Akram or Glenn McGrath waiting on the bench to replace Pandya.
 
Some people simply do not understand the balance of the team. Its not like we have a Wasim Akram or Glenn McGrath waiting on the bench to replace Pandya.

It's still not hard to 'replace' a guy who should never have been there in the first place. Let me state his List A stats:

Games: 62
Bat Avg: 27.88
Bowl Avg: 39.58

That should be the other way around. Why does he get a free pass in the team, and in all formats at that?
 
It's still not hard to 'replace' a guy who should never have been there in the first place. Let me state his List A stats:

Games: 62
Bat Avg: 27.88
Bowl Avg: 39.58

That should be the other way around. Why does he get a free pass in the team, and in all formats at that?
The lad is an extra-ordinary talent with immense potential :virat
 
Well what is this? Some of you guys were saying a few weeks back that he’s Kapil Dev v2. Now you’re saying he’s good for nothing.

I never felt he’s a potential ATG all rounder. But we don’t need ATGs. We just need a good all rounder who can add some strength to our middle order and bowl 10 overs without giving away many runs. Pandya can do that. His bowling is actually improving and his batting is already good,
 
Well what is this? Some of you guys were saying a few weeks back that he’s Kapil Dev v2. Now you’re saying he’s good for nothing.

I never felt he’s a potential ATG all rounder. But we don’t need ATGs. We just need a good all rounder who can add some strength to our middle order and bowl 10 overs without giving away many runs. Pandya can do that. His bowling is actually improving and his batting is already good,
Average of 156 in the recently concluded series shows definite improvement
 
Average of 156 in the recently concluded series shows definite improvement

I don’t follow stats. I watch cricket. His bowling has improved. I’ve noticed it. There are some consistency issues. That’s it.
 
Well what is this? Some of you guys were saying a few weeks back that he’s Kapil Dev v2. Now you’re saying he’s good for nothing.

Please quote the posts in question. Nobody said this about him yesterday, nobody is saying that about him now. He'd do well to be an Ajit Agarkar or Irfan Pathan.
 
Please quote the posts in question. Nobody said this about him yesterday, nobody is saying that about him now. He'd do well to be an Ajit Agarkar or Irfan Pathan.

That Pandya vs Faheem thread is several pages long...
 
This is harsh. It can go either way. I hope it goes downhill but that's not to say he may not improve
 
Average bowler, brilliant hitter and a terrific fielder.

India does not have players who can shred opponents bowling in the final overs and you want the only guy who has done it a few times be chucked out of the team? :facepalm:

Every Indian pacer was going at over 6 RPO and Pandya is right with them. These pitches are roads.

Pandya will be the Captain of this Indian team once Kohli is done. Mark it.

Agreed, I would much rather have him over Faheem who hasn't played a single knock in LOIs of note. Faheem and Pandya are supporting role bowlers, so they should not be judged primarily for their bowling attributes however it seems not many have not grasped this concept.
 
The lad is an extra-ordinary talent with immense potential :virat

Yes he is an exceptional talent. Let's see his last 10-12 innings in ODI's

21
21
0
9
14
3*
8
10
8
30
16
---------
140 runs at an avg of 14

Even Shardul outscored him in the last match.
 
Agreed, I would much rather have him over Faheem who hasn't played a single knock in LOIs of note. Faheem and Pandya are supporting role bowlers, so they should not be judged primarily for their bowling attributes however it seems not many have not grasped this concept.

Faheem with an average of 19 in T20s and 22 in ODIs should not be judged on his bowling because it will make Hardik Sobers look bad?
 
Please quote the posts in question. Nobody said this about him yesterday, nobody is saying that about him now. He'd do well to be an Ajit Agarkar or Irfan Pathan.

Some fans did actually say that he is the best since Kapil Dev.
 
Faheem with an average of 19 in T20s and 22 in ODIs should not be judged on his bowling because it will make Hardik Sobers look bad?

