At farewell presser, Karachi mayor lashes out at Sindh govt for hindering city's development

[Major]

Karachi Mayor Wasim Akhtar got visibly emotional on Monday while addressing the last press conference of his tenure, claiming that the Sindh government didn't want development to take place in the city.

Speaking to the media at the KMC head office recounting his performance over the past four years, he said that he had written "thousands" of letters to the Sindh government as well as the prime minister and the president.

"Who will take these? Not a single reply was given," he said, tossing the papers and getting teary eyed.

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"Karachi feeds you and your children. You have set up shop here after coming from different districts. This is Paris for you. I have seen the houses you have purchased in Defence and Clifton.

"Why are you inflicting torture on the people of the city? I have written thousands of letters. I am not joking, the Supreme Court should take notice, the prime minister should do something for this city.

"I am not being dramatic. I have spent the last four years stressed because of the Sindh government and the chief minister.

"They don't want development, not just in Karachi but in all of Sindh. They just want to loot the city," he said, adding that the provincial government had "destroyed" Larkana, Sehwan, Dadu and Mirpurkhas.

"What have they done in the past 12 years? They are now here to destroy this city. They are dividing it. Someone should question them."

He added that the Sindh chief minister had a lesser mandate than him. "Halve the population of Sindh, that is my mandate. My mandate is more than the chief minister and no one answers my letters?"

He added that he had been working for the past four year to fix his departments but was unable to do so due to a lack of funds. "If I don't have funds, what will I do? Bring them from home?"

He said that in the past four years, he had not bought a car, nor let anybody else buy one. "I saved money."

Akhtar also lashed out at the premier for sending the National Disaster Management Authority (NDMA) to the city to help with the situation after the monsoon rainfall.

"The prime minister saw two men drowning [in the city] on TV and sent the NDMA. PM sahab, you should come here yourself. This city is responsible for your budget. Nothing can be done by sitting over there. Come and fix the city, nothing is achieved by forming committees," he said, referring to the body formed for the city's betterment.

On August 10, Akhtar, who is also a central leader of the MQM-P, had told reporters that his tenure was about to end on August 28 and he was not foreseeing the next local government elections to be held anytime soon.

Four days later, while hinting at the local government elections, PPP chairman Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari had made a formal announcement that his party’s government in Sindh would control the administrative affairs of Karachi following the completion of term of the elected local governments.

Last time, the PPP, which has been ruling Sindh for the past over 12 years, took five years to hold the LG elections across the province — that too on the orders of the Supreme Court — in 2015 after the dissolution of the then district government system in 2010.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1576218/a...at-sindh-govt-for-hindering-citys-development

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

PPP has as much love for Karachi, as Narendra Modi has for Indian Muslims.

 

[RickyG]

Imran Khan/PTI turns a blind eye to Karachi because to them Pakistan begins in Kp and ends in Punjab. But PPP loot and aim to destroy Karachi. They've done nothing for the development of a wonderful city that should be thriving. Instead they use it as their personal cash cow.

I feel for Wasim Akhtar. Just like I felt for Mustafa Kamal. These are honest loyal hard-working people from Karachi who are constantly let-down by the trash Punjab based federal governments and Wadera controlled provincial governments.

The kicker is that the Punjabis and Sindhis that come to Karachi for employment hate the city that feeds them and remain loyal to their Waderas/jagidars and their ethnically racist mindsets.

 

[RickyG]

Oh and it's hard to forget how the PTI/PPP/PMLN have treated Waseem Akhtar. Having him arrested and tried for baseless charges with forged evidence. It's what happens if you're urdu-speaking/mohajir and try to be involved in politics.

 

[Syed1]

Imran Khan/PTI turns a blind eye to Karachi because to them Pakistan begins in Kp and ends in Punjab. But PPP loot and aim to destroy Karachi. They've done nothing for the development of a wonderful city that should be thriving. Instead they use it as their personal cash cow.

I feel for Wasim Akhtar. Just like I felt for Mustafa Kamal. These are honest loyal hard-working people from Karachi who are constantly let-down by the trash Punjab based federal governments and Wadera controlled provincial governments.

The kicker is that the Punjabis and Sindhis that come to Karachi for employment hate the city that feeds them and remain loyal to their Waderas/jagidars and their ethnically racist mindsets.

