Australia, England, India and another team will feature in an ODI Super Series beginning in 2021

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A four-nation ODI Super Series will start from 2021, Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) president Sourav Ganguly said on Friday.

“Australia, England, India and another top team will feature in the Super Series which begins in 2021 and the first edition of the tournament will be played in India,” Sourav said on the sidelines of an event organised by fantasy cricket app My11Circle.

Sourav was recently in London along with BCCI secretary Jay Shah and treasurer Arun Singh Dhumal, where he met the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) top brass. When asked about the meeting, Sourav said: “We have very good relations with the ECB and the meeting went off very well.”

The International Cricket Council (ICC), generally, doesn’t allow ODI tournaments which involve more than three teams. If the Super Series does take place, it will be treated as a special case.

The ICC recently proposed one flagship tournament every year during the next eight-year FTP cycle (2023-2031), but the BCCI, Cricket Australia and ECB have opposed the move.

The matter will come up for discussion again during the ICC chief executives’ meeting. The question is, in case the ICC gives the necessary permission, will it directly conflict their FTP proposal?

https://www.telegraphindia.com/sport/4-nation-meet-on-the-anvil/cid/1728982

 

[nextover666666]

I always thought that cricket should have like a four team tournament that could be known as the Pakistan cup ( example pak is the host) And they invite 3 teams ideally 1 from each continent if possible and every test playing nation has thier cup kinda like an open in tennis. Each year teams would participate in different ones to try to win each cup I always thought it would be fun

 

[Aman]

Should be playing tri series between NZ, Aus and SA...

CA and their obsession with Indian and English money.

Sick of these teams playing each other every 2 minutes.

 

[Mueez]

New Zealand, South Africa or Pakistan.

Who do you think is capable of beating India, Australia and England?

 

[Titan24]

New Zealand, South Africa or Pakistan.

Who do you think is capable of beating India, Australia and England?

New Zealand as of now but 2021 is sometime away and series isn’t confirmed yet.

 

[Mesozoic]

New Zealand, South Africa or Pakistan.

Who do you think is capable of beating India, Australia and England?

All of them can.

 

[Aman]

New Zealand, South Africa or Pakistan.

Who do you think is capable of beating India, Australia and England?

It's in India so that rules out Pakistan.

It will be us or SA.

Either way, I'm disappointed we don't have a tri series going every 2 years between NZ, Aus and SA. We use to play a tri series between the same 3 countries for rugby. It could be the equivalent of the Asia cup, except for the southern hemisphere.

 

[Ab Fan]

Good for ODI cricket IMO.

 

[Mueez]

New Zealand as of now but 2021 is sometime away and series isn’t confirmed yet.

True, it is some time away and we never know what will happen.

All of them can.

Yes, everyone is capable of beating them, however I don’t see Pakistan beating Australia... we have a mental barrier against them.

It's in India so that rules out Pakistan.

It will be us or SA.

Either way, I'm disappointed we don't have a tri series going every 2 years between NZ, Aus and SA. We use to play a tri series between the same 3 countries for rugby. It could be the equivalent of the Asia cup, except for the southern hemisphere.

Hmm, you do have a valid point. I don’t see Pakistan going to India, so I think too that New Zealand will contest in the cup.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Excellent decision.

 

[big_gamer007]

Always loved the 4 team tournament growing up.

Glad to see ganguly trying to revive it. I hope it becomes an annual thing, with India, England, Australia and NZ. Top 4 teams playing every year 2 week ODI tournament. Sounds fun

 

[Hitman]

I'd love to see Pakistan as the fourth team.

 

[Mesozoic]

I'd love to see Pakistan as the fourth team.

In an ideal world.. yes.

But it is as likely as Australia visiting Afghanistan.

 

[Hitman]

In an ideal world.. yes.

But it is as likely as Australia visiting Afghanistan.

I know. But I personally crave to see India vs Pakistan matches.

 

[big_gamer007]

I'd love to see Pakistan as the fourth team.

Not possible for next 9 years. After that maybe, depending on political climate on both sides.

 

[silent ischemia]

All of them can.

Pak can beat any team but Ind and Aus. Have a mental barrier against them esp Aus. They have lost from winning positions against them

 

[Mesozoic]

Pak can beat any team but Ind and Aus. Have a mental barrier against them esp Aus. They have lost from winning positions against them

When was the last time Pakistan were in a winnable position against India and went on to lose ? India have pretty much dominated the proceedings in the recent times barring the CT final.

