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Be it the 1992 World Cup triumph, Sharjah heroics, unearthing players like Shoaib or Afridi, or the sheer dominance of W&W, Pakistan was on a roll in the 1990s. Even the heartbreaks - like the 1999 World Cup final - didn’t make it seem like the glory days were ending anytime soon.

But looking back now, did you as a Pakistani ever think that this dominance would last forever? Did you expect Pakistan to remain a top side well into the 21st century? Or did you see the signs of decline even then?
 
I have memories from 70s onwards.

Our cricketers were heroes. Mustached men with long flowing hair. And their skills on and off playing field were legendary.

The inflection point was early 2000s. You could see these men started to look and act differently. Docile and mustache-less.
 
Now comes Pakistan’s long Test line up of Saud, Babar, Rizwan, Agha, Tayyab
 
Good little delusional times of the 90s :kp :inti
Pakistan was better in the 1980s record-wise, but the 1990s created the image of "mercurial talent." The 1980s performance was more methodical because of the application and blueprint from Imran and Javed. I think change in regional geopolitics from 9/11 also played a major role in decline. As Farhan added there are cultural angles to it as well.
 
Yeah absolutely.

People will automatically pick up 92 as the highlight of the 90s but for me it was 99.

That team had a mix of everything. Experience and youth, technically correct players and hitters, pace and spin.

And the way Shoaib bowled in that world cup was like nothing I'd seen before, or since.

At that point it seemed like the only way was up.
 
Apart from Australia, no other team should believe that good times will last forever. Have a look at the all conquering West Indies team from the mid 70's till the entire 80s'. And have a look at where they have been since the 90's.​
 
Pakistan was better in the 1980s record-wise, but the 1990s created the image of "mercurial talent." The 1980s performance was more methodical because of the application and blueprint from Imran and Javed. I think change in regional geopolitics from 9/11 also played a major role in decline. As Farhan added there are cultural angles to it as well.
To a certain extent change in genetics as well.

Do you reckon our cricketers back in the day were taller, muscular, manlier perhaps?

I am quite convinced that inferior physicality of existing cohort played its part in expediting the regression.
 
When the good times are rolling every fan thinks they will last forever.

I feel worse for West Indies. The team they were and the kind of players they produced...and look at where they are now. Cricket, for all intents and purposes, is dead in the Caribbean—and the game is poorer because of it.
 
Trusting on ever pumping Talent and brilliance is start up company kind of stuff.u hope some are good and ride ur luck on them to achieve victory. Unless start up evolves and bring process and system, initial results will die down as soon as the brilliance is left or momentum is halted .wi cricket, pak cricket , Indian hockey , pak squash are prime samples.
 
To a certain extent change in genetics as well.

Do you reckon our cricketers back in the day were taller, muscular, manlier perhaps?

I am quite convinced that inferior physicality of existing cohort played its part in expediting the regression.
We had to find the right empirical evidence , or someone, who is observing things closely from 70s can comment on it better.
 
Be it the 1992 World Cup triumph, Sharjah heroics, unearthing players like Shoaib or Afridi, or the sheer dominance of W&W, Pakistan was on a roll in the 1990s. Even the heartbreaks - like the 1999 World Cup final - didn’t make it seem like the glory days were ending anytime soon.

But looking back now, did you as a Pakistani ever think that this dominance would last forever? Did you expect Pakistan to remain a top side well into the 21st century? Or did you see the signs of decline even then?
Nothing lasts forever - at least we can look back at how we humiliated your boys.
 
Yes I honestly felt in that moment it would last forever because that's all I knew.

We had Akhtar, Wasim, Waqar, Saqlain, Mushtaq Ahmed, Afridi, Inzamam, Youhana and Saeed Anwar in the same team. There was a swagger of excellence.
 
Not sure they achieved a whole lot of things int he 90s after that WC win.. They lost like 14 ODIs in a row against SOuth Africa.
 
Pakistan cricket in the 1990s was wild. A strong case can be made that the team underachieved. But I have real fondness for that team in that decade: their obvious flaws and their obvious vulnerabilities just made them more absorbing to follow.

I think there is a part of us that revolts against the over-engineered and the predictable. There is a part of us that wants to experience enchantment. This was Pakistan cricket gave us in the 1990s.

