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Australia (371 & 349) beat England (286 & 352) by 82 runs to seal unassailable 3-0 Ashes lead in five-match series

Which side will win the 3rd Ashes Test at Adelaide?


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I think Key did a good job in terms of picking up an England side that faltered during Joe Roots captaincy.

He does seem to have got a bit arrogant recently. Could sense a little bit of tension and needle at times when he was interacting with pundits and ex players.

Despite this disaster tour, I do think Bazball has been largely positive for England and for cricket. It has moved the game on to the extent that teams no longer fear batting last as much, 4th innings targets are being set for higher runs, and turned the conventional blockathons on flat tracks into high paced aggressive cricket. They just had to learn to reign it back a bit at times. Which unfortunately was beyond them.

That's fairly impressive to have pushed on the oldest format in such a way over a 3-4 year period.
England were indeed a mediocre but boring and soulless team pre-Bazball.
They are a mediocre and vaguely entertaining team with Bazball.

They are seventh in the WTC (for what it's worth).
More importantly they have not beaten a top side (i.e. India or Australia) either home or away during this period. This is damning --winning abroad is tough but you should win at home.

That is simply not good enough given the money and investment in the game here in England.
They cannot content themselves in beating second string nations.
 
Very little to do with that. Aus has been a monster team at home as long as visiting team is not India. From 2017, Aus has played 31 tests at home( not including India) and lost only 1 game and won 26 with W/L 26. Flip it to Eng in home for context.

Eng simply does not have a quality to go toe to toe with Aus in Aus conditions. Aus is just fantastic team in Aus conditions.

South Africa won 3 consecutive series in Australia i think.

But I still stand by my point. ENGLISH AND AUSTRALIANS see the Ashes series like no other.
 
South Africa won 3 consecutive series in Australia i think.

But I still stand by my point. ENGLISH AND AUSTRALIANS see the Ashes series like no other.

But let's be real, England are diluting these contests with their insipid performances. The brand is being stretched to a great extent, and there's only so much it can stand.
 
South Africa won 3 consecutive series in Australia i think.

But I still stand by my point. ENGLISH AND AUSTRALIANS see the Ashes series like no other.
I was making a different point.

Aus seeing Ashes as important had very little to do with Eng doing so poorly in Aus. Main reason is Aus being so good and at same time Eng being poor in Aus conditions. Yes, SA won earlier when SA had gun team. Same with India in recent years and same with Eng winning in 2011. You got to have team for that and Eng simply does not have it and that's why we see 5 tests long Ashes in Aus being done and dusted within 10-11 days of cricket. There has been no fight and that's due to skill gap in Aus conditions.
 
I am not even asking for Eng to win series in Aus. Show some fight and win a test. At least, draw few tests when series is live.

10-11 days and 5 tests long Ashes series gets done and dusted like a clockwork in each series.
 
I am not even asking for Eng to win series in Aus. Show some fight and win a test. At least, draw few tests when series is live.

10-11 days and 5 tests long Ashes series gets done and dusted like a clockwork in each series.

Too much to ask for mate.

And the worst part? You know that after the 2nd test they will collapse completely and the rest of the series is a given. Quite unlike Australia over there who fight till the end.
 
Too much to ask for mate.

And the worst part? You know that after the 2nd test they will collapse completely and the rest of the series is a given. Quite unlike Australia over there who fight till the end.
I don't expect Eng to have Aus mentality, but Ashes in Aus repeats like a clockwork. Aus is very strong at home so I get that point, but Eng starts looking to be done with series after 10 days of cricket.
 
But let's be real, England are diluting these contests with their insipid performances. The brand is being stretched to a great extent, and there's only so much it can stand.

In Australia I do agree. Some consolation for England in England Against Australia, Wombats have not won a test series in England for best part of 25 years
 
I think England have to stop the Bazball project after this series.

McCullum should be sacked as the coach. He himself was not a good Test batter. He was effectively a slogger. How is he the Test coach? LOL.

England need to return to traditional Test cricket with traditional players. Funky gimmicks like bazball are not the solutions. :inti
 
agree. very one sided games
I am not even asking for Eng to win series in Aus. Show some fight and win a test. At least, draw few tests when series is live.

10-11 days and 5 tests long Ashes series gets done and dusted like a clockwork in each series.
 
I think England have to stop the Bazball project after this series.