Oh don't equate Mustafa Kamal with Wasim Akhtar. MK actually changed the face of the city, while WA kept crying about lack of authority yet continued to enjoy perks and privileges. Now that his tenure is ending in a couple of days he has found his tongue.

WA's biggest critic is MK himself. WA was busy in his night parties and cocaine while the city was being destroyed. Also the MQM act all innocent but they voted for this same 18th amendment that is like a noose around Karachi's neck. MQM also voted in favour of repealing Musharraf's local government system that was working so well for Karachi and helped bring this 'powerless' local government system. No point crying now.


And before you go all racist on me I'm born and raised Urdu speaking Karachi wala.

 

[RickyG]

Oh Mr Altafist don't equate Mustafa Kamal with Wasim Akhtar. MK actually changed the face of the city, while WA kept crying about lack of authority yet continued to enjoy perks and privileges. Now that his tenure is ending in a couple of days he has found his tongue.

WA's biggest critic is MK himself. WA was busy in his night parties and cocaine while the city was being destroyed. Also the MQM act all innocent but they voted for this same 18th amendment that is like a noose around Karachi's neck. MQM also voted in favour of repealing Musharraf's local government system that was working so well for Karachi and helped bring this 'powerless' local government system. No point crying now.


And before you go all racist on me I'm born and raised Urdu speaking Karachi wala.

MK was part of MQM then too. You're an Urdu speaking Karachi wala but your loyalties aren't with Karachi clearly. I highly doubt you venture beyond DHA areas. I have a lot of friends like you that claim they're from Karachi but don't actually know Karachi. It's okay.

My post had nothing to do with MQM and I have no loyalties to Karachi. I strongly believe in having a Mayor system but it shouldn't be a puppet post. PPP always treat it as a puppet post when they've bothered to hold elections for it. MK was successful because for once it wasn't a Punjabi or Sindhi civilian.

I don't have any love for Altaf whatsoever. Never have and never will. And I don't get into party politics unlike you but I will say that MQM has done more for Karachi than PPP/PTI/PMLN (whichever your beloved is). My assumption is you're blindly faithful to Imran Khan and I will suggest that you shouldn't put blind faith in any party. You should assess the individuals and their performances.

 

[RickyG]

Oh Mr Altafist don't equate Mustafa Kamal with Wasim Akhtar. MK actually changed the face of the city, while WA kept crying about lack of authority yet continued to enjoy perks and privileges. Now that his tenure is ending in a couple of days he has found his tongue.

WA's biggest critic is MK himself. WA was busy in his night parties and cocaine while the city was being destroyed. Also the MQM act all innocent but they voted for this same 18th amendment that is like a noose around Karachi's neck. MQM also voted in favour of repealing Musharraf's local government system that was working so well for Karachi and helped bring this 'powerless' local government system. No point crying now.


And before you go all racist on me I'm born and raised Urdu speaking Karachi wala.

One more thing. It's obvious you have no loyalty to the city if you're defending the PPP provincial government here. I wonder who writes your paycheques....

 

[Syed1]

One more thing. It's obvious you have no loyalty to the city if you're defending the PPP provincial government here. I wonder who writes your paycheques....

LMAO I'm defending PPP????


I probably hate them more than you Mr. Altafist. It's just that I see through the lies of MQM and how they are hand in glove with PPP.


WA was Mayor for 4 years. Name one achievement of his tenure? A single road or underpass he got built? A single nullah he got cleaned? Heck did he protest in front of CM's office? Try and approach SHC or SC to get his rights?

 

[RickyG]

LMAO I'm defending PPP????


I probably hate them more than you Mr. Altafist. It's just that I see through the lies of MQM and how they are hand in glove with PPP.


WA was Mayor for 4 years. Name one achievement of his tenure? A single road or underpass he got built? A single nullah he got cleaned? Heck did he protest in front of CM's office? Try and approach SHC or SC to get his rights?

Actually he did approach SC. He was told to go home by Gulzar Ahmed who was appointed to the SC by your beloved Zardari.

You can call me whatever suits your ignorant agenda but I am not going to sit here and accept that PPP is not at fault for Karachi's problems. Your provocative slurs are an indication that you lack an argument and knowledge.

Right or wrong, Lahore gets 50+% of Punjab's budget. It's obvious you're ignorant to the fact that Karachi has been underfunded for years. I don't think you understand that people can be in power but without a requisite budget it's hard to accomplish anything.

