As a Pakistan cricket fan, how would you honestly feel if Mohammad Rizwan were to announce his T20I retirement right now?

[Rana]

Posing this question to all Pakistan cricket fans. Those who hate him and those who love him.

If Rizwan announces his retirement right now, what will your honest feeling be? Let’s hear it.

I will share my views to kickstart:

A part of me will have a sense of relief. A bit like a victim of abuse that has been in captivity of their abuser for a long time suddenly finding freedom. But the damage done to me mentally as a cricket fan is far too much, and has desensitised my feeling towards the game and Pakistan cricket. I no longer trust Pakistan cricket, it’s fans, it’s analysts. I have seen in 5 years how people have gone over and beyond to lie and build a false image for this guy. I have no doubts that this will happen again and again. This corrupt, dishonest propaganda of false image building will continue.

Let’s hear your views

 

[Kianig89]

Definitely sad, because we Don't have his replacement.

Usman Khan Haseebullah AzamKhan all are well below him

 

[jamie smith]

Definitely sad, because we Don't have his replacement.

Usman Khan Haseebullah AzamKhan all are well below him

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ghazi ghori looks a good prospect... definitely one for the future.

 

[jamie smith]

Posing this question to all Pakistan cricket fans. Those who hate him and those who love him.

If Rizwan announces his retirement right now, what will your honest feeling be? Let’s hear it.

I will share my views to kickstart:

A part of me will have a sense of relief. A bit like a victim of abuse that has been in captivity of their abuser for a long time suddenly finding freedom. But the damage done to me mentally as a cricket fan is far too much, and has desensitised my feeling towards the game and Pakistan cricket. I no longer trust Pakistan cricket, it’s fans, it’s analysts. I have seen in 5 years how people have gone over and beyond to lie and build a false image for this guy. I have no doubts that this will happen again and again. This corrupt, dishonest propaganda of false image building will continue.

Let’s hear your views

if it happens i would feel more happier than what i will feel if india loses a world cup final

 

[Nabeel23]

Very happy, he is suited to ODIs and Tests so should concentrate on that.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Definitely sad, because we Don't have his replacement.

Usman Khan Haseebullah AzamKhan all are well below him

IMO the way Babar and Rizwan play, even Imam can do what they do in T20’s.

Let’s say hypothetically, there was no Babar and Rizwan, would you be happy to have Imam in your T20 team?

 

[shaz619]

I would be delighted no doubt, and even more if the management recognise how damaging he was for their dressing room culture.

You can make a solid case to drop this guy from all formats, it’s better to prepare for the future with a fresh coat of paint, but even after some truly depressing defeats, that fresh coat of paint is being applied to Rizwan!

 

[Bhaijaan]

Thank God i am not a Pakistani because i might have died of heart attack.

 

[mominsaigol]

Posing this question to all Pakistan cricket fans. Those who hate him and those who love him.

If Rizwan announces his retirement right now, what will your honest feeling be? Let’s hear it.

I will share my views to kickstart:

A part of me will have a sense of relief. A bit like a victim of abuse that has been in captivity of their abuser for a long time suddenly finding freedom. But the damage done to me mentally as a cricket fan is far too much, and has desensitised my feeling towards the game and Pakistan cricket. I no longer trust Pakistan cricket, it’s fans, it’s analysts. I have seen in 5 years how people have gone over and beyond to lie and build a false image for this guy. I have no doubts that this will happen again and again. This corrupt, dishonest propaganda of false image building will continue.

Let’s hear your views

Somewhat happy. Had this decision been made back in 2019 straight after the Misbah t20 series botch where both he and Misbah were removed, then I'd be a happy camper.

Rizwan caused the most problems but rn Ramiz, Misbah, Saya, and many others are bigger rubbish that need to be discarded.

Although rizwan leaving from t20 means saim can open so it'll be a good positive start.

 

[shaz619]

Thank God i am not a Pakistani because i might have died of heart attack.

I walk everywhere with an Oxygen tank.

But most Pakistan fans are fine, they believe their team is beautiful like Babar’s cover drive and Rizwan’s T20I match day make-up.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

If he is unwilling or unable to adapt his game then I won't mind if he retired.

Plenty of players have retired in the past. The game moves on.

 

[mominsaigol]

OP: How would you feel if Rizwan retired right now?

Rizwan while reading this: Mein Retirement sei Khush Nahi Hoon

 

[Rana]

OP: How would you feel if Rizwan retired right now?

Rizwan while reading this: Mein Retirement sei Khush Nahi Hoon

Jo meri retirement ka Soche ga…woh Zaleel hoga!

 

[mominsaigol]

Jo meri retirement ka Soche ga…woh Zaleel hoga!

The hilarious thing is, His innings yesterday boosted his avg back into higher 47, another innings such as this and he goes back up to 48.

Infact Ever since rizzu became captain in odi and t20 his stats have sky rocketed courtesy of going not out chasing low totals against aus and zim.

His sr has plummeted in both formats though. Rizzu's sr is now dangerously close to falling even below 125. And will probs fall to 124 to 123 soon in t20.

Same in odi, it's falling and falling.