McCullum should be sacked as the coach. He himself was not a good Test batter. He was effectively a slogger. How is he the Test coach? LOL.

England need to return to traditional Test cricket with traditional players. Funky gimmicks like bazball are not the solutions. :inti
traditional test is now only surviving bcz of India and Australia.
 
In Australia I do agree. Some consolation for England in England Against Australia, Wombats have not won a test series in England for best part of 25 years

We have gone toe to toe with England in both 2019 and 2023. One was a narrow defeat, the other was a drawn series.

Much more than what they have done over here, when even drawing a single match is beyond them.
 
We have gone toe to toe with England in both 2019 and 2023. One was a narrow defeat, the other was a drawn series.

Much more than what they have done over here, when even drawing a single match is beyond them.

Atleast our last series win in Australia is more recent than when Aussies last won in the UK. Dam! Reminds me of when I was in junior school!
 
Atleast our last series win in Australia is more recent than when Aussies last won in the UK. Dam! Reminds me of when I was in junior school!

Yeah, and all you needed to win in 2005 was breathmints for the ball, dodgy decisions by Billy Bowden, and McGrath stepping on the ball before a crucial test. A round of applause for your cricketing merits!
 
Yeah, and all you needed to win in 2005 was breathmints for the ball, dodgy decisions by Billy Bowden, and McGrath stepping on the ball before a crucial test. A round of applause for your cricketing merits!

Hang on a minute. Pot calling the kettle black. Have you forgot "Sandpaper Gate"
 
Whilst he hasn’t been helped by continually coming in very early, due to the failure of either Crawly or Duckett, Pope must be the one of the worst No3s I have ever seen play for England.
For sure. Even Crawley delivers once or twice in a series. Pope is almost completely useless and rarely ever plays an innings of impact.
 
England's problems in Australia have been 2 fold.

Lack of pre games in Australia. Where were the matches against the President XI and all that?

No solid Test #3 since Jonathan Trott.
 
Brook cost the game by dropping 2 catches of the leading scorers Travis and Khawaja
And then playing the usual brainless shot when england were looking steady.
Eng need a coach and management that should punish complacency
 
Australia's captaincy is utterly baffling. They are literally waiting for new ball rather than using Boland with old ball. Cam green is such a rubbish bowler
 
Next ball Smith lobs a catch up in the air and Cummins takes it easily

Smith gone for 60

He didnt need to play that threw it away there one shot too many
 
Another needless shot.
Jamie Smith is their most talented batsman and is good enough to play as a specialist batter.
But he is even more brainless than Brook.
 
Smith is a bit like Pant. Once started can't stop. Sometimes that can land your team in trouble. pant recently gifted his wicket so many times in crucial situations when bowling was at his mercy.
 
Historically Aussies Prioritize the Ashes like no other series. They are ultra competitive as it is. When you had the 150 years of history Attached to it then they seem to add to the Competitive nature of theirs. Which makes them even tougher to beat!
Lol, australia is same at home against any team. They wipe the floor with visiting teams
 
Blimey! Mighty disappointing by mighty Eng.
Stokes’ time as captain should be over after this series. Eng always look clueless in Aus but this bunch has looked the most clueless.
 
Well Done Aussies. Congrats on retaining the Ashes. Greatest rivalry in the world ends in 11 days. HOpe they salvage some pride in the remaining two tests.
 
England should end the Bazball project.

Also, need a new Test team with a new Test coach maybe. Need a different strategy.
 
Test cricket is all about merely reacting to different situations which is what AUstralia did. Pre-planned approach is likely to fail.
 
Ashes secured as poised Aussies outlast dogged England

After months, if not years, of Bazball chest-beating that promised England's best chance of contesting the urn down under in 15 years, Australia put the final touches on a familiar home Ashes Test script on Sunday in Adelaide.

A potentially serious hamstring injury to Nathan Lyon helped raise hopes of a fourth-innings miracle as England's valiant lower order led by embattled duo Jamie Smith (60) and Will Jacks (47) got them far closer to their target of 435 than the 20,643-strong final-day crowd had expected.

But three late strikes from this series' standout cricketer, Mitchell Starc, as well as Marnus Labuschagne's second left-handed hanger in as many days ensured Australia recorded an 82-run victory that confirmed the urn would remain in their possession.

