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Asif Ali must develop into a part time bowler

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I fully understand why Mickey Arthur backs this guy, he has some incredibly powerful six hitting ability and really packs a punch. He is someone along with Faheem Ashraf who has got to be backed for our ODI and T-20 Cricket.

However the problem with his syle of play is that the odd failure will be inevitable and with the odd failure he will invite scrutiny. But if he will not be super consistent with the bat, he has got to offer something with the ball and in the field in order to compensate for the failure with the bat as that will end up easing the pressure on him.

I seriously hopes he is able to roll his arm over and contribute atleast 5 overs in ODI's atleast and a few overs in T-20 cricket.
 
Asif321 said:
Shadab should develop into top order batsmen
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Shadab is more of a bowling all rounder. He is not someone who is a power hitter and you cannot expect such from him. In T-20's and ODI's, his best role would be to bat normally in the event of a collapse where some normal cricket is required. I believe Shadab will be more useful in test matches to be honest with the bat as he will not be pressed about the scoring rate
 
He already is a medium-fast bowler.

His bowling average is 13.00 in T20s. Albeit at a economy rate of 6.50.
 
Asif Ali need to be persisted with, give him confidence so that he can be match winner. He has a great six hitting talent, such players come once in a decade.
 
I think he should focus more on rounding off his batting ability. He is a great hitter, but the way he currently plays (and with the rest of our batting performing the way they are) he isn't performing too well. He is good for T20s but in one-days he's only effective when our batting is well set to launch in the last 10-15 overs. Whenever our batting collapses he pushes the ball around but then tries to ease off the pressure by getting a boundary and so far hasn't been successful in doing that. Therefore, he should keep playing the way he does, but also develop the ability to rotate the strike in case the batting collapses.

Either that, or he can become a decent part-timer/batting all-rounder. But, I think we should persist with him as an aggressive batsman rather than overloading him with bowling duties.
 
He needs to improve his ability to rotate strike and learn how to build an innings first.
 
I'll happily take him if he develops his batting only.

That needs to be worked on - he has potential to hit, but right now only able to do it when the bowler is bowling trash, in his zone.
 
I think he got too bogged down in that game against Bangladesh. Imam's continuous peppering only added to his confusion. I am sure had he played his natural game once he crossed 20 we probably would have had a better shot at it. But, can't blame Imam or him for that as they were trying to take the game into last 5 overs to launch an offensive from there.

The guy has tremendous potential as a hitter but i agree that he needs to tighten up his defensive game a lot in order for him to have any success in International cricket.
 
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Muddaser said:
Rather have Sohaib Maqsood.

Better batsmen and can bowl.
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The guy has fallen completely from favor and i think its all do it with his fitness, work ethics and discipline otherwise he could have been an asset in this line up though he still can make a come up provided he gets his act together.
 
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I really don't want him in the team.He doesn't look that special to me.He can play t20is but I won't have in my odi team.
 
We're still searching for the next Abdul Razzaq or Shahid Afridi. This guy is neither and should be dropped from the ODI side.
 
ShahidDar08 said:
Asif Ali need to be persisted with, give him confidence so that he can be match winner. He has a great six hitting talent, such players come once in a decade.
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Lol no. Every IPL/BBL/CPL team has a player sitting on the bench who can strike the ball like Asif Ali does.

You are seriously overrating someone who is nothing more than a T20 player.
 
shaaik said:
The guy has fallen completely from favor and i think its all do it with his fitness, work ethics and discipline otherwise he could have been an asset in this line up though he still can make a come up provided he gets his act together.
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Yes he can definitely.

Honestly dont see what people see in Asif Ali.

Club level cricketer if there ever was one.

No wonder our batting is weak.

Our team is bowler heavy and to make things worse we play the likes of Asif Ali.
 
Asif ali at #6 is of no use, we generally do not reach to that point where we need 70 of 50 kind of scenario.
If he is to play he can come at #4 or at time where we need to ump up run rate.
In my opinion Shoaib Malik is far better hitter than anyone in the team. And I think, Hafeez should be in the team, not as an opener but at #6 batting order. Hafeez and Malik are much better hitters than what we have now.

My XI:

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Sarfaraz
Haris Sohail
Hafeez
Malik
Shadab/Imad
Faheem
Junaid
Hassan
 
It would balance the side out so much more.

He's not good enough to be a number 6 batsman in an already weak batting line up.

He's not even as good as Yusuf Pathan
 
the_outsider said:
Lol no. Every IPL/BBL/CPL team has a player sitting on the bench who can strike the ball like Asif Ali does.

You are seriously overrating someone who is nothing more than a T20 player.
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What we have to do with IPL teams, i m talking about Pakistan cricket. After shahid Afridi and Razzaz he is the only batsman who can hit at will.
 
These days bunch of funny threads becoming part of cricket section. Asif first needs to become a batsmen well.. with his age this is not the time to "develop" anything. So basically we are stuck with another hype player.

Thanks Micky you seem to be losing your vision pretty quick :mv
 
First he needs to seal his spot as a batsman. Bowling part time is not required now.

Harris , fakhar , mailk can all bowl part time.
 
han jese halwa hai na part time bowler banna. Yahn humara full time bowler, (Shady) bowling karna bhool gya hai
 
I had a dream we were playing New Zealand in New Zealand, we were 105/4 and he came in and smashed 16 fours and 4 sixes. He got his 100 in 46 balls, Fakhar got 113.

We scored 344 and NZ was all out for 180.
 
If somebody like Kedar Jadav can turn his arm around then what is the problem with Asif doing the same?
 
Looking worse in every outing Asif is - think this could be his last series if he doesnt do anything special.
 
MenInG said:
Looking worse in every outing Asif is - think this could be his last series if he doesnt do anything special.
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He needs to learn how to play spin. Every time I've seen him, he always looks at sea vs spinners.
 
