Australia vs Pakistan | 1st ODI | Melbourne | November 04 | Pre-Match Discussion

[mominsaigol]

Pakistan played 4 seamers against Finn Allen too. We know what happened there.

JFM will be very happy with this selection. This is his series to make it count

I'm really looking forward to see JFM bat.

He ain't gonna pause. He'll come at you. Pakistan will desperately want his wicket. Even a score of 50 from him will be extremely damaging

 

[Rana]

I'm really looking forward to see JFM bat.

He ain't gonna pause. He'll come at you. Pakistan will desperately want his wicket. Even a score of 50 from him will be extremely damaging

If JFM won’t get you, Matt Short will.

I hope Australia play Sean Abbott too. He will be great with the bat down the order too.

 

[kingusama92]

Interesting XI.

But maybe too much of the same in the batting lineup. Shafique, Babar, Rizwan, and Ghulam bat the same way.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Melbourne: Pakistan vs Australia ODI Series

Pakistani cricketers practiced at the MCG. They engaged in fielding, bowling, and batting drills.

Batters Abdullah Shafique, Saim Ayub, Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan, Kamran Ghulam, Salman Ali Agha, and Irfan Khan Niazi focused on batting practice.

Fast bowlers rested today as Pakistan will play its first match against Australia in Melbourne tomorrow.

 

[mominsaigol]

If JFM won’t get you, Matt Short will.

I hope Australia play Sean Abbott too. He will be great with the bat down the order too.

Matt Short is good and more mature then JFM, However I've seen JFM onsong. Their isnt anyone as destructive as he is when he's onsong, excluding Travis Head.

 

[adi_62941]

Rizzu symonds is a yes man. He is too naive. He is not like babar who wants a his authority. He will not last long as a captain

 

[Rana]

Matt Short is good and more mature then JFM, However I've seen JFM onsong. Their isnt anyone as destructive as he is when he's onsong, excluding Travis Head.

Nuclear warhead batter

 

[mominsaigol]

Nuclear warhead batter

If he starts performing more consistently then he'll be even more destructive then Travis Head.

JFM batting alongside Travis will be the perfect opportunity for him to grow in the future. I can see head being a mentor to jfm then short.

 

[mango_bite77]

Kamran Ghulam at 5 hahaha .

The top 5 is all accumulators? What a weak team

All looks good except Kamran at 5, he should surely bat ahead of Rizwan

 

[mominsaigol]

All looks good except Kamran at 5, he should surely bat ahead of Rizwan

Saim ayub and Abdullah are walking wickets. I'm hoping saim proves me wrong.

Abdullah, Babar and rizwan won't perform at all that much I'm 100% certain off.

They'll get to 50's max and that's a stretch.

 

[mango_bite77]

Saim ayub and Abdullah are walking wickets. I'm hoping saim proves me wrong.

Abdullah, Babar and rizwan won't perform at all that much I'm 100% certain off.

They'll get to 50's max and that's a stretch.

Ok let's see. But what I meant is among the squad selected, this batting line up is fine, just little reshuffle in the batting order.

Now are the players selected enough to beat australia? that everyone knows, whatever team/players u select, the result is not gonna change much.

 

[m.shah]

Pakistan played 4 seamers against Finn Allen too. We know what happened there.

JFM will be very happy with this selection. This is his series to make it count

That too when pacers are average

 

[mon858]

Even after England series they don't realize weakness of sena teams is spin not pace. You need a good quality specialist spinner to give middle over breakthroughs. Our 4 pacers will go for plenty.

 

[khyberlion]

Amir Jamal and Arafat Minhas should have played.

 

[TeymurBlake]

Surprised Pakistan didn't play Jamal. Pakistan have to take 10 wickets. With the performance in the 2nd Test in Multan, Kamran Ghulam lacks the ability to play pace bowling.