There is no doubt Pakistan cricket was a very messy affair in the 1990s, but messiness can sometimes create space for creativity. A maverick can sometimes show us what we have not yet discerned.

It was not to last of course. We might mark the symbolic end of that era as occurring on 20 June 1999. The following day, the columnist for the Times, Simon Barnes, wrote the following piece:

Fragile talents prove forever intoxicating

Watching Pakistan is what sport is all about. In some moods, I would be prepared to say that I prefer watching Pakistan to anything else in sport. I have not quite got the heart for that today, but Pakistan capture all that is most beguiling, intoxicating and addictive about sport.

Also depressing - but then depression has always been one of sport's less trumpeted pleasures, as any football supporter, or follower of the England cricket team, will tell you.

There are certain performers who possess something other than mere brilliance. I remember years ago watching Laurence Olivier going nuts in Strindberg's Dance of Death. You were never quite certain that he wasn't going to leap into the audience and start slaying people left and right. Or collapse in a terrible terminal seizure. Or perhaps lose the plot completely, forget his lines, do something quite toe-curlingly embarrassing. What he possessed above all was that sense of danger. Tension filled his every move.

Muhammad Ali had that in sport, so did John McEnroe, Ayrton Senna and Eric Cantona, which was an aspect of their watchability. In fact, one of them did leap into the audience and lay about him.

Players like this excite more than an awed and fearful response to danger. They also invoke an anxiety, a fear not just for oneself, but also for the dangerous performer himself. They compel an odd mixture of fear and tenderness. You sense the fine balance, the precarious nature of this very special kind of talent.

It is rare enough to find such a thing in an individual. Lord knows, the four I have named are pretty rare types. It is, I think, quite unique to find it in a team. Yet you find it in Pakistan cricket teams from generation to generation.

In 1992, Pakistan were losing their way in the World Cup, heading for humiliation. Imran Khan, their captain, unforgettably told his men to play like cornered tigers. Wasim Akram said something similar yesterday when his boys came out to try to bowl Australia out for nothing. You could feel the tension, the resolve to find that wild warrior inspiration that is the Pakistan speciality.

I keep a breed of bantam called Golden Sebrights. They are notorious for their tendency to hysterical panic. Yesterday, alas, Pakistan played like cornered Golden Sebrights. But that is Pakistan for you. The great thing about sport is that you don't know what happens next. Where Pakistan are concerned, you cannot even begin to make a guess. Tigers, bantams - they make the transition from one to the other with effortless ease.

They have lit up this World Cup. They, more than any other side, have brought brilliance to the tournament. They have shown England just how good a game, how enthralling cricket can be . . . as long as England are not playing.

Shoaib Akhtar has been the player of the tournament: that rare thing, a cricketer you daren't take your eyes off, in anything he does, from that wild, stirring run to those elegantly petulant gestures of his pianist's fingers. He is a player capable of exploding batsmen out - or, like yesterday, of getting hammered.

Saeed Anwar has been almost equally watchable, batting with left-handed brilliance, a nostalgic, sepia-tinted replay of David Gower. Yesterday, we saw a Gower-like cameo: a few scorching shots of minimal force and maximal grace, followed by a tame dismissal.

Wasim himself, captain of Pakistan for the third time, oscillates between hero and villain in his home country. He did all he could to win this match as a leader and on his own. Nothing worked. Let us be frank it was desperate stuff.

The performance of Pakistan and, for that matter, the following that they and the other three subcontinental sides have attracted has shown us how the future of cricket is all tied up with the sub-continent . . . and how the future of England cricket is tied up with English people of sub-continental extraction.

How much longer will it be before a person with roots in India or Pakistan becomes England captain? About five days, since you ask. Nasser Hussain should be confirmed in the post before the week is out.

Pakistan played some great matches and some dreadful ones, losing to Bangladesh and also, alas, at the last. Their fragility is an aspect of their talents; the tethered goat, the Golden Sebright, the rampant tiger. With Pakistan, it seems, you cannot have one without the other.

They bring that sense of danger, that sense of the fragile, fleeting nature of sport and its joys and sorrows. I cannot wait to watch them again.

June 21, 1999
 
Good thread.

I thought it'll last forever. Still recall when junoon released their jazba-junoon anthem in 96. Those cricketers in that video were larger than life. Everyone wanted to replicate them. They made the country happy and proud.

