And some said Hashim Amla is not a batsman suited to ODIs....

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And some said Hashim Amla is not a batsman suited to ODIs:<br>Nearly 7000 runs<br>Average 50.38<br>4 scores of over 150<br>24 100s<br>32 50s<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/867458162366001152">May 24, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Rayyman]

He is a great ODI player. Excellent record and fun to watch.

 

[Mamoon]

Softest 7000 runs you will ever see.

 

[Rayyman]

Softest 7000 runs you will ever see.

It's unfair to say that De Kock is already the better ODI opener for SA.

 

[jazba]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And some said Hashim Amla is not a batsman suited to ODIs:<br>Nearly 7000 runs<br>Average 50.38<br>4 scores of over 150<br>24 100s<br>32 50s<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/867458162366001152">May 24, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Legend!

 

[Bilal7]

The second greatest ODI opener of all-time. ATG batsman across formats and one of the nicest famous people you'll ever see.

 

[JoniInsafian]

Softest 7000 runs you will ever see.

Softer than Tendulkar??? )

 

[Coconut]

Softer than Tendulkar??? )

Pls don't derail the thread dude. Tendulkar is easily one of the best big match players in the history of cricket.

He has an exceptional record in tournament finals.

 

[Mamoon]

Softer than Tendulkar??? )

Much softer. Tendulkar's 98 vs Pakistan at Centurion alone is better than any ODI runs Amla has scored.

To Amla's credit, he is without question one of the greatest 'bilateral' ODI players of all time, but that is where it ends. However, he still has to time to set the record straight, and I wish him well.

 

[Coconut]

Much softer. Tendulkar's 98 vs Pakistan at Centurion alone is better than any ODI runs Amla has scored.

To Amla's credit, he is without question one of the greatest 'bilateral' ODI players of all time, but that is where it ends. However, he still has to time to set the record straight, and I wish him well.

Why do u think ppl have this misconception about Tendulkar? He played some outstanding innings in quite a few big matches in the past.

 

[Mamoon]

Why do u think ppl have this misconception about Tendulkar? He played some outstanding innings in quite a few big matches in the past.

Failed in two World Cup finals, wasn't ruthless like Kohli and there is obviously a strong bias against him.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Amla is an excellent ODI opener, might not be the greatest but probably the most consistent.

 

[dauntless]

Brilliant odi batsman I would love to have him in my all time odi 11.He has scored runs everywhere irrespective of conditions and pitch.

 

[todfod 11]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And some said Hashim Amla is not a batsman suited to ODIs:<br>Nearly 7000 runs<br>Average 50.38<br>4 scores of over 150<br>24 100s<br>32 50s<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/867458162366001152">May 24, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I dont see any point in him scoring in useless bilateral.. he is a failure in world tourney. So his runs does not count..

 

[CricketCartoons]

Unfair to bring his big match stats, as he had only played 5 matches which were in the knockout stage (averages 17). 5 matches out of 150 odd matches mean nothing.

 

[Indiafan]

Failed in two World Cup finals, wasn't ruthless like Kohli and there is obviously a strong bias against him.

one was chasing 360 against Australia. The sample size is too small considering he excelled in most world tourneys and most finals.

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

one was chasing 360 against Australia. The sample size is too small considering he excelled in most world tourneys and most finals.

Has an outstanding record in quarters and semis too.

Amla has been a total failure in world cups overall, let alone in just finals.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Brilliant player for all formats.

 

[Bilal7]

Has an outstanding record in quarters and semis too.

Amla has been a total failure in world cups overall, let alone in just finals.

An average of 45 at a SR of 85 is hardly the numbers of a "total failure". Amla has played plenty of good innings in the World Cups of both formats.

 

[Bilal7]

Unfair to bring his big match stats, as he had only played 5 matches which were in the knockout stage (averages 17). 5 matches out of 150 odd matches mean nothing.

One of those was in a paltry chase against Sri Lanka which would have been disregarded anyways and the other was cut short due to a freak dismissal where the ball hit his boot and went to the keeper for a catch.

 

[Mamoon]

one was chasing 360 against Australia. The sample size is too small considering he excelled in most world tourneys and most finals.

Big target is not a license to fail. He was comfortably the best batsman in the world at that point, who was nearly invincible at the World Cup. In the final against an ATG team, he should have put up a fight. Had Tendulkar delivered on that day or in Mumbai in 2011, he would have probably finished above Viv Richards as the greatest ODI batsman of all time.

