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This was shared today, 11 hours ago.

News breaking out Fakhar may be out of Tri Series and Asia cup. So Babar likely replacement

If true, well I am simply ready to just give up on this team and Hesson. Enough is enough! We finally head on the right track with a full set of aggressive minded players only for this donkey to brought back to the T20 side to castrate its progression!

If Fakhar is out, find a left handed middle order batter or opener. If he was to bat at 3, then look for guys who actually took the responsibility at 3 for their sides like Abdullah Shafique did for LQ!

Bring in Naeem, Nafay or Yasir Khan. Bring in a proper T20 batter!
 
Both Babar and Rizwan will be back soon and rightly so.

This little new era drama propagated by 0 IQ clowns has come to an end. It is a myth that the post Babar and Rizwan T20 team has an aggressive mindset. They got beautifully exposed in Bangladesh and WI and the PCB realized that it was all hogwash.
 
If Babar is back in the team, forget any chances of winning the worldcup. Rinse and repeat. I dont know when will get rid of this cancer from our cricket.
 
But if he comes back and shows his auqat in Asia Cup and tri-series and gets booted before world cup then go for it.
 
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I have a feeling if Babar and Rizwan ever return it would be like the return of Shezzy and Uakmal in the t20I series which led to their permanent removal from Pakistan cricket. :yk2
 
Slim said:
If Babar is back in the team, forget any chances of winning the worldcup. Rinse and repeat. I dont know when will get rid of this cancer from our cricket.
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Never baby! Never! Long live RizBar! 152-0 heroes. Pak fans should be grateful to their heroes!
 
Sachin fan said:
Nor does Fakhar who has worse stats than both of them. All of their best formats are ODIs
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You guys need to start watching cricket rather then viewing cricinfo. This is a huge issue with all biased indians on the forumn.

Fakhar's 91 of 46 vs aus to win the tri series is > Babar and Rizwan's entire t20 career excluding their 10 wicket win vs India which tops it. However that innings was an accumulative innings where they played it safe to beat india,

Not a brutal display.

Fakhar as a player is simply more aggressive then babar and rizwan. And will always be more aggressive even if stats don't tell you this.

Ab de villers in international t20 was a failure. He may have been an IPL superstar but he was garbo in international t20, 26 avg and 135 sr in over 78 games.

In comparison Hashim Amla in t20 has better stats, a 32 avg and a 132 sr, slightly lower sr at a much better avg, yet no one in their right mind would put amla ober de villers in a t20 team.

Fakhar is the same, Worse avg then ba and riz but slightly higher sr.

This is what happenes when dumb dumbs stick in cricinfo stats.

You guys should focus on listening to @Rana At times. This guy gets way too much hate despite being right 90% of the time. 2 years later ba/riz aint in the team 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
 
mominsaigol said:
You guys need to start watching cricket rather then viewing cricinfo. This is a huge issue with all biased indians on the forumn.

Fakhar's 91 of 46 vs aus to win the tri series is > Babar and Rizwan's entire t20 career excluding their 10 wicket win vs India which tops it. However that innings was an accumulative innings where they played it safe to beat india,

Not a brutal display.

Fakhar as a player is simply more aggressive then babar and rizwan. And will always be more aggressive even if stats don't tell you this.

Ab de villers in international t20 was a failure. He may have been an IPL superstar but he was garbo in international t20, 26 avg and 135 sr in over 78 games.

In comparison Hashim Amla in t20 has better stats, a 32 avg and a 132 sr, slightly lower sr at a much better avg, yet no one in their right mind would put amla ober de villers in a t20 team.

Fakhar is the same, Worse avg then ba and riz but slightly higher sr.

This is what happenes when dumb dumbs stick in cricinfo stats.

You guys should focus on listening to @Rana At times. This guy gets way too much hate despite being right 90% of the time. 2 years later ba/riz aint in the team 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
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I simply have stopped putting value to Indian's opinions. Nothing they say really matters. Fakhar is a class above Babar and Rizwan is is a vital player to Pakistan's squad. It showed for example in the first t20I against Windies.
 
mominsaigol said:
You guys need to start watching cricket rather then viewing cricinfo. This is a huge issue with all biased indians on the forumn.

