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Well, let's just recap the issues in reverse order.

1. Umar Akmal just had series ODI scores of 48, 16, 36, 7 and 43 - a total of 150 runs at an average of 30. He was dropped down the order to where batsmen have to take risks.

2. It's obvious that he remains more gifted than any other Pakistani batsman, but he's out of shape and as he tires he plays excessively high-risk slogs.

3. Going back to his international debut he has always been the same - more talented than the rest, but lazy and inconsistent. But his QEA, PSL and now ODI performances this season show that his technique remains absolutely intact.

Mickey Arthur is frustrated. You're frustrated. I'm frustrated.

And yet we all know that if Pakistan finds itself struggling against the bowling of Cummins-Starc-Hazlewood or Boult-Southee, then the only batsman with the hand-eye coordination, bravery and technique to rescue Pakistan from 120-4 in the 30th over are Babar Azam or Umar Akmal. Nobody else is capable.

So Pakistan now faces a dilemma.

They can either devote the next 10 weeks to getting Umar Akmal fit and firing, or they can throw him back overboard and prefer someone who is fitter but less capable of surviving and scoring off top bowlers.

I remember football's 2002 World Cup. Ronaldo was overweight and unfit and had barely played for 18 months. But Brazil knew that he could score goals that nobody else could, so they didn't persecute him for his terrible diet or his lazy fitness regimen, they just gave him an all-day personal trainer for 2 months and ended up with him winning the World Cup for them.

But it looks as if Pakistan would instead prefer to say "we gave him every chance to get fit and he didn't take it and that's his fault so we won't pick him".

The problem is, England said that about their creative midfield genius Paul Gascoigne at the 1998 World Cup. He had been their star in 1990 and 1996 and his performance in Rome had got them to the World Cup. But subsequently David Beckham had emerged. They didn't need an overweight unfit midfield general. Or so they thought.

Until Beckham got himself sent off against Argentina in the World Cup Quarter Final. Suddenly England desperately needed the one Englishman who could keep possession. Gazza. But they hadn't picked him. The rest is history.

Pakistan is at the same crossroads that Glenn Hoddle found himself at with Gazza.

If they leave out their most gifted batsman, well he deserves it.

But they'd do far better to get him fit rather than to cast him aside!
 
Question really is what is he doing to stay in the side?
 
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We are obsessed with Umar Akmal. Pakistan severely lacks aggressive batsmen like him that can score with proper cricket shots. Having said that, like ever before he has not shown any change. His methods of dismissal are exactly the same.

If you look around the world at gifted batsmen like Akmal, such as kohli, Vince, and rohit Sharma. They all had a tendency to go hard at balls way outside the off stump. Kohli and sharma worked hard on their weaknesses with the Indian team. But look at Vince, he rarely gets a chance for England but has improved on his weakness so much. Akmal does not have it in him to work on his weaknesses.
 
And yet we all know that if Pakistan finds itself struggling against the bowling of Cummins-Starc-Hazlewood or Boult-Southee, then the only batsman with the hand-eye coordination, bravery and technique to rescue Pakistan from 120-4 in the 30th over are Babar Azam or Umar Akmal. Nobody else is capable.

When was the last time Akmal actually did this against a decent attack?
 
We should have allowed Umar Akmal to play at number 3 or 4 to see his true peformance
 
He's still one of our most talented players, nobody else in the team can absolutely clobber the bowlers like he does and with proper cricketing shots.

It would be great to play him as an opener.

Will make use of the power play like nobody else can.
 
Regardless of what number he batted . . he had a chance every time he went out to bat to close out games! to make a difference . . to play smart! he also had enough overs to bat . . fact of the matter is, he didnt! As simple as that . . and with Umar Akmal . . there HAS ALWAYS been an excuse!
 
I’m at least 3 out of 5 matches Umar had 30 plus overs to bat. In the first two matches Pakistan batted first and he needlessly gave his wicket away . In one match Pakistan needed just over a run a ball and again he needlessly gave his wicket away.!

I think he was given every opportunity to Perform but he failed to play a substantial innings either whilst chasing or batting first .

He was given every chance ! No excuse .
 