However, he has done more than enough in his career and in tournaments to override the failures in the World Cup finals. The idea that he was a choker and a soft run scorer is nothing but a myth.

 

[Bilal7]

Big target is not a license to fail. He was comfortably the best batsman in the world at that point, who was nearly invincible at the World Cup. In the final against an ATG team, he should have put up a fight. Had Tendulkar delivered on that day or in Mumbai in 2011, he would have probably finished above Viv Richards as the greatest ODI batsman of all time.

However, he has done more than enough in his career and in tournaments to override the failures in the World Cup finals. The idea that he was a choker and a soft run scorer is nothing but a myth.

Just as it is for Amla.

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

An average of 45 at a SR of 85 is hardly the numbers of a "total failure". Amla has played plenty of good innings in the World Cups of both formats.

And most of his 50+ scores in WCs are against poor side. Seriously go look it up... the only decent innings I remember from him was a 60-odd against India in 2011... apart from that he has been rubbish against the good teams I'm a big fan of him as a test player. But in ODIs he falls short in a big way.

 

[Mamoon]

Just as it is for Amla.

It's not. He doesn't have a single World Cup hundred against a non-associate team. He has been a failure throughout, let alone the knockouts. His World Cup average is boosted by tons against Netherlands and Ireland, he doesn't have anything to show for except for a half-century vs India. For someone who is one of the most prolific batsmen in history with one of the best innings/century ratio, it is quite a terrible record.

However, he one more World Cup to set the record straight, and good luck to him.

 

[Pollack]

Greatest accumulator in ODI opening history. Don't know why accumulating is seen bad for an opener. Opener by all means can accumulate.

 

[JoniInsafian]

Big target is not a license to fail. He was comfortably the best batsman in the world at that point, who was nearly invincible at the World Cup. In the final against an ATG team, he should have put up a fight. Had Tendulkar delivered on that day or in Mumbai in 2011, he would have probably finished above Viv Richards as the greatest ODI batsman of all time.

However, he has done more than enough in his career and in tournaments to override the failures in the World Cup finals. The idea that he was a choker and a soft run scorer is nothing but a myth.

Most of his centuries were scored in lost matches, he failed in world cup finals.... But not a soft run scorer...

Amla who wins it for his team in bilaterals and has a similar average to Tendulkar in world cups is a soft run scorer....

Mamoon double standards again

 

[Mamoon]

Most of his centuries were scored in lost matches, he failed in world cup finals.... But not a soft run scorer...

Amla who wins it for his team in bilaterals and has a similar average to Tendulkar in world cups is a soft run scorer....

Mamoon double standards again

It is not about winning or losing matches. At the end of the day, it is a team game. However, individual performances do matter. There is no doubt that Tendulkar did not have the killer-instinct of someone like Viv Richards or Ponting or Kohli, and that is why he does not rank as the number one ODI batsman of all time in spite of all the records that he has. He carried a weak team on his back for a long time, but perhaps he could have done more to win some of those games.

The difference between him and Amla is that Tendulkar was a very prolific World Cup/Tournaments player. He was brilliant in 1996, 2003 and 201, and performed against quality opposition. The only thing lacking was his performance in World Cup finals, which as I have addressed already, counts against him.

On the contrary, Amla has been useless in World Cups. You talk about his averages, but those were boosted by his hundreds against Ireland and Netherlands. He does not have a single world class innings against any decent side. There is no comparison between the two, Amla is the biggest choker in Limited Overs history, while Tendulkar was not a big match-winner but he was far from a choker.

I have explained everything to you bit by bit and in detail. If you still don't get it, I am sorry but I don't have the energy to break it down further to you.

 

[yasir]

When he scores in important matches, specially chasing, then we will we talk.

He looks mathematically very good, but you cannot count on him when chips are down. That is also something against AB and even mighty Styen in LOIs... There is a reason SA never won tournaments, lot of blame goes to top tier, they just don't have nerves for it. Remember, ODIs is all about winning tournaments, bilateral series are for practice/warmups

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Softer than Tendulkar??? )

Never watched Tendulkar in the 90s did you? Tendulkar is by far the greatest opening batsman in ODI, no one is even comparable.

 

[Ab Fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And some said Hashim Amla is not a batsman suited to ODIs:<br>Nearly 7000 runs<br>Average 50.38<br>4 scores of over 150<br>24 100s<br>32 50s<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/867458162366001152">May 24, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Absolutely. He is definitely suited to limited overs format game.

He is a very good limited over player but the problem however is that he has failed to deliver in crucial stages for his team and his numbers are boosted by WI and minnows bashing.

