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When I was a child, I used to watch these films.

Films about an evil force that rose to power and swept across Europe. Films about wicked and powerful men who believed that they were better than everyone else. Films about armies invading and occupying. Films about soldiers patrolling the streets and demanding: “Ihre Papiere, Bitte” — Your Papers, Please. Films about people who lived in terror, afraid to even whisper about what they really thought. Films about ruthless men who abducted people from their homes and shipped them away to far-off prison camps to die.

As I grew up, I learned the history behind these films.

In 1938, Adolf Hitler marched Nazi troops into Austria. Almost the whole world remained silent while Hitler annexed Austria. A few months later, the Nazis annexed the Sudetenland — with the agreement and approval of the world! Then came Kristallnacht — the night of broken glass — the first Nazi pogrom against the Jews.

Today, we stand witness while the ideological children of Nazi Germany stage an annexation of their own. In India, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh — a fascist paramilitary inspired by the Nazis — has risen to power.

The RSS has already conducted its pogroms while the world stood silent. In 2008, they massacred Christians. In 2002, they slaughtered Muslims. Under the watch of Narendra Modi, thousands of Muslims in Gujarat were brutalized, gang-raped, beaten to death, hacked to pieces, and burned alive by the RSS.

The blood of these innocent victims continues to cry out from the ground for justice.

Yet how was Modi punished for overseeing that pogrom? Instead of punishment, Modi was rewarded with the office of Prime Minister of India. Now the RSS rules the roost.

The RSS — these people who believe that they are better than everyone else — has swept across India. Journalists have been assassinated. Minorities have been lynched in the streets in broad daylight. Those who raise voices of dissent have been seized and thrown behind bars. Under Modi’s regime, writes Indian professor Anand Teltumbde, the RSS has “unleashed the Hindutva gangs to carry out its writ reminiscent of the Black-shirts of Mussolini and Brown-shirts of Hitler.”

Three weeks ago, the world watched as the RSS implemented one of the top items on its agenda with the most grotesque and shameless tyranny imaginable.

As Modi trashed the Indian Constitution and tore up the contract between India and Kashmir, he marched tens of thousands of troops into that small northern region — a region approximately the same size as Austria. Eighty-one years after Hitler’s Anschluss, Modi annexed Kashmir. Now, Kashmir bleeds as it suffers oppression like never before.

Oppression is nothing new in Kashmir — a place which has a vast history of subjugation, enforced disappearances, staged encounters, mass rapes, massacres, and mass graves. Generation after generation of Kashmiris have grown up in a land where abnormal is normal — a land where the people live in fear. A land where ruthless men abduct people from their homes and take them away, never to be seen again.

The weight of the oppression in Kashmir is illustrated by the life and death of Jalil Andrabi. Andrabi, a Kashmiri human rights attorney, wanted to warn the world. Andrabi said, “The magnitude of the atrocities and the crimes being perpetrated on the people of Kashmir is both macabre and heart breaking.” Andrabi reported, “More than 40,000 people have been killed, which includes all — old, men and children, woman, sick and infirm. The youth of Kashmir have been mowed down. They are tortured in torture cells and as result of this, thousands of youth have been killed in police custody.”

But what happens to human rights activists in Kashmir?

What happened to Andrabi? In 1996, days before he was scheduled to speak at the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva, Andrabi was abducted by the Indian Army. Twenty days later, his body, tied up in a sack, washed ashore on the Jhelum River. His hands were tied behind his back, eyes gouged out, facial bones crushed. He had been killed with a gunshot to the head.

That was over twenty years ago, when Kashmir still had constitutionally guaranteed autonomy. That was before Modi. And that was before the annexation that took place on 5 August.

Since the annexation, Modi’s regime has dropped an iron curtain over the entire Kashmir.

His regime has mass arrested the entire civil society— politicians (both mainstream and separatist), religious leaders, businessmen, heads of industry, teachers, academics, activists, teenagers, and even children as young as 10 or 11 years old. These people are seized without arrest warrants. They are held without charges. They are not brought to trial — they can’t be because they’re not being charged with anything! Many have even been shipped away to far-off prisons.