You're clueless about the fact that the PPP Provincial government controlled Karachi by not holding elections. And when elections were held they went after the rightfully elected mayor with bogus charges. Then they underfunded the city to render him helpless and powerless. That is how PPP de facto controlled Karachi.

You obviously don't understand the importance of a municipal government. I personally care very little which party is in charge of the municipal government as long as there is one. If the party does a poor job then they won't get re-elected. This will hold specially true for Karachi because most people there aren't owned by Waderas and Jagidars nor are they enamoured by the big-talking rich & famous (well except for you as you might fall under both categories).

And you're constantly accusing MQM mayors of doing nothing which is not entirely true. Mustafa Kamal did a great job as long as PPP was a non-entity. But have you forgotten the terrible state the city was in under PPP rule? Did you forget Uzair Baloch and PPP's Lyari activities? The number of ethnic and religion-based target killings that took place at the time.

 

[Bigboii]

So the mayor literally cried because he is sick and tired of PPP and their treatment towards Karachi

Imo that's powerful stuff I don't know if it'll achieve much but atleast he put himself out there and told people that hey I am doing everything in my power to make this thing work but I just can't

Hopefully this will stop the MQM bashing cause yes they were bad but they're (were) always competent

 

[Major]

I will suggest that you shouldn't put blind faith in any party. You should assess the individuals and their performances.

this is the problem of our politics.

i remember during the recent election, most people did not care or know who was the individual they were voting for. They were voting for Party, be it National or provincial.

Heck, even amir liaqut would win a seat

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Imran Khan/PTI turns a blind eye to Karachi because to them Pakistan begins in Kp and ends in Punjab. But PPP loot and aim to destroy Karachi. They've done nothing for the development of a wonderful city that should be thriving. Instead they use it as their personal cash cow.

I feel for Wasim Akhtar. Just like I felt for Mustafa Kamal. These are honest loyal hard-working people from Karachi who are constantly let-down by the trash Punjab based federal governments and Wadera controlled provincial governments.

The kicker is that the Punjabis and Sindhis that come to Karachi for employment hate the city that feeds them and remain loyal to their Waderas/jagidars and their ethnically racist mindsets.

No. Its because they dont have majority in Sindh. They are trying there best to do what they can within their constitutional limit.

 

[MenInG]

have deleted some personal stuff.

Be very careful in the way you address each other

 

[Firebat]

Sindh govt appoints Sohail Rajput as Karachi commissioner

The Sindh government on Tuesday appointed Dr Muhammad Sohail Rajput, a Grade 21 officer of the Pakistan Administrative Service, as the commissioner of Karachi with immediate effect.

Mr Rajput replaces Dr Iftikhar Ali Shallwani, who has now been appointed as provincial secretary for local government.

The move comes a day after the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) arrested provincial local government secretary Roshan Ali Shaikh and two former officials of the Karachi Metropolitan Corporation (KMC) as the Sindh High Court dismissed their pre-arrest bail applications in a case involving the illegal allotment of land.

A notification dated today said: "Dr Muhammad Sohail Rajput, an officer of PAS (**-21), is posted with immediate effect and until further orders as commissioner, Karachi Division, vice Dr Iftikhar Ali Shallwani, an officer of PAS (**-21), transferred."

A separate notification said that Shallwani has been "transferred and posted as the Local Government and Housing Town Planning Department secretary with immediate effect and until further orders".

The notification also directed Shaikh to report to the Services, General Administration and Coordination Department.

On Monday, a two-judge bench comprising Justice K.K. Agha and Justice Zulfiqar Ali Sangi, turned down the pre-arrest bail of Shaikh, former administrator of Karachi Fazalur Rehman, former director of land (KMC) Mohammad Waseem, former deputy director Sohail Yar Khan and four others. They had been on interim bail since 2018.

The bench also granted post-arrest bail to former Karachi commissioner Shoukat Hussain Jokhio, former director of land Saif Abbas and another accused against a surety bond of Rs2 million each and directed the secretary of the ministry of interior to place their names on the exit control list.

NAB personnel arrested Shaikh on the premises of the SHC after he spent around five hours in the courtroom following the dismissal of his bail while Fazalur Rehman and Waseem were also apprehended by the anti-graft watchdog.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1576391/sindh-govt-appoints-sohail-rajput-as-karachi-commissioner

 

[Pakpak]

Imran Khan/PTI turns a blind eye to Karachi because to them Pakistan begins in Kp and ends in Punjab. But PPP loot and aim to destroy Karachi. They've done nothing for the development of a wonderful city that should be thriving. Instead they use it as their personal cash cow.