 

[Hasan123]

This actually sounds exciting.

 

[Markhor]

Turns out this may be a bargaining tool in the negotiations over the MPA and future tours programme.

 

[Ahmed4472]

Not possible for next 9 years. After that maybe, depending on political climate on both sides.

Why exactly 9 years? FTP arrangements or Modi’s this and next turn?

 

[Ryw]

Crazy fans cheerring and jumping up and down, that is another attempt to isolate other teams apart from those top 4 teams lol
ICC should step in and teach these big 3 money hungry boards to involve everyone or get losst.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Crazy fans cheerring and jumping up and down, that is another attempt to isolate other teams apart from those top 4 teams lol
ICC should step in and teach these big 3 money hungry boards to involve everyone or get losst.

Why should they involve everyone?

Three boards cant play a tournament now?

Without these three boards, there wont be a ICC.

 

[Aman]

NZC has made a loss for the last 3 years lol and here these 3 are trying to get a bigger piece of the pie not realizing that hamstringing every other nation is going to led to an unbalance and greater divide between those 3 and everyone else.

That divide is only going to make more one sided games and less people watching the sport. They're too short sighted to see it.

 

[Aman]

Turns out this may be a bargaining tool in the negotiations over the MPA and future tours programme.

That's stupid, don't India-Aus-England play each other every year now anyway?

 

[Convict]

It's in India so that rules out Pakistan.

It will be us or SA.

Either way, I'm disappointed we don't have a tri series going every 2 years between NZ, Aus and SA. We use to play a tri series between the same 3 countries for rugby. It could be the equivalent of the Asia cup, except for the southern hemisphere.

The black caps are even less relevant to Australian cricket than the Wallabies are to the All Blacks.

 

[the Great Khan]

The Indian obsession with monopolising the game continues..another cockamamy project that probably wont last long..Cricket isnt a game played by three countries but the money hungry inclusivity obsessed BCCI keeps coming up with ways to damage the game and continue its monopoly.

 

[jnaveen1980]

If at all they play it will be NZ. Top 4 teams in the world.

 

[Aman]

The black caps are even less relevant to Australian cricket than the Wallabies are to the All Blacks.

Nah, Wallabies mean zero here. They haven't won the Bledisloe in like 2 decades lmao and only two teams can win it. I was still in primary school the last time they won it. SA, England and Ireland of late are seen as bigger rivals. The Wallabies are just the southern hemisphere team we expect to beat up on every year.

At least the Black Caps have won the Chappell-Hadlee 3-4 times the last two decades.

 

[Aman]

We're likely to be the 4th team and I don't like the idea.

These three teams playing each other constantly is bad for the sport. They're the big ticket draws that other teams financially need to tour.

Instead of these 3 + an invite playing, the ICC should consider tournaments like a Euro championship in Europe and a southern hemisphere tournament to go with the Asia Cup.

 

[Sidilicious]

We're likely to be the 4th team and I don't like the idea.

These three teams playing each other constantly is bad for the sport.

How is it bad for cricket? I am bored of seeing ICC try to push a meaningless trophy every year.

I used to love such series, but there hasn’t been one for ages.

 

[Aman]

A European Championship would help Irish and Scottish cricket.

Southern Hemisphere we could have teams like NZ, Aus and SA and then bring in other countries like Zimbabwe, PNG etc.

 

[Aman]

How is it bad for cricket? I am bored of seeing ICC try to push a meaningless trophy every year.

I used to love such series, but there hasn’t been one for ages.

Think of the long term picture - you're going to get bored of playing these teams constantly, you're already playing both to ad nauseam (think you're playing 5 Tests against both teams now ). Adding another ODI series to go with the Tests is too much of the same teams playing each other, then there's other teams who rely on these big teams touring to create buzz for the sport in the country. With them playing each other, they're going to reduce the matches they play against others, if not cancel tours entirely.

Cricket becoming more of a 3 team sport is bad for the game. Making everything in the sport less meaningful than ever.

What's the point in winning titles and championships in a sport only 3 countries play?

 

[Aman]

Sometimes I wish NZC, PCB, CSA, WICB, SLC and BCB broke away and started to play amongst themselves.

Let's see how long the big 3 last on their own.

At least they'd be variety with that division whereas Aus, Eng and India would do is play each other constantly - fans will lose interest and the sports would die. Can't really have a WC or world championship with 3 teams either.