The loss in 99 was very hurtful. But you still loved the team and the players it had. You were always confident we will win more than we lose.
 
I started to watch cricket in 1997. Pakistan were a powerhouse at that time. Since Bangladesh didn't have any ODI status or Test status and there weren't any Afghanistan, I was rooting for Pakistan by default. Shahid Afridi's aggressive batting made me fall in love with cricket. Most of my life, I tried to bat like Shahid Afridi.

So, I grew up watching and rooting for Pakistan in a way (just like I supported Argentina in soccer/football).

I didn't expect Pakistan to decline at that time. I thought they would be okay even after retirements of the legends. But, it turned out they declined quite a bit.

Anyway, despite the decline, they managed to win 2 ICC trophies (2009 World T20 and 2017 CT). That was impressive.
 
I recall watching highlights of Pak vs Ind 1990s matches and Pak literally winning almost every other match

Yup. Pakistan were winning like 70%-80% of the matches against India. Clear domination.

There was a tri-series in India (Pakistan, India, and Sri Lanka). Pakistan dominated the whole tri-series and crushed India in the final. Pakistan won the final by 123 runs.

Here was the series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998–99_Pepsi_Cup.
 
I recall watching highlights of Pak vs Ind 1990s matches and Pak literally winning almost every other match
Winning almost every other match implies pakistan lost >50% vs india.

Doesn't tally up to your prior assertion of dominance.

Surely you said either statement in jest.
 
Not sure they achieved a whole lot of things int he 90s after that WC win.. They lost like 14 ODIs in a row against SOuth Africa.
Home series win vs Australia '94
Series win in England in '96
Drawn series in South Africa '98
(Sort of) series win in India in '99
Won in Sri Lanka and in NZ against favorite whipping boys the Kiwis though obviously those wins didn't that mean much back in '94.
Trilateral, multilateral ODI series wins also meant alot more back then

Could have won a series in West Indies in 2000 and a test in Australia in 1999 had it not been for some atrocious umpiring.

Overall, it was a pretty good decade for Pakistani cricket; match-fixing, dress-room toxicity and World Cup bottle-jobs notwithstanding.
 
Be it the 1992 World Cup triumph, Sharjah heroics, unearthing players like Shoaib or Afridi, or the sheer dominance of W&W, Pakistan was on a roll in the 1990s. Even the heartbreaks - like the 1999 World Cup final - didn’t make it seem like the glory days were ending anytime soon.

But looking back now, did you as a Pakistani ever think that this dominance would last forever? Did you expect Pakistan to remain a top side well into the 21st century? Or did you see the signs of decline even then?
No I didn’t think it would last forever. We had some generational talents there. You won’t get those all the time.

But what I never expected was the sudden change in approach. I never imagined we would become this pathetically meek.

Everything about our recent teams is weak, meek, passive. That was not the Pakistan I knew.
 
Yup. Pakistan were winning like 70%-80% of the matches against India. Clear domination.

There was a tri-series in India (Pakistan, India, and Sri Lanka). Pakistan dominated the whole tri-series and crushed India in the final. Pakistan won the final by 123 runs.

Here was the series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998–99_Pepsi_Cup.
Lol no.

Pak won 26 out of 45 in the 90s which is 57%

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Ind won 10 out of 14 in the 2010s which is 71%

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Nothing lasts forever - at least we can look back at how we humiliated your boys.
Yeah, look back is all you do while we can watch it live :ROFLMAO: .

And considering your name is "RizwanT20Champ" I am 100% sure you didn't even see the 90s live.

You are one of those kids whose earliest memories were Misbah's fatal scoop and then you got your heart broken in Mohali and have to see Pakistan regularly being smashed.
 
Lol no.

Pak won 26 out of 45 in the 90s which is 57%

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It was a rough estimation. I didn't say it was the exact percentage.

My point is Pakistan dominated India in the 90's.

Anyway, I watch cricket since 1997. I think between 1997-2004, Pakistan won vast majority of the games against India.

As of now, Pakistan is still ahead of India in both ODI and Test in terms of head-to-head records.
 
I watch cricket since 1997. I think between 1997-2004, Pakistan won vast majority of the games against India.

