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Pk and Lanka have regressed alarmingly. We were never established as such anyway. Our progress has been too slow. India are an elite side. Asian cricket is in a bad state overall.
 
Bangladesh is a richer and more prosperous country than Pakistan now. I think they have a bright future ahead of them and will soon replace Pakistan as the number two Asian team.

Sri Lanka are in the dumps at the moment, but their mentality is not rotten like ours and their school cricket is exceptionally strong. At this point, they have a better chance than Pakistan of reviving their cricket.

As far as Afghanistan is concerned, as long as they are on good terms with BCCI and have their base in India, they will continue to develop as a Limited Overs team. Asian cricket on the whole is not dead bar India, but the power has certainly start to shift.
 
Srilanka has some politics going on. Some main players were left out. I think it is a case of disciplining them.
 
Mamoon said:
Bangladesh is a richer and more prosperous country than Pakistan now. I think they have a bright future ahead of them and will soon replace Pakistan as the number two Asian team.

Sri Lanka are in the dumps at the moment, but their mentality is not rotten like ours and their school cricket is exceptionally strong. At this point, they have a better chance than Pakistan of reviving their cricket.

As far as Afghanistan is concerned, as long as they are on good terms with BCCI and have their base in India, they will continue to develop as a Limited Overs team. Asian cricket on the whole is not dead bar India, but the power has certainly start to shift.
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Who do you think is currently second best Asian side
 
Pakistan is shorn of world class players at the moment but it's not as bad a side as the results are. At the moment we are being ridiculously unlucky and making some terrible management mistakes and being total idiots in the field. On average we are making about three critical mistakes a match and that's just too costly. Hopefully we will be able to get rid of a few players and then be a respectable team again.
 
Mamoon said:
Bangladesh is a richer and more prosperous country than Pakistan now. I think they have a bright future ahead of them and will soon replace Pakistan as the number two Asian team.

Sri Lanka are in the dumps at the moment, but their mentality is not rotten like ours and their school cricket is exceptionally strong. At this point, they have a better chance than Pakistan of reviving their cricket.

As far as Afghanistan is concerned, as long as they are on good terms with BCCI and have their base in India, they will continue to develop as a Limited Overs team. Asian cricket on the whole is not dead bar India, but the power has certainly start to shift.
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As long as politics is involved and politicians runs BCB, Bangladesh doesn’t have a bright future. Our current 100 kph captain is a MP :moyo

India on the other hand are like Australia of the Punter era
 
Bangladesh has enough experience to win more matches even getting to semis of tournaments like World cup. But they miss X-factors that can turn the game on its head. They are a steady team. If i were Bangladesh i would bat first in every match.
 
Deewana said:
Who do you think is currently second best Asian side
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It is pretty close between Pakistan and Bangladesh. Pakistan probably have the edge because they are capable of beating more teams than Bangladesh at the moment or fluke a tournament win like the Champions Trophy. Bangladesh are not there yet, but they are on the right track.
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
As long as politics is involved and politicians runs BCB, Bangladesh doesn’t have a bright future. Our current 100 kph captain is a MP :moyo

India on the other hand are like Australia of the Punter era
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Asian cricket boards will always be politicised, but as long as they don't hinder the growth of the game, it is not much of a problem.
 
Mamoon said:
It is pretty close between Pakistan and Bangladesh. Pakistan probably have the edge because they are capable of beating more teams than Bangladesh at the moment or fluke a tournament win like the Champions Trophy. Bangladesh are not there yet, but they are on the right track.
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I'd agree with this. Pk have higher peaks than us. They have a great 'A' game - even if its 1/10 games.
 
Mamoon said:
Bangladesh is a richer and more prosperous country than Pakistan now. I think they have a bright future ahead of them and will soon replace Pakistan as the number two Asian team.

Sri Lanka are in the dumps at the moment, but their mentality is not rotten like ours and their school cricket is exceptionally strong. At this point, they have a better chance than Pakistan of reviving their cricket.

As far as Afghanistan is concerned, as long as they are on good terms with BCCI and have their base in India, they will continue to develop as a Limited Overs team. Asian cricket on the whole is not dead bar India, but the power has certainly start to shift.
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NZ has 4mn people. It is structure rather than other factors, obviously bar talent which is cyclical.
 
bujhee kom said:
NZ has 4mn people. It is structure rather than other factors, obviously bar talent which is cyclical.
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They have an incredible sporting culture. All of their players grow up playing multiple sports and are proper athletes. That is why they always have plenty of fast bowlers and power-hitters, and from time to time, they produce genuinely great batsmen like Crowe, Williamson, Taylor etc. They will always be a very competitive team, but their small talent pool has probably prevented them from dominating the sport.
 
If the domestic game is healthy, eventually the sides in Asia will produce good cricketers. So the only one which could perhaps be described as dead - or perhaps more accurately, in a coma - is Pakistan. If they can produce a self-sustaining domestic game which funds itself the same way as in other countries, then it will eventually produce good cricketers as well. Maybe Wasim Khan will bring the changes necessary.
 