He had his chances and he has completely wasted them. form is not his issue , even on his best day he will give chances to the opposition without a fail. 5 out of 5 times he has got out trying to play a hoick.
 
where did this "most gifted and most talented" tag ever come from?

throughout his career, he never has been or will be mentally and physically fit enough for International cricket.

Waiting for Sarfraz to come back and sort out all this nonsense! :bash:
 
I like how you call yourself an englishman every now and then but still take interest in our cricket team.

Anyways, umar akmal is a lost cause, thr guy is no savior. He got his chances.

The only role that could be given to him if he plays as a finisher. If he cant do that than no need.

150 in 5 games is a score that even asif ali can make. And at a much quicker rate aswell.
 
I’m at least 3 out of 5 matches Umar had 30 plus overs to bat. In the first two matches Pakistan batted first and he needlessly gave his wicket away . In one match Pakistan needed just over a run a ball and again he needlessly gave his wicket away.!

I think he was given every opportunity to Perform but he failed to play a substantial innings either whilst chasing or batting first .

He was given every chance ! No excuse .

Op thinks its only justified to consider umars performance if they come in a situation where 50 runs are needed in 100 balls.

Even if umar scores nothing in that he will then praise about the bowlers musculanity or bash haris sohail. Or infact even bash the past playerd because they probably brainwashed and did jadoo on umar akmal as the real umar akmal doesnt do this
 
He's still one of our most talented players, nobody else in the team can absolutely clobber the bowlers like he does and with proper cricketing shots.

It would be great to play him as an opener.

Will make use of the power play like nobody else can.

Been saying this to friends since 2015 WC. He can be our Rohit Sharma. Plays fast bowlers very well and the field restrictions will help him a lot. It is worth a try especially if Fakhar Zaman is out of form but probably it is too late now.
 
I like how you call yourself an englishman every now and then but still take interest in our cricket team.

Anyways, umar akmal is a lost cause, thr guy is no savior. He got his chances.

The only role that could be given to him if he plays as a finisher. If he cant do that than no need.

150 in 5 games is a score that even asif ali can make. And at a much quicker rate aswell.

I doubt it. 150 in 5 games (against quality sides) is too much for Asif Ali.
 
Been saying this to friends since 2015 WC. He can be our Rohit Sharma. Plays fast bowlers very well and the field restrictions will help him a lot. It is worth a try especially if Fakhar Zaman is out of form but probably it is too late now.
[MENTION=138016]natkhat-shahzada[/MENTION] You're very right. However, Mickey and Sarfraz aren't shrewd enough to think outside to box and be creative.

So it isn't gonna happen, sadly.
 
Question really is what is he doing to stay in the side?
Actually no.

It’s like the Test tour of South Africa: you need him more than he needs you.

He reminds me a lot of Quinton De Kock: spoilt, unintelligent, lazy but gifted.

Pakistan just let Umar Akmal get fat and then drop him. Whereas South Africa recognise that they need De Kock and they just took away all his autonomy and endlessly drilled him into shape until he actually accepted what he had to do.

You can exclude Umar Akmal, and he will deserve it.

But you’ll lose. Badly.

You’d be better off just getting him fit.
 
I sometimes secretly wish that Umar had some talent with the ball like Afridi, Hafeez and Malik. He could have been a regular in the side as an allrounder option. Look at Malik, 20 years of mediocrity but still valued in the team. I cannot recall Malik ever played a clutch innings under pressure. He is so poor playing fast bowling. Even Mohammad Hafeez is a very average batsman but has played over 200 matches for Pakistan.
 
You guys are deluded. The guy got plenty of opportunity to play an innings but every time it was crucial timing he went for a slog and gave away his wicket. It’s not his scores but how he got out and the match situation at the time. Each time he could have taken Pakistan home yet he threw away his wicket. He needs to be kicked out once and for all.
 
Actually no.

It’s like the Test tour of South Africa: you need him more than he needs you.

He reminds me a lot of Quinton De Kock: spoilt, unintelligent, lazy but gifted.

Pakistan just let Umar Akmal get fat and then drop him. Whereas South Africa recognise that they need De Kock and they just took away all his autonomy and endlessly drilled him into shape until he actually accepted what he had to do.

You can exclude Umar Akmal, and he will deserve it.