I feel for Wasim Akhtar. Just like I felt for Mustafa Kamal. These are honest loyal hard-working people from Karachi who are constantly let-down by the trash Punjab based federal governments and Wadera controlled provincial governments.

The kicker is that the Punjabis and Sindhis that come to Karachi for employment hate the city that feeds them and remain loyal to their Waderas/jagidars and their ethnically racist mindsets.

Yeah PPP, Musharraf and Zia were Punjabis.

PTI can only do limited efforts in Karachi due to PPP.

 

[Slog]

Punjab lives off Karachi

 

[finalfantasy7]

Punjab lives off Karachi

how so?

 

[Greenstorm]

Punjab lives off Karachi

Victim mentality is strong among Karachites.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Karachi is irredeemable. The system is a hodgepodge where no one knows what their actual job is and where everyone what’s to create hinderences in everyone else’s jobs. Everyone is full of **** and it reflects on the city through its physical manifestation.

 

[Slog]

Victim mentality is strong among Karachites.

No victim mentality. Just facts. Check out which city contributes most to the national exchequer and how many cities after that have to add up to contribute an equivalent amount..

 

[Syed1]

Karachi is irredeemable. The system is a hodgepodge where no one knows what their actual job is and where everyone what’s to create hinderences in everyone else’s jobs. Everyone is full of **** and it reflects on the city through its physical manifestation.

I'll try again maybe this time it will be acceptable



Why do you liberals have trouble blaming PPP? When will your Bhutto finally die after being buried for 40 years?


What sort of logic is this 'no one knows what their actual job is'. Well news flash Mr. liberal. It's the PPP's job. They are in the Sindh government for 12 years. They even took away waste collection and sewerage from the local government.


If the same situation was in Lahore you liberals would be putting blame squarely on PTI's Punjab government. Same rules do not apply to the PPP Sindh government because they are liberal of course. Jiay liberalism.

 

[Stewie]

As I read through this thread, I see a lot of expression of pain from karachiites (understandable and justifiable), angst over the situation and the handling by Sindh govt (also understandable and justifiable) and then it is all followed by a sudden generalization and stereotyping of all Sindhis and punjabis as waderas or jagirdars who just want to loot and pillage karachi and actually hate the city.... that part I completely disagree with.

Karachi is not (and will not be) the only city in Pakistan that suffers from a culture of corruption and greed in the country. The incompetence is widespread and a lot of other cities have areas that have suffered from it too. You think it’s all about lahore or islamabad?
You should go visit some of the bad neighborhoods in lahore and Rawalpindi area.

Our officials are equal opportunity incompetent goons. They don’t discriminate on the basis of ethnicity.

That being said, I admit karachi has a huge problem. And the problem is so many factions trying to control it and that struggle over the years has created a giant cluster f*** of a situation. Those of you who are praising MQM doing good work, please be mindful that MQM is equally and in some sense even more responsible for the situation Karachi finds itself in today. While the federal government and other parties can be blamed for an attitude of indifference or neglect towards the city, MQM has actually actively been engaged in activities that have been detrimental to the state of law and order and development.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

I'll try again maybe this time it will be acceptable



Why do you liberals have trouble blaming PPP? When will your Bhutto finally die after being buried for 40 years?


What sort of logic is this 'no one knows what their actual job is'. Well news flash Mr. liberal. It's the PPP's job. They are in the Sindh government for 12 years. They even took away waste collection and sewerage from the local government.


If the same situation was in Lahore you liberals would be putting blame squarely on PTI's Punjab government. Same rules do not apply to the PPP Sindh government because they are liberal of course. Jiay liberalism.

Please don’t call me a liberal. I’m not.
PPP is the root cause of most of our current evils but not all.
I don’t know about you but I was born and raised in Karachi and I can say with absolute certainty that even if the government provided bins at every doorsteps, people of Karachi would through their rubbish anywhere but those bins. That is before they get stollen. And that’s where the government comes into play. Our Police is corrupt and unapproachable so no one report crimes (including the theft of basic public property). If local government, MQM in this case provide these facilities/properties, PPP will nick/destroy them. And if PPP does something in the city (which they seldom do, if ever) then MQM would do the same. Then there are ghost government workers who draws check from government coffers but never show up for their job. And that kind of behaviour has found patronage in both parties.
But you go on mate. Do your thing.

