Are we looking at Hammad Azam 2.0 in Amad Butt?

[superfan]

I must admit I fail to see anything special in Amad Butt. I don’t think he is fast enough to trouble the top batsmen, nor does he swing the ball enough to keep the batsmen guessing. I can’t help but think of Hammad Azam every time I watch him play. Again, we’ve been extremely unlucky to have a dearth of genuine all-rounders at our disposal. We are banking on guys like Faheem Ashraf and Amad Butt to fill that void. The desperation is evident in the fact that we’re willing to take a chance on anyone who shows a glimpse of hope at the domestic level. I sure hope I am wrong when it comes to Amad Butt, but I won’t be holding my breath.

 

[Titan24]

Hammad Azam was a batting all rounder but couldnt average more than 28 in list A and also FC average wasnt that great untill recently and bowled between 125-130 kph mostly. Though I think he was discarded from the international scene too early when he was selected.

Amad is a bowling all rounder who can ball between 135-140 kph and can hit a few lusty blows with bat at the end.

So point being both are pretty different to each other and Amad's domestic record of his primary skill bowling is better than Hammad's primary skill which is batting.

Hammad's bowling wasnt good enough for a 5th bowler in LOIs and his batting wasnt as good as the specialist batsmen. For Amad difficulty would be to compete with other specialist pacers which are quite a few at the moment and perform as a bowler firstly in ODIs. In T20s even Amad's batting for 20 odd runs should be as good as some of the hitters we have tried.

 

[Barragan]

Yep, he will get hammered with the ball and isn't going to threaten anyone with his bowling.

He does have a power game to his batting, however I'm not sure if he is consistent enough to produce on a regular basis.

 

[Canistani Hero]

How can you shoot somebody down before they've made their debut -- PSL/National T20/Pak Cup are one thing - international cricket is a different phenomenon. Amad Butt is definetly quicker than Hammad -- Hammad is probably 125-130 kph -- where as Ammad is 130-135 kph, plus he's got good variations for LOE's -- he's really worked on his off-cutter which he can now successful execute without a change in action plus he is keen to bowl at the death -- where sure there will be times where he goes at 8-10 RPO but that's okay in T20's especially when he's still learning.

Between Aamer Yamin and Ammad Butt - we have to find a consistent bowling all-rounder and soon. and not Fahim Ashraf

 

[Ahson8]

Lol Amad is a far better bowler than Hammad ever was.

 

[Langau]

Will you guyz be happy if Ammad plays the 1st t20 and bowls at 140+ with getting couple of wickets And also score 25+ Runs from 10 balls?

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

How can you compare them? Amad Butt is a genuine fast bowler who is a bowler first.

Amad Butt is a strong guy and can slog a few, but bowling will always remain his main job.

How can you compare a bowler with a so called allrounder (more batsman) like Hammad?

 

[squanchy]

Pakistanis are amazing.

Steve Smith would be selling fruit chaat if he was Pakistani.

 

[Hawkeye]

If Amad can't bowl at 140kph consistently, he'll be quite useless.

I'm very skeptical of his batting abilities in particular. You can bet on these upcoming 'all-rounders' that 98% of them only know how to hoick it around on the leg side.

They don't have genuine scoring shots on the off side, and in particular fail against half-decent pace bowling.

Only useful against 3rd tier attacks who pitch it up, in the slot, for mid-wicket/cow corner slogs. Let's see what Amad can do, but keep your hopes low. Batting can be similar to Anwar Ali, but [MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION] says he has great scoring shots all around the park, so let's see.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

If Amad can't bowl at 140kph consistently, he'll be quite useless.

Ah yes, Ben Stokes (among many other medium pacers) is useless is he? You should become our bowling coach!

 

[ahmedzee]

I don't think he is Hammad 2.0. Hammad is a proper batsman who can ball.
Amad is Anwar Ali 2.0. Basically not a proper batsman and not a proper bowler. Bits and pieces.

Just like in the case of Anwar Ali, Hammad will fail.