Exact percentages in that period are,

57% won games in ODI
50% won games in test

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Anyway, Pakistan was comfortably a better team than India in 90s.
 
yes, in the late 90s even when pak weren't winning, individual players still made people sit up and notice, they had tricksters, posers, showmen, it didnt matter how good or bad players were, they all had this flair to the way they went about things. ijaz and his lumberack batting stance, Mohammad zahid staring down the best batsmen, moin chirping non-stop and sweeping fast bowlers. these were average cricketers with more flair than the supposed A-listers of the modern team.

this will pbly be controversial, but theres a huge issue of, to put it mildly, "paindoos" in the team. and its not just down to education, its just a lack of self confidence that shows itself up as shallow bravado. they'll have insta pics with 100k likes, but sound like they've barely studied five grades when they open their mouths. i honestly believe most would have trouble doing a sodoku puzzle on easy.

but its a reflection of the country as a whole, as messed up as Pakistan was in the 90s, the music, the television, the culture as a whole had a lot of mass behind it. the mullahfication of Pakistan and the cricket team from 2001 to the early 2010s destroyed the nascent modern cultural fabric that was forming after the zia years. i see green shoots of re emergence in some of the music, clothes, etc, but greater economic inequality means that these are sub cultures of the wealthy, rather than accessible to the poorer classes, which form the basic harvest grounds of the cricket team.
 
Head to head can be misleading some times.

For example, Pak had W/L of 0.6 vs Eng in 90s, but Pakistan was a better ODI team. Pakistan was over all at 3rd spot in W/L and Eng wasn't even in the top 5 in W/L.

Point I am making, head to head in some periods may not show the gap between two teams. Over all W/L is a better indicator and Pakistan was well ahead of India in 90s in both formats.
 
yes, in the late 90s even when pak weren't winning, individual players still made people sit up and notice, they had tricksters, posers, showmen, it didnt matter how good or bad players were, they all had this flair to the way they went about things. ijaz and his lumberack batting stance, Mohammad zahid staring down the best batsmen, moin chirping non-stop and sweeping fast bowlers. these were average cricketers with more flair than the supposed A-listers of the modern team.

this will pbly be controversial, but theres a huge issue of, to put it mildly, "paindoos" in the team. and its not just down to education, its just a lack of self confidence that shows itself up as shallow bravado. they'll have insta pics with 100k likes, but sound like they've barely studied five grades when they open their mouths. i honestly believe most would have trouble doing a sodoku puzzle on easy.

but its a reflection of the country as a whole, as messed up as Pakistan was in the 90s, the music, the television, the culture as a whole had a lot of mass behind it. the mullahfication of Pakistan and the cricket team from 2001 to the early 2010s destroyed the nascent modern cultural fabric that was forming after the zia years. i see green shoots of re emergence in some of the music, clothes, etc, but greater economic inequality means that these are sub cultures of the wealthy, rather than accessible to the poorer classes, which form the basic harvest grounds of the cricket team.
Yup, Ziafication then compounded by the war on terror and the slowing economy.
 
Cricket surged ahead in terms of professionalism, and Pakistan got left behind.

Simple as that.

Our processes are still firmly rooted in the 90s era, while top teams have improved upon their infrastructure that is reaping rewards for them and will continue to do so.

Our managements nor the players evolved and the lack of good cohesion at the top meant the decline was imminent.

Despite all the talent we had at our disposal in the 90s, we didn’t win much of note. That glorious 99WC team got hammered by Australia and South Africa routinely, and our SENA records in these two countries were just as woeful as they are right now.
 
Despite all the talent we had at our disposal in the 90s, we didn’t win much of note. That glorious 99WC team got hammered by Australia and South Africa routinely, and our SENA records in these two countries were just as woeful as they are right now.

This is true. That 90s team should have won a lot more vs SENA. Pakistan were satisfied with just thrashing India regularly.
 
This is true. That 90s team should have won a lot more vs SENA. Pakistan were satisfied with just thrashing India regularly.
India, New Zealand and England were mid-level teams at best during that era, so Pakistan generally stood out due to the abundance of talent.

Talent good enough for that time.

The way the game has evolved unfortunately our players nor the system moved forward.
 
I think Inzi's influence has to be revisited, be his performance, stature and legacy.

First his performance,

Inzi was massive under-achiever in ICC events, his World Cup record is very poor. Player of his stature in ODI cricket to average only 23 in WC games and 21 in Champions Trophy games, Not a single 100 in ICC event is mind-boggling. Really puts question mark on his credentials.