Fakhar's 91 of 46 vs aus to win the tri series is > Babar and Rizwan's entire t20 career excluding their 10 wicket win vs India which tops it. However that innings was an accumulative innings where they played it safe to beat india,

Not a brutal display.

Fakhar as a player is simply more aggressive then babar and rizwan. And will always be more aggressive even if stats don't tell you this.

Ab de villers in international t20 was a failure. He may have been an IPL superstar but he was garbo in international t20, 26 avg and 135 sr in over 78 games.

In comparison Hashim Amla in t20 has better stats, a 32 avg and a 132 sr, slightly lower sr at a much better avg, yet no one in their right mind would put amla ober de villers in a t20 team.

Fakhar is the same, Worse avg then ba and riz but slightly higher sr.

This is what happenes when dumb dumbs stick in cricinfo stats.

You guys should focus on listening to @Rana At times. This guy gets way too much hate despite being right 90% of the time. 2 years later ba/riz aint in the team 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
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One off innings doesn't prove anything at all. Fakhar as an opener or even middle order bat doesn't start well in t20s at all and wastes a lot of balls.

There has been enough sample till now, including all the leagues he has played in, he is one of the least consistent batsmen and wastes a lot of balls every time.

You don't have to choose between Amla or Babar or Rizwan and Fakhar, all of who are/were poor T20 batsmen, surely in the big country you have a proper t20 batsman?
 
Sachin fan said:
One off innings doesn't prove anything at all. Fakhar as an opener or even middle order bat doesn't start well in t20s at all and wastes a lot of balls.

There has been enough sample till now, including all the leagues he has played in, he is one of the least consistent batsmen and wastes a lot of balls every time.

You don't have to choose between Amla or Babar or Rizwan and Fakhar, all of who are/were poor T20 batsmen, surely in the big country you have a proper t20 batsman?
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Don't keep changing goal posts over and over and learn to accept that you make mistakes and are wrong.

Fakhar is a poor t20 batter fine. But dont compare him to 2 other poor t20 batters, who unlike fakhar aren't suited to t20. Fakhar fails but in odi and certain t20 exploits its clear he is more destructive then Ba/Riz

Like I said Will you pick Amla over Ab de villers in a t20 team.

You changed goalposts for that Australia final claim as well. Dont make such mistakes, you are a better poster then this.

Don't put yourself on a level where people have spend hours reading and interpreting what you insunuitate or imply since they wont be able to decipher your crappie English cough Devad cough.
 
I don’t want Babar and Rizwan in the team right now. I love Babar, truly, but for me, Pakistan cricket comes first.

The truth is, Babar hasn’t been in his element for a long time. And I’m sorry to say this, but he’s one of the few players I’ve seen who, when cornered by fans or critics, doesn’t respond with his bat. He looks lost, almost like a scared kitten under pressure. If anyone’s expecting his return to spark a turnaround—thinking he’ll play with fire in his belly to prove a point—they’re likely going to be disappointed.

The problem with Babar is that he doesn’t seem to learn from his mistakes. There's this ego around him—this “King karlega” mindset—which stops him from evolving when needed.

As for Rizwan, I personally think he’s better suited for Test cricket, or at best batting at No. 5 in ODIs—strictly as a player, not as a captain. Appointing him as captain was probably one of the lowest points in recent PCB decisions.

Now, speaking about the team in general—this current Pakistan side is raw and fearless. They don’t care about milestones like fifties or hundreds, and honestly, that attitude brings tears to my eyes. It’s a refreshing change.

But with that fearlessness also comes a lack of experience. That’s exactly why we lost in Bangladesh. If Fakhar isn’t available, then we still need at least one senior batter who has solid experience. The issue is—Babar and Rizwan aren’t the right answers for that role right now.

We’ve done so much chopping and changing over the years that very few players have been around long enough to be considered experienced.
 
mominsaigol said:
Fakhar as a player is simply more aggressive then babar and rizwan. And will always be more aggressive even if stats don't tell you this.
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He is not, and the data proves it. If your aggression is not reflected in your stats, it can only mean one nothing, that your aggression is a misconception; it is an illusion. It is not a matter of a few matches, it is about 70 T20Is batting in the top 3 with a SR in the 120s. This clearly shows that Fakhar is not an aggressive top-order batsman in this format.