Labuschagne took the match-winning catch at second slip off No.11 Josh Tongue to reward the laser-accurate Scott Boland and seal an unassailable 3-0 lead in the NRMA Insurance series.

As Lyon watched on while propped on crutches in his team's dugout, the Australians danced in celebration next to the worn drop-in Adelaide Oval pitch that helped push this Test into a fifth day for the first time in the series.

"This Adelaide crowd has been something special," said Alex Carey, named player of the match for his 106, 72 and six catches and a stumping, having also helped fellow South Australian Travis Head to his second-innings ton.

"Travis, again, something special here, four straight tons at this ground. I know how good he is and he's showing the world.

"To be able to contribute to victories is something I'm always trying to do … very special moment, having the family here, to score a hundred and look up to the heavens was very special."

It capped a phenomenal bowling performance from Australia's recast attack that welcomed back Pat Cummins and Lyon for this match, the veteran pair who have 900 wickets between them but who had bowled just two overs combined in the first two matches.

They ended up accounting for 12 of the 20 England wickets taken here, and it might have been more had Lyon not pulled up lame clutching his right hamstring after a boundary-line fielding effort during the first session.

The 38-year-old off-spinner immediately left the field with a member of Australia's medical staff with fears he could have a second consecutive Ashes series curtailed by a soft-tissue injury after his 2023 Lord's calf strain.

Labuschagne, having already filed his catch-of-the-series entry on day four when he took a low diving snare off Ollie Pope, then repeated the trick with an equally athletic one-hander tumbling in front of Alex Carey.

Jacks hung his head in disbelief after the energetic Queenslander's latest wonder-grab having earlier extended his seventh-wicket stand with Smith to 91 after they had resumed the day needing a further 228 for victory.

Brydon Carse (39no) also showed the "dog" demanded of England by their captain Ben Stokes but a record-high target never truly felt in reach after they managed just 286 in their first innings earlier in the Test.

Ultimately, despite the late fight, what was promised as something new from this Stokes, Brendon McCullum-led touring troop has instead devolved into another mistake-laden mess as England surrendered the urn in even quicker time than their three previous failures in Australia.

Since England's last series win here in 2010-11, Australia have taken just 14, 15 and 12 days in 2013-14, '17-18 and '21-22 respectively to win the series. It's taken just 11 here, equalling another one-sided capitulation in '02-03.

This Test was effectively the closest England have come to beating Australia in the past 12 years. Their double digit-run margin of defeat was the smallest they have gone down by in 16 losses out of their last 18 here, having also never come closer than by fewer than eight wickets when bowling last.

Australia's overall Ashes domination has now stretched into a second decade with England having failed to win a series against their bitter rivals since 2015, with draws at home in 2019 and 2023 marking their best returns.

"That dream is now over, which is incredibly disappointing," said Stokes. "Everyone is hurting and quite emotional about it.

"It hurts, it sucks, but we ain't going to stop. Australia have just been able to execute things more consistently than us ... we've shown it in passages.

"Thought we were on for another heist when Jamie and Will were going. But not being able to respond with the bat when we had an opportunity to put a big score on the board (was important).

"That (fight) I wanted to see, I've seen that this week. Think we can take a lot from this game. We've got so much more to play for."

On a darkened Sunday morning, Jacks and Smith defied Australia's initial push as they crept up on their unlikely target of 435 having resumed with their side already six wickets down.

The Barmy Army danced in delight when overcast skies gave way to light drizzle 40 minutes into the day that delayed the inevitable with a second new ball looming.

Smith passed fifty, his first of the series, as he unfurled a sequence of crisp strokes against the new ball. But after the keeper-bat cracked two consecutive boundaries off Starc, the left-armer roared when he had him caught at mid-on in his attempt to hit a third.

England lost their final three wickets for 15 runs as Australia sealed their triumph under sunnier afternoon skies.

 
So its all over, another Ashes walloping down under for Eng.

Maybe in 3-4 years time they will return to face a new gen of Aus pace bowlers + spinners and it might be a tad easier...

Or maybe they will forget these three tests and start afresh in Melbourne and SCG and we can see some better performances, some fire and intensity from Eng

Or Aus turn up punch drunk on christmas cheer and one or two Xmas puddings too heavy and sleep walk their way to the middle ...

Or may be global warming kicks in with a vengence and both tests get snowed out...lol... :shafiq2

just want to see a good stoush in both remaining tests
 
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