Pakistani Buttler’s future looking bleak at this point. Could be discarded for good after the New Zealand series, or perhaps before.
 
Never. In the era where Pakistan is craving a dependable number 6 who can steady the innings as well as hit out consistently at the death, the last thing you'd want is an all-rounder at 6 who becomes a part-timer in both the facets. Asif Ali needs to further strengthen his batting. There's no doubting his ability to hit big but with the fragile batting lineup that Pakistan has, Asif would come in the 30-35th over more often than he would after 40 overs. He has to develop that game where he comes in the 30th over, milks the bowling around for 15 overs and explodes at the end. Similar to what Buttler does for England. Irrespective of his form, I believe he's a must for the World Cup. The WC will be played on flat batting tracks and we don't have a single player in the domestic who could hit it out of the park like Asif can. And if you don't have a hitter in your lineup, you'd be settling for a 270ish score which would simply not be good enough.
 
lol at everyone, do you even watch the games. asif ali is there to up the tempo, and more often than not has delivered for pakistan. he doesn't need to bowl, instead the bowlers should do their job and all the batsmen their job. it's funny how batsman should learn to bowl in pakistan as if they are kohlis and don't need any practice. if anything, the batsmen need to practice 12 hrs per day on their batting alone, bc they make chasing 220+ against a good opposition as if we are chasing 300+.
 
If he can't play spin I don't see how he can merit a spot in the Pakistan team. He is basically a walking wicket against spin like those Windies Lefty openers used to be against Hafeez. He can't even survive against spin.

All he had to do yesterday was play out the spinner with singles and attack the pacers. He has no idea what his strengths even are. I don't think he'll be around for long if he continues to leave his brain in the changing room every time he comes out to bat.

He's like a homeless man's Razzaq. Kamran Ghulam is knocking down the selection door and he provides another bowling option as well.
 
Asif Ali should develop basic batting skills, so that he can improve his FC batting average from 23 to 35, otherwise he might end up making his FC team on account of being PAK squad member. I guess, that’ll be easier to accomplish, rather than trying to be a good enough 5th bowler in a international cricket. And, in that bowling effort, if that FC average of 23 comes down to 19...... you know.

PAK should stop backing tulle baaz bat handler based on few chancy knocks, rather should have invested to fix (in every aspect) the likes of Umar Akmal, Shoaib Maqsood or Sharjeel Khan; because these guys are natural stroke players - can play proper cricket shots aggressively and won’t be choked by a tactics when their game is exposed to international teams after few games.

If it’s so easy to add a dimension in international cricket (either way - batting or bowling), I’ll say, PAK should have tried to teach Mo Irfan (the 7 feeter guy) connecting slog swings. With his bowling intact, 19/125 batting stats would have better fitted in “Josh Buttler” role in Lance Kluesner mould. Or, Asif can start keeping - that’ll take him closer to “Josh Buttler” role.
 
He always seems like he will get out after this delivery. So insecure batting. He needs to develop basic batting skills. Even if he plays few dots against spin if he can survive against spin and boost the innings at the end. He'll be a better option for Pakistan at 6.
 
First he needs to develop into a part-time batsman...
 
he is going to be dropped soon,another Misbah buddy good for nothing was unfairly included in odi based on psl,Saud Shakil has to come in to the team or Hussain talat.
 
I don't think that's possible or certainly I don't think he can do it by the world Cup. He's already got to fix problems with his batting at the same time.

He'd be a great addition at 7 for a lot of line ups, but I think ours is a bit too fragile, and lacks a bowler if Asif plays at 7.

It seems easier to just pick Talat who can already bowl and probably has more potential forging an innings than Asif. Or Imad who can be relied on to bowl 10 overs and still bat a bit.

But you're right if Asif could bowl, his place would less be in question. He's not like Shadab or Fahim who aren't good enough to bat at 7 IMO, he actually feels dangerous on the crease and can be relied on to hit.
 
DRsohail said:
he is going to be dropped soon,another Misbah buddy good for nothing was unfairly included in odi based on psl,Saud Shakil has to come in to the team or Hussain talat.
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None of those guys fit in the lower order, though...
 
The whole premise of the thread is a bit absurd, he can't suddenly just start bowling at a level which will be acceptable in international cricket, when there is no sign of him being a bowler even in domestic cricket.

What he needs to do is to figure out his issues against spin (this requires a lot of work...) and give himself a bit of time at the crease, no need to go full Afridi.
 
Abdullah719 said:
None of those guys fit in the lower order, though...
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Honestly I'd even take Azhar Ali at number 6 over Asif atm (can't believe I said that). Asif seems like a complete hack at this level and his domestic stats suggest that is about par for him.
 
Syed1 said:
Honestly I'd even take Azhar Ali at number 6 over Asif atm
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he'd be the first name on the list at number 7 if he could have bowled some off spin.

kedar jadav can bowl some mixed pakoras why the hell can't asif?

as a pure batsman, there is no chance in hell should he be in the pakistan ODI side.
 
Chokli said:
he'd be the first name on the list at number 7 if he could have bowled some off spin.

kedar jadav can bowl some mixed pakoras why the hell can't asif?

as a pure batsman, there is no chance in hell should he be in the pakistan ODI side.
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He should focus on being that "pure" batsman first.
 
PakPassion Users - Complain that there are too many bits and pieces players in the team, not enough pure batsmen.

Also PakPassion users - Make one of the few pure batsman in our team a part-timer

:)):)):))
 
Hamad_H said:
PakPassion Users - Complain that there are too many bits and pieces players in the team, not enough pure batsmen.

Also PakPassion users - Make one of the few pure batsman in our team a part-timer

:)):)):))
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asif ali isn't a pure batsman
 
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