A better thing would be to persist with Amir Yameen or Fakhar Zaman. Atleast they're proper bowlers who can bat occasionally.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

I disagree. Butt was hands down the best death bowler of the tournament in the Emerging Teams Asia Cup. He produced an absolutely insane death bowling spell under pressure in the most high pressure game in the tournament, the semi final versus India, who were favorites to win even at the 47th over. 22 runs needed off 24 balls with 4 wickets in hand, and he restricts them to 4 dots and 2 singles. Built pressure rewards a wicket in the next over and he comes back for the 50th. 8 runs needed off 6 balls one of the batsmen already set at 28 runs. A single boundary could turn the tables.

He comes out and produces 1 W 0 1 1 1, and clinches us the victory by 4 runs, i.e. one boundary and we wouldn’t be here drooling over Rohail Nazir’s tournament-winning 113 (111) in the final against Bangladesh.

His economy in this match was at an astonishing 4.30 over the 10 overs he bowled, better than Hasnain (6.10), Akif Javed (5.37) and Umer Khan (5.00) all of whom are VERY highly rated by PP.

So he deserves a chance, especially with Haris Rauf at the other end for the death overs. This guy shows amazing temperament under pressure and the ability to anticipate batsmen in high stakes matches, and has shown he can replicate those performances. Him and Haris bowling overs 17-20 could be the difference we need in the upcoming world T20, and at the very least Amad Butt deserves a run of at least 3 T20s to showcase his talent.

All of this combined with the fact that he can power hit down the order seals the deal for me. In the next match, the final of the tournament, he came in at number 7 halfway through the 49th over and scored 15 (7), with the first 5 of those through 4 balls of just rotating the strike effectively to the set batsman (something we desperately need our national team to learn, if you remember the the Pak-Australia T20s) - and doesn’t play a single dot ball in the process.

When Shakeel, the set batsman, gets out, he takes the strike and responsibility by himself in the last three balls of the 50th over to face Sumon Khan, one of Bangladesh’s upcoming prospects bowling at 140 with great outswingers and intelligence (one of their better bowling prospects in a long while), and also in hot form as the highest wicket taker of this same tournament at 14 wickets in just 5 matches (Sumon had two 4 wicket hauls including against India where he got century man and decently highly rated Indian prospect Armaan out at 104). For reference, Akif Javed, Hasnain, and Umer Khan were all playing this same tournament, all less successful than Sumon with the closest being Hasnain with 13 in 5 matches. Well anyways, Butt takes the last 3 balls for himself and hits a 6 straight off the bat (first boundary), a dot, and then a 4.

High pressure match, final of the tournament. Gets the score to 301 from 288 singlehandedly in this last over. Say what you will, but this guy has potential, he has temperament, he has the death bowling, and he has the T20 batting strike rate. To me he’s the perfect man for the job for this world cup, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him win us a game or two by himself.

Right now, he just needs to convert his performances to the international stage. I don’t know what other domestic death-bowling power-hitting allrounders you have in mind instead for the T20 format, I’d actually love to know. I’d be very excited to see more talent that has performed well domestically and deserves a call up. But until then, you can’t tell me someone deserving missed out for a hack.

Misbah made a good decision. For once. Let’s see how it works out.

 

[TeymurBlake]

We are in dire need of a pace bowling allrounder in our team. After chucking aside Aamer Yamin (unfairly) and constantly pushing for Faheem Ashraf, we have now arrived at Amad Butt who could say has deserved a opportunity to represent Pakistan. Whether he fulfills our expections remains to be seen, but take nothing away from him. He deserves the chance he's getting.

There is large sense of a good Pace AR in cricket specially with the likes of Ben Stokes amazing hard worked rise, you can sense other teams are starting to unearth there own all rounders.

New Zealand support and backing of Corey Anderson has been riddled with injuries now they again try with Neesham, South Africa value Andile Phehlukwayo as more of a bowler then AR, Sri Lanka have put immense pressure on Angelo Mathews to deliver but Shanka does seem to be decent. Mitch Marsh has like Anderson dealt with injuries and poor form. West Indies seemed to unearth are new one in Keemo Paul but is still to raw to be regarded as a Allrounder as of yet. And finally the rivals next door have promoted many such as Washington Sundar and Hardik Pandya to name a few but one still establishing himself while the other seems to fallen of rader.

The amount of pressure on Amad to deliver is a lot specially with Misbah untrustworthy on Allrounder and likely to use Amad more for a pace bowler who can smack a six. Amad will need to work hard to develop if he is to prove Misbah wrong.