He's going to be debuting in conditions a top side & against top quality pacers on Monday at No.5 where he'll need to play at a higher strike rate, which really isn't his game.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Pakistan playing Karman at 5 because they don't trust their batting lineup and are afraid of a collapse. I sort of get it, it's because they are playing relatively inexperienced squad but as usual, it's a defensive & conservative strategy. No main spinner and Pakistani bowlers generally get annihilated across formats in Australia so going with only 4 main bowlers may backfire big time.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Pakistan playing Karman at 5 because they don't trust their batting lineup and are afraid of a collapse. I sort of get it, it's because they are playing relatively inexperienced squad but as usual, it's a defensive & conservative strategy. No main spinner and Pakistani bowlers generally get annihilated across formats in Australia so going with only 4 main bowlers may backfire big time.

Yep. It's an XI packed with accumulators

 

[PakPremi]

Jamal would have given boost to batting and has bowled ok in Australia last tour, albeit in Test matches. One is Shaheen and Naseem should play each match.Not playing a spinner is huge mistake too.

 

[Markhor]

If one of the pacers have a bad day (which isn't a big if) then we are snookered.

 

[alishahid]

Does irfan niazi bowl?

 

[mominsaigol]

Does irfan niazi bowl?

He's never bowled a single delivery in List A cricket in his entire life.

He's bowled in fc and t20 but barely. He ain't a bowler.

 

[Kianig89]

Pitch might have a tinge of green on it, toss will be crucial for Pakistan , business as usual for Australia

 

[alishahid]

Saw him bowling in the nets against babar

He's never bowled a single delivery in List A cricket in his entire life.

He's bowled in fc and t20 but barely. He ain't a bowler.

lets hope saim and salman do well with the ball. Got a feeling that saim might pick up a couple of wickets

 

[mominsaigol]

Saw him bowling in the nets against babar

lets hope saim and salman do well with the ball. Got a feeling that saim might pick up a couple of wickets

One of these 3 will have to bowl as pakistan only has 4 pacers in the unit atm

 

[Nikhil_cric]

If one of the pacers have a bad day (which isn't a big if) then we are snookered.

Basically Haris Rauf. The others should do OK.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Pitch might have a tinge of green on it, toss will be crucial for Pakistan , business as usual for Australia

Bowl first and restrict OZ to 260-270 if that's the case.

 

[RidiculousMan]

My prayers are with Rizwan. May he start off with a win

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Does irfan niazi bowl?

he is more like a part time bowler just like saim ayub

 

[Farabi]

Pakistan playing Karman at 5 because they don't trust their batting lineup and are afraid of a collapse. I sort of get it, it's because they are playing relatively inexperienced squad but as usual, it's a defensive & conservative strategy. No main spinner and Pakistani bowlers generally get annihilated across formats in Australia so going with only 4 main bowlers may backfire big time.

I don’t get the obsession with one-size-fits-all strategies. Pakistan succeeded in the 2022 T20 World Cup with four fast bowlers—Wasim Jr., Rauf, Shaheen, and Naseem—tailored to Australian conditions.

The MCG, especially early season, suits pacers, not players like F Akram or Arafat Minhas, who might be better on slower pitches like Adelaide or Sydney.

For No. 7, we had Nawaz in the T20 World Cup, but did he add much? A mix of Saim, Agha, and KG could easily match that.

Pakistan lacks genuine all-rounders; we have bits-and-pieces players. Amir Jamal has potential but isn’t yet reliable. I’d rather see specialists ON this ground and ON this pitch.

 

[Farabi]

Yep. It's an XI packed with accumulators

Batting is the art of run accumulation, but of course you need a lot of skill and practice to “accumulate runs” whilst managing risk, which this middle order has. That’s the best thing about this team that it has proper batters. Not fake “Powerhitters” like Shadab, Asif Ali, Haider Ali, Khusdil Shah, Azam Khan, and Danish Aziz. God please no!!!
The only one I am not convinced in this team is Irfan Khan Niazi, because while he does have the big shots, he doesn’t have any mileage in domestic.