Babar and Rizwan have displayed the same level of aggression batting in the top 3 as Fakhar has, but they also score almost twice as many runs. If we remove the names from all three players and simply show stats to fans, no one would pick Fakhar over Babar/Rizwan, but once you put names on the stats, their predisposed bias kicks in.

It is clear that some people will not accept the fact that Fakhar is a completely ineffective top-order batsman in T20Is. This denial comes from a position of confusion - when you look at his record, you cannot explain why he has been so ineffective and so slow as a top-order batsman in T20Is. It doesn't make sense to you that someone who is capable of scoring 200 in ODIs and can hit dozen plus sixes on his day would be so slow in T20Is as a top-order batsman. Therefore, you are prompted to deny and dismiss it and argue that they don't reflect the reality, but unfortunately, they do reflect a reality that we must acknowledge.

In sports, what you can do in a hypothetical situation does not matter. The only thing that matters is what you actually do.
We need to realize that being aggressive in ODIs will not always translate to T20Is. For example, Dhawan was one of the finest ODI openers in the world between 2013 and 2021. However, he couldn't translate it into T20I cricket. On paper, there was no reason for him to be ordinary in T20Is when he was very good in ODIs, but it didn't happen for him.

Similar, there is no doubt that Fakhar is a really good ODI opener but he hasn't been able to crack the code in T20Is and if he couldn't do it after 70 matches and until the age of 35-36, there is little to suggest that he will flick the switch now. Therefore, picking him in those positions ahead of Babar and Rizwan is a folly, as both have done much better than him in those positions.

No one is saying that Fakhar should not be part of the team. The point is that play him where he has been the most effective in this format, and that is in the middle-order, not the top-order.
 
"Current Pakistan team is fearless"
"They don't care for milestones"
"They are aggressive and play modern cricket"

This drama will end soon, and it will end in tears. This will also be the hill on which Mike Hesson will die.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Pave the way??? Did they injure Fakhar on purpose???

MATLAB KUCH BHI...
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Was Fakhar injured during the 2023 World Cup when he came out and said he was fine throughout??? What’s the purpose of the PCB sharing this video of RizBar now??! Are they not relaying the grounds for their return knowing it’s not in favour with the fans atm??
 
“I'm from 2050 and yesterday a picture came of Babar Azam with PCB Chairman Sarfaraz and according to the report Babar Azam has returned to T20 before the 2051 World Cup Replacing injured Zain Fakhar. This will be Babar's 17th World Cup and so far he has zero six in WC powerplay.”
 
Rana said:
Was Fakhar injured during the 2023 World Cup when he came out and said he was fine throughout??? What’s the purpose of the PCB sharing this video of RizBar now??! Are they not relaying the grounds for their return knowing it’s not in favour with the fans atm??
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Fakhar said he is fine this time?
 
Rana said:
I don’t know, what I do know is it’s very convenient to have him injured apparently
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I doubt PCB is that desperate to bring Babar back. Fakhar genuinely has fitness issues now.

Babar needs to show Hesson he is willing to improve himself, before he is brought back. We can't have him stat-pad us to losses again.
 
Mamoon said:
He is not, and the data proves it. If your aggression is not reflected in your stats, it can only mean one nothing, that your aggression is a misconception; it is an illusion. It is not a matter of a few matches, it is about 70 T20Is batting in the top 3 with a SR in the 120s. This clearly shows that Fakhar is not an aggressive top-order batsman in this format.

Babar and Rizwan have displayed the same level of aggression batting in the top 3 as Fakhar has, but they also score almost twice as many runs. If we remove the names from all three players and simply show stats to fans, no one would pick Fakhar over Babar/Rizwan, but once you put names on the stats, their predisposed bias kicks in.

