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We all know the Asia Cup has no value anywhere.

With second string squads send by Pakistan, India and Sri Lanka, it's obvious only minnows like Bangladesh and Afghanistan are taking it seriously

So what do we think the squad should be for the Australia series? Let's discuss the more important tour

No off topic posts about the Minnow Cup please.
 
Agreed

we should not focus on these tiny tournaments

Aus test series is the one i am waiting for.
 
I have been saying this from a long while. It is an irrelevant tournament and a win or loss means nothing. Many posters felt I was saying it to make comments for the face-saving after loss. But what I was just stating the true point. This is not a match or the tournament India really cared and Pakistan also shouldn't have cared much of it.
 
Ab Fan said:
I have been saying this from a long while. It is an irrelevant tournament and a win or loss means nothing. Many posters felt I was saying it to make comments for the face-saving after loss. But what I was just stating the true point. This is not a match or the tournament India really cared and Pakistan also shouldn't have cared much of it.
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No one here is watching except those on PP who are obsessed by it. This isn't some World Cup game for it to be big
 
Aisa cup is not important for teams like India and Sri Lanka. They won it 6 and 5 times respectively. It is important for teams like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, HK.
Pakistan won it only 2 times.
 
Aus Vs Pakistan should be a great series.

World #7 Vs the worst touring side in Asia. I give Aussies the edge.
 
dhonixi said:
Aisa cup is not important for teams like India and Sri Lanka. They won it 6 and 5 times respectively. It is important for teams like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, HK.
Pakistan won it only 2 times.
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This is like saying India should care if we bring Sharjah Cup back because we've won it more. It's a nothing tournament. We shouldn't take part next time
 
dhonixi said:
Aisa cup is not important for teams like India and Sri Lanka. They won it 6 and 5 times respectively. It is important for teams like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, HK.
Pakistan won it only 2 times.
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Hahaha.. We are ahead of this match yet we don't rate it as a much relevant tournament.

Another match will happen between the two teams in this tournament and again the same hype, same non-sense will continue. This is hardly a tournament worth wasting your time.
 
You wouldn't be saying it if Pakistan were winning.
 
MenInG said:
You wouldn't be saying it if Pakistan were winning.
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I would. It's a useless tournament with one strong team to face for both India and Pakistan and literal minnows like Hong Kong, Afghanistan and Bangladesh :))
 
InziRules said:
I would. It's a useless tournament with one strong team to face for both India and Pakistan and literal minnows like Hong Kong, Afghanistan and Bangladesh :))
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Your team lost to minnows Bangladesh last time in Asia Cup
 
InziRules said:
We all know the Asia Cup has no value anywhere.

With second string squads send by Pakistan, India and Sri Lanka, it's obvious only minnows like Bangladesh and Afghanistan are taking it seriously

So what do we think the squad should be for the Australia series? Let's discuss the more important tour

No off topic posts about the Minnow Cup please.
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Poor post.

Giving a chance to others to laugh at us. Asia Cup is important.
 
Agreed. India-Pakistan rivarly is dead. Looking forward to the Australia/SA series. No one really cares about India-Pakistan matches in Pakistan anymore. :ronaldo
 
Lol @ people caring about a Test Series in UAE. I think this one match will have more audience than the whole test series against Aus and NZ in UAE combined.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
In psychiatry this sort of behavior is called reaction formation.
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No buddy, we saw the light. Indian posters were adamant that they didnt care about the Ind-Pak match and we agree with them too, we also dont care. Win-win.
 
boomboomcheema said:
Lol @ people caring about a Test Series in UAE. I think this one match will have more audience than the whole test series against Aus and NZ in UAE combined.
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This match 1.3 million audience on Hotstar alone. If the test series can get 13 thousand people to watch it will be an achievement.
 
Lol what are you saying Pakistan came well this prepared its good actually they collapsed so they know what to do . Today’s game yes isn’t so important but coming Sunday will be and this cup is important too
 
Slim said:
No buddy, we saw the light. Indian posters were adamant that they didnt care about the Ind-Pak match and we agree with them too, we also dont care. Win-win.
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I don't care what fans of other countries think or say.
I consider every international match as important and that is enough for me. I don't really like to troll others for what they pretend to do or don't do.
 