But you’ll lose. Badly.

You’d be better off just getting him fit.

Well clearly he doesn’t want it does he? Do you want a player like that in the team! If anything he should take ownership of his own fitness and work hard but clearly he lacks the discipline to do it. He’s not fully committed to the cause and hence shouldn’t be in the team. We have plenty of people who have the right attitude and want to be in the team and this guys clearly doesn’t.
 
lol at qdk being lazy and unintelligent. The guy puts his life on the line for SA everytime he plays. He is at least ten levels ahead of Akmal.
 
I wanna see what Umar Akmal can do in the England before drawing any conclusions but I don't think he will get that chance since the squad selection has to be confirmed by 23 April. I hope Pakistan can take him and Asif Ali to the WC.

As [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] has mentioned, we'll lose badly because without the duo there is no firepower from number 4 to number 6 in the batting order. Whilst I appreciate it's a gamble since they haven't delivered in their last ODI series but it would be unjust to judge good batsman against pace merely on the basis of runs in the UAE.

I rather see a batting line up that has a chance to challenge for 330-350 batting first and chase such totals when required. Even with our best accumulator; Babar Azam and the likes of Haris, Rizwan and etc are not going to help reach such totals. One of the reasons why our batting culture has always been so weak is because we value stability and experience as evident. This was one of the biggest reasons why Pakistan were dropped outside the top 8 with Misbah & Waqar as captain and coach combo.

If Pakistan's bowling was top notch then perhaps I'd settle for an all accumulator batting line up but the truth of the matter is the bowling is just as bad, if not worse when you consider Pakistan's spin stocks in LOIs are probably at an all-time low.
 
We need to move on from him. He had enough chances and couldn't do anything. Also, there is nothing to suggest that things will change. So why waste one spot on a TTF rather than giving a chance to a youngster?
 
Umar Akmal is not being treated properly, he is struggling due to lack of proper support staff. PCB should appoint a separate specialist batting coach, specialist fielding coach, specialist fitness trainer, specialist media manager for him and he will give our team a quick fire 13 runs in the world-cup.

Fans will realize his true value when PCT team will be needing 40 runs in 60 balls with 5 wickets in hand and nobody will be there to fill energy and thrill in that kind of boring matches.
 
I've come to the sad conclusion that it would take a failed World Cup for people to finally throw him into the coffin.

So let's take him and prove to the remaining blind fans and to himself that he belongs in the T20 joke only.

Nothing more, nothing less.
 
Hes done more to warrant a place in the side than Shoaib Malik has.
 
How the hell those pathetic scores account for a place in world cup?
 
I've come to the sad conclusion that it would take a failed World Cup for people to finally throw him into the coffin.

So let's take him and prove to the remaining blind fans and to himself that he belongs in the T20 joke only.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Sorry, this was already proved 4 years ago in the last World Cup...
 
I think he has more chance of sneaking into this world cup squad as compared to Asif Ali.
 
Request people to support Pakistan not make your team suffer by suggesting this guy. Don't know how many careers U. Akmal has destroyed during his stay in Pak team for 7 years doing nothing.

He again failed the fitness test and is seen chilling in Akon concert in Dubai which was on the exact same date as ODI. Yeh to haal hai. If an Australian or Englishman was found doing during active duty this he would be charged in a disciplinary offence.

Selectors should lose their jobs for inducting U. Akmal for this series in the first place. If PSL was the basis check stats. Sohail Akhtar[139], Asif Ali[182] had a better strike rate than him[137]. And Ahmed Shehzad, Fakhar outscored him yet were'nt picked.

This politics of keeping U. Akmal in the team to destroy our chances needs to end.
 
I think he has more chance of sneaking into this world cup squad as compared to Asif Ali.

Than I won't watch the world cup same as this series, and I know I'm not the only one. PTV looked like a laughing stock as it lost sponsors during this tournament.

If thy allow CS Inzamam to do what he wants long-term damage would be done to Pakistan cricket board as no one would care to see this team.
 
I really did not understand the point of Mickey’s statement after the series. Why create the innuendo and confusion about selection.

If you can say 14 players have booked their ticket to the World Cup, just say their names as well. I mean why the secrecy and all that. Tht way people and everybody can stop speculating about the player/players still in consideration.