It is clear that some people will not accept the fact that Fakhar is a completely ineffective top-order batsman in T20Is. This denial comes from a position of confusion - when you look at his record, you cannot explain why he has been so ineffective and so slow as a top-order batsman in T20Is. It doesn't make sense to you that someone who is capable of scoring 200 in ODIs and can hit dozen plus sixes on his day would be so slow in T20Is as a top-order batsman. Therefore, you are prompted to deny and dismiss it and argue that they don't reflect the reality, but unfortunately, they do reflect a reality that we must acknowledge.

In sports, what you can do in a hypothetical situation does not matter. The only thing that matters is what you actually do.
We need to realize that being aggressive in ODIs will not always translate to T20Is. For example, Dhawan was one of the finest ODI openers in the world between 2013 and 2021. However, he couldn't translate it into T20I cricket. On paper, there was no reason for him to be ordinary in T20Is when he was very good in ODIs, but it didn't happen for him.

Similar, there is no doubt that Fakhar is a really good ODI opener but he hasn't been able to crack the code in T20Is and if he couldn't do it after 70 matches and until the age of 35-36, there is little to suggest that he will flick the switch now. Therefore, picking him in those positions ahead of Babar and Rizwan is a folly, as both have done much better than him in those positions.

No one is saying that Fakhar should not be part of the team. The point is that play him where he has been the most effective in this format, and that is in the middle-order, not the top-order.
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Failure =/= aggression. Your sr decreases if you fail yet babar has a high avg bit low sr which shows that he doesnt really strike it hard.

Like I said would you take amla > De villers in t20?
 
A very close journalist to RizBar also reporting Harris will be dropped for Rizwan for the UAE tour….


WTH are these guys doing?????

Your team is fine!!! Don’t destroy it with these stupid moves!!!
 
I think you are reading too much into the video. If anything Rizwan played much better in that match than Babar anyway.

However, a top quality coach like Hesson will want to give a player like Babar a go at some point. You can't cut a player like that loose permanently without a chance at redemption.

If Hesson introduces Babar on the proviso his role isn't to anchor as an opener and that he must play with more intent, then whats the big deal?

We just cannot return to the scenario where Rizwan and Babar feel it is there role to bat 14/20 overs, make few runs and then hope the middle and lower order can cash in. However, no harm in seeing if they fit into the side. In Rizwan's case its unlikely because he isn't that good a batsman, but Babar can be.
 
Saim and Farhan are set to open


What business do Babar and Rizwan have in the team in the middle order??!?!!!!!!??
 
Slim said:
I have a feeling if Babar and Rizwan ever return it would be like the return of Shezzy and Uakmal in the t20I series which led to their permanent removal from Pakistan cricket. :yk2
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This will never happen

After Hesson/Aqib… you can expect Misbah+Waqar mindset group to take over

They will bring these players in. Including Iftikhar and Haseebullah
 
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Rana said:
Saim and Farhan are set to open


What business do Babar and Rizwan have in the team in the middle order??!?!!!!!!??
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Babar is 90% confirmed to replace Fakhar for odi and any upcoming t20 series.

I have never spread any fake report even rumored ones unless im 100% sure this will happen.
 
I think the videos are just for views and dollars hence the timing right around the series. And they are in odi squad.

More than Babar, I am most concerned about a Rizwan come back as Haris has been doing himself no favors by constantly getting out in 3 balls or so. He had a huge chande to cement his t20 place and build a case for odi slot later but he has been bottling it.
 
Rana said:
A very close journalist to RizBar also reporting Harris will be dropped for Rizwan for the UAE tour….
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The journalists and certain mafia actually want Rizwan to be the T20I keeper and not Haris. While i love them both as Cricketers, Rizwan's place in this format is not deserved. We have better WK batters now like Haris.

Haris even scored a 100. He's being kept experimented with his batting positions and not being given enough chances. Whether it is done unintentionally or intentionally I do not know. I also remember how Wahab tied to gate keep Haris when he came in the T20I side after 2022 WT20. Haris was dropped for the New Zealand tour when he was in form.

It is clear that a large group of journalists, selectors, pcb back handlers and fans do not like Haris. This group of people is quick to give lollipop to the naive fans that 'Haris is inconsistent' without mentioning facts and contexts like his batting position fiasco, gate keeping and pressure from behind to get Rizwan in T20I side.