The good thing about today's batting performance is that some of our player would come back to ground from cloud 9. It always gives you things to improve, hopefully Arthur will put his foot down again after a period of relative loosening.
 
The Australia is test series is important but the Asia Cup is still important because we need to find the right combination for the WC. Losing in the fashion we did today doesn't help the players confidence when playing India in the future.
 
Agreed. Pakistan have lost all of their last 3 tests in the UAE. It would be a new low for pakistan if this OZ tean managed to win even 1 test.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Agreed. Pakistan have lost all of their last 3 tests in the UAE. It would be a new low for pakistan if this OZ tean managed to win even 1 test.
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NZ last played a test in SC in 2015/16, I think. Australia without Smith is the weakest team in the world in Asia. Even BAN will whitewash this Aus team at home.

If Pakistan achieves anything less than whitewashes against both Aus and NZ, it will be a real embarrassment.
 
InziRules said:
We all know the Asia Cup has no value anywhere.

With second string squads send by Pakistan, India and Sri Lanka, it's obvious only minnows like Bangladesh and Afghanistan are taking it seriously

So what do we think the squad should be for the Australia series? Let's discuss the more important tour

No off topic posts about the Minnow Cup please.
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Timing is conincidental.

Btw Pakistan have sent their full strength side. They're just running into teams stronger than Zimbabwe and Ireland.
 
Pakistan came into this Asia Cup with a full strength squad.

Indian squad is only missing Kohli who according to some fans here is injured. That means he is not rested and would have played if he was fit. That also means BCCI cares about Asia Cup.
 
Asia Cup isn't a high profile event a multinational tournament is always more interesting to me than a bilateral series.
 
Can you please list all the players from Pakistan's full strength team that are missing?
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Pakistan came into this Asia Cup with a full strength squad.

Indian squad is only missing Kohli who according to some fans here is injured. That means he is not rested and would have played if he was fit. That also means BCCI cares about Asia Cup.
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News about resting Kohli came before start of 5th test vs England as far as I remember.
He is newly married and also did bulk of the batting in English conditions so BCCI felt it was necessary to rest him. After all it's important to manage him till 2023 world cup and not let him burn out into early retirement.
 
Pakistan Squad For Test Series Against Austraila...........
In my opinion.............

Imam ul Haq
Azhar Ali
Umar Amin
Asad Shafiq
Fawad Alam
Sarfraz Ahmad(c)
Hassan Ali
Yasir Shah
Mohammad Asghar
Junaid Khan
Mohammad Abbas

Shaheen Shah
Wahab Riaz
Mir Hamza
Usman Salahudin
Harris Sohail
 
India cared about SA and Eng away series. Pak cared about NZ series.

We all saw what happened in those series.
 
BDfanforever said:
India cared about SA and Eng away series. Pak cared about NZ series.

We all saw what happened in those series.
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This may seem rude to you but as a BD fan I don't think you fully understand why those series are more important to us.

When Pak tours NZ, their players, their fans, everyone knows that there is a real possibility of the team winning there.

Same for Indians when they tour Eng.

I don't think BD players or fans have that kind of aspirations, yet. So yes, while the Asia Cup is an important tournament for Ind and Pak, a tour to NZ or Eng is more important.
 
the_outsider said:
This may seem rude to you but as a BD fan I don't think you fully understand why those series are more important to us.

When Pak tours NZ, their players, their fans, everyone knows that there is a real possibility of the team winning there.

Same for Indians when they tour Eng.

I don't think BD players or fans have that kind of aspirations, yet. So yes, while the Asia Cup is an important tournament for Ind and Pak, a tour to NZ or Eng is more important.
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Its not rude at all. From what i see , you guys usually get beaten up pretty badly in tests over there. My point is, you can care about those series more but you will at least get destroyed in tests over there. That part is pretty much guaranteed.
 
LOL, before the match everyone was upbeat and after the thrashing received, tournament not important. LMAO
 
BDfanforever said:
Its not rude at all. From what i see , you guys usually get beaten up pretty badly in tests over there. My point is, you can care about those series more but you will at least get destroyed in tests over there. That part is pretty much guaranteed.
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Fair enough. But you must understand that even today, going down swinging in a test match in Eng/NZ means more to Ind/Pak than winning against BAN does.
 