The situation is not much better for those who have not been arrested. For three weeks, Kashmir has been under siege. The whole region is under curfew as people are forbidden to leave their homes. Kashmiris are living in an open air prison. Under Modi’s regime, the Kashmir has been turned into a massive concentration camp.

But perhaps the greatest atrocity of all is the communications blackout. Since 5 August, Kashmiris all around the world have been denied the ability to contact their loved ones back home — even just to ask, however briefly, “Are you alive?” This is mental torture.

As Modi conducts his monstrous colonial project, many Kashmiris fear that India wants the land of Kashmir without the people of Kashmir.

Meanwhile, Kashmiris are muzzled. They are suffocating, unable to find any room to breathe as the boot of oppression presses down upon their throats.

Some people say that the Kashmir Issue is a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan. Some people say that the issue is an internal affair of India. I say that the issue is one of Kashmiris and what they want for Kashmir. Kashmiri voices — and Kashmiri voices alone — are the voices which matter when deciding the future of Kashmir.

Yet Kashmiris have been rendered voiceless by oppression. So today, I stand here in protest to demand that the voices of Kashmir be restored. To those who refuse to raise their voices for the voiceless, I say — silence is consent.

Fifty-six years ago, the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. sat writing a letter in the Birmingham, Alabama jail. “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere,” he wrote. Seventy-three years ago, a German pastor who survived a Nazi concentration camp wrote something similar. Pastor Martin Niemoller wrote:

“First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.”

Speak out for the Kashmir.

-Pieter Friedrich
https://m.facebook.com/pieterjamesfriedrich/photos/a.1868815803333140/2365348847013164/
 
The common Indian is now is facing 1% of what Kashmiris having been facing since decades.

They thought it wont be done to them. That it simply cannot be done to them because they are the real countrymen while Kashmiris are some barbarians living beyond the Himalayas on the edge of the world.

Well, it has just begun to happen to them now. And they're not liking it.
 
Well, it has just begun to happen to them now. And they're not liking it.

You do not know much Indian history. We have had separatists movements in the North East and Punjab. We have had Maoist violence for 50 years. Dacoits were common in Central India 40 - 50 years ago. Indian democracy survived the Congress imposed Emergency about 40 years ago. The recent times are actually rather peaceful, hysteria about the RSS and Modi notwithstanding.
 
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The common Indian is now is facing 1% of what Kashmiris having been facing since decades.

They thought it wont be done to them. That it simply cannot be done to them because they are the real countrymen while Kashmiris are some barbarians living beyond the Himalayas on the edge of the world.

Well, it has just begun to happen to them now. And they're not liking it.

During hard quarantine months last year, I was at home, with beach views from my living room, food, water, internet... All I did during that time was get free money, netflix, play Witcher/Divinity OS2 and sleep. Yet, it was hard as hell. Whenever I was outside, each time a police officer asked of "motive", I was irritated.

Can't imagine how Kashmiris hold their nerve in such oppressing atmosphere.
 
You do not know much Indian history. We have had separatists movements in the North East and Punjab. We have had Maoist violence for 50 years. Dacoits were common in Central India 40 - 50 years ago. Indian democracy survived the Congress imposed Emergency about 40 years ago. The recent times are actually rather peaceful, hysteria about the RSS and Modi notwithstanding.

You forgot millennias of oppressing lower castes.

That's another medal for Bharat's 56 inch chest.
 
You do not know much Indian history. We have had separatists movements in the North East and Punjab. We have had Maoist violence for 50 years. Dacoits were common in Central India 40 - 50 years ago. Indian democracy survived the Congress imposed Emergency about 40 years ago. The recent times are actually rather peaceful, hysteria about the RSS and Modi notwithstanding.

Today's news in peaceful times:

"Three Indian Army men arrested for allegedly abducting, molesting minor Bandipora girl"

https://kashmirbylines.com/2021/02/...dly-abducting-molesting-minor-bandipora-girl/
 
During hard quarantine months last year, I was at home, with beach views from my living room, food, water, internet... All I did during that time was get free money, netflix, play Witcher/Divinity OS2 and sleep. Yet, it was hard as hell. Whenever I was outside, each time a police officer asked of "motive", I was irritated.