 

[Hitman]

Crazy fans cheerring and jumping up and down, that is another attempt to isolate other teams apart from those top 4 teams lol
ICC should step in and teach these big 3 money hungry boards to involve everyone or get losst.

Why not involve other teams in the Ashes and the Asia Cup as well?

 

[Babbar]

Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh can also create a competing 4-nation ODI cup, inviting a fourth team from
among Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, Kenya and Ireland. But this won’t happen as there will hardly be any money.

ICC is becoming too big for its boots, by leaching BCCI, ECB off funds. It’s time ICC is restricted to conducting only world cups, regulating rules and helping associate countries. All other contests should be decided by playing nations themselves. All these silly Asia cups etc should be scrapped. T20s should just be played at a club or associate countries level as it’s mostly a circus.

Pakistan will of course be not happy as it loses its gravy train called BCCI.

 

[MMHS]

I believe the 4th team will be South Africa or NZL; probably NZL as they are last two times WC runners-up and has a genuine good team.

May not be financially at that magnitude, but at the same time PAK, BD, SRL, WIN and the remaining one of top five (SAF), can arrange a similar tournament at same time in a revenue sharing model either in SAF or in BD, and that tournament will be quite rewarding as well. Because, from the experience of this years BPL, I can say that more than quality of cricket, people follows the brand first.

But it won’t happen - to achieve something big, first thing you need is maturity to see the big picture....

 

[dildilpak]

Why not? If people can watch two teams battle it out every couple of years (ref - Ashes), then why does anyone think they would be jaded watching the top ranked teams battle it out in ODIs too? From the audience perspective, it will be better than watching meaningless matches like Pak vs Zimbabwe or Bangladesh vs SL & if they market it well, might become an annual tradition too!!

I guess the series is a reaction to the ICC trying to introduce a ODI WC every couple of years along with T20 WC & Champions Trophy T20 every alternate year, which BCCI & ECB are opposed to (since they lose sole broadcasting rights), hence these boards are trying to re-assert their financial power. Since ICC is a legislative body & not a governing one, its endeavours to usurp more financial power has not gone down too well with the boards who actually make the money for everybody.

Will be interesting to see ICC reaction if the series goes through - can they curb their primary money-minters??

 

[Sidilicious]

I believe the 4th team will be South Africa or NZL; probably NZL as they are last two times WC runners-up and has a genuine good team.

May not be financially at that magnitude, but at the same time PAK, BD, SRL, WIN and the remaining one of top five (SAF), can arrange a similar tournament at same time in a revenue sharing model either in SAF or in BD, and that tournament will be quite rewarding as well. Because, from the experience of this years BPL, I can say that more than quality of cricket, people follows the brand first.

But it won’t happen - to achieve something big, first thing you need is maturity to see the big picture....

This would be a great idea in an ideal world. Kind of like 2 tiers.

But, I bet PCB will not cooperate with BCB on this.

 

[Aman]

This would be a great idea in an ideal world. Kind of like 2 tiers.

But, I bet PCB will not cooperate with BCB on this.

If we're doing two competitions, I'd rather be split with SA and Pakistan to carry the tournament.

India-Aus and Eng in the other.

 

[big_gamer007]

Why exactly 9 years? FTP arrangements or Modi’s this and next turn?

BJP is going to come in power another term.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The Indian obsession with monopolising the game continues..another cockamamy project that probably wont last long..Cricket isnt a game played by three countries but the money hungry inclusivity obsessed BCCI keeps coming up with ways to damage the game and continue its monopoly.

Anything that doesn't involve Pakistan but involves BCCI is Cockamamy? Right?

 

[cricketjoshila]

We're likely to be the 4th team and I don't like the idea.

These three teams playing each other constantly is bad for the sport. They're the big ticket draws that other teams financially need to tour.

Instead of these 3 + an invite playing, the ICC should consider tournaments like a Euro championship in Europe and a southern hemisphere tournament to go with the Asia Cup.

ICC isnt getting anymore tournaments outside of what they have. Its simply isnt feasible for most of the boards.

NZC is likely to get record revenues this year on back of a India tour.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why not? If people can watch two teams battle it out every couple of years (ref - Ashes), then why does anyone think they would be jaded watching the top ranked teams battle it out in ODIs too? From the audience perspective, it will be better than watching meaningless matches like Pak vs Zimbabwe or Bangladesh vs SL & if they market it well, might become an annual tradition too!!