Why does one have to be more important than the other? Why can't they both hold they own individual significance?
 
InziRules said:
We all know the Asia Cup has no value anywhere.

With second string squads send by Pakistan, India and Sri Lanka, it's obvious only minnows like Bangladesh and Afghanistan are taking it seriously

So what do we think the squad should be for the Australia series? Let's discuss the more important tour

No off topic posts about the Minnow Cup please.
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Your post would have some credibility if you posted it before the Pakistani innings began. As you posted it around the time Pakistan was already 6 or 7 down, it just comes across as an unconvincing apology.
 
the_outsider said:
Fair enough. But you must understand that even today, going down swinging in a test match in Eng/NZ means more to Ind/Pak than winning against BAN does.
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Ok I understand. What tournament or series do you guys take seriously in order? World Cup still less than a NZ or Aus tour?

Side note: you guys still have thing for the Brits even though they left Indian subcontinent while ago. See this is primarily the reason I stopped watching bollywood movies as most of the actress these days are not even indian.
 
BDfanforever said:
Ok I understand. What tournament or series do you guys take seriously in order? World Cup still less than a NZ or Aus tour?

Side note: you guys still have thing for the Brits even though they left Indian subcontinent while ago. See this is primarily the reason I stopped watching bollywood movies as most of the actress these days are not even indian.
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I don't know what Bollywood has to do with all this.

For India, a test series win in SENA is a bigger deal than winning the Asia Cup for the 7th time. If you don't like it then there is nothing I can do about it. But that is the reality.
 
Asia cup is not important but beating India to it is!!
Today's game was hyped and out of the 3 we play against them ( hopefully) it was the least important.
We just need to iron a few things out and we will be fine.
Babar looked good which is a plus and the rest won't ALL throw their wickets away like that after the rocket they get from Mickey.
No blame on the bowlers today
 
So when Kohli skipped the Asia cup, my Pak friends were crying out loud and ask for him to skip WI series instead but all of sudden for some Pak fans Asia cup becomes meaningless and started to throw Aus series in. No one can take such fans seriously.
 
InziRules said:
We all know the Asia Cup has no value anywhere.

With second string squads send by Pakistan, India and Sri Lanka, it's obvious only minnows like Bangladesh and Afghanistan are taking it seriously

So what do we think the squad should be for the Australia series? Let's discuss the more important tour

No off topic posts about the Minnow Cup please.
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Nonsense. What second string squads? Pakistan sent its A team, as did everyone else, but Virat less India. Who may well win it anyway. And what is the purpose of bring the Oz series into this? It is a bit like people asserting that they didn't mind loosing to NZ if we won in Oz. Sure, but why assume that there is some kind of tradeoff? Couldn't we do well in both tourneys? Isn't that what being a good side is about? Consistency? And what if we just get thrashed anywhere? How is loosing a good thing for Pakistani cricket?
 
Still stand by this, even after our second string team without Imad, Hafeez, Shadab beat Afghan XI
 
From an Indian perspective:-

Scrap Asia Cup. Unnecessary hype, unnecessary pressure, if you win, it means nothing but if you lose, it is hailed as humiliation, lol.

BCCI should declare a statement that Asia Cup should be scrapped after this tournament or else Indian team will give a walkover to Bangladesh in the finals and won't participate in Asia Cup. The unnecessary craze, hype, limelight and if you lose a match or even tie one, it is like you did the biggest blunder of your lifetime. Just scrap it.

Instead of it, make a tri-series between Aus/SA/India with the tournament name something as "Best of the best" and play that.
 
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InziRules said:
We all know the Asia Cup has no value anywhere.

With second string squads send by Pakistan, India and Sri Lanka, it's obvious only minnows like Bangladesh and Afghanistan are taking it seriously

So what do we think the squad should be for the Australia series? Let's discuss the more important tour

No off topic posts about the Minnow Cup please.
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saadsahabjee said:
Agreed

we should not focus on these tiny tournaments

Aus test series is the one i am waiting for.
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InziRules said:
I would. It's a useless tournament with one strong team to face for both India and Pakistan and literal minnows like Hong Kong, Afghanistan and Bangladesh :))
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You wouldn't have faced such humiliation in your own backyard if you took it more seriously.
 