 

[Dead Ball]

Amla's stats against top 6 teams in big stages (its safe to consider that WI were minnows during most of his career)

World Cup - 28
Champions Trophy - 28
Knockouts - I think 17 or 18?

And this is in a decent sampe size of 17 matches out of the 111 he has played against the top 6 so far.

Besides this, i think he has failed to deliver in T20 WC's too?

How can anyone consider him an ATG opener when he has yet to prove himself in high pressure non bilateral games?

He is a good opener, but not as good as his numbers suggest.

 

[Bilal7]

It's not. He doesn't have a single World Cup hundred against a non-associate team. He has been a failure throughout, let alone the knockouts. His World Cup average is boosted by tons against Netherlands and Ireland, he doesn't have anything to show for except for a half-century vs India. For someone who is one of the most prolific batsmen in history with one of the best innings/century ratio, it is quite a terrible record.

However, he one more World Cup to set the record straight, and good luck to him.

A World Cup failure is a World Cup failure, regardless of the opposition. If he was gutless like you say he is then it wouldn't matter if the opposition is Australia or Ireland, he would fail because the quality of the opposition isn't what's causing him to fail, his own mental problems are.

Anyways, we're not going to change each other's opinions on this subject. Only Amla can do that.

It is funny though that some of the people who have posted in this thread consider Kohli an ATG batsman when his World Cup record is even worse than Amla's, considering that he got to play one in Asia and as part of one of the greatest ODI teams ever.

 

[Mamoon]

A World Cup failure is a World Cup failure, regardless of the opposition. If he was gutless like you say he is then it wouldn't matter if the opposition is Australia or Ireland, he would fail because the quality of the opposition isn't what's causing him to fail, his own mental problems are.

Anyways, we're not going to change each other's opinions on this subject. Only Amla can do that.

It is funny though that some of the people who have posted in this thread consider Kohli an ATG batsman when his World Cup record is even worse than Amla's, considering that he got to play one in Asia and as part of one of the greatest ODI teams ever.

I agree, we have been through this a dozen times and this discussion doesn't lead to anything.

 

[idrizzy]

Softest 7000 runs you will ever see.

If Amla played for Pak as an opener people would be comparing him to Anwar, Miandad, Inzi etc. You can't deny he's a class player but of course if you do want to be an ATG you have to perform on the big stage.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

One simply cannot defend Hashim's failures on the big stage. He's failed far too much.

 

[Abdul]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hashim Amla:<br>Fastest to 2000 ODI runs <br>Fastest to 3000<br>Fastest to 4000<br>Fastest to 5000<br>Fastest to 6000<br>Fastest to 7000 ODI runs<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/869447170797318146">May 30, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[the_best]

Softest 7000 runs you will ever see.

Out of curiosity who has the hardest 1000 runs. How could you objectively determine quality of run

 

[Zak_Fan]

I doubt anyone labelled him not suitable for ODIs. The only criticism he gets is a lack of impact, specially when it comes to certain comparisons.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Some deluded people can think what they want, but Hashim Amla is a classy touch player who surely is someone who goes about his business very smoothly and quietly.

 

[Mamoon]

If Amla played for Pak as an opener people would be comparing him to Anwar, Miandad, Inzi etc. You can't deny he's a class player but of course if you do want to be an ATG you have to perform on the big stage.

Pakistan is not a yardstick when it comes to batting. We have only produced one ATG (Miandad), and he even he is a lower-tier. Let alone Amla, even Dhawan - who is concerned mediocre by Indian standards - would be a Pakistani great in ODIs already with his overall stats and performances in big matches.

 

[Mamoon]

Out of curiosity who has the hardest 1000 runs. How could you objectively determine quality of run

Performances under pressure determine the true greatness of a player in any format. Almost every good international cricketer who has played a sizable number of matches is capable of making hay when the sun shines. Whilst Amla has been a terrific Test batsman who has played some invaluable high-impact knocks under pressure, he has failed to make the same mark in ODIs and T20Is.

In fact, his chronic choking is the major reason why South Africa have not won a single trophy (WC, CT, WT20) during Amla's career, in spite of being heavy favorites regularly on paper. When your most prolific batsman goes missing under pressure almost every time, it becomes very difficult as a team to pull through. Of course, it doesn't help when your teammates have a documented history of losing the plot under pressure too.