Can't imagine how Kashmiris hold their nerve in such oppressing atmosphere.

It is not without the cost of mental peace. We have high number of depression cases. Per capita cigarette smoking in Kashmir is probably the highest in Asia. Mental health is an overlooked problem in this conflict zone.
 
You do not know much Indian history. We have had separatists movements in the North East and Punjab. We have had Maoist violence for 50 years. Dacoits were common in Central India 40 - 50 years ago. Indian democracy survived the Congress imposed Emergency about 40 years ago. The recent times are actually rather peaceful, hysteria about the RSS and Modi notwithstanding.

I like how the use of the word hysteria throws the blame back onto the victims, nice touch.
 
The common Indian is now is facing 1% of what Kashmiris having been facing since decades.

They thought it wont be done to them. That it simply cannot be done to them because they are the real countrymen while Kashmiris are some barbarians living beyond the Himalayas on the edge of the world.

Well, it has just begun to happen to them now. And they're not liking it.

You guys are being utterly dehumanized in India, indians will do kahniyas on you but this is just what I feel is happening with you guys
Anything bad on you guys won't be looked at as the same cause you guys are dehumanized

Something similar (abiet on a smaller scale) was done to Pashtun pop in Pak during the terrorism era
 
RSS are a paramilitary force? You mean 50+ year old malnourished uncles wearing oversized Chaddis are a paramilitary force? :asif
 
You guys are being utterly dehumanized in India, indians will do kahniyas on you but this is just what I feel is happening with you guys
Anything bad on you guys won't be looked at as the same cause you guys are dehumanized

Something similar (abiet on a smaller scale) was done to Pashtun pop in Pak during the terrorism era

Kashmir problem is religious problem. Any separatist movement based on religion will not find supporters in free world. Kashmiris should realize this and give it a rest.
 
Yea started by a Muslim so he must be Pakistani lol? Even if his location says India :))

He may be an Indian Muslim, so what?

Surely Pakistanis are so concerned about India and the RSS that they should have gone and voted in their millions in the poor chap's poll? :))

A brave Indian Muslim starts an online campaign against the evil RSS and what support does he get from Islam ke thekedars? Zilch!

So come on , Pakistan, you can do better than that :rp
 
RSS are a paramilitary force? You mean 50+ year old malnourished uncles wearing oversized Chaddis are a paramilitary force? :asif

Of course they are a paramilitary force. They make the Waffen SS look like angels. Don't you know that anyone who disagrees with 'the narrative' is a facist and a terrorist? Never mind even if they are potbellied uncles in their 50s. Either they are with the narrative or they are terrorists. :)
 
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RSS are a paramilitary force? You mean 50+ year old malnourished uncles wearing oversized Chaddis are a paramilitary force? :asif

Of course they are a paramilitary force. They make the Waffen SS look like angels. Don't you know that anyone who disagrees with 'the narrative' is a facist and a terrorist? Never mind even if they are potbellied uncles in their 50s. Either they are with the narrative or they are terrorists. :)

Is everyone in RSS old? I have seen pictures of younger members. Including some where some young females are being trained with swords and guns.

With that said, would Muslims be allowed to have a similar group like the RSS, where they get similar training?

As in a Muslim group that believes in Ghazwa-e-Hind, would they be allowed to train like the RSS?
 
There is a difference between what Hitler did and what is happening in India.

German Nazism arose due to the aftermath of world war one. The building blocks of its creation were present for at least a few decades before. The first synagogue was burnt in the late 1800's. So anti semitism was present long before. unfortunatley the jewish population mis judged the mood and also didnt see what could happen to them. Afterall they lived as germans. were by all intents and purposes german. They were part of society. So when real pressure took hold in germany it furst effected the left. The German right wing came after the socialists, the trade unionists and other softer left movements.

And it was all done by a upper class who wanted to ensure their hold on power remained strong. These were the older aristocrats generals and wealthy. they saw Hitler as a puppet they could control. So they used him to destroy the left and the liberals. however they didnt realise that Hitler had his own agenda.