He knows how everything everything pakistan cricket is decided upon in the court of public opinion. This is wreaking havoc everywhere.

Either he should have stayed quiet and should not have dropped any hints or he should have come outright and mentioned the names.

I expect a lot of bickering, fighting, arguing here and on Pakistan news channels from here till April 23 ..
 
Than I won't watch the world cup same as this series, and I know I'm not the only one. PTV looked like a laughing stock as it lost sponsors during this tournament.

If thy allow CS Inzamam to do what he wants long-term damage would be done to Pakistan cricket board as no one would care to see this team.

My friend, I have to bare the torture of watching Imam ul Haq, Shoaib Malik and also Shinwari bowl. If someone gets injured then the torture of Mohammad Rizwan who will be slotted in. Umar Akmal is still entertainment value on and off the field with his antics.
 
My friend, I have to bare the torture of watching Imam ul Haq, Shoaib Malik and also Shinwari bowl. If someone gets injured then the torture of Mohammad Rizwan who will be slotted in. Umar Akmal is still entertainment value on and off the field with his antics.

So U. Akmal should be in the team so that we can enjoy Page 3 shenanigans rofl. This is not street team it is Pakistan team. And he has shown he has no value on the field as well.

He has poor fitness, can't hit shots on all four sides. Has only one region where he tries to hit, skies the bowl and gets out. Fielding wise also a dud.
 
So U. Akmal should be in the team so that we can enjoy Page 3 shenanigans rofl. This is not street team it is Pakistan team. And he has shown he has no value on the field as well.

He has poor fitness, can't hit shots on all four sides. Has only one region where he tries to hit, skies the bowl and gets out. Fielding wise also a dud.

Its actually a very interesting point but tbh I wouldn't mind it as long as he does not create a toxic atmosphere in the dressing room. We definetly lack genuine characters, either the very charismatic ones or the absolute banter players. He is an interesting guy
 
So U. Akmal should be in the team so that we can enjoy Page 3 shenanigans rofl. This is not street team it is Pakistan team. And he has shown he has no value on the field as well.

He has poor fitness, can't hit shots on all four sides. Has only one region where he tries to hit, skies the bowl and gets out. Fielding wise also a dud.

It's the closest team in professional cricket you'll find to a street side when you find it is led by an uncharismatic individual with a gully mohalla mindset.
 
Pakistan needs both Umar Akmal and Asif Ali. We lack firepower in the batting department and it is going to cost us.
 
Umar Akmal has Played the last 2 world cups and Many other crunch matches. However he gets out suddenly by playing a mindless shot, He is highly unreliable & can't play a long innings. In other words he is never set and like a ticking bomb can fail at any moment. Hence after 121 Odi he has only scored 2 hundreds. on the other hand Rizwan & Haris Scored 2 hundreds in a single series.

In 2015 World cup Umar Akmal kept getting out when his team desperately needed him. Quick runs are useless if you can't stay at wicket.
 
He is as bad as Asif Ali. However, with Asif's better fitness, he should edge out UA for the WC squad.

Both are extremely unreliable but sadly that is what we have to play with.
 
Well, let's just recap the issues in reverse order.

1. Umar Akmal just had series ODI scores of 48, 16, 36, 7 and 43 - a total of 150 runs at an average of 30. He was dropped down the order to where batsmen have to take risks.

2. It's obvious that he remains more gifted than any other Pakistani batsman, but he's out of shape and as he tires he plays excessively high-risk slogs.

3. Going back to his international debut he has always been the same - more talented than the rest, but lazy and inconsistent. But his QEA, PSL and now ODI performances this season show that his technique remains absolutely intact.

Mickey Arthur is frustrated. You're frustrated. I'm frustrated.

And yet we all know that if Pakistan finds itself struggling against the bowling of Cummins-Starc-Hazlewood or Boult-Southee, then the only batsman with the hand-eye coordination, bravery and technique to rescue Pakistan from 120-4 in the 30th over are Babar Azam or Umar Akmal. Nobody else is capable.

So Pakistan now faces a dilemma.

They can either devote the next 10 weeks to getting Umar Akmal fit and firing, or they can throw him back overboard and prefer someone who is fitter but less capable of surviving and scoring off top bowlers.