The problem with looking into stats at face value like this is that you've portrayed Faheem as a strike bowler but the reality is he wouldn't make the team as a bowler alone because he isn't a prolific wicket taker, so unfortunately this theory of yours breaks down here.
 
Yes he is an exceptional talent. Let's see his last 10-12 innings in ODI's

21
21
0
9
14
3*
8
10
8
30
16
---------
140 runs at an avg of 14

Even Shardul outscored him in the last match.

Poor run no doubt but to average 30 lower down the order at SR 114 is excellent. Also it doesn't help when Dhoni is batting at a SR 50-60.
 
The problem with looking into stats at face value like this is that you've portrayed Faheem as a strike bowler but the reality is he wouldn't make the team as a bowler alone because he isn't a prolific wicket taker, so unfortunately this theory of yours breaks down here.

Sorry sir players are judged based on their stats and performances not on their hairstyles.
 
The problem with looking into stats at face value like this is that you've portrayed Faheem as a strike bowler but the reality is he wouldn't make the team as a bowler alone because he isn't a prolific wicket taker, so unfortunately this theory of yours breaks down here.

Your post shows your ignorance. Faheem averages in 20s in even FC and List A. He was the top bowler in the last PSL. He already has a hat trick in T20Is and a 5-fer in ODIs. Even in England tests, he picked up crucial wickets. He is not someone like Pandya who recently started rolling his arm.
 
Poor run no doubt but to average 30 lower down the order at SR 114 is excellent. Also it doesn't help when Dhoni is batting at a SR 50-60.

What if these were Vijay Shankar/Yousuf Pathan's stats instead of Pandya? Would you have defended them as well?
 
Your post shows your ignorance. Faheem averages in 20s in even FC and List A. He was the top bowler in the last PSL. He already has a hat trick in T20Is and a 5-fer in ODIs. Even in England tests, he picked up crucial wickets. He is not someone like Pandya who recently started rolling his arm.

Ignorance is to equate Faheem at the same level as Hasan Ali, Amir and etc because of similar averages. If you were to see the wickets per game and compare then you'll see why this backfires.
 
I like to annoy [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] as much as the next person.

That said, Pandya is a solid hitter, and a potentially very good bowler. India's coaching setup for bowling is pathetic, who's he supposed to look up to for advice, Bhuvneshwar?

He's contributing runs, and bowling as good as India's frontline pacers anyway. Hardly the main problem.
 
What if these were Vijay Shankar/Yousuf Pathan's stats instead of Pandya? Would you have defended them as well?

Whether you rate Pandya or not, he is India's best lower order hitter and is far better at it than Faheem. Pandya needs time. Pathan had his time and didn't improve against the faster bowlers.
 
Even though he averages 40 with the ball it's still decent as per India's standards. He can be useful hitter once in a while. He was never anything more than that nor did he show any special potential especially with the ball. This shouldn't be surprising. Having said that, it doesn't mean he can't improve.
 
Whether you rate Pandya or not, he is India's best lower order hitter and is far better at it than Faheem. Pandya needs time. Pathan had his time and didn't improve against the faster bowlers.

How much time does Pandya need? I think he has already played 2-2.5 years of International Cricket?
 
I don't get comparing Pandya to Faheem. Pandya is getting in thanks to his batting, Faheem is getting in on his bowling.

Pandya may seem a better talent bowling and batting wise, but you can't argue with results, Faheem is performing very well with the ball.
 
How much time does Pandya need? I think he has already played 2-2.5 years of International Cricket?

Until the world cup because teams are now running out of time to experiment and as mentioned earlier there is no better lower order hitter to compete with him. Since India doesn't have the batting depth of an England side, he has to be persisted. If he fails for most of the period from now till then and proves to be underwhelming in the tournament next year, then yes he needs to be axed from the squad.

Having said that I'm sure he will flourish and prove his critics wrong.
 
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