[AUDIO] "They have utilised the pink ball really well" : Wahab Riaz

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Quotes from Wahab Riaz speaking to ABC :

"They have utilised the pink ball really well ... Australia were bowling really well," Wahab said.
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"This isnt what we wanted but the good thing is that we got Australia out for 429"

"We were looking to get some runs but they bowled very well and we are in a bad position right now"

"I bowled well but am sure there is room for improvement but credit to the Australians for batting well"

"We were already bowling as per plan yesterday but when we analysed our performance last night, we were bowling a little too wider and we had to attack the stumps a little more"

"That was the plan and our attitude was right and we did get the wickets"

"The ball will swing and have bounce under the lights and we know that already"

"The credit goes to the Australian bowlers who ran through our batting line-up"

"We did make some bad decisions whilst batting and played some bad shots"

"We could see the ball well but we just need to learn to control the swing well and we should have batted better"

"We are far behind in the game and should Australia allow us to bowl again we will try and do better"

"If we are put into batting again, we will need to score runs but the conditions will be different in the morning again"

"We will need to bat and take some more time to stay at the stumps"



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[Rayyman]

Feel bad for Wahab. He bowled his heart, but Rahat and the batsman played like pathetic fools.

 

[Bilal7]

Feel bad for Wahab. He bowled his heart, but Rahat and the batsman played like pathetic fools.

Riaz, Amir and Shah were all very good. Hopefully Sarfaraz and Amir can put a 50 run partnership on tomorrow.

What Australia will be looking for is getting the two wickets early on and then batting for two sessions before asking Pakistan to bat under lights again. This could get ugly.

 

[Mamoon]

Australia probably won't enforce the follow-on, but if they do, they can wrap it up tomorrow.

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Australia probably won't enforce the follow-on, but if they do, they can wrap it up tomorrow.

yea i think soo too i dont see them letting pakistan bat in the morning but it wont make any difference anyway.

 

[saeed5646]

yea i think soo too i dont see them letting pakistan bat in the morning but it wont make any difference anyway[/B].

Yeah this is going one from last 28 years to subcontinent teams Aus are too good at Brisbane in tests

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Yeah this is going one from last 28 years to subcontinent teams Aus are too good at Brisbane in tests

its not about brisbane or perth its the pakistan batting line up that cant stand again anything that is fast, bouncy, swing unless and untill they get no bounce as dead as uae i dont find their batting line up have any spine at all.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If by utilising the pink ball well he means bowling a good line and length then I guess they utilised it well. Pakistan pace bowlers might consider it a good idea not to bowl short or wide either and then they might find they can utilise it better also.

 

[saeed5646]

its not about brisbane or perth its the pakistan batting line up that cant stand again anything that is fast, bouncy, swing unless and untill they get no bounce as dead as uae i dont find their batting line up have any spine at all.

oh really so why no team have beat them their(asian team)and secondly did you have watch pak england

test series those pitches were not dead and uae type

 

[Major]

Unless somehow pakistan could get 200 on board they have lost this test match.

If they get to 200 and be asked to follow they are in advantage. Score 350 after follow on and with even 150 on board with the spin on the wicket, we could create a chance.

But this match is a lost cause. Players shouldnt give up though

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Only Amir used the pink ball appropriately.

Wahab unfortunately has not got two major skills ie

1. Seam

2. Swing


Hence his only weapons are Pace, Bounce & Reverse.


Had Ali been fit than my pace attack for Pink Ball would have been been

1. Amir
2. Asif
3. Ali Imran


Add to it Yasir and it would have been a very potent attack.

 

[Syed1]

Only Amir used the pink ball appropriately.

Wahab unfortunately has not got two major skills ie

1. Seam

2. Swing


Hence his only weapons are Pace, Bounce & Reverse.


Had Ali been fit than my pace attack for Pink Ball would have been been

1. Amir
2. Asif
3. Ali Imran


Add to it Yasir and it would have been a very potent attack.

I've been hearing alot about Ali Imran Pasha, is he pacy and above 140kph?

That should be our first criteria in selecting a bowler. Unless you can swing/seam it like Asif you need a minimum pace of 140kph.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

I've been hearing alot about Ali Imran Pasha, is he pacy and above 140kph?

That should be our first criteria in selecting a bowler. Unless you can swing/seam it like Asif you need a minimum pace of 140kph.