 

[Giannis]

Punjab lives off Karachi

Sindh*

 

[Savak]

Karachi should be made the second capital of the country and be under complete Federal Govt ownership.

 

[Stewie]

Punjab lives off Karachi

So what? So what if the whole country does? And it does in a lot of ways. In most third world countries, there is usually only one city that’s the hub of economy... karachi is not in a unique position in that respect. Where it is falling to the dogs is when certain people (read ethnicities, political factions, provincial and local government) start using its status to extend their own power. Karachi is a Pakistani country. It is not a personal inheritance of Sindhis, punjabis, urdu speaking people, pathans, balochis, etc.

It should be for EVERYONE. Which means the people there should vote for those who represent everyone and not an ethnicity. It’s the incompetent people that are voted in or who by hook or by crook take over that are responsible for this devastation.

We ourselves (all of us) regardless of our ethnicity to blame for the problems our economic hub faces.


Also in most countries it is not necessary that the biggest city which generates the most economically be the capitol. That’s another superfluous argument.
Bombay, New York City, etc are not capitols of their respective countries. In fact in the US most state capitols are also not their respective states biggest cities. It’s a way to distribute and manage resources and authority.

When it comes to Karachi problems, a lot of us go down the rabbit hole of out of context grievances..

 

[sa88]

No victim mentality. Just facts. Check out which city contributes most to the national exchequer and how many cities after that have to add up to contribute an equivalent amount..

That’s because most corporations have headquarters in Karachi. If you look at their operations they generate income and profit from operations all over Pakistan including Punjab.

Buts let’s not let a basic miss-understanding of tax reporting get in the way of Punjab bashing.

 

[Syed1]

That’s because most corporations have headquarters in Karachi. If you look at their operations they generate income and profit from operations all over Pakistan including Punjab.

Buts let’s not let a basic miss-understanding of tax reporting get in the way of Punjab bashing.

Hello sir it is better to be informed of the facts when one is trying to present an argument.

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[Major]

People crying about karachi bleeding, go take alook at how Baluchistan has been bled.

Today is the death anniversary of Bugti. We took sui gas from and gave nothing back to that province.

 

[Syed1]

People crying about karachi bleeding, go take alook at how Baluchistan has been bled.

Today is the death anniversary of Bugti. We took sui gas from and gave nothing back to that province.

Yup typical PPP jiyala.... Hide 12 years of loot, plunder and incompetence by changing goal posts.


While you brought the topic of Baluchistan, let's talk about it. Did you know even Baluchistan is improving far beyond Sindh. Heck take out Karachi then Sindh's literacy rate becomes even worse than Baluchistan. Furthermore the CM of Baluchistan is bringing unprecedented development to the province even with the shoe string budget that he has available. Recently famous author Paul Coeloho even retweeted a news about Baluchistan as to how libraries and reading rooms are being spread there.


Now back to the topic of Sindh. Just in 2020, I think 500 children will die in Thar because of lack of water.

 

[Slog]

As I read through this thread, I see a lot of expression of pain from karachiites (understandable and justifiable), angst over the situation and the handling by Sindh govt (also understandable and justifiable) and then it is all followed by a sudden generalization and stereotyping of all Sindhis and punjabis as waderas or jagirdars who just want to loot and pillage karachi and actually hate the city.... that part I completely disagree with.

Karachi is not (and will not be) the only city in Pakistan that suffers from a culture of corruption and greed in the country. The incompetence is widespread and a lot of other cities have areas that have suffered from it too. You think it’s all about lahore or islamabad?
You should go visit some of the bad neighborhoods in lahore and Rawalpindi area.

Our officials are equal opportunity incompetent goons. They don’t discriminate on the basis of ethnicity.

That being said, I admit karachi has a huge problem. And the problem is so many factions trying to control it and that struggle over the years has created a giant cluster f*** of a situation. Those of you who are praising MQM doing good work, please be mindful that MQM is equally and in some sense even more responsible for the situation Karachi finds itself in today. While the federal government and other parties can be blamed for an attitude of indifference or neglect towards the city, MQM has actually actively been engaged in activities that have been detrimental to the state of law and order and development.