He knows how to maintain his average alot better then Bobby. If it goes down, Rizzu will reclaim it and push it back up.

 

[hafizexpress]

Will be relieved. I'd be happier though if PCB boots him out bc for a player like this who doesn't belong in the format, he should just be removed and that's more satisfying. Obviously neither this nor that would happen but my honest thoughts would be like being freed from tight shackles.

The whole dynamic of this team changes with Rizwan out. Babar can come at 3, two striking batters can open, the middle order will surround Babar's accumulation and strike rotation with finding boundaries. The lower order can freely slog without unnecessary pressure being mounted on them. (For example, yesterday with Rizwan leaving them to get 15 per over )

We are always complaining about the t20 team lagging behind and not being up to modern standards. People don't realize that Rizwan is the sole reason. Once he's removed, give the team a solid run and see what they can do.

If Babar and Rizwan were opening against Zim in the second t20, they would also be not out and chase the whole score down themselves, but it would have been in about 7 overs after nudging the ball around during the PP and then hitting a couple of boundaries. Saim and Omair needed 28 balls.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

he should focus playing only ODI and Test cricket... this fast paced T20 cricket is not for him.

 

[hafizexpress]

I still don't mind him in ODis and tests bc he can play ODIs like he does t20s and I don't mind. In tests, I genuinely don't see another decent option right now and Rizwan can give you some handy middle order scores. But if he is to retire from t20s, I'll be a happy camper. All fantasies though. I'm hoping Aqib can have some sense knocked into him and just drop him. Be brave and strong man.

 

[hafizexpress]

Saim and Omair needed 28 balls.

Correction, they needed 33 balls but point still stands.

 

[TheSultan]

Needless to say, I’d be ecstatic!

 

[pakistani pride]

Happy and hope he takes his buddy with him, far away far from Pak cricket.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Pretty good. That would also mean that a permanent WK batter spot would potentially open up for Harris or Haseeb in this format.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think Rizwan should only play Test and ODI.

 

[Vikram1989]

As an opposition fan I will be very sad

 

[Farabi]

The T20 approach is outdated and shouldn’t be part of the team. But can you clarify how you determined this to be “corrupt, dishonest propaganda” rather than just a “difference in approach and mindset”? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so how does it become dishonest just because it differs from someone else’s perspective.

 

[BouncerGuy]

You would feel sad if you from an opposition team otherwise it would be an OK decision. His place in T20s is not justified, not as opener, not in middle order. he should be rested

 

[MHN1293]

He was one of our better t20 players for a while from that t20 series in nz in 2020 ig, cant remember, up till 2022 wc. Since then both he and babars form has plummeted. Both should be excluded from the t20 setup for the time being. Babar can always make a comeback if needed however looks like the end of the tunnel for rizwan

 

[Mrjungshook]

I might stop watching cricket.
Without rizwan this team might starting playing at a strike rate of 150-200 and that as a fan since 2007 I might not be able to watch it.
I mean I will miss my ya toh win ha ya toh l* hai.
I might start trending some stuff on x
#saynotostrikerate
#Rizwanisabestopenersir
#Rizzutheoppenhiemer
#rizzuthepeakyblinder
#rizzujaani

 

[BouncerGuy]

I might stop watching cricket.
Without rizwan this team might starting playing at a strike rate of 150-200 and that as a fan since 2007 I might not be able to watch it.
I mean I will miss my ya toh win ha ya toh l* hai.
I might start trending some stuff on x
#saynotostrikerate
#Rizwanisabestopenersir
#Rizzutheoppenhiemer
#rizzuthepeakyblinder
#rizzujaani

Sure. List please for those players who will do that.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Fun Fact:

Rizwan has played 105 T20Is now. In his whole T20I career he has only played 9 innings at or above the strike rate of 150.

Also never at any point in his career he has managed to push his accumulative/progressive strike rate above 130.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Fun Fact:

Rizwan has played 105 T20Is now. In his whole T20I career he has only played 9 innings at or above the strike rate of 150.

Also never at any point in his career he has managed to push his accumulative/progressive strike rate above 130.

On the other hand Babar has played 127 innings and has 18 innings at or above the strike rate of 150. He also had many innings weirdly ended up at 149 strike rate.

Babar also has multiple times in his career crossed 130 strike rate on his accumulative/progressive strike rate stat.

 

[Mrjungshook]

Sure. List please for those players who will do that.

Saim Ayub - but he will fail 2 out of 5 times. But boy can smash.
Sharjeel khan - heavy, doesn't have a nice past, but when Aamir can play sure sharjeel also can right?
Fakhar Zaman- needs 5 balls to settle but boy can send balls to Mars once settled.
Asif ali- mental midget but can win matches on own when he is in zone.
Sahibzada farhan - play him at 5, he is good with old ball and with guarantee he will give 15 balls 30-35 run innings.
Mohammad Haris: needs confidence he is down but what do you expect from a player of pcb? They tend to lose it for a long time.
Haider ali : give him 5 matches and that boy has a capability to score atleast 200 sr.
Abdullah shafique : this might come out as a surprise but trust me he is better than what he looks like right now, he has better high range strokes which he doens't use in tests and also in Odis but give him some matches and you will see it by yourself.
Abdul samad: this guy will create fear in oppositions in future, mark this.
There are few more, but for now these names are enough.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

It would mean nothing if he continue to play test and is still captain in ODIs

Until Rizwan is thrown out of Pakistan cricket for good and is back to playing second grade cricket for Markhors than maybe we can talk about moving forward

 

[Mrjungshook]

On the other hand Babar has played 127 innings and has 18 innings at or above the strike rate of 150. He also had many innings weirdly ended up at 149 strike rate.