Even if the reports are false. They want to create a narrative that Haris is a failure and Rizwan is your best WK choice in the format.
 
mominsaigol said:
Failure =/= aggression. Your sr decreases if you fail yet babar has a high avg bit low sr which shows that he doesnt really strike it hard.

Like I said would you take amla > De villers in t20?
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Execution matters, not aggression or lack of aggression. The bottom-line is that as a top 3 batsman, Fakhar has similar SR to Babar and Rizwan but scores less than half the runs.

Therefore, there is no logic or justification for him to play ahead of Babar and Rizwan in the top-order in T20Is. Both wipe the floor with Fakhar as a top 3 T20I batsmen.

As far as Amla vs AB is concerned, they have batted at different positions. What is AB’s record as a T20I opener compared to Amla? And if AB was a huge under-performer in T20Is, whose fault is that?
 
The mental gymnastics people come up with to justify why a so-called super aggressive batsman like Fakhar has similar SR as Babar and Rizwan are very entertaining.
 
Mamoon said:
The mental gymnastics people come up with to justify why a so-called super aggressive batsman like Fakhar has similar SR as Babar and Rizwan are very entertaining.
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It’s as entertaining as you claiming Xabi Alonso had to sit out for Xavi just like Farhan has to sit out for Babar in the T20 team 🤡
 
Mamoon said:
Execution matters, not aggression or lack of aggression. The bottom-line is that as a top 3 batsman, Fakhar has similar SR to Babar and Rizwan but scores less than half the runs.

Therefore, there is no logic or justification for him to play ahead of Babar and Rizwan in the top-order in T20Is. Both wipe the floor with Fakhar as a top 3 T20I batsmen.

As far as Amla vs AB is concerned, they have batted at different positions. What is AB’s record as a T20I opener compared to Amla? And if AB was a huge under-performer in T20Is, whose fault is that?
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De villers was one down and sometimes an openers. In both positions he avg 25-26 and he failed.

Its a known fact that de villers was a failure in international t20 despite being a t20 superstar in IPL.

Hashim Amla was surprisingly superior in t20 then ab yet no one would pick amla > De villers in t20.

The same case is for amla and de villers. Amla has a higher avg, scored more runs and similar sr to de villers in international t20
 
mominsaigol said:
De villers was one down and sometimes an openers. In both positions he avg 25-26 and he failed.

Its a known fact that de villers was a failure in international t20 despite being a t20 superstar in IPL.

Hashim Amla was surprisingly superior in t20 then ab yet no one would pick amla > De villers in t20.

The same case is for amla and de villers. Amla has a higher avg, scored more runs and similar sr to de villers in international t20
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So what’s the conclusion, and how does this relate to Fakhar vs Babar? Why would you pick an inferior player in Fakhar?
 
Mamoon said:
So what’s the conclusion, and how does this relate to Fakhar vs Babar? Why would you pick an inferior player in Fakhar?
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Fakhar isnt inferior, thats the point, stats aren't everything. If they were babar wouldnt be out of the t20 team while Fakhar remains locked in(excluding T20)
 
mominsaigol said:
Fakhar isnt inferior, thats the point, stats aren't everything. If they were babar wouldnt be out of the t20 team while Fakhar remains locked in(excluding T20)
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BTW @Mamoon I don't disagree with what you are stating.

I disagree with replacing fakhar for babar.

Otherwise I agree fakhar needs to go obviously. Hes 35 and is wearing down. A replacement needs to be found considering how injury prone he is.

But babar isn't the answer in t20 fam.

In odi and test he should play remain however.
 
mon858 said:
I think the videos are just for views and dollars hence the timing right around the series. And they are in odi squad.
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So why not share a video of past ODI performances? Why specifically share a video of both opening in T20s? You don’t know how these snakes operate in the PCB. There is definitely more to this than what meets the eye.
 
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Rana said:
So why not share a video of past ODI performances? Why specifically share a video of both opening in T20s? You don’t know how these snakes operate in the PCB. There is definitely more to this than what meets the eye. They are laying the groundwork for those two k@n…rs to return.
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Pakistan really need to learn from AU to course correct. They never do.