I guess the series is a reaction to the ICC trying to introduce a ODI WC every couple of years along with T20 WC & Champions Trophy T20 every alternate year, which BCCI & ECB are opposed to (since they lose sole broadcasting rights), hence these boards are trying to re-assert their financial power. Since ICC is a legislative body & not a governing one, its endeavours to usurp more financial power has not gone down too well with the boards who actually make the money for everybody.

Will be interesting to see ICC reaction if the series goes through - can they curb their primary money-minters??

ICC's attempt was to basically take away the financial power of the big 3. Make more money so that they can get the smaller boards to outvote Big 3 in all matters.

It was basically a Manohar project, to keep himself as the numero uno power in cricket. Like Sepp Blatter.

He hoped that Bcci will be in court cases for another year,enough time for him to get things passed in the ICC.

What he didnot anticipate was that bcci will be free from court appointed administrators so soon and will have people like Ganguly and Shah incharge.

He has already turned tail and said he will not try for another term after May 2020.

 

[Aman]

ICC isnt getting anymore tournaments outside of what they have. Its simply isnt feasible for most of the boards.

NZC is likely to get record revenues this year on back of a India tour.

We have posted losses the last 3 years, that includes when India last toured.

A full Indian tour is definitely going to help next year though.

 

[CanadianG00se]

The Indian obsession with monopolising the game continues..another cockamamy project that probably wont last long..Cricket isnt a game played by three countries but the money hungry inclusivity obsessed BCCI keeps coming up with ways to damage the game and continue its monopoly.

Why are you getting so worked out? BCCI is proposing which suits their needs. They are not stopping other boards to organize such series with other teams?

Classic desi mentality, we couldn’t do it, so no one should do it either.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Sometimes I wish NZC, PCB, CSA, WICB, SLC and BCB broke away and started to play amongst themselves.

Let's see how long the big 3 last on their own.

At least they'd be variety with that division whereas Aus, Eng and India would do is play each other constantly - fans will lose interest and the sports would die. Can't really have a WC or world championship with 3 teams either.

Big 3 would last way longer than those countries you mentioned. Some of those countries relies heavily on India tour to make money, esp NZ. P

 

[Babbar]

There are always some kids in the class who don’t want to progress or study hard but won’t like others to progress either. They would do everything to ensure that others fail even if it means disaster for themselves.

 

[barah_admi]

ICC isnt getting anymore tournaments outside of what they have. Its simply isnt feasible for most of the boards.

NZC is likely to get record revenues this year on back of a India tour.

Yes because India tours in England and Australia were record breaking right?

 

[King_Kohli]

I'd love to see NZ as the fourth team.

 

[Titan24]

To be honest I am not exactly sure what the proposed series is trying to achieve. Eng, Aus and Ind already play much more cricket than anybody else and such things only artificially creates another division in the cricketing world which to be honest cricket can't afford. Irrespective of how much revenue is generated by India or other boards involved, cricket only exists due to the variety it provides with varying oppositions and conditions. Imagine India playing Eng or Aus three times a year and we see 2-3 ashes series happening in an year, it will become too monotonous and eventually will bring downfall of cricket.

Cricket survives on quality as well as variety which already is not as much with only 10 nations playing the test cricket so anything which encourages another tier should be avoided in my opinion. Though as a viewer I will obviously enjoy it initially but not in the long run and I think ICC tournament which involves everyone is a better use of time and scheduling so that cricket is expanded and improved in other countries as well rather than just the big 3.

 

[King_Kohli]

To be honest I am not exactly sure what the proposed series is trying to achieve. Eng, Aus and Ind already play much more cricket than anybody else and such things only artificially creates another division in the cricketing world which to be honest cricket can't afford. Irrespective of how much revenue is generated by India or other boards involved, cricket only exists due to the variety it provides with varying oppositions and conditions. Imagine India playing Eng or Aus three times a year and we see 2-3 ashes series happening in an year, it will become too monotonous and eventually will bring downfall of cricket.

Cricket survives on quality as well as variety which already is not as much with only 10 nations playing the test cricket so anything which encourages another tier should be avoided in my opinion. Though as a viewer I will obviously enjoy it initially but not in the long run and I think ICC tournament which involves everyone is a better use of time and scheduling so that cricket is expanded and improved in other countries as well rather than just the big 3.

Totally agree with you

I think super series is not an ICC event. Just another multinational tournament.
If they want ICC status then they should scrap fourth team.

Instead of super series or additional t20 wc ICC should plan for CT, not sure why CT scrapped.

 

[Ronaldo7]

There should be more ICC tournaments.