Next his stature,

He was given too much power in 2000s as WWs, Moin, Saqlain, Mushtaq, Anwar all retired. Inzi became the poster boy of Pakistan Cricket, there were no checks and balances. Likes of Yousuf, Afridi, Razzak, Malik, Younus all looked up to him. Only Shoaib showed rebellion here and there.

Finally his legacy,

Professionalism took a nose dive, fitness of Pakistani cricketers hit all time low, Afridi and Razzak careers did not pan out way they got a start in 90s.
 
Professionalism took a nose dive, fitness of Pakistani cricketers hit all time low, Afridi and Razzak careers did not pan out way they got a start in 90s.
That's the problem even india had aftwr rohit as captain. He made sure no more mandatory yo yo test . all our players injured left and right.All the injured players were dropping like flies on comeback trial.it took 2 years to figure it out.there should be never a unfit species as the captian of ur campaign where fitness is key.
 
That's the problem even india had aftwr rohit as captain. He made sure no more mandatory yo yo test . all our players injured left and right.All the injured players were dropping like flies on comeback trial.it took 2 years to figure it out.there should be never a unfit species as the captian of ur campaign where fitness is key.
Its OK bud to fail the the fitness tests once in 12 years.. In 12 years , you are allowed once or so..;)
 
Lol i watch Pakistan Cricket in the 90's and remember fans used to complain about the team and players all the time. The 90's team under achieved big time given the talent at disposal. The 90's team feasted on lower ranked teams. NZ and England were very poor back then along with India and that 90's team got regularly smashed by the powerful teams like Australia, South Africa. West Indies were on the decline as well.
 
Cricket surged ahead in terms of professionalism, and Pakistan got left behind.

Simple as that.

Our processes are still firmly rooted in the 90s era, while top teams have improved upon their infrastructure that is reaping rewards for them and will continue to do so.

Our managements nor the players evolved and the lack of good cohesion at the top meant the decline was imminent.

Despite all the talent we had at our disposal in the 90s, we didn’t win much of note. That glorious 99WC team got hammered by Australia and South Africa routinely, and our SENA records in these two countries were just as woeful as they are right now.
Correct. The others surged ahead.

Cricket became more professional and systems-driven. NZ and England who are first world countries became a lot better.

India got richer and that trickled into their cricket.

Bangladesh also got richer and better.

SL got better throughout the 90s.

Minnows like Afghanistan, Ireland, USA have become better.
 
The IK era from 1982-1992 cannot be beaten

Under his leadership Pakistan achieved the following

- Winning against India in both Pakistan and in India

- Winning against Australia in Pakistan

- Winning against Sri Lanka in Pakistan in 1986 & 1991/92

- Competing strongly against a strong English side in England in 1982 but losing 2-1. Pakistan emerged victorious against a strong England side at home in 1987 1-0

- Pakistan qualifying for the finals of the World Series 1987 only to lose to England in the final

- Drawing 1-1 against the strongest team of the era WI in 1986 & 1990 at home and 1-1 in the WI in 1988

- Reaching the Semi Finals of the 1987 ODI WC suffering an upset close defeat against Australia in the Semi Final

- Winning the Nehru Cup beating the Strongest team West Indies in the final in India 1989. The CT of the team

- ODI WC Win 1992 in Australia, his crowning achievement

The blips during his captaincy is the following

- The loss to Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka in 1986. There are many reports that Pakistan suffered badly because of poor biased umpiring by the local Sri Lankan umpires

- Drawing against NZ in NZ in 1988-89 in the test series and losing the ODI series afterwards

- Losing 1-0 to Australia in 1989-90 in the test series but the Pakistani team fought back hard in the first and second test. It took an extraordinary catch by Geoff Marsh to dismiss the red hot Ijaz Ahmed who was taking the match away from Australia

This captaincy reign and achievements are far superior in comparison to the 90's team which feasted against the poor teams of the 90's and was frequently blown away against the top teams of that era
 
Good times are not constant. they do come but it takes lots of effort and luck. LIke 2017 CT, Pakistan won out of nowhere due to luck and playing better on that day. you have to make your days good, they are not to be taken for granted.
 