Australia makes plenty of mistakes but rectifies them.

Persisting with Green, Inglis, Owen etc etc is the best decison they could make.

They kinda fumbled the bag with konstas, Jfm and Connely though.

Connely sucks by default, Jfm and Konstas have potential but aren't ready yet obviously.

We on the other hand seem to be unable to persist with the likes of Hasan Nawaz, Shahibzada Farhan, Mehran Mumtaz and are hell bent on choosing Babar, Rizwan and Abdullah at no cost.

God knows what these 3 have done to be such ladlei lol.

Australia is stubborn sure, considering they are persisting with Khawaja constantly, but they have course corrected in whiteball and will course correct in Red ball soon enough.

We are extremely outdated in test, 10 years behind in odi and are in the process of destroying what is currently being built and 20% ready.

Soon that 20% will revert back to 0%.
 
Everybody thought Babar is going to be the next Tendulkar, but man’s not even the best batter in his own handhan 🤡
 
What is the basis for picking Rizwan? Did he do well in the local masjid kids cricket tournament ?
 
mominsaigol said:
Fakhar isnt inferior, thats the point, stats aren't everything. If they were babar wouldnt be out of the t20 team while Fakhar remains locked in(excluding T20)
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He is vastly inferior to both Babar and Rizwan as an opener in T20Is. Both of them regularly outperform him in the PSL as well. Fakhar fans need to accept this.
 
mominsaigol said:
You guys need to start watching cricket rather then viewing cricinfo. This is a huge issue with all biased indians on the forumn.

Fakhar's 91 of 46 vs aus to win the tri series is > Babar and Rizwan's entire t20 career excluding their 10 wicket win vs India which tops it. However that innings was an accumulative innings where they played it safe to beat india,

Not a brutal display.

Fakhar as a player is simply more aggressive then babar and rizwan. And will always be more aggressive even if stats don't tell you this.

Ab de villers in international t20 was a failure. He may have been an IPL superstar but he was garbo in international t20, 26 avg and 135 sr in over 78 games.

In comparison Hashim Amla in t20 has better stats, a 32 avg and a 132 sr, slightly lower sr at a much better avg, yet no one in their right mind would put amla ober de villers in a t20 team.

Fakhar is the same, Worse avg then ba and riz but slightly higher sr.

This is what happenes when dumb dumbs stick in cricinfo stats.

You guys should focus on listening to @Rana At times. This guy gets way too much hate despite being right 90% of the time. 2 years later ba/riz aint in the team 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
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There is a difference between controlled aggression (Viv, Gilchrist to quote a few examples) and brainless hitting. Harris is nothing more than a brainless slogger, who tries to hit every ball in the air; who would fail in 4/5 games. This is simply unacceptable. Unless he improves and shows more consistency with the bat and gloves, he should be replaced by dineine better; even if that means Rizwan returning.
 
Both Rizwan and Babar are much much better than their replacements. They will be back. Mind they are still not world class T20 players, but much better than others in the team
 
mominsaigol said:
You guys need to start watching cricket rather then viewing cricinfo. This is a huge issue with all biased indians on the forumn.

Fakhar's 91 of 46 vs aus to win the tri series is > Babar and Rizwan's entire t20 career excluding their 10 wicket win vs India which tops it. However that innings was an accumulative innings where they played it safe to beat india,

Not a brutal display.

Fakhar as a player is simply more aggressive then babar and rizwan. And will always be more aggressive even if stats don't tell you this.

Ab de villers in international t20 was a failure. He may have been an IPL superstar but he was garbo in international t20, 26 avg and 135 sr in over 78 games.

In comparison Hashim Amla in t20 has better stats, a 32 avg and a 132 sr, slightly lower sr at a much better avg, yet no one in their right mind would put amla ober de villers in a t20 team.

Fakhar is the same, Worse avg then ba and riz but slightly higher sr.

This is what happenes when dumb dumbs stick in cricinfo stats.