A WC after 4 years and a T20 one after 2 is just too less.

Should have a tournament every year.

 

[King_Kohli]

There should be more ICC tournaments.

A WC after 4 years and a T20 one after 2 is just too less.

Should have a tournament every year.

The structure of the men’s FTP (2019-23) includes:

ICC World T20 – 2020 and 2021
World Test Championship
Cycle 1 – 2019-2021 (final 2021)
Cycle 2 – 2021-2023 (final 2023)
ICC Cricket World Cup – 2023

5 ICC tournaments in next 5 years

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yes because India tours in England and Australia were record breaking right?

Both Australian and English boards said that India tour is most profitable after Ashes.

The last time India did a full tour of NZ, they made record revenues.

 

[ravisurya]

Australia, England,India and most likely Kiwis want to play a series and Pakistanis are most disturbed.

 

[barah_admi]

Both Australian and English boards said that India tour is most profitable after Ashes.

The last time India did a full tour of NZ, they made record revenues.

The last time India toured England they had to give away tickets for free and it was a matter of discussion throughout the series. But you carry on with whatever is in your mind

 

[jaisan]

The last time India toured England they had to give away tickets for free and it was a matter of discussion throughout the series. But you carry on with whatever is in your mind

It's the we are talking about. Not the paltry gate money .

 

[cricketjoshila]

The last time India toured England they had to give away tickets for free and it was a matter of discussion throughout the series. But you carry on with whatever is in your mind

https://m.rediff.com/amp/cricket/column/why-the-english-cricket-board-loves-kohli--co/20180918.htm

Tell that to ECB.

 

[barah_admi]

https://m.rediff.com/amp/cricket/column/why-the-english-cricket-board-loves-kohli--co/20180918.htm

Tell that to ECB.

You are posting an article, from an unknown website and the way you have posted about it seems that it somehow comes from the ECB...it does not. Maybe English is not your first language but the writer, Ashish Ray, whoever that is, keeps stating what the ECB thinks, I wonder how he knows that?

All I KNOW is that, the last time India toured England, ticket sales were poor, tickets were given away for free and this was mentioned multiple times, even during a broadcast on Sky, which is a rare thing to happen for any tour. If you can prove my statement wrong, please by all means go ahead.

 

[barah_admi]

It's the �� �� we are talking about. Not the paltry gate money .

I agree, TV revenue is a big deal and the money Indian TV spends to by up rights and the advertising via these channels brings lots of money...that however does not necessarily translate to eyes on screens and if it does not, then down the line, it leads to massive losses. You might want to read up on the history of HBO and boxing viewership.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Sharjah used to host these kind of events in the 90s. But i always want West Indies to be part of these events. They are entertaining.

 

[shariqnoor]

Most likely it'll be NZ. I'd love to watch the tournament. Would be good quality cricket. But what it should be is that the team coming last should be relegated and a new team takes its place for the upcoming tournament.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You are posting an article, from an unknown website and the way you have posted about it seems that it somehow comes from the ECB...it does not. Maybe English is not your first language but the writer, Ashish Ray, whoever that is, keeps stating what the ECB thinks, I wonder how he knows that?

All I KNOW is that, the last time India toured England, ticket sales were poor, tickets were given away for free and this was mentioned multiple times, even during a broadcast on Sky, which is a rare thing to happen for any tour. If you can prove my statement wrong, please by all means go ahead.

Unknown website. Lol.

Ask the admin team if Rediff is a credible source or not.

 

[Titan24]

Totally agree with you

I think super series is not an ICC event. Just another multinational tournament.
If they want ICC status then they should scrap fourth team.

Instead of super series or additional t20 wc ICC should plan for CT, not sure why CT scrapped.

True and that is why I mentioned an ICC tournament would have been better use of the time and resources. Yes CT was a pretty decent competition, I am also surprised why it has been scrapped.

 

[the Great Khan]

Because sherlock they are talking about disrupting the international calendar..it smacks of bias and an attempt to ensure they are the dominant board in world cricket. The mentality is materialistic and actually racist. A reflection of the trends in their society.

The Indian brand of cricket is boring unexciting. Lacks real ummph and flair. It is characterised by a almost metrenomical streak. Bat make big runs hit sixes and if you can't change the rules to make sure it becomes easy to do so..numbers matter..

It's almost robotic..and their fans want more of this rubbish..it's a perversion of the game..