So lets look at the similarities:

1) xenophobia as aprty policy
2) extreme nationlaism and the use of "othering" to weaken the opposition
3)the destruction of the left
4) the active demonisation and attack on a minority
5) using democracy to change laws and make it hard for minorities or opponents
6) a foreign bogeyman used to further create hate and division internally

the differences:

1) there has been no major conflaguration that has destroyed the economy. (covid can be recovered from)
2) Indias neighbours will not appease it and can stand up to it
3) India does not have the same military superiority over its neigbours as the germans did
4) The neighbourhood has nuclear weapons
5) Muslims are not like the Jews. Sooner or later they will fight back.
6) India has two enemies that are capable of defeating it in a war.
7) the world community doesnt want a nuclear confrontation.

Yes there are big similarities but we have to see how far these thugs are willing to go. My suspicion is they are cowards and other than Kashmir will back down in other areas.

Already they have backdown in front of the Chinese so they can go back to harassing Pakistan but that game has also evolved and changed.

Ultimately it is up to a credible alternative to bring down the RSS and the BJP. And only Indians can do this if they want.
 
The caveat to all the above is if the Indian economy is destroyed or is affected by a major event/war/natural disaster. The all bets are off
 
Is everyone in RSS old? I have seen pictures of younger members. Including some where some young females are being trained with swords and guns.

With that said, would Muslims be allowed to have a similar group like the RSS, where they get similar training?

As in a Muslim group that believes in Ghazwa-e-Hind, would they be allowed to train like the RSS?

Muslims are part of RSS, and they also get to train like others. RSS is secular in its nature.
 
The caveat to all the above is if the Indian economy is destroyed or is affected by a major event/war/natural disaster. The all bets are off

Keep the wet dreams coming. :))

You are not getting Kashmir anyway, and no matter what you believe, Pakistan has never and can never beat India in a war.

And as for India backing down in front of China, well , if independent media (read not Pak propaganda) is to be believed, both countries are actually moving towards a settlement, and are both withdrawing.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...-begin-troop-withdrawal-from-contested-border

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ull-back-from-hand-to-hand-border-battle-zone

Can't you guys even get your propaganda going correctly?? :akhtar
 
Keep the wet dreams coming. :))

You are not getting Kashmir anyway, and no matter what you believe, Pakistan has never and can never beat India in a war.

And as for India backing down in front of China, well , if independent media (read not Pak propaganda) is to be believed, both countries are actually moving towards a settlement, and are both withdrawing.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...-begin-troop-withdrawal-from-contested-border

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ull-back-from-hand-to-hand-border-battle-zone

Can't you guys even get your propaganda going correctly?? :akhtar

As usual you bakhts get ther wrong end of my post. We are talking about a hypothetical scenario. I have already explained above how I dont think the RSS and Modi regime are exactly like Nazis. For them to follow that path they would have to face a major catastrophic event. hence my post above, but what you read was interesting and your insecure response was even more enlightening.

I see a couple of my statements really got your manhood triggered. it seems Indian internet warriors consistently worry about that alot.

Again in our neigbourhood there are two nations that can cause India major catastrophic damage. They are China and Pakistan because both have nukes.

But lets not distract from the obvious parallels with nazism which is what this thread is about.
 
Kashmir problem is religious problem. Any separatist movement based on religion will not find supporters in free world. Kashmiris should realize this and give it a rest.

No it is not. But Indian hindutvadi terrorists would like to present it as one.
 
You guys are being utterly dehumanized in India, indians will do kahniyas on you but this is just what I feel is happening with you guys
Anything bad on you guys won't be looked at as the same cause you guys are dehumanized

Something similar (abiet on a smaller scale) was done to Pashtun pop in Pak during the terrorism era

Absolutely. We know this already and we dont expect anything better from Indians. Whether RW OR LW OR centrists.

Always remember. Kashmir is the litmus test of every Indian liberal out there and they ALWAYS fail it.
 
Absolutely. We know this already and we dont expect anything better from Indians. Whether RW OR LW OR centrists.

Always remember. Kashmir is the litmus test of every Indian liberal out there and they ALWAYS fail it.

There are hardly any indian liberals. Just pseudos pretending to be. One indian liberal who had come back from a trip to srinagar told me that kashmiris are kitne bholay bhaley..really innocent people, it is those mullahs who brainwash them.
 
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