Are the players playing for Pakistan or only for fame and money?

[IAJ]

There are rumours everywhere about grouping in the squad and another big issue is the leaking of dressing rom talks to the media.

Just go back to 2007 where players apparantly took oath on Quran that the talk in dressing rom should stay there, but they had not left the ground before news about this oath taking were all over media.

Then you go forward to the grouping against Younis Khan where even Saaed Ajmal was forced to take part because he was new and wanted to secure his spot. And even that secret meeting between the players reached media in no time and Ajmal was even called by Younis Khan to his rom for explanation.

And jumping over to the ongoing WC Sarfraz apparantly had a serious talk with the players and even that talk was all over media very quickly. So there is a player og some players who is disturbing the dressing room’s atmosphere negatively.

So the players who are telling everything to certain journalists and the players who are into grouping and it also appears that Imad Wasim is leading that group against Sarfraz, are they really playing for their country??

The stuff from 2007 and Younis Khan has been admitted by players of that era so there are no doubts there. Is playing cricket for Pakistan a timepass joke?

 

[emranabbas]

Shoaib Malik is trouble trust me...

 

[hashimafzal]

I mean even if you are playing for yourself/fame/money, you should have some performances to show for it. If not, I guess you are just incompetent.

Look at how competitive spots are for T20 leagues around the world, you can argue that players participate in those due to financial motivations.

Even in those setups, they need to warrant places in the side, and will be dropped due to poor performances.

The players think they are entitled to play for Pakistan or deserve it and that mentality really needs to stop.

 

[Savak]

Indian, Australian, English players get paid 10 times more and have more fame, glamour. It hasn't affected their performances.

Why does it affect Pakistani players only? Is it just the fact our players for the most part come from poor backgrounds who have no idea how to handle the fame, money, adulation?

 

[MMHS]

Both - on top of that, they are playing to justify own spot, which is the worst syndrome in a team game. Hafeez & Malik are mentoring them quite well how to master that art.

 

[IAJ]

I mean even if you are playing for yourself/fame/money, you should have some performances to show for it. If not, I guess you are just incompetent.

Look at how competitive spots are for T20 leagues around the world, you can argue that players participate in those due to financial motivations.

Even in those setups, they need to warrant places in the side, and will be dropped due to poor performances.

The players think they are entitled to play for Pakistan or deserve it and that mentality really needs to stop.

I agree with you and it seems like some players underperform at times. And just calling the team unpredictable is not enough. You need to find out why the team is unpredictable. Sick snd tired of this phrase: «which pakistani team will show up today?» When same players win Champions Trophy, same players defeat the mighty England, how can they suddenly become useless next match? Are players underperforming?

 

[Jabo]

Fame

 

[MMHS]

Indian, Australian, English players get paid 10 times more and have more fame, glamour. It hasn't affected their performances.

Why does it affect Pakistani players only? Is it just the fact our players for the most part come from poor backgrounds who have no idea how to handle the fame, money, adulation?

Nothing - they just know that, they need to give enough "exhibits" for PCB (& it's CS) to carry on them.

Forget average, economy, strike rate etc. - this PAK side has lost 21 out of 25 games against WC opponents in last 8 months, and of the 4 wins, 2 are against depleted SAF team - trust me, even genuine minnow like AFGs or Ireland would have reacted on that by chopping half of the squad & sacking Captain - playing/leading for National team or in WC is a privilege, a status. In reality, I knew at least 12-13 of the 15 players that Ul Haq is going to select for WC.

 

[hitthestump]

The stuff from 2007 and Younis Khan has been admitted by players of that era so there are no doubts there. Is playing cricket for Pakistan a timepass joke?

Any links for this?

 

[PakLFC]

There has always been grouping in the side. Even during the 70's Miandad And Zaheer were not on speaking terms. They are playing for Pak coz e have no one better at the moment. Shoaib Malik is the trouble maker in the side trying to influence matters. Any other side would have thrown someone like him out many years back.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Any links for this?