 

[cricketjoshila]

Because sherlock they are talking about disrupting the international calendar..it smacks of bias and an attempt to ensure they are the dominant board in world cricket. The mentality is materialistic and actually racist. A reflection of the trends in their society.

The Indian brand of cricket is boring unexciting. Lacks real ummph and flair. It is characterised by a almost metrenomical streak. Bat make big runs hit sixes and if you can't change the rules to make sure it becomes easy to do so..numbers matter..

It's almost robotic..and their fans want more of this rubbish..it's a perversion of the game..

How is it disruptive?

Three boards will play the tournament when they have a free slot, they will invite a fourth team who will join of their free will.

Rest 8 teams are free to play.

They are asking for no ICC window either.

You are free to not watch Indian crickey TGK. Why so much hatred?

 

[ravisurya]

Because sherlock they are talking about disrupting the international calendar..it smacks of bias and an attempt to ensure they are the dominant board in world cricket. The mentality is materialistic and actually racist. A reflection of the trends in their society.

The Indian brand of cricket is boring unexciting. Lacks real ummph and flair. It is characterised by a almost metrenomical streak. Bat make big runs hit sixes and if you can't change the rules to make sure it becomes easy to do so..numbers matter..

It's almost robotic..and their fans want more of this rubbish..it's a perversion of the game..

Do u even know what racist means? BTW no one i forcing you to watch the Indian Team, they are happy with the spectators and money coming in.

 

[jnaveen1980]

It comes down to how many matches each team plays in a calendar year. There is no sidelining of any team.

2018

England 24 matches India 20 matches Pakistan 18 matches Australia 13 matches NZ 13 matches

2019

India 28 matches Pakistan 25 matches Australia 23 matches England 22 matches NZ 21 matches

Not a lot of difference there. As you can see India/Pakistan always a lot of ODIs comapred to SENA countries.

 

[HitWicket]

It's the we are talking about. Not the paltry gate money .

The overall general and hospitality seating revenue for a decent year of international cricket in England is probably in the 9 figure range (USD), I'd hardly call it a paltry amount.

 

[barah_admi]

Unknown website. Lol.

Ask the admin team if Rediff is a credible source or not.

That is fine but like I said, if you read the article, it has nothing to do with what I said. In fact, I do not even think they mentioned any factual data or numbers or sales from the ECB. So, back to what I said, poor ticket sales when India last toured, can you counter that?

 

[Ahmed4472]

I think there could be something on level of Field Hockey's champions trophy. Don't know if it still happens though. 5-6 top teams play in round robin format followed by a final. The bottom team is relegated and a new team replaces it for next edition. It was quite popular bak in 90s.

 

[Ahmed4472]

I think there could be something on level of Field Hockey's champions trophy. Don't know if it still happens though. 5-6 top teams play in round robin format followed by a final. The bottom team is relegated and a new team replaces it for next edition. It was quite popular bak in 90s.

Still happens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_Champions_Trophy

 

[Babbar]

This is a fantastic idea. Most world cup matches are boring Ire vs Nepal types with little
impact on the final result. Just have a few strong teams play against each other twice and then a final. Boom! Lots of good cricket, interest, sponsorship being generated.

Even today England, Aus consider Ashes more important than even the world cup as their rivalry is riveting. No reason we can not make a 4-team tournament prestigious.

Not that it’s ICC decision to decide what member countries do but ICC should welcome it to generate more interest in the cricket playing among youngsters. It will be fun watching Root, Roy, Stokes vs Rohit, Kohli, Bumrah vs Smith, Warner, Cummins.

ICC could mandate that the fourth team has to be the highest ranked team among the remaining nations in the last 12 months; but it can not force it.

 

[Abdullah719]

CA seeks middle ground as India, ICC fight over money

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The political minefield that is international cricket has again been laid bare, with Cricket Australia caught in the middle of a stoush between India and the sport's governing body.

CA chief Kevin Roberts and chairman Earl Eddings will have discussions with Sourav Ganguly, the new president of the Board of Control for Cricket in India, in India next month, coming at a time when the BCCI has become increasingly aggrieved with what it perceives to be a lack of money coming its way.

The International Cricket Council wants to stage more ICC-run events in the next Future Tours Program from 2024, essentially meaning there would be a major 50-over or Twenty20 tournament every year, arguing there would be more revenue spread across all member nations.

However, the BCCI wants more money in its coffers, and has proposed an annual Super Series 50-over tournament with England, Australia and one other nation from 2021, to be staged by each country on a rotating basis. The money from this event would only go to the four countries involved.