Not only does he fail in tournaments, he also fails in big run chases - he will either get out cheaply, or he will play a typical inconsequential run-a-ball innings when the situation will demand a SR of 120+ etc., thus taking his team nowhere but padding up his stats in the process, before eventually throwing his wicket away because he doesn't have a second gear. He is a brilliant accumulator who can maintain a strike rate of 90 odd without much fuss, but when the require rate goes up to 8 and 9, he does not have the big shots to accelerate.

Average of 50 with a SR of 89 and 24 hundreds is a marvelous record, and his record in T20Is is more than decent as well, but the impact simply hasn't been there on the pitch. South Africa have not achieved (and will not achieve) anything of note in ODIs and Limited Overs cricket in general during his career, they have not won a single knockout game due to his batting, which is why he pales in comparison to the greats of the past. His stats are of a legend, but has merely been a good player, and is a shining example of why the South African trophy cabinet is empty in Limited Overs and will continue to collect dust.

 

[the_best]

Performances under pressure determine the true greatness of a player in any format. Almost every good international cricketer who has played a sizable number of matches is capable of making hay when the sun shines. Whilst Amla has been a terrific Test batsman who has played some invaluable high-impact knocks under pressure, he has failed to make the same mark in ODIs and T20Is.

In fact, his chronic choking is the major reason why South Africa have not won a single trophy (WC, CT, WT20) during Amla's career, in spite of being heavy favorites regularly on paper. When your most prolific batsman goes missing under pressure almost every time, it becomes very difficult as a team to pull through. Of course, it doesn't help when your teammates have a documented history of losing the plot under pressure too.

Not only does he fail in tournaments, he also fails in big run chases - he will either get out cheaply, or he will play a typical inconsequential run-a-ball innings when the situation will demand a SR of 120+ etc., thus taking his team nowhere but padding up his stats in the process, before eventually throwing his wicket away because he doesn't have a second gear. He is a brilliant accumulator who can maintain a strike rate of 90 odd without much fuss, but when the require rate goes up to 8 and 9, he does not have the big shots to accelerate.

Average of 50 with a SR of 89 and 24 hundreds is a marvelous record, and his record in T20Is is more than decent as well, but the impact simply hasn't been there on the pitch. South Africa have not achieved (and will not achieve) anything of note in ODIs and Limited Overs cricket in general during his career, they have not won a single knockout game due to his batting, which is why he pales in comparison to the greats of the past. His stats are of a legend, but has merely been a good player, and is a shining example of why the South African trophy cabinet is empty in Limited Overs and will continue to collect dust.

So runs against minnows or bilateral should not be counted. So Bradman's 7000 runs should be reset because it was against weak English attack (bar one series), weakest WI and SA attack and poor Indian attack. In none of the matches there was pressure situation .
My question was simple - who scored the hardest 1000 runs? may be Habibul Basar? and how could I objectively qualify it? Is the run Ganguly scored against Kenya to save India from certain defeat is softer than the run he scored in WC final? if it is soft how soft it is? what are the objectively verifiable parameters.

 

[big_gamer007]

He has 3 more big tournaments to be considered in the league of ATG players, if he fails in them he would always be considered as a choker same case with AB.. Both need to make sure SA win 2 out of the 3 major trophies in next 2 years..

 

[QalandarFan]

I dont see any point in him scoring in useless bilateral.. he is a failure in world tourney. So his runs does not count..

If by failure you mean an average of 43, at SR of 92 along with 2 hundreds and a HS of 159, Then my friend I guess we all have different opinions.

 

[todfod 11]

If by failure you mean an average of 43, at SR of 92 along with 2 hundreds and a HS of 159, Then my friend I guess we all have different opinions.

May be I expect more from him.

 

[Bilal7]

He has 3 more big tournaments to be considered in the league of ATG players, if he fails in them he would always be considered as a choker same case with AB.. Both need to make sure SA win 2 out of the 3 major trophies in next 2 years..

Virat Kohli has done worse than either AB or Amla in ODI World Cups, considering that he played one of them at home. If all three were to retire tomorrow, he'd have the weakest World Cup record out of all three. Only thing of note he has is a scratchy, flukey century against Pakistan and his choke during the semi-final against Australia was cringe-worthy.

 

[SL_Fan]

If by failure you mean an average of 43, at SR of 92 along with 2 hundreds and a HS of 159, Then my friend I guess we all have different opinions.

Thus far he has flopped in ICC tourneys actually.