There was a life in that Pakistan cricket team of the 1990s. They just seemed more virile. More dynamic. In our camp we had talented individuals but as a unit we were a docile bunch. Pakistan literally had a match winner at every number in their line-up. In 1996 QF we put up a good total to defend but the way Saeed bhai and Sohail bhai started smashing everything with ease, it felt like we were a 100 runs short. Until Venky bhai got the breakthrough it was embarrassing the way we were being bullied at home lol.

It’s fair to say that the decline of cricketing in West Indies, Pakistan and Sri Lanka hasn’t been a good thing for the game and no wonder in the last two decades we have all been questioning the lack of quality and intensity.

There is also a huge question mark on the greatness of cricketers in the last two decades because they faced less intense competition.

We hope to see a stronger Pakistan team in the future
 
India, New Zealand and England were mid-level teams at best during that era, so Pakistan generally stood out due to the abundance of talent.

Talent good enough for that time.

The way the game has evolved unfortunately our players nor the system moved forward.
The biggest issue right there in my opinion. Same has happened in Field Hockey too. (Maybe same in Squash too?). Nowadays you need proper facilities, coaching, diet plans, education, really hard work on the grount and in the gym, you name it. Pakistan are nowhere close here. Actually the way country is run mirrors all this.
 
Pakistan did not really dominate in the 90s. They regularly lost home series to other teams - including a series loss to Zimbabwe. Got knocked out in 1996 WC early and then lost 1999 final in humiliating fashion. Also lost every ODI they played against South Africa from 1995-1999. They did dominate India but that was bcoz India was pathetic in those - whole decade India did not win a single overseas test.

Nostalgia looks good bcoz people only remember the god things.
 
Pakistan did not really dominate in the 90s. They regularly lost home series to other teams - including a series loss to Zimbabwe. Got knocked out in 1996 WC early and then lost 1999 final in humiliating fashion. Also lost every ODI they played against South Africa from 1995-1999. They did dominate India but that was bcoz India was pathetic in those - whole decade India did not win a single overseas test.

Nostalgia looks good bcoz people only remember the god things.
good times in the sense of being better than india.

they were the no 3 team of that decade.

pakistan hasnt been undisputed no 1 in any format in any decade.
 
Pakistan as a country was in a different place in 90s and Team merely reflected the confidence of a Nation.

From 90s onwards, the country declined due to lack of Governance, Nepotism, corruption while from 90s onwards, Manmohan Singh India went on a different trajectory and Cricket of both countries reflect their respective journeys from 90s onwards.

Indian Cricket got professional and worked on their weakness (MRF Academy) while Pakistan thought and still thinks that there is a Shoaib AKHTAR in every street...

The gulf in Cricket cannot be viewed in isolation...
 
Pakistan did not really dominate in the 90s. They regularly lost home series to other teams - including a series loss to Zimbabwe. Got knocked out in 1996 WC early and then lost 1999 final in humiliating fashion. Also lost every ODI they played against South Africa from 1995-1999. They did dominate India but that was bcoz India was pathetic in those - whole decade India did not win a single overseas test.

Nostalgia looks good bcoz people only remember the god things.

Pakistan won 1992 WC, reached 1996 WC quarter-final, and 1999 WC final. They also won a competitive ODI tri-series in Australia.

They dominated in ODI format.
 
Pakistan did not really dominate in the 90s. They regularly lost home series to other teams - including a series loss to Zimbabwe. Got knocked out in 1996 WC early and then lost 1999 final in humiliating fashion. Also lost every ODI they played against South Africa from 1995-1999. They did dominate India but that was bcoz India was pathetic in those - whole decade India did not win a single overseas test.

Nostalgia looks good bcoz people only remember the god things.
And 1 Test series loss at home to Sri Lanka, when they were minnows.
 
Pakistan won 1992 WC, reached 1996 WC quarter-final, and 1999 WC final. They also won a competitive ODI tri-series in Australia.

They dominated in ODI format.
That is not domination LOL ! :ROFLMAO:Maybe for Ban and its players who have been useless since 30 years. Aus dominated ODI WC's and no one came close to that era of dominance.
 
That is not domination LOL ! :ROFLMAO:Maybe for Ban and its players who have been useless since 30 years. Aus dominated ODI WC's and no one came close to that era of dominance.
India winning wc in 83, sort of ct in 85 and semis in 87 should make them goat 🤣 .
 
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