I remember football's 2002 World Cup. Ronaldo was overweight and unfit and had barely played for 18 months. But Brazil knew that he could score goals that nobody else could, so they didn't persecute him for his terrible diet or his lazy fitness regimen, they just gave him an all-day personal trainer for 2 months and ended up with him winning the World Cup for them.

But it looks as if Pakistan would instead prefer to say "we gave him every chance to get fit and he didn't take it and that's his fault so we won't pick him".

The problem is, England said that about their creative midfield genius Paul Gascoigne at the 1998 World Cup. He had been their star in 1990 and 1996 and his performance in Rome had got them to the World Cup. But subsequently David Beckham had emerged. They didn't need an overweight unfit midfield general. Or so they thought.

Until Beckham got himself sent off against Argentina in the World Cup Quarter Final. Suddenly England desperately needed the one Englishman who could keep possession. Gazza. But they hadn't picked him. The rest is history.

Pakistan is at the same crossroads that Glenn Hoddle found himself at with Gazza.

If they leave out their most gifted batsman, well he deserves it.

But they'd do far better to get him fit rather than to cast him aside!

good post. Problem is Pakistan's coach is not one who can take a talent to another level; look at what he did with Abid Ali and Saad Ali.
 
Well, let's just recap the issues in reverse order.

1. Umar Akmal just had series ODI scores of 48, 16, 36, 7 and 43 - a total of 150 runs at an average of 30. He was dropped down the order to where batsmen have to take risks.

2. It's obvious that he remains more gifted than any other Pakistani batsman, but he's out of shape and as he tires he plays excessively high-risk slogs.

3. Going back to his international debut he has always been the same - more talented than the rest, but lazy and inconsistent. But his QEA, PSL and now ODI performances this season show that his technique remains absolutely intact.

Mickey Arthur is frustrated. You're frustrated. I'm frustrated.

And yet we all know that if Pakistan finds itself struggling against the bowling of Cummins-Starc-Hazlewood or Boult-Southee, then the only batsman with the hand-eye coordination, bravery and technique to rescue Pakistan from 120-4 in the 30th over are Babar Azam or Umar Akmal. Nobody else is capable.

So Pakistan now faces a dilemma.

They can either devote the next 10 weeks to getting Umar Akmal fit and firing, or they can throw him back overboard and prefer someone who is fitter but less capable of surviving and scoring off top bowlers.

I remember football's 2002 World Cup. Ronaldo was overweight and unfit and had barely played for 18 months. But Brazil knew that he could score goals that nobody else could, so they didn't persecute him for his terrible diet or his lazy fitness regimen, they just gave him an all-day personal trainer for 2 months and ended up with him winning the World Cup for them.

But it looks as if Pakistan would instead prefer to say "we gave him every chance to get fit and he didn't take it and that's his fault so we won't pick him".

The problem is, England said that about their creative midfield genius Paul Gascoigne at the 1998 World Cup. He had been their star in 1990 and 1996 and his performance in Rome had got them to the World Cup. But subsequently David Beckham had emerged. They didn't need an overweight unfit midfield general. Or so they thought.

Until Beckham got himself sent off against Argentina in the World Cup Quarter Final. Suddenly England desperately needed the one Englishman who could keep possession. Gazza. But they hadn't picked him. The rest is history.

Pakistan is at the same crossroads that Glenn Hoddle found himself at with Gazza.

If they leave out their most gifted batsman, well he deserves it.

But they'd do far better to get him fit rather than to cast him aside!

If Umar Akmal won you were world cup or took you to one of the finals single handedly then you can probably say yes an overweight Umar Akmal is still better than the others. But since Umar has played in 2 world cups already and did nothing of note in his prime years, I doubt he will be of any help in the 3rd world cup this year.
 
The thing is. He will be a wasted talent. It will continue to happen again and again.
Umer Akmal never took his talent and cricket seriously
 
When was the last time Akmal actually did this against a decent attack?

He doesn't do it that often, but he has done it. Problem for Pakistan is that there are doubts over the rest of them whether they can do it at all. Thats' the only reason he keeps getting brought back into the fold, none of the others have made the spot their own.
 