I am not going to talk about other countries, but cricket is far from dead in Pakistan and that will never happen as cricket is the only proper sporting game in the country. Pakistan are just going through a difficult time. If they can sort out domestic cricket things will get better. We won CT just two years ago with a mediocre team.
Even now we are competing okish, so just need to select players on merit, make them mentally stronger and we will be right up there.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
If the domestic game is healthy, eventually the sides in Asia will produce good cricketers. So the only one which could perhaps be described as dead - or perhaps more accurately, in a coma - is Pakistan. If they can produce a self-sustaining domestic game which funds itself the same way as in other countries, then it will eventually produce good cricketers as well. Maybe Wasim Khan will bring the changes necessary.
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Is this Wasim Khan a magician?
 
DrSchultz said:
Is this Wasim Khan a magician?
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Imran Khan found a mummy in England to head the PCB, who found a miracle worker in Leicestershire to impose Imran Khan's ideas in domestic cricket at 40 lakh rupees per month.
 
Mamoon said:
Imran Khan found a mummy in England to head the PCB, who found a miracle worker in Leicestershire to impose Imran Khan's ideas in domestic cricket at 40 lakh rupees per month.
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Should have given this job to a corrupt person like sethi then it would have been fine.
 
GoUgandaCranes said:
Pakistan is shorn of world class players at the moment but it's not as bad a side as the results are. At the moment we are being ridiculously unlucky and making some terrible management mistakes and being total idiots in the field. On average we are making about three critical mistakes a match and that's just too costly. Hopefully we will be able to get rid of a few players and then be a respectable team again.
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Pakistan need a very good caption & Coach badly . sarfraz doesn't inspire team anymore .
 
it was going down but it really took a nosedive when the SL team was attacked and international cricket was subsequently boycotted in Pakistan. The team has since been in limbo. We need cricket to return to Pakistan, start winning some home games to balance out the losses on away games. We always lost games in away series but now its nothing but that. So naturally people and the players are low in confidence from not winning anything.
 
I think Sri Lanka has a much better chance than Pakistan to bounce back. Their school and club cricket is very strong. It is also a very sporting country that plays sports other than cricket.
 
A lot of posters are totally forgetting that not long ago Pakistan won the Champions Trophy. So how can their cricket be dead?
 
Khan12 said:
Should have given this job to a corrupt person like sethi then it would have been fine.
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Pakistan needs a PCB Chairman who has confidence in his own abilities and can take charge of restructuring domestic cricket himself. I have nothing against Wasim, but I think his appointment is a waste of money and an inefficient process.

Ehsan Mani’s appointment, like most of a Imran’s appointments, is a mistake.
 
DrSchultz said:
Is this Wasim Khan a magician?
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I don't think so, which is why I said maybe he will bring the changes necessary. At least it's a start. Perhaps he can identify areas which need development if nothing else. I'm assuming he's being paid big money to do something.
 
Mamoon said:
Pakistan needs a PCB Chairman who has confidence in his own abilities and can take charge of restructuring domestic cricket himself. I have nothing against Wasim, but I think his appointment is a waste of money and an inefficient process.

Ehsan Mani’s appointment, like most of a Imran’s appointments, is a mistake.
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At least he won't take 150k for personal holidays. We would see if he's good or not, but at least not corrupt unlike sethi.
 
Tbh i would like to say one thing
i feel like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is my inner voice, what ever i feel or think (about cricket) he posts it
Pakpassion is lucky to have such posters
If only we had even 10% people like Mamoon in cricket board we would have been a much more competitive side
 
bujhee kom said:
Pk and Lanka have regressed alarmingly. We were never established as such anyway. Our progress has been too slow. India are an elite side. Asian cricket is in a bad state overall.
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SL won a test series in SA recently which was arguably the greatest away test series win for us.
 
BreadPakoda said:
A lot of posters are totally forgetting that not long ago Pakistan won the Champions Trophy. So how can their cricket be dead?
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They will win a series against Sri Lanka or West Indies in the next year or so and will become "cornered tigers" once again for future tournaments.

Pakistani fans who are "introspecting" right now will cheer for their team as if its Lloyd's WI or Waugh's Australia.

Indians will be reminded of CT17 final in every thread but no mention of Asia Cup or CWC will be there.

Mamoon will call PCT pathetic and people will hate him for it.
 
India are clearly ahead. Bangladesh are improving. Sri Lanka and Pakistan need to make improvements, but I think there is talented players coming through in both countries. Afghanistan key players are 30 plus and they still have no proper domestic structure. They will be competitive in Asia and in T20s, for them to take the next step they need to have a proper first class system.
 
Bangladesh are better than Pakistan for mine. Have been for a while.

I back them to defeat Pakistan in the upcoming game. Just wait and watch.
 
CT 2017 was won due to an unknown commodity in Fakhar Zaman.

He single handedly changed our fortunes for the tournament by giving us rollicking starts.