I would say not all deliveries but quite a few he bowls are definitely above 140. And majority of his 130-140 kph deliveries are in high 130's. So he is fast medium. Faster than Sohail, Rahat & Imran.


You can watch his this season's bowling on Youtube.

Search " Ali Imran Pasha 7-20 ".

 

[Abid Z]

I would say not all deliveries but quite a few he bowls are definitely above 140. And majority of his 130-140 kph deliveries are in high 130's. So he is fast medium. Faster than Sohail, Rahat & Imran.


You can watch his this season's bowling on my Youtube Channel.

Search " Ali Imran Pasha 7-20 " on Youtube

looks ok this Pasha bloke. Is he getting noticed..??

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

looks ok this Pasha bloke. Is he getting noticed..??

No He is not getting noticed.


If he remains fit during the Odi Cup than He will be noticed.

 

[QalandarFan]

What is the minimum amount of runs needed to avoid the follow on???

 

[Syed1]

What is the minimum amount of runs needed to avoid the follow on???

133 more runs

 

[Ellipsism]

The Pakistani bowlers simply don't hit the deck hard enough.

@TalentSpottterPk is there any decent right arm 'hit the deck' bowler in Pakistan?

 

[Chief Destroyer]

The Pakistani bowlers simply don't hit the deck hard enough.

@TalentSpottterPk is there any decent right arm 'hit the deck' bowler in Pakistan?

Lol what?

The difference was Australia had two of their best batsmen set under lights while we started out our innings with 400+ on the board. Amir also lacks a new ball bowling partner while Starc and Hazlewood compliment each other and take wickets in partnerships.

 

[Ellipsism]

Lol what?

The difference was Australia had two of their best batsmen set under lights while we started out our innings with 400+ on the board. Amir also lacks a new ball bowling partner while Starc and Hazlewood compliment each other and take wickets in partnerships.

It was pretty evident what Bird and Hazlewood were able to extract by hitting the deck.

 

[moghul]

Yeah, you bowled great, "bundled out" Australia for only 428.

 

[Haroon786]

It was pretty evident what Bird and Hazlewood were able to extract by hitting the deck.

The majority of the top order wickets were because of moving full deliveries, not short of a length balls at the body.

 

[Ellipsism]

The majority of the top order wickets were because of moving full deliveries, not short of a length balls at the body.

Hitting the deck doesn't mean short deliveries. It is pretty self explanatory, for example take Hazlewood, he is a 'hit the deck bowler' by hitting the pitch hard you extract seam movement.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

It was pretty evident what Bird and Hazlewood were able to extract by hitting the deck.

Bird ain't a hit the deck bowler. He has a soft action and would get thrashed by a team like India when the ball stops moving.

All three lefties hit the deck hard. It's the reason why Amir's been so economical and Wahab consistently threatening during the day. Amir got the ball to seam and lift consistently under lights but were bowling to set batsmen, technically did dismiss Smith and squared up Handscomb quite a bit. Rahat has no control over his brain and action which is why he gets thrashed.

Where Australia have the edge is they're able to bowl in partnerships, including Bird when the ball moves while our third option is a liability. Pakistan are bowling to much better of pace in their home conditions.

Notice that on day 2, Amir and Wahab bowled together in a partnership for the first time in the match and pretty much ran through Australia. That's another area Australia have the edge, a captain who understands how to use his pacers while Lord Misbah is totally clueless.

 

[Haroon786]

Hitting the deck doesn't mean short deliveries. It is pretty self explanatory, for example take Hazlewood, he is a 'hit the deck bowler' by hitting the pitch hard you extract seam movement.

Nope, hitting the deck is primarily about being able to get bounce off the pitch to hurry the batsmen.

Bounce wasn't the undoing of the Pakistani batsmen, it was the new ball initially and then the movement under lights which has sparked our downfall. Oh, and the rather intellectual strokeplay of our batsmen too.

 

[Ellipsism]

Bird ain't a hit the deck bowler. He has a soft action and would get thrashed by a team like India when the ball stops moving.

All three lefties hit the deck hard. It's the reason why Amir's been so economical and Wahab consistently threatening during the day. Amir got the ball to seam and lift consistently under lights but were bowling to set batsmen, technically did dismiss Smith and squared up Handscomb quite a bit. Rahat has no control over his brain and action which is why he gets thrashed.

Where Australia have the edge is they're able to bowl in partnerships, including Bird when the ball moves while our third option is a liability. Pakistan are bowling to much better of pace in their home conditions.