Put Hafeez at 6 and he'll do a much better job than Umar


Umar should open
 
Lol love how Junaids compare Umar Akmal with every troubled sportsman. :)))

If he gets selected cool, if not we go again. I would like to see him play a specific role instead of changing positions every game.
 
umar akmal knew he won't be picked for wc. and said that if he is gonna go, might as well go with a bang. top stuff from akmal
 
You are comparing this hack to Ronaldo????? Ronaldo was one of the greatest of all time. Even when he got fat he was still a good player.

Akmal has been failing fitness test for years now. No more excuses.
 
Umar should go Sohail Tanvir way and become globe trotter T20 specialist. He is a good striker and will be in demand in bbl,cpl,psl,bpl etc. His test and ODI career is done and dusted.
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Two back to back hundreds by the most dynamic batsman in Pakistan. In the premier one day tournament.

It's being played on good pitches - ENG will have even better pitches.

Glad we're out of those pathetic UAE pitches, and it's showing again... boy's on a roll.
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Two back to back hundreds by the most dynamic batsman in Pakistan. In the premier one day tournament.

It's being played on good pitches - ENG will have even better pitches.

Glad we're out of those pathetic UAE pitches, and it's showing again... boy's on a roll.

Oh gosh you jinxed him! Whilst do believe an inform firing Umar Akmal can be a asset to Pakistan, to call him the most dynamic batsman in Pakistan is an overstatement.

His List A average is 35 and he only has 6 Hundreds over all in List A cricket. Thats a very mediocre record no matter which way you look at over a sample of 200 plus games. That might just be his ceiling.
 
[MENTION=138016]natkhat-shahzada[/MENTION] You're very right. However, Mickey and Sarfraz aren't shrewd enough to think outside to box and be creative.

So it isn't gonna happen, sadly.

Sadly true, sarfaraz mickey, shoaib and imad. They all are script readers. I remember Imran/javed sent iqbal Qasim a tailender at no 4 in tests and it worked. I strongly believe that akmal should have tried as an opener despite all his shortcomings as still he is the best in team who can play against fast.

If you analyze the series against SA (odis+t20s) and Australia, Pakistan could've won by little tactical shifting in batting numbers.

I also think that too much influence & interruption of the coach is harming the captainship qualities of every Pakistani captain.
 
Oh gosh you jinxed him! Whilst do believe an inform firing Umar Akmal can be a asset to Pakistan, to call him the most dynamic batsman in Pakistan is an overstatement.

His List A average is 35 and he only has 6 Hundreds over all in List A cricket. Thats a very mediocre record no matter which way you look at over a sample of 200 plus games. That might just be his ceiling.

Please don’t let facts get in the way of a good opinion
 
Well, let's just recap the issues in reverse order.

1. Umar Akmal just had series ODI scores of 48, 16, 36, 7 and 43 - a total of 150 runs at an average of 30. He was dropped down the order to where batsmen have to take risks.

This is a lie. He had an opportunity to build an innings in 4/5 games. He just failed every time he took a risk. Which almost defeats the purpose of having him. If he wants to nudge around then he isn't of any use to us.

1st: 31.1 Overs. Got a start but threw it away.
2nd: 32.3 Overs. Failed.
3rd: 29.2 Overs. Another start threw it away. Good opportunity to show us he could do a rescue act.
4th. 8.5 Overs. Only time he didn't have an opportunity to build an innings. But this game was asking for him to finish it. Walked in needing 60 off 53 but failed miserably.
5th: 26.3 overs. Another start thrown away. Another opportunity to show he can win/finish a match. Got out when Pakistan needed 90 runs off 10.3 overs with 7 wickets in hand.

So really what that shows us is that he scored soft impact-less runs. For an impact player, he wasted 3 good opportunities to finish a match. And failed twice when he had 30+overs to build an innings of substance.

I like Umar Akmal. He was brilliant and uncomplicated when he first arrived. But now he is one controversy away from embarrassing himself. He hasn't contributed on the international stage in years. On merit, he is undeserving of a spot.

And comparing him to Ronaldo is laughable. Ronaldo was the best footballer in the world between 97 and 2002. Umar Akmal isn't even the best cricketer in his family.
 