Minus the associates

 

[Hasan123]

Virat Kohli has done worse than either AB or Amla in ODI World Cups, considering that he played one of them at home. If all three were to retire tomorrow, he'd have the weakest World Cup record out of all three. Only thing of note he has is a scratchy, flukey century against Pakistan and his choke during the semi-final against Australia was cringe-worthy.

Its hilarious how an Amla fan can mock Kohli's icc tournament record.

 

[Bilal7]

Its hilarious how an Amla fan can mock Kohli's icc tournament record.

You got it the wrong way around.

 

[Hasan123]

You got it the wrong way around.

No I have it the right way round. Amla is a proven choker. Kohli top scored in the final of the CT in 2013, how many knockout match winning knocks does Amla have?

Any other player with Amals record in icc tournaments you would call them a choker.

 

[big_gamer007]

Virat Kohli has done worse than either AB or Amla in ODI World Cups, considering that he played one of them at home. If all three were to retire tomorrow, he'd have the weakest World Cup record out of all three. Only thing of note he has is a scratchy, flukey century against Pakistan and his choke during the semi-final against Australia was cringe-worthy.

THread is about Amla mate not kohli if kohli has no real performances in big matches during the last 2 years of his career then I would say the same about kohli what I said about Amla.. Kohli however has 8-10 years of cricket left in him and he is just entering his peak 5 years so expectations are high from him.. Let's hope he doesn't disappoint..

 

[big_gamer007]

Also to add to my above post kohli I think has 17 or something centuries chasing in victories was amazing in WT20 and CT2013.. This CT and next WC if he scores and helps India win he will be best ever ODI player above Viv and Sachin for me..

 

[Bilal7]

Also to add to my above post kohli I think has 17 or something centuries chasing in victories was amazing in WT20 and CT2013.. This CT and next WC if he scores and helps India win he will be best ever ODI player above Viv and Sachin for me..

Yes, Kohli has been great in bilaterals played in India and Asia, in general, but Amla has been unstoppable all over the world and has broken every single milestone-record that Kohli has set-up.

Don't bring T20s into this. Amla has been one of the best batsmen of the last decade in test cricket with plenty of superb innings under pressure. However, that apparently isn't enough to remove his choker tag. Ditto with AB. I don't see how Kohli's T20 exploits can be used to justify his failures under pressure in ODIs.

The last CT final was a T20 match, by the way.

No I have it the right way round. Amla is a proven choker. Kohli top scored in the final of the CT in 2013, how many knockout match winning knocks does Amla have?

Any other player with Amals record in icc tournaments you would call them a choker.

You clearly can't read. The Kohli fan above me mocked Amla and AB, despite Kohli being a bonafide choker in ODIs as well.

 

[Mainul]

Someone says softest,LOL.

 

[Hasan123]

Yes, Kohli has been great in bilaterals played in India and Asia, in general, but Amla has been unstoppable all over the world and has broken every single milestone-record that Kohli has set-up.

Don't bring T20s into this. Amla has been one of the best batsmen of the last decade in test cricket with plenty of superb innings under pressure. However, that apparently isn't enough to remove his choker tag. Ditto with AB. I don't see how Kohli's T20 exploits can be used to justify his failures under pressure in ODIs.

The last CT final was a T20 match, by the way.



You clearly can't read. The Kohli fan above me mocked Amla and AB, despite Kohli being a bonafide choker in ODIs as well.

Amla is the bonafide choker. You are just being a blind supporter if you can't admit that. Kohli may not have the greatest record in in icc tournaments but he's not as bad as Amla LOL.

 

[Bilal7]

Amla is the bonafide choker. You are just being a blind supporter if you can't admit that. Kohli may not have the greatest record in in icc tournaments but he's not as bad as Amla LOL.

Yes, he's worse. Next time don't get into a discussion when you have no knowledge of the topic at hand.

 

[Hasan123]

Yes, he's worse. Next time don't get into a discussion when you have no knowledge of the topic at hand.

Literally your the only person on this forum who can't see Amla is a choker, and I'm the clueless one? LOL

 

[Rayyman]

Literally your the only person on this forum who can't see Amla is a choker, and I'm the clueless one? LOL

I don't think Amla is a choker. He is a great player who just hasn't done well in a certain amount of big matches.

 

[Hasan123]

I don't think Amla is a choker. He is a great player who just hasn't done well in a certain amount of big matches.

He's failed in nearly every big icc tournament match. He's a choker.

 

[Smbhayi]

He's failed in nearly every big icc tournament match. He's a choker.

scored fifty vs India on a high scoring match. scored 40odd runs vs Eng on a low score thriller. Scored 30 odd vs pak on another low score thriller. that's in top of my head.
the point is most of the time he get out against run of play and sometimes pure unlucky, and sometimes due to pressure.