Notice that on day 2, Amir and Wahab bowled together in a partnership for the first time in the match and pretty much ran through Australia. That's another area Australia have the edge, a captain who understands how to use his pacers while Lord Misbah is totally clueless.

Bird, quite visibly started to hit the deck hard under the lights. He was more seaming the ball rather than swinging it.

Rahat is soft and extracts minimal seam movement, Amir can do it in periods but not consistently, Wahab never lands the ball on the seam anyway.

The manner in which Hazlewood hits the deck is the perfect example. His hight is also a major factor.

 

[Ellipsism]

Nope, hitting the deck is primarily about being able to get bounce off the pitch to hurry the batsmen.

Bounce wasn't the undoing of the Pakistani batsmen, it was the new ball initially and then the movement under lights which has sparked our downfall. Oh, and the rather intellectual strokeplay of our batsmen too.

I'm not going to have a childish argument but I will say this.

The Australian bowlers bowled poorly in Hobart due to not hitting the deck hard enough.

 

[Haroon786]

I'm not going to have a childish argument but I will say this.

The Australian bowlers bowled poorly in Hobart due to not hitting the deck hard enough.

Brushing up on terminology should be up on the priority list.

What Australia did in a past match has nothing to do with them getting wickets through pitching the ball up in this match.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Bird, quite visibly started to hit the deck hard under the lights. He was more seaming the ball rather than swinging it.

Rahat is soft and extracts minimal seam movement, Amir can do it in periods but not consistently, Wahab never lands the ball on the seam anyway.

The manner in which Hazlewood hits the deck is the perfect example. His hight is also a major factor.

It's not difficult to extract movement under lights. Neither does it make you a hit the deck bowler. Hit the deck bowlers extract lift(seaming off the pitch is down to seam presentation) which visibly shows in the bowler's action. Bird has a soft action. He can extract seam movement but he does not hit the deck hard.

Yes, Hazlewood is one. But height isn't necessary to hit the deck hard. Wagner is an example. You just need a fast arm and correct tent pegs. Of course if you're taller, it only makes you more effective.

What you're alluding to are bowlers with a strong high arm action and consistently present an upright seam to extract seam and lift. Ali Imran and Mohammad Irfan(rightie) are the best exponents of that.

 

[Ellipsism]

Brushing up on terminology should be up on the priority list.

What Australia did in a past match has nothing to do with them getting wickets through pitching the ball up in this match.

Yes, hitting the deck allows for extra bounce and primarily that is its use but on green wickets or conditions which are helpful to the bowlers hitting the deck allows for seam movement.

 

[Ellipsism]

It's not difficult to extract movement under lights. Neither does it make you a hit the deck bowler. Hit the deck bowlers extract lift(seaming off the pitch is down to seam presentation) which visibly shows in the bowler's action. Bird has a soft action. He can extract seam movement but he does not hit the deck hard.

Yes, Hazlewood is one. But height isn't necessary to hit the deck hard. Wagner is an example. You just need a fast arm and correct tent pegs. Of course if you're taller, it only makes you more effective.

What you're alluding to are bowlers with a strong high arm action and consistently present an upright seam to extract seam and lift. Ali Imran and Mohammad Irfan(rightie) are the best exponents of that.

Mohammad Irfan-(Lahore Qalandars?)

 

[Haroon786]

Yes, hitting the deck allows for extra bounce and primarily that is its use but on green wickets or conditions which are helpful to the bowlers hitting the deck allows for seam movement.

Personally, I find bowlers like Anderson, Asif and Philander tend to do better on green tracks than bowlers who are known to bowl quick.

Of course, being able to get the extra tidbit out of the pitch is useful and makes it easier to dismiss the batsman.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Mohammad Irfan-(Lahore Qalandars?)

Yes.

 

[Hasan123]

Not his biggest fan but he bowled well today. Hopefully he keeps it up for the next 2 games. Wahab and Amir should bowl more in tandem. Need a good 3rd seamer to back them up as Rahat doesn't seem to be the answer.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

What was Wahab's top speed in this match ?

147.8 kph as far as i saw.

Did he touch 150 kph ?

Did Starc touch 150 kph ?

 

[Ellipsism]

What was Wahab's top speed in this match ?

147.8 kph as far as i saw.

Did he touch 150 kph ?

Did Starc touch 150 kph ?

Starc bowled one at 149.6 I believe.