This is a lie. He had an opportunity to build an innings in 4/5 games. He just failed every time he took a risk. Which almost defeats the purpose of having him. If he wants to nudge around then he isn't of any use to us.

1st: 31.1 Overs. Got a start but threw it away.
2nd: 32.3 Overs. Failed.
3rd: 29.2 Overs. Another start threw it away. Good opportunity to show us he could do a rescue act.
4th. 8.5 Overs. Only time he didn't have an opportunity to build an innings. But this game was asking for him to finish it. Walked in needing 60 off 53 but failed miserably.
5th: 26.3 overs. Another start thrown away. Another opportunity to show he can win/finish a match. Got out when Pakistan needed 90 runs off 10.3 overs with 7 wickets in hand.

So really what that shows us is that he scored soft impact-less runs. For an impact player, he wasted 3 good opportunities to finish a match. And failed twice when he had 30+overs to build an innings of substance.

I like Umar Akmal. He was brilliant and uncomplicated when he first arrived. But now he is one controversy away from embarrassing himself. He hasn't contributed on the international stage in years. On merit, he is undeserving of a spot.

And comparing him to Ronaldo is laughable. Ronaldo was the best footballer in the world between 97 and 2002. Umar Akmal isn't even the best cricketer in his family.

Can't deny the facts. He was given the whole series to prove himself and he failed miserably.

I can't even remember the last time he carried Pakistan over the finish line. I am still ridiculed by me friends as I called him a legend in the making when I saw him live at a tour game against Essex at Chelmsford when Pak toured England in 2010.
 
I agree Umar should stick to only T20 but comparing him to Asif Ali is overkill. Asif Ali is a certified hack. Umar has decent technique, his issues are more mental. He is a low iq player just like Imran Nazir. Imran Nazir in full flow was incredible to watch but due to low cricketing intelligence he played too many bad shots and his career was derailed.
 
This is a lie. He had an opportunity to build an innings in 4/5 games. He just failed every time he took a risk. Which almost defeats the purpose of having him. If he wants to nudge around then he isn't of any use to us.

1st: 31.1 Overs. Got a start but threw it away.
2nd: 32.3 Overs. Failed.
3rd: 29.2 Overs. Another start threw it away. Good opportunity to show us he could do a rescue act.
4th. 8.5 Overs. Only time he didn't have an opportunity to build an innings. But this game was asking for him to finish it. Walked in needing 60 off 53 but failed miserably.
5th: 26.3 overs. Another start thrown away. Another opportunity to show he can win/finish a match. Got out when Pakistan needed 90 runs off 10.3 overs with 7 wickets in hand.

So really what that shows us is that he scored soft impact-less runs. For an impact player, he wasted 3 good opportunities to finish a match. And failed twice when he had 30+overs to build an innings of substance.

I like Umar Akmal. He was brilliant and uncomplicated when he first arrived. But now he is one controversy away from embarrassing himself. He hasn't contributed on the international stage in years. On merit, he is undeserving of a spot.

And comparing him to Ronaldo is laughable. Ronaldo was the best footballer in the world between 97 and 2002. Umar Akmal isn't even the best cricketer in his family.

Such a good sensible post with facts and rationale. You will find however that Akmal fans never reply to posts like this. They will make sweeping statements like ‘oh but he is our only batsman capable of taking on the bowlers. Oh but hafeez and malik are worse than him. Oh look, he scored in domestic cricket again’ etc
 
This is a lie. He had an opportunity to build an innings in 4/5 games. He just failed every time he took a risk. Which almost defeats the purpose of having him. If he wants to nudge around then he isn't of any use to us.

1st: 31.1 Overs. Got a start but threw it away.
2nd: 32.3 Overs. Failed.
3rd: 29.2 Overs. Another start threw it away. Good opportunity to show us he could do a rescue act.
4th. 8.5 Overs. Only time he didn't have an opportunity to build an innings. But this game was asking for him to finish it. Walked in needing 60 off 53 but failed miserably.
5th: 26.3 overs. Another start thrown away. Another opportunity to show he can win/finish a match. Got out when Pakistan needed 90 runs off 10.3 overs with 7 wickets in hand.