CA has made it clear it already thinks the international calendar is too crowded but does not want to inflame tensions with the BCCI. It is a tricky battleground but one Roberts had to negotiate when asked about the proposed Super Series on Friday.

"I think it's an example of the innovative thinking coming out of the BCCI with Sourav Ganguly as president. In his very short time, only a couple of months, we have already seen India commit to and host a day-night Test in Calcutta, so a brilliant result there," he said.

"And now a suggestion around the Super Series, another potential innovation. We will be in India next month and Bangladesh talking about the future cricket calendar. We're in discussions with NZ as well and I was recently in Pakistan talking about the importance of our future partnership with Pakistan. Some great innovative ideas coming out of India."

That several countries, including New Zealand, South Africa, the West Indies and Sri Lanka, are struggling financially has added to concerns about the benefits of a Super Series. It was not that long ago that Australia, India and England comprised the "big three", where more than half of the ICC's distributions went to those powerful countries - sparking outrage among many in the cricketing world before the tie-up was unwound.

Based on forecasts, India will receive $US293 million ($422 million) over the current eight-year cycle (2016-2023), the biggest slice of all nations, with Australia to pocket $US132 million ($190 million).

There are suspicions the Super Series is merely an ambit claim by the BCCI but it most likely would be a broadcasting boon for the four countries. Roberts insisted CA was intent on being a good team player.

"We're really respectful of the importance of our international cricket relationships and our role as a leader in world cricket in supporting the development of cricket in other countries. We're really looking forward to hosting Afghanistan next year and that is an example of our commitment to world cricket," he said.

"We have discussions with all member nations of the ICC and take really seriously our role to partner them and working together with them to grow the game.

"We've got to try and make sure we see the game emerging in countries all around the world. We take seriously our role as a partner with the ICC and all of its members."

As part of next month's discussions, Roberts will look to begin locking in next summer's schedule, with four Tests planned against India although it remains to be seen if the tourists would be open to a Test in Brisbane where Australia has not been beaten since 1988-89.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...dia-icc-fight-over-money-20191227-p53n3u.html

 

[Abdullah719]

CA CEO Kevin Roberts says BCCI prez Sourav Ganguly 'ODI Super Series' idea innovative

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Melbourne: Cricket Australia chief executive Kevin Roberts has termed BCCI President Sourav Ganguly's idea for a four-nation 'ODI Super Series' as "innovative" but stopped short of giving any commitment.

Ganguly had said India will lock horns with England, Australia and one other top cricketing side in an annual ODI series starting 2021.



The move is seen as a counter to prevent ICC from implementing their plan of having a global event organised by the international body in every calendar year.

After a recent meeting with Ganguly in London, England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) has said it was open to discussions on the matter.

"I think it's an example of the innovative thinking coming out of the BCCI with Sourav Ganguly as president," Roberts said.

"In his very short time, only a couple of months, we have already seen India commit to and host a day-night Test in Kolkata, so a brilliant result there. And now a suggestion around the Super Series, another potential innovation," he added.

The CA CEO said he will be in India next month and Bangladesh talking about the future cricket calendar. He also said he had discussions with New Zealand and Pakistan "talking about the importance of our future partnership".

Roberts sought to assuage feelings of other Boards, saying that all other nations should also be given opportunities for quality cricket and chances to raise revenue.

"We're really respectful of the importance of our international cricket relationships and our role as a leader in world cricket in supporting the development of cricket in other countries.

"We're looking forward to hosting Afghanistan next year and that is an example of our commitment to world cricket. We have discussions with all member nations of the ICC and take really seriously our role to partner them and working together with them to grow the game around the world.

"Cricket is more or less a religion on the sub-continent. It's absolutely the favourite sport in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. We've got to try and make sure we see the game emerging in countries all around the world."

He said that a crowd of more than 80,000 turning up on the Boxing Day at the MCG would help ensure that the fixture between the Trans-Tasman neighbours would become a far more regular occurrence.

He also stated that the MCG would keep the Boxing Day Test for the foreseeable future, as CA negotiates a new stadium deal with the Melbourne Cricket Club.

"We really value the partnership with New Zealand. We are already having some high-level discussions around the cricket calendar from 2023 to 2031 and we absolutely hope and look forward to hosting New Zealand at a Boxing Day Test well before another 32 years pass," Roberts said.

"They are a really important partner and nation in the world of cricket. The reality is there is only one venue in Australia that can host over 80,000 people on Boxing Day as the MCG did yesterday. It was just a picture. That's something we are really grateful for and respect. The MCG Test is one of the two most iconic Tests on the planet, along with the Lord's Test.