[MENTION=17315]Stewie[/MENTION] - the problem is that Lahore, Peshawar or whichever city atleast is being screwed over by the parties who were voted in by the people. So they have a role in selecting that person. Karachi is being held hostage by a PPP viceroy who was never voted in by the people

 

[RickyG]

So what? So what if the whole country does? And it does in a lot of ways. In most third world countries, there is usually only one city that’s the hub of economy... karachi is not in a unique position in that respect. Where it is falling to the dogs is when certain people (read ethnicities, political factions, provincial and local government) start using its status to extend their own power. Karachi is a Pakistani country. It is not a personal inheritance of Sindhis, punjabis, urdu speaking people, pathans, balochis, etc.

It should be for EVERYONE. Which means the people there should vote for those who represent everyone and not an ethnicity. It’s the incompetent people that are voted in or who by hook or by crook take over that are responsible for this devastation.

We ourselves (all of us) regardless of our ethnicity to blame for the problems our economic hub faces.


Also in most countries it is not necessary that the biggest city which generates the most economically be the capitol. That’s another superfluous argument.
Bombay, New York City, etc are not capitols of their respective countries. In fact in the US most state capitols are also not their respective states biggest cities. It’s a way to distribute and manage resources and authority.

When it comes to Karachi problems, a lot of us go down the rabbit hole of out of context grievances..

I beg to differ. Karachi is not the cash cow for waderas and jagidars who are only concerned with Punjab or Sindh.

Karachi is a multi-ethnic city but it has also seen Sindhis try to enforce their Wadera culture. Punjabi’s only pop up to seek employment and take no ownership of the city. Note the people that play the ethnicity card more than anyone are Sindhis and Punjabi’s. The two biggest political parties in the country historically were ethnic parties. The only ethnic party from Karachi was a small regional party created by Zia to counter PPP.

And all those parties are engaged in the same crap but only the Karachi based political party gets flak. I do agree with you in your previous post that all parties are to blame. Mqm are not saints but they’ve contributed more for the development of the city than the other two. They’ve done a lot to harm Karachi but so have PPP and PMLN while giving nothing back. This is not me defending MQM before you accuse me of being pro-Fat dude in London. This is me painting the full picture. A lot of people get emotional when MQM comes up because of their disdain for Urdu speaking people.

Yes Karachi is a city of Pakistan. But it belongs to residents of Karachi. It’s resources belong to the people of Karachi. It’s time to stop under-funding it. In an ideal world, Karachi should have more sovereignty which allows Karachi to rule itself. It really should be it’s own province if provincial rule is the way to go.

 

[RickyG]

Victim mentality is strong among Karachites.

Would you be okay if Karachi-Hyderabad wanted to be their own province?

 

[Major]

Yup typical PPP jiyala.... Hide 12 years of loot, plunder and incompetence by changing goal posts.


While you brought the topic of Baluchistan, let's talk about it. Did you know even Baluchistan is improving far beyond Sindh. Heck take out Karachi then Sindh's literacy rate becomes even worse than Baluchistan. Furthermore the CM of Baluchistan is bringing unprecedented development to the province even with the shoe string budget that he has available. Recently famous author Paul Coeloho even retweeted a news about Baluchistan as to how libraries and reading rooms are being spread there.


Now back to the topic of Sindh. Just in 2020, I think 500 children will die in Thar because of lack of water.

Baluchistan literacy rate is below at the lower end of 40. Stop painting pictures here that karachi is worst off than Baluchistan
THe rural areas of Pakistan keep a literacy rate of 50% which is above what Baluchistan has.

THe libraries and reading rooms that are being spread don't get books or funding from the govt. The locals of the communicates are the ones that are helping by getting book donations through social media and making libraries. Paul Coelho asked people to donate books to them.

In balochistan, it has always been the locals who have to help themselves.

Sadly, at the end of the day, these books ain't gonna help them as they are of mostly english language. What they need is proper education system in place.

Heck, you can donate a CSS syllabus book, but some guy from Punjab or KPK will end up getting a domicile from Balochistan and get on the merit list for CSS.

 

[Stewie]

I beg to differ. Karachi is not the cash cow for waderas and jagidars who are only concerned with Punjab or Sindh.