So really what that shows us is that he scored soft impact-less runs. For an impact player, he wasted 3 good opportunities to finish a match. And failed twice when he had 30+overs to build an innings of substance.

I like Umar Akmal. He was brilliant and uncomplicated when he first arrived. But now he is one controversy away from embarrassing himself. He hasn't contributed on the international stage in years. On merit, he is undeserving of a spot.

And comparing him to Ronaldo is laughable. Ronaldo was the best footballer in the world between 97 and 2002. Umar Akmal isn't even the best cricketer in his family.

This, couldn't have put it better myself.
 
This is a lie. He had an opportunity to build an innings in 4/5 games. He just failed every time he took a risk. Which almost defeats the purpose of having him. If he wants to nudge around then he isn't of any use to us.

1st: 31.1 Overs. Got a start but threw it away.
2nd: 32.3 Overs. Failed.
3rd: 29.2 Overs. Another start threw it away. Good opportunity to show us he could do a rescue act.
4th. 8.5 Overs. Only time he didn't have an opportunity to build an innings. But this game was asking for him to finish it. Walked in needing 60 off 53 but failed miserably.
5th: 26.3 overs. Another start thrown away. Another opportunity to show he can win/finish a match. Got out when Pakistan needed 90 runs off 10.3 overs with 7 wickets in hand.

So really what that shows us is that he scored soft impact-less runs. For an impact player, he wasted 3 good opportunities to finish a match. And failed twice when he had 30+overs to build an innings of substance.

I like Umar Akmal. He was brilliant and uncomplicated when he first arrived. But now he is one controversy away from embarrassing himself. He hasn't contributed on the international stage in years. On merit, he is undeserving of a spot.

And comparing him to Ronaldo is laughable. Ronaldo was the best footballer in the world between 97 and 2002. Umar Akmal isn't even the best cricketer in his family.

Cracking post . He had 5 matches and plenty of time to play a few good Knocks. He didn’t even pass 50 once !

Actually wait he should open . As that is the only excuse left now .
 
2 matches 2 match winning innings even in domestic there won't be such innings from other batsmen.
Malik and Hafeez are both on their way out with others not secure aswell Akmal still has a future with Pakistan.
 
I think they the PCB are hoping he'll come good. All the possible opportunities to shine are being given to him before the WC squad is announced. Had we readily available replacements this would not be happening. Our middle order is incredibly weak with a lack of options.
 
Exclude it is as they haven't named him in the 23 probables.
 
Would Akmal have made a difference to Pakistan’s World Cup campaign?

He's better than hafeez, however he gives his wicket away by playing a shot in the v area-usually against spin.

I won't want him back in the team - I believe Pakistan should look for someonr who is younger - but not too young, so he can part of thr future.
I will have haris at 4 so he can play with babar - take most of thr overs up- and have hafeez replacement at 5
 
I think Pakistan should move on from Umar Akmal. With the arrival of players like Babar, Pakistan should try to include consistent players.
 
Akmal would probably done the same as Hafeez in terms . Score big once after giving a life and then for the remaining innings getting out to careless shots . The only difference is Hafeez two innings one against Nee Zealand and one against Afghanistan were painstakingly slow which ultimately affected Pakistan’s runate . Akmal even on worse day would have scored quicker .
 
Akmal would probably done the same as Hafeez in terms of scores . Score big once after giving a life and then for the remaining innings getting out to careless shots . The only difference is Hafeez two innings one against New Zealand and one against Afghanistan were painstakingly slow which ultimately affected Pakistan’s runate . Akmal even on worse day would have scored quicker .
 
Akmal would probably done the same as Hafeez in terms . Score big once after giving a life and then for the remaining innings getting out to careless shots . The only difference is Hafeez two innings one against Nee Zealand and one against Afghanistan were painstakingly slow which ultimately affected Pakistan’s runate . Akmal even on worse day would have scored quicker .

I think difference between Hafeez and Umar is Hafeez can contribute with part-time spin. Umar can't and hence he becomes a bigger liability.
 
Umar is always better than Asif Ali at batting and fielding prolly at bowling as well
 
When someone mentions Umar Akmal:

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Stop flogging an over weight, talentless, brainless dead horse, someone is also gonna mention Ahmed Shahzad in a few winks.
 
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