 

[The Viper]

Amad is a far better bowler than Hammad.

He is more of a bowling allrounder who made vital contributions down the order in the National T20 Cup.

 

[minamino]

Amad Butt is a much better bowler than Hammad Azam. He should have made his debut after 2014 U19 WC.

 

[Titan24]

Only useful against 3rd tier attacks who pitch it up, in the slot, for mid-wicket/cow corner slogs. Let's see what Amad can do, but keep your hopes low. Batting can be similar to Anwar Ali, but [MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION] says he has great scoring shots all around the park, so let's see.

Yes he has more scoring areas than Anwer Ali surely as he can hit the ball on off as well and as we discussed in another thread but he is surely not Mr 360, just to clear the air.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Hammad Azam was never good to begin with.

Amad though has improved immensely in the last 2 years.

 

[Hawkeye]

Ah yes, Ben Stokes (among many other medium pacers) is useless is he? You should become our bowling coach!

Great job comparing one of the greatest all-rounders of the decade to someone who hasn't even bowled 1 international over.

Stokes' batting is much better than many specialist batsmen. He has changed the games on his own, with his batting.

How many games Amad Bradman has changed with his hitting and clutch knocks? What lengths, areas and bowlers did he hit? Enlighten us, please.

I don't rate Stokes' bowling too much, he does get lucky at times with his bowling, but Amad isn't even at that level yet. He has to bowl really really well, specialist-level pacer, because I'm skeptical of his batting.

Yes he has more scoring areas than Anwer Ali surely as he can hit the ball on off as well and as we discussed in another thread but he is surely not Mr 360, just to clear the air.

Hmm, now that's worrisome. Let's see how his batting turns out.

 

[squanchy]

I disagree. Butt was hands down the best death bowler of the tournament in the Emerging Teams Asia Cup. He produced an absolutely insane death bowling spell under pressure in the most high pressure game in the tournament, the semi final versus India, who were favorites to win even at the 47th over. 22 runs needed off 24 balls with 4 wickets in hand, and he restricts them to 4 dots and 2 singles. Built pressure rewards a wicket in the next over and he comes back for the 50th. 8 runs needed off 6 balls one of the batsmen already set at 28 runs. A single boundary could turn the tables.

He comes out and produces 1 W 0 1 1 1, and clinches us the victory by 4 runs, i.e. one boundary and we wouldn’t be here drooling over Rohail Nazir’s tournament-winning 113 (111) in the final against Bangladesh.

His economy in this match was at an astonishing 4.30 over the 10 overs he bowled, better than Hasnain (6.10), Akif Javed (5.37) and Umer Khan (5.00) all of whom are VERY highly rated by PP.

So he deserves a chance, especially with Haris Rauf at the other end for the death overs. This guy shows amazing temperament under pressure and the ability to anticipate batsmen in high stakes matches, and has shown he can replicate those performances. Him and Haris bowling overs 17-20 could be the difference we need in the upcoming world T20, and at the very least Amad Butt deserves a run of at least 3 T20s to showcase his talent.

All of this combined with the fact that he can power hit down the order seals the deal for me. In the next match, the final of the tournament, he came in at number 7 halfway through the 49th over and scored 15 (7), with the first 5 of those through 4 balls of just rotating the strike effectively to the set batsman (something we desperately need our national team to learn, if you remember the the Pak-Australia T20s) - and doesn’t play a single dot ball in the process.

When Shakeel, the set batsman, gets out, he takes the strike and responsibility by himself in the last three balls of the 50th over to face Sumon Khan, one of Bangladesh’s upcoming prospects bowling at 140 with great outswingers and intelligence (one of their better bowling prospects in a long while), and also in hot form as the highest wicket taker of this same tournament at 14 wickets in just 5 matches (Sumon had two 4 wicket hauls including against India where he got century man and decently highly rated Indian prospect Armaan out at 104). For reference, Akif Javed, Hasnain, and Umer Khan were all playing this same tournament, all less successful than Sumon with the closest being Hasnain with 13 in 5 matches. Well anyways, Butt takes the last 3 balls for himself and hits a 6 straight off the bat (first boundary), a dot, and then a 4.