But now he's been found out.
 
Contrary to the tone of this thread, health of Asian bloc is fine.
 
Asian cricket is not dead. However, India has gotten miles ahead.

Also, Afghanistan is kind of rising.
 
Of all the nations in Asia, imagine a Pakistani saying this whose Prime Minister is a legend of the game! I for one believe that Imran Khan will eventually do something substantial for Pakistan cricket as well as for Pakistan, the country.
 
Funnily, India won't have anything tangible to show for their so called "dominance".
 
Its stupid to think that cricket in Pakistan or Bangladesh is dead. As long as cricket is alive in India, it will remain alive in both Pakistan and Bangladesh too. :inti
 
Pakistan needs to get its act together. Terrible players have been coming through far too regularly
 
WengerOut said:
Funnily, India won't have anything tangible to show for their so called "dominance".
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They are going through one of the longest reigns at the top in teet cricket. Worth more than trophies.
 
Except big 3, cricket seems to be at it's low in all countries..

Except Big 3 & New Zealand!
 
Yes, because Sri Lanka didn't just beat South Africa in South Africa...because Pakistan currently doesn't have Babar Azam and Shaheen Afridi...but India did just win in South Africa and England and also won the World Cup...
 
WengerOut said:
Funnily, India won't have anything tangible to show for their so called "dominance".
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lol being number 1 in test cricket which is the hardest and truest form of the game for 36 months in a row is greater than any trophy or accolade.
Maybe india can win the world cup in 2023 or even the champions league in 2021.
 
tyron_woodley said:
lol being number 1 in test cricket which is the hardest and truest form of the game for 36 months in a row is greater than any trophy or accolade.
Maybe india can win the world cup in 2023 or even the champions league in 2021.
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It’s good enough to get Misbah appointed so it’s definitely an accolade that’s needs to be lauded

I think India’s dominance will end once the ipl loses its lustre which could be when the psl and the hundred format began to bear fruition
It’s not great for Asia especially when you look at the current sri lankan squad
 
chacha kashmiri said:
It’s good enough to get Misbah appointed so it’s definitely an accolade that’s needs to be lauded

I think India’s dominance will end once the ipl loses its lustre which could be when the psl and the hundred format began to bear fruition
It’s not great for Asia especially when you look at the current sri lankan squad
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Ipl will never lose its lustre. 100 format is rubbish. I hope to dear God it doesnt bear fruition.
Either way ipl will remain a quality league due to the money being pumped into in. It's like the premier league of cricket. We could even have a champions league Franchise league which involves all top franchise teams from all over the world.
like Mumbai Indians vs the best team of psl or big bash etc.
 
I am hearing a lot about India's dominance. They have improved at home by being more ruthless. Outside it, they are still meek. One series win against an understrngth Aus won't change the fact. Their 2003 drawn series is always downgraded because of that fact.
 
WengerOut said:
I am hearing a lot about India's dominance. They have improved at home by being more ruthless. Outside it, they are still meek. One series win against an understrngth Aus won't change the fact. Their 2003 drawn series is always downgraded because of that fact.
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Whatever. Still doesn't change the fact that we've been the best test side for over 3 years and won the mace thrice in a row.
 
Cricket never started dying in Asia, yes some teams regressed, but it never died. Pakistan cricket is on it's way up again after almost 2 terrible decades. We are finally getting players like Babar, Shaheen and there are genuine talents coming through U19. When was the last time Pakistan had 4 teenage pacers who could bowl around or above 145kph. Or class batsmen like Babar or Haris Sohail.

Sri Lanka are going through a tough patch, but they seem to be slowly cloming out of it.
 
WengerOut said:
I am hearing a lot about India's dominance. They have improved at home by being more ruthless. Outside it, they are still meek. One series win against an understrngth Aus won't change the fact. Their 2003 drawn series is always downgraded because of that fact.
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no other team is able to dominate at home so ruthlessly. This is a great team. Get over it. 2003 was overrated lol. 2004 win for Aussies was overrated too because kumble and tendulkar dint even play all the games. Works both ways. A win is a win. whether smith played or not, they were going to lose that series regardless. Indian outboard them, outspanked them, outmuscled them and also the toss would play a role. kohli never loses when he wins the toss.
 
For some reason, I am getting a strong feeling that Pakistan will the test series in Australia.
 
Varun said:
Even drawing a single test will be a start.
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Their best bet to draw a test in Australia will be at the Gabba. Adelaide will always have a result.

Gabba is flat and if they learn to just duck under the short ball, then they have a chance. If Pakistan can even get away with a 1-0 to Australia then that will be pretty big for Pakistan in terms of the test championship.
 
Shoaib88 said:
For some reason, I am getting a strong feeling that Pakistan will the test series in Australia.
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I think people will be surprised honestly. I have a good feeling about this series. Boys will shine.
I reckon 1-1.
I wish it were a 3 test series. Would have been better to find a winner should both teams draw over the 2 test series.
 
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