You guys should focus on listening to @Rana At times. This guy gets way too much hate despite being right 90% of the time. 2 years later ba/riz aint in the team 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
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lol Fakhar is the most medicore T20i player along with others like Dhoni, Pant, Stokes etc. Atleast Dhone brings in wicketkeeping and leadership skills and Stokes brings in bowling. Fakhar is a decent ODI player but a mediocre after decade of playing T20i. Someone with 22 average at 131 after close to 100 international matches shouldn't be in contention for any slot. If he is, then it shows dearth of talent.

Ab de villers international T20I was a failed career.. There is no doubt about it. Not only he failed to make a name he choked in important matches including in IPL. That is why he as no trophy to showcase.

Same with Amla, who was just an accumulator. Not a single captain would take him in his all time great teams.

Statistics won't capture everything. There are always nuances, but when someone plays 100 T20Is in top order and averages 22 with 130 strike rate, that is absolute mediocre career and there is no further nuances to nitpick there.
 
SportsWarrior said:
lol Fakhar is the most medicore T20i player along with others like Dhoni, Pant, Stokes etc. Atleast Dhone brings in wicketkeeping and leadership skills and Stokes brings in bowling. Fakhar is a decent ODI player but a mediocre after decade of playing T20i. Someone with 22 average at 131 after close to 100 international matches shouldn't be in contention for any slot. If he is, then it shows dearth of talent.

Ab de villers international T20I was a failed career.. There is no doubt about it. Not only he failed to make a name he choked in important matches including in IPL. That is why he as no trophy to showcase.

Same with Amla, who was just an accumulator. Not a single captain would take him in his all time great teams.

Statistics won't capture everything. There are always nuances, but when someone plays 100 T20Is in top order and averages 22 with 130 strike rate, that is absolute mediocre career and there is no further nuances to nitpick there.
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How is fakhar a decent odi player? He's an ODI ATG? Issue is odi is a dead format now and I believe kohli will be considered the last odi atg.

T20 and test cricket is the future now.
 
Aaj ki taaza khabar, Pakistan Cricket Board have revealed that an elaborate plan is underway to orchestrate the prodigal return of “cover drive connoisseur” Babar Azam to the T20 side complete with soft launch tweets, nostalgic Instagram reels, and a carefully curated selection of bowling attacks from 2019.

PCB officials have been heard saying
“The T20 side clearly needs stability, consistency, and someone who can anchor the innings for 16 overs and let chaos unfold around him. Who better than Babar?”

Another official was overheard saying: “We just miss those beautiful 40 off 38s, man. There’s an art to it. It's like poetry, but with dot balls.”

As for fan reactions, Pakistani fans never known for subtlety are divided.

Pro-Babar camp: “Bring back the King. You can’t spell ‘Babar’ without ‘bar’ and we’ve set the bar so low, even he can step over it.” @Major @Mamoon

Anti-Babar camp: “Only if he agrees to bat at #9 and never speak in post-match interviews again.” @Rana @mominsaigol

Tag others according to these as usual as I just did the few obvious ones! 😆 🤣 😂

Rumors suggest PCB is working on a “Babar Comeback Documentary” titled “Strike Rate of Destiny”, narrated by Ramiz Raja, with background music composed by Coke Studio.

In other news, Mohammad Rizwan has been seen practicing solo in the nets muttering: “So I carry the whole team and still get benched, Masha'Allah ”
 
mominsaigol said:
Babar is 90% confirmed to replace Fakhar for odi and any upcoming t20 series.

I have never spread any fake report even rumored ones unless im 100% sure this will happen.
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Babar can't replace Fakhar in ODIs as Babar played the last ODI Pak played. You know what "replace" means, right.
 
Babar deserves to be back as he is a pure match winner whe he is on song. Granted he has underperformed recently but he is far better than tullas like Agha.
 
I am sure both riz and babar will be back in the t20 squad for the t20 world cup pcb selectors are known to make such decisions drop deserving players for such so called seniors in my view there is no place for riz and babar in t20 also agha the captain is not suited to t20 argument is his he better than riz babar in t20 I don't think so I have not seen him perform yet I would have picked Irfan khan niazi he has the x factor in his game in t20 they should consider someone young as a captain maybe saim he seems intelligent and speaks well
 
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