Har lumha purjosh. 17/06/19 episode I think it is. Saeed Ajmal admitted it.

 

[HussainRx8]

Fame and money. Even Hasnain, who hasn't played more than 5 FC games, has a brand management agent.

 

[The Yorker]

Indian, Australian, English players get paid 10 times more and have more fame, glamour. It hasn't affected their performances.

Why does it affect Pakistani players only? Is it just the fact our players for the most part come from poor backgrounds who have no idea how to handle the fame, money, adulation?

Agreed these players from poor backgrounds have very limited vision and cannot see the bigger picture. They are overawed being in the UK and their trips to the curry mile in Manchester mean more to them than playing cricket. They forget it’s their cricket that allows them their fame. They need coaching classes in how to deal with fame, money and the responsibilities they have as Pakistani international cricketers.

 

[IAJ]

Any links for this?

https://youtu.be/P_Tb64aJAfM

 

[hitthestump]

https://youtu.be/P_Tb64aJAfM

Thanks for this.

Imagine being prepared to oust a player like Ajmal due to your ego. Astagfirullah.

It will take generations to undo this poison from our people.

 

[Savak]

All teams and players play for money, fame, adulation. No one plays for free. The difference is other teams have the philosophy play hard and party harder whereas our players only focus on the last bit only. This is why you need to have stress, competition in the system so that no one takes their spot for granted, the players should be scared of knowing that if they get dropped, there is no coming back.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I don't get it. How do you attract fame or money by failure?

I think OP has it wrong way round, seems like Pakistan players must be playing for obscurity and poverty.

 

[Captain caveman]

Its in our blood!
Double crossing people to gain wealth and their position.
Real blood brothers do it all the time in pak. Know so many cases in my own extended family, where one brother has double crossed his own brother to steal all the inheritance.
And these cricketers aren't even related!
So the answer to OP's question is that they are using playing for pak as a way to a means.
The means being wealth and fame!

 

[Saj]

The reality is that the priority for many is T20 leagues and the fame and fortune that comes with that.

 

[Savak]

The reality is that the priority for many is T20 leagues and the fame and fortune that comes with that.

Hence why Wasim Akram is correct in demanding the PCB to restrict issuing NOC's to Pakistani players and demanding that the requirement be set that NOC's will only be issued if they have played and competed in first class cricket. A balance has to be found where we do not end up jeopardizing other boards refusing to send their players to the PSL

 

[hashimafzal]

The reality is that the priority for many is T20 leagues and the fame and fortune that comes with that.

But even of that is the priority, shouldn't you still be able to score runs for your team? You could argue that De Villiers is the embodiment of the so-called "mercenary" of world cricket, but I'd still have more faith in him to score runs than anyone else in our playing XI.

Even if your motivation to play is purely financial, you need to produce on the field or you should be ousted. No one would play cricket if it wasn't for the money involved. No one wants to play for free.

Bottom line is there should be some sort of motivation to produce at the highest level. Our players are fine with being completely ordinary.

 

[aukhan]

Fame and money is part and parcel for international cricketers. The careless and lazy attitude they show in the ground is what makes you angry. Our players lack professionalism and have no educational or professional background and that's the only way to describe the way they play.

 

[sweep_shot]

They are professionals. I think they care more about money than fame. Everyone wants financial security.

Having said that, players shouldn't become too greedy. Balance is required. Look at what Steyn did. He played in IPL and injured himself. His injury turned out to be catastrophic for South Africa.

 

[asfandyar]

We talk about these things after every debacle. Then nothing happens? Why? Because words can be ignored. A good protest, however, can't.

 

[Sunzi]

Not even playing for fame. That is almost a self-entitled belief/right for the players courtesy of the passion generated by fans for players in the Pakistan Shirt

They're seemingly playing for money and an easy life. Overseas tours, particularly countries like England, are like an all expenses paid holiday... again seemingly.