"Given the importance of the MCG Test to world cricket, I would like to think it will remain here in perpetuity. There is a bit of work to be done on that front. But you would have to say it is best for world cricket to have a Boxing Day Test in Melbourne for years to come."

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/spo...rez-sourav-gangulys-odi-super-series-ide.html

 

[Hyperion66]

This is a fantastic idea. Most world cup matches are boring Ire vs Nepal types with little
impact on the final result. Just have a few strong teams play against each other twice and then a final. Boom! Lots of good cricket, interest, sponsorship being generated.

Even today England, Aus consider Ashes more important than even the world cup as their rivalry is riveting. No reason we can not make a 4-team tournament prestigious.

Not that it’s ICC decision to decide what member countries do but ICC should welcome it to generate more interest in the cricket playing among youngsters. It will be fun watching Root, Roy, Stokes vs Rohit, Kohli, Bumrah vs Smith, Warner, Cummins.

ICC could mandate that the fourth team has to be the highest ranked team among the remaining nations in the last 12 months; but it can not force it.

Purely on merit the 4th team should be NZ. Mouth watering contest this is gonna be.

 

[Third_Umpire]

Sounds interesting, but lacks context.

 

[Abdullah719]

Super ODI Series intended to have high class tourney: Sourav Ganguly

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NEW DELHI: BCCI President Sourav Ganguly has said that the idea behind having a four-nation ODI -- which involves Australia, England and one other team -- is to have a "good, competitive tournament".

"It's a proposal. Let's see where it goes. The reason behind it is only to have a good, competitive tournament," Ganguly told Hindustan Times.

Giving an example of the ongoing Test between Australia and New Zealand which saw a record crowd on the Boxing Day at the MCG, he said: "People want to see a high class tournament and we are attempting to do it."

However, he made it clear that for the tournament to happen from 2021, they will have to overcome a lot of hurdles.

"We will have to get clearances from the broadcasters and ICC for a four-nation tournament. Then, there are the Future Tours Programme (FTP) areas to look at, as to where do we fit it within the FTP," the BCCI chief said.

"But it's just a way to create a niche tournament. We are looking for quality cricket. What we see today, is only bilaterals happening," he added.

Ganguly's idea of a Super ODI Series has been hailed by both Cricket Australia and England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB). But former Pakistan captain Rashid Latif believes the proposal will be a "flop" one just like the "Big Three Model".

"By playing such a series, these four countries want to isolate the other member nations which is not a good news. But I think this will be a flop idea like the Big Three model, which was introduced few years back," Latif has said.

Responding to the criticism, Ganguly said the tournament is not meant only to benefit "The Big Three". "There will be a fourth team as well. We have to just fit this tournament in the gap, which is the biggest challenge. The agenda just is a high class tournament with very powerful teams put together."

"Very rarely do you get to see India, Australia, England and South Africa or a New Zealand play a quadrangular tournament," he added.

The BCCI chief also made it clear that the Indian players will have to go to the National Cricket Academy (NCA) in Bengaluru for post-injury rehabilitation. Ganguly's comments came after his meeting with Head of Cricket at the NCA Rahul Dravid.

"I met Rahul Dravid yesterday, and we have put a system in place. The bowlers will have to go to the NCA. If anybody (else) has to treat them, they will have to come to NCA," Ganguly said.

"Whatever may be the reason, we will accommodate everything. We will also make sure the players are comfortable and they don't feel left out or out of place. So, we will do it that way."

"We are going full throttle with the NCA. Construction work will start (at the new land) and it will be a state-of-the-art unit. In 18 months time, if we are still there, you will see an NCA that will be spick and span."

https://www.newindianexpress.com/sp...igh-class-tourney-sourav-ganguly-2082000.html

 

[Hasan123]

Watching elite teams and elite players play against each other in a meaningful series is boring and not interesting for some LOL? How are you people cricket fans if this is boring?

This sounds more fun than watching one of these teams beat Sri Lanka, Pakistan, or Bangladesh black and blue in a bilateral series.

 

[barah_admi]

Purely on merit the 4th team should be NZ. Mouth watering contest this is gonna be.

What if Pakistan ranks 4th in the ODI rankings?

Also, curious you speak of merit while Australia is ranked lower than India and England in the ODI rankings and yet will be a mainstay fixture of this proposed tournament. Mind to explain that?