 

[Hasan123]

scored fifty vs India on a high scoring match. scored 40odd runs vs Eng on a low score thriller. Scored 30 odd vs pak on another low score thriller. that's in top of my head.
the point is most of the time he get out against run of play and sometimes pure unlucky, and sometimes due to pressure.

Yes but to not have one significant match winning knock in an icc tournament match is very poor.

 

[Mamoon]

Yes, he's worse. Next time don't get into a discussion when you have no knowledge of the topic at hand.

At least Kohli scratched his way to a century against Pakistan, the most high-profile and widely watched group match of the World Cup. On the other hand, Amla's both hundreds have come against associate nations. Two World Cups and not a single hundred - fluent or scratchy - against a non-associate team, which says it all really. Having said that, all the best to Amla and I hope he finally delivers this time.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

Who are those some? I don't recall any expert ever putting Amla down as an ODI bat.

As T20 yes, he was never considered by experts as a serious threat but I guess SA might reconsider about his spot in T20 team after his twin century in IPL.

 

[Bilal7]

At least Kohli scratched his way to a century against Pakistan, the most high-profile and widely watched group match of the World Cup. On the other hand, Amla's both hundreds have come against associate nations. Two World Cups and not a single hundred - fluent or scratchy - against a non-associate team, which says it all really. Having said that, all the best to Amla and I hope he finally delivers this time.

Amla's half century against India in India was a better innings than Kohli's century against a Pakistani attack in which Riaz was the best bowler. He's definitively not done anything great in WCs but it's not like he's the only modern-day great who has failed to live up to expectations in the WC. AB has been below par and Kohli has downright failed. Kohli hasn't even done anything of note against the minnows in WCs, which is truly choking and his farcical "innings" in the last semi-finals will only be erased with a match-winning KO innings in the next WC. Good luck to them both.

 

[MenInG]

On a good streak atm - needs to get a good score again today...

 

[MenInG]

And another 50 from Amla....

 

[captain crook]

Hopefully he can convert this into a big one.. my fantasy captain..

 

[czar]

Brilliant innings so far.

 

[Ab Fan]

Turning out to be one of his better innings as far as odis are concerned.

 

[Pollack]

Amla is a terrific player. Of course he may be an accumulator but there is a scope for accumulators in every team. At the end of day they also contribute in the victory.

 

[Mobashir]

Literally your the only person on this forum who can't see Amla is a choker, and I'm the clueless one? LOL

Amla a choker? Not at all!
An absolute brilliant ODI batsman.

 

[shaz619]

Doing decently in his first game of a tournament [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION]

 

[Bewal Express]

Amla will def fail in CT.

 

[Hasan123]

Amla a choker? Not at all!
An absolute brilliant ODI batsman.

Well played today, but overall he is a choker in icc tournaments.

 

[Haz95]

Amla will def fail in CT.

Amla is his first CT game...103. #awks.

 

[Mamoon]

What have Pakistan and Rozay daar people have anything to do with his hundred why so personal, did Amla not give you an autograph or something

Do you classify all cricket fans the same way just because they like to be entertained by class or are you just angry that he is scoring runs because you don't like holy people

Nothing personal of course, I'm just happy for Pakistani fans and everyone else around the world who is fasting.

He is an inspiration to all of them and after years and years of disappointment, I am glad that he has finally managed to put a smile on their faces after finally managing to register a hundred against a non-Associate team in an ICC tournament.

 

[HinderTheJinder]

He got a bit slow at the end of his inning in order to get a hundred

 

[Hawkeye]

Well played today, but overall he is a choker in icc tournaments.

Lol, by that logic Kohli is a big choker in world cups. Worse record than Amla.

 

[shaz619]

Nothing personal of course, I'm just happy for Pakistani fans and everyone else around the world who is fasting.

He is an inspiration to all of them and after years and years of disappointment, I am glad that he has finally managed to put a smile on their faces after finally managing to register a hundred against a non-Associate team in an ICC tournament.

You say nothing personal before congratulating people who are pakistani and fasting, I don't get why that has anything to do with his class on the pitch a brilliant hundred which deserves applause and nothing else

 

[Mamoon]

Lol, by that logic Kohli is a big choker in world cups. Worse record than Amla.

Amla = Hundreds vs Ireland and Netherlands

Kohli = Hundreds vs Pakistan and Bangladesh

I know what I prefer.