Asia cup should have much more competition. I am happy the way Afghanistan played in the tournament. Disappointed with pretty much rest of the side. I won't care if this is last asia cup cause teams like srilanka have gone no where and pakistan need to work hard. Bangladesh is okay side but with one or two teams asia cup is boring. Either make this t20 where any team has chance to win or just make an end it.
 
Test series in UAE vs a depleted Australia will be a cakewalk. No Smith, Warner, Hazlewood, Cummins. Thats like Pakistan playing without Azhar, Shafiq, Amir and Abbas.

Anything other than an Aussie whitewash will be an upset.
 
cricketindiafan said:
Test series in UAE vs a depleted Australia will be a cakewalk. No Smith, Warner, Hazlewood, Cummins. Thats like Pakistan playing without Azhar, Shafiq, Amir and Abbas.

Anything other than an Aussie whitewash will be an upset.
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No it's not the same thing. Smith, Warner and Hazlewood together have more talent than the entire Pakistan playing XI.

Australia fielding a team without those three is the same as Pakistan fielding a team of 11 Sarfraz - all screaming at each other.
 
Big tournament or not, the way Pakistan dropped out of it was shameful BUT yes, a test series win against Aus and then wins in the limited overs series will go a long way in mending that shame.

Now for the selection of the correct squad and correct team.
 
the_outsider said:
No it's not the same thing. Smith, Warner and Hazlewood together have more talent than the entire Pakistan playing XI.

Australia fielding a team without those three is the same as Pakistan fielding a team of 11 Sarfraz - all screaming at each other.
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Pakistan have previously annihilated an Aussie squad containing Warner, Clarke, Smith and Haddin, as well as their best pace bowler since Lee in Johnson.

So the point you're trying to make is pointless.
 
the_outsider said:
No it's not the same thing. Smith, Warner and Hazlewood together have more talent than the entire Pakistan playing XI.

Australia fielding a team without those three is the same as Pakistan fielding a team of 11 Sarfraz - all screaming at each other.
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Not really. Australia have been a minnow in Tests in Asia for long and would have got whitewashed in UAE even with their full strength 11.
 
The way Pakistans shambolic batting is performing in all Formats, the Aussies even under strengthened might fancy their chances of an upset here.
 
Sour Grapes?? I agree this tournament is not as important as Australian series everybody here would know that. But the truth is we played shockingly bad in this tournament and reality test is well and truly delivered after that Zimbabwe tour. Lost to Bangladesh who also didnt play very well in my opinion and were without Shakib and Tamim.
 
the_outsider said:
No it's not the same thing. Smith, Warner and Hazlewood together have more talent than the entire Pakistan playing XI.

Australia fielding a team without those three is the same as Pakistan fielding a team of 11 Sarfraz - all screaming at each other.
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Pakistan would demolish Australia in tests, full strength or half strength doesn't matter (for either side). Australia is minnow in Asia, and Pakistan doesn't gift matches to Non-SC team at home. I don't expect any competition whatsoever.
 
light said:
LOL, before the match everyone was upbeat and after the thrashing received, tournament not important. LMAO
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A 8 wkt demolition and two days another 9 wkt thrashing( the sole wicket being run out) at hands of your arch rivals, usually force many to rethink becoming a ice hockey fan at times
 
the_outsider said:
No it's not the same thing. Smith, Warner and Hazlewood together have more talent than the entire Pakistan playing XI.

Australia fielding a team without those three is the same as Pakistan fielding a team of 11 Sarfraz - all screaming at each other.
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Lol, one of the wittiest comment, good one brother :19:
 
I seriously think Pakistan critics are having a field day and getting too much tied up with the negative attitude. I think a positive attitude and constructive outlook is the need of the hour.
 
It's obvious that Test series is more important. I think we will see some surprises by this Australian team.
 
mp812rediff said:
A 8 wkt demolition and two days another 9 wkt thrashing( the sole wicket being run out) at hands of your arch rivals, usually force many to rethink becoming a ice hockey fan at times
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regardless of whichever team Wins or looses, you get to see some fist fight. LOL
 
Considering the ODI worid cup is still the most significant trophy to be won in cricket, I would say the performances in this tournament have been a great disappointment. Pakistan can't expect to be judged on test results alone, their horrible record in ODIs over the last few years tells a story of weakness in this format.
 
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