High pressure match, final of the tournament. Gets the score to 301 from 288 singlehandedly in this last over. Say what you will, but this guy has potential, he has temperament, he has the death bowling, and he has the T20 batting strike rate. To me he’s the perfect man for the job for this world cup, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him win us a game or two by himself.

Right now, he just needs to convert his performances to the international stage. I don’t know what other domestic death-bowling power-hitting allrounders you have in mind instead for the T20 format, I’d actually love to know. I’d be very excited to see more talent that has performed well domestically and deserves a call up. But until then, you can’t tell me someone deserving missed out for a hack.

Misbah made a good decision. For once. Let’s see how it works out.

Great post.

Experts here seem to think cricketing greats just fall from the sky.

Like I said, Steve Smith would be washing panday in Gourmet if he was Pakistani.

 

[asfandyar]

I disagree. Butt was hands down the best death bowler of the tournament in the Emerging Teams Asia Cup. He produced an absolutely insane death bowling spell under pressure in the most high pressure game in the tournament, the semi final versus India, who were favorites to win even at the 47th over. 22 runs needed off 24 balls with 4 wickets in hand, and he restricts them to 4 dots and 2 singles. Built pressure rewards a wicket in the next over and he comes back for the 50th. 8 runs needed off 6 balls one of the batsmen already set at 28 runs. A single boundary could turn the tables.

He comes out and produces 1 W 0 1 1 1, and clinches us the victory by 4 runs, i.e. one boundary and we wouldn’t be here drooling over Rohail Nazir’s tournament-winning 113 (111) in the final against Bangladesh.

His economy in this match was at an astonishing 4.30 over the 10 overs he bowled, better than Hasnain (6.10), Akif Javed (5.37) and Umer Khan (5.00) all of whom are VERY highly rated by PP.

So he deserves a chance, especially with Haris Rauf at the other end for the death overs. This guy shows amazing temperament under pressure and the ability to anticipate batsmen in high stakes matches, and has shown he can replicate those performances. Him and Haris bowling overs 17-20 could be the difference we need in the upcoming world T20, and at the very least Amad Butt deserves a run of at least 3 T20s to showcase his talent.

All of this combined with the fact that he can power hit down the order seals the deal for me. In the next match, the final of the tournament, he came in at number 7 halfway through the 49th over and scored 15 (7), with the first 5 of those through 4 balls of just rotating the strike effectively to the set batsman (something we desperately need our national team to learn, if you remember the the Pak-Australia T20s) - and doesn’t play a single dot ball in the process.

When Shakeel, the set batsman, gets out, he takes the strike and responsibility by himself in the last three balls of the 50th over to face Sumon Khan, one of Bangladesh’s upcoming prospects bowling at 140 with great outswingers and intelligence (one of their better bowling prospects in a long while), and also in hot form as the highest wicket taker of this same tournament at 14 wickets in just 5 matches (Sumon had two 4 wicket hauls including against India where he got century man and decently highly rated Indian prospect Armaan out at 104). For reference, Akif Javed, Hasnain, and Umer Khan were all playing this same tournament, all less successful than Sumon with the closest being Hasnain with 13 in 5 matches. Well anyways, Butt takes the last 3 balls for himself and hits a 6 straight off the bat (first boundary), a dot, and then a 4.

High pressure match, final of the tournament. Gets the score to 301 from 288 singlehandedly in this last over. Say what you will, but this guy has potential, he has temperament, he has the death bowling, and he has the T20 batting strike rate. To me he’s the perfect man for the job for this world cup, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him win us a game or two by himself.

Right now, he just needs to convert his performances to the international stage. I don’t know what other domestic death-bowling power-hitting allrounders you have in mind instead for the T20 format, I’d actually love to know. I’d be very excited to see more talent that has performed well domestically and deserves a call up. But until then, you can’t tell me someone deserving missed out for a hack.

Misbah made a good decision. For once. Let’s see how it works out.

I guess we have a death over specialist at our hands (both in batting and bowling). Don't have high hopes from him, but we'll see.

 

[Pakistanian]

Not trying to be biased but we should give him a chance lol, I think he's a generational talent.

 

[Brainy sturdy]

Pakistanis are one who can predict the cricket future of an unborn fetus. A guy who makes his way in the national team based on merit and performance is being rejected even before he has played a match. Kudos guys , by the way where from do you get this negative energy from ?