Karachi is a multi-ethnic city but it has also seen Sindhis try to enforce their Wadera culture. Punjabi’s only pop up to seek employment and take no ownership of the city. Note the people that play the ethnicity card more than anyone are Sindhis and Punjabi’s. The two biggest political parties in the country historically were ethnic parties. The only ethnic party from Karachi was a small regional party created by Zia to counter PPP.

And all those parties are engaged in the same crap but only the Karachi based political party gets flak. I do agree with you in your previous post that all parties are to blame. Mqm are not saints but they’ve contributed more for the development of the city than the other two. They’ve done a lot to harm Karachi but so have PPP and PMLN while giving nothing back. This is not me defending MQM before you accuse me of being pro-Fat dude in London. This is me painting the full picture. A lot of people get emotional when MQM comes up because of their disdain for Urdu speaking people.

Yes Karachi is a city of Pakistan. But it belongs to residents of Karachi. It’s resources belong to the people of Karachi. It’s time to stop under-funding it. In an ideal world, Karachi should have more sovereignty which allows Karachi to rule itself. It really should be it’s own province if provincial rule is the way to go.

By all means continue to differ but at least have the common sense to see the flaws in your argument about karachi resources belonging only to citizens of Karachi. That’s not how the world works. If a city has employment opportunities, people from
All over the country will flock to it to work there. You can’t keep the citizens of a country from seeking employment in one of its own cities.

London, NYC, etc have majority residents who were not born there.. they moved there. Karachi kissi ki meeras nahi hai. How are you any different from the PPP waderas who are ruining it, and have ruined it in the past? Because they think Karachi is their own personal property.

Hope you see the point I’m trying to make!

 

[Greenstorm]

No victim mentality. Just facts. Check out which city contributes most to the national exchequer and how many cities after that have to add up to contribute an equivalent amount..

Its the same with most port cities throughout the world.

I do not understand Urdu speaking community's hate towards Punjab. Their quarrel should be with Sindh's PPP and their own leadership from Karachi, specially after 18th amendment, instead of dragging Punjab into it.

Karachites made a big mistake by keeping this muhajir tag until now. Urdu speakers are more Pakistani then most Pakistanis, and had inherent advantage over local populace. They should have cashed in on it by spreading through out the country, establishing businesses and grabbing key posts in public/private sectors, but instead, they chose to confine themselves to a corner of the country and then started supporting a madman who managed to sell 'victimhood' and 'muhajir' manjan.

A Punjabi can afford to be a Punjabi, same with Pakhtoon and Sindhis but Karachites won't go far with this muhajir identity as they will always remain a bitter minority and such minorities suffer everywhere. They assume they are being oppressed by almost everyone; Sindhis, Baloch, Pakhtun, Punjabis and even military, maybe even aliens. A little introspection and change of strategy will go a long way.

 

[Greenstorm]

Would you be okay if Karachi-Hyderabad wanted to be their own province?

Yes, ideally Sindh should be divided into 3 provinces.

1. Karachi-Hyderabad-Thatta
2. Larkana-Tharparkar-Khairpur
3. Sukhur-Ghotki-Shikarpur

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

The politicians of Karachi, and Sindh in general, belongs to the crocodiles of Manghopir.

 

[Savak]

Federal Govt has every right to impose Governor's Rule in Sindh in the prevailing circumstances where the provincial government just refuses to accept any responsibility for the province but still insists on ruling it.

 

[RickyG]

By all means continue to differ but at least have the common sense to see the flaws in your argument about karachi resources belonging only to citizens of Karachi. That’s not how the world works. If a city has employment opportunities, people from
All over the country will flock to it to work there. You can’t keep the citizens of a country from seeking employment in one of its own cities.

London, NYC, etc have majority residents who were not born there.. they moved there. Karachi kissi ki meeras nahi hai. How are you any different from the PPP waderas who are ruining it, and have ruined it in the past? Because they think Karachi is their own personal property.

Hope you see the point I’m trying to make!

I’m not stopping anyone from moving to Karachi. But money generated in Karachi shouldn’t be used to fill the pockets of politicians you support wherever you may be. Nor should it be used for anything other than the betterment of the city. It’s as simple as that. It has nothing to do with who is allowed and not allowed to live in Karachi.

I am different because I am actually from Karachi and I don’t like that the provincial government of has run it into the ground while the two Punjab based establishment backed governments have enjoyed the show from afar. What about you? Wadera? Jagidar?