 

[Rana]

Batting is the art of run accumulation, but of course you need a lot of skill and practice to “accumulate runs” whilst managing risk, which this middle order has. That’s the best thing about this team that it has proper batters. Not fake “Powerhitters” like Shadab, Asif Ali, Haider Ali, Khusdil Shah, Azam Khan, and Danish Aziz. God please no!!!
The only one I am not convinced in this team is Irfan Khan Niazi, because while he does have the big shots, he doesn’t have any mileage in domestic.

Proper covid fan

 

[PakFan2010]

What a rubbish 11!

Usman Khan and Fakhar Zaman should both be in the top 6 for Pakistan.

 

[Bewal Express]

My prayers are with Rizwan. May he start off with a win

IA.

 

[usman.sandhu]

Serious question, why are Babar Azam, SSA and Haris Rauf in the team, they have been really poor over the past couple of years - it is high time to send this bunch back to domestic cricket and only pick them if they prove their form and fitness.

And really poor from Rizwan / selection committee to go with 4 specialist bowlers only - Saim and Agha will be smashed..

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Absolutely terrible XI picked by Pakistan for first ODI. Pakistan trump cards were Arafat & Faisal and both are ignored. Aussies are not scared from pace.

exactly their only hopes are to use the spinners to demolish the Aussies but they have given a leeway with Haris rauf and Hasnain these two cannot swing or seam the ball but can bowl fast which is what Aussies want to hammer them all round the park..

 

[Farabi]

Proper covid fan

The covid era fans have fallen sick on T20 comfort eating and live in a lala land.
50 overs is a lot of overs in MCG vs this bowling quality.

 

[Farabi]

exactly their only hopes are to use the spinners to demolish the Aussies but they have given a leeway with Haris rauf and Hasnain these two cannot swing or seam the ball but can bowl fast which is what Aussies want to hammer them all round the park..

Use spinners in MCG?

 

[Ahmed216]

Use spinners in MCG?

Is early season
We lost against India in 2022 WC because Bobsy played Nawaz over Mo Wasim.

2 days before the game I posted here we should play 4 seamers. Wasim should play not Nawaz.

In that game Iftikhar chachu hit 3 sixes in one over to Axar kicking off his legendary career

 

[Farabi]

Is early season
We lost against India in 2022 WC because Bobsy played Nawaz over Mo Wasim.

2 days before the game I posted here we should play 4 seamers. Wasim should play not Nawaz.

In that game Iftikhar chachu hit 3 sixes in one over to Axar kicking off his legendary career

Absolutely, cricket is so much about conditions—maybe 70%. Same here, I was saying Mohammad Wasim Jr. should play instead in T20 WC. You’ve got to respect the conditions. Recently, just a shift in conditions totally changed how Noman and Sajid performed.

The only close decision was between Irfan and Jamal. Theoretically, Jamal might’ve seemed like a better choice, but he’s still pretty raw, especially with a List A batting average of 12 in ODIs and his bowling in White Ball feels far from ready.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

An aggressive and positive selection by Riz for his first ODI as skipper to go with 4 quicks.

It s up to them to deliver with pace and aggression otherwise running in and bowling 83 to 84 MPH will be carted.

Yorkers, Bouncers and Slow bouncers on big square of the wicket boundaries will be wicket taking options.

Saim , KG and Salman have the responsibility to bowl out 10 which might play into our hands if the Aussies are chasing 2nd innings.

Aamir jamal and Minhas can count themselves unlucky to miss out but they will get an opportunity at some point in the series.

Good to see Hasnain return.

Congrats to Saim , KG and IK for getting their debuts.

This will be a good test for KG playing the short ball on fast , bouncy aussie wickets while Saim , ABD and IK will enjoy playing on these wickets.

The aussie middle order is packed with experience which will give them an edge in home conditions.

 

[neonoir]

I'm very surprised that Pak hasn't opted for a genuine spinner Australia has always had 1 genuine spinner in their team at home. From Warne,Hogg to Zampa

I understand that Faisal Akram is young and untested but on surfaces in Aus a spinner always make a difference.

I guarantee you Zampa will have the best figures tomorrow.

 

[Bilal Ahmad15]

Is Muhammad Irfan Khan a spinner?

Really hoping someone says yes