Babar also has multiple times in his career crossed 130 strike rate on his accumulative/progressive strike rate stat.

Babar plays powerplay better, that's why he has a good strike rate.
His average strike rate progression in t20i goes like this.
1-2 overs 120
3-6 200
7-15 125
16-20 150.
If we compare it to rizwan his strikerate is almost low in every phase. he also rarely plays till 20 overs and loses his wicket before 17th over.
1-2 80 (because of his newball struggle)
3-6 140
7-15 110
16-20 140

 

[BouncerGuy]

Saim Ayub - but he will fail 2 out of 5 times. But boy can smash.
Sharjeel khan - heavy, doesn't have a nice past, but when Aamir can play sure sharjeel also can right?
Fakhar Zaman- needs 5 balls to settle but boy can send balls to Mars once settled.
Asif ali- mental midget but can win matches on own when he is in zone.
Sahibzada farhan - play him at 5, he is good with old ball and with guarantee he will give 15 balls 30-35 run innings.
Mohammad Haris: needs confidence he is down but what do you expect from a player of pcb? They tend to lose it for a long time.
Haider ali : give him 5 matches and that boy has a capability to score atleast 200 sr.
Abdullah shafique : this might come out as a surprise but trust me he is better than what he looks like right now, he has better high range strokes which he doens't use in tests and also in Odis but give him some matches and you will see it by yourself.
Abdul samad: this guy will create fear in oppositions in future, mark this.
There are few more, but for now these names are enough.

I am up for Saim Fakhar but rest of players are crap bro... crap....

Haider ali is showing some form but not sure if he can replicate that in internationals .

 

[Mrjungshook]

It would mean nothing if he continue to play test and is still captain in ODIs

Until Rizwan is thrown out of Pakistan cricket for good and is back to playing second grade cricket for Malakand Markhors than maybe we can talk about moving forward

Rip Malakand Markhors

 

[Mrjungshook]

I am up for Saim Fakhar but rest of players are crap bro... crap....

Haider ali is showing some form but not sure if he can replicate that in internationals .

They might look crap right now, but hopefully you will see them in a squad in 2 3 years time.
That time we will talk on this.
Right now I can name anyone until they don't get their names on a team sheet our choices and arguments won't mean anything.

 

[MHN1293]

I am up for Saim Fakhar but rest of players are crap bro... crap....

Haider ali is showing some form but not sure if he can replicate that in internationals .

Haris can come good in the future. He needs to find his way back.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Haris can come good in the future. He needs to find his way back.

I hope he does but he has been pathetic in last 2 years. 1 match-wonder

 

[Rana]

Failed T20 cricketer

 

[khyberlion]

Rizwan needs to be shown the door in t20s for good. Shouldn't be bagging above 6 in odis and 7 in tests. Rizwan should have some shame and stop playing t20s. It's beyond embarrassing.

 

[topspin]

- Rizwan should retire from the shortest format for the greater good of Pakistan cricket
- Anyone who advocates for him to be opening the batting for Pakistan in T20Is should retire from posting on cricketing matters

@Rana

 

[BouncerGuy]

Rizwan actullay should retire from T20s now. He is a washed up guy for T20s.

 

[Kianig89]

Rizwan should retire , Azam Khan to be included

 

[pratiktc]

Rizwan will be remembered as the line in the sand player who made coaches/analysts/general public finally realize that metrics like avg and SR are not suitable for judging T20 players.

On serious note, the T20 game has passed Rizwan. He was never at cutting edge but succeeded in giving low impact high volume run output as an anchor for 2 years.

His time is done now

 

[mominsaigol]

Even posters who like rizwan as a test and odi batsmen like @RedwoodOriginal or @RidiculousMan want rizzu booted out of t20 and never to return again.

He's that bad in t20. As I and @Nikhil_cric said, purple patch ended. He's been rubbish in t20 since 2022. 2024 is 100% his worst year however with him frequently batting at a sr of 90 in t20.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Even posters who like rizwan as a test and odi batsmen like @RedwoodOriginal or @RidiculousMan want rizzu booted out of t20 and never to return again.

He's that bad in t20. As I and @Nikhil_cric said, purple patch ended. He's been rubbish in t20 since 2022. 2024 is 100% his worst year however with him frequently batting at a sr of 90 in t20.

Wicket keeper batters shouldn't be playing all formats anyway.

It's a big workload. He should focus on his declining ODI form.

 

[RyanRyan10]

He has averaged 42.5 in this series and people want him to retire just after one low score.

@Local.Dada look at these people