Australia vs Pakistan | 3rd T20I | Hobart | Nov 18 | Pre-Match Discussion

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Pakistan is on the brink of a humiliating whitewash by an inexperienced Australia side as they face them in the third and final T20I at Hobart's Bellerive Oval on Monday, November 18. Pakistan have struggled to find their footing, suffering consecutive losses despite promising performances from individual players.

The second T20I saw Australia's Spencer Johnson steal the show with a 5-26 haul, while Usman Khan's valiant 52 went in vain as Pakistan fell 13 runs short. Haris Rauf's impressive 4-22 helped restrict Australia, and he became Pakistan's joint-leading wicket-taker in T20Is with 107 scalps.

To avoid the whitewash, Pakistan must address their batting woes and find a way to chase targets effectively. Australia, boosted by their momentum, will look to complete a stunning sweep. Can Pakistan salvage pride, or will Australia's young guns finish the job?

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Babar and Naseem should have played their last ever T 20 today . Shaheen is also on thin ice for this format while Rizwan is surviving since all the keeping options are absolutely rubbish
 
Babar and Naseem should have played their last ever T 20 today . Shaheen is also on thin ice for this format while Rizwan is surviving since all the keeping options are absolutely rubbish
How is Muhammad Harris any more useless than Rizwan?
 
They will pick an unchanged XI to make sure they can preserve their spots by scoring useless runs

And there will be fanboys telling us Babar and Rizwan are so important to Pakistan cricket
 
Q. What’s the difference between this team and Pakistan on this tour?

A. Uganda doesn’t have Harris Rauf.
 

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How is Muhammad Harris any more useless than Rizwan?
More then haris, Usman Khan is avg 74 in List A and frequently top scoring in t20 leagues. These are the same tournaments in which rizzu played as well.

How rizzu is a whiteball keeper captain ahead of him is beyond me
 
We have two things we can hold on to firmly; Past glories and discussing the next game.
 
Pakistan could win the third encounter if the batters don't ruin the bowlers efforts
 
From the available 15 it's clutching at straws to select a decent Xi

Farhan
Babar
Usman
Haseebullah
Irfan Khan
Abbas Afridi
Rizwan
Jehandad
SsA
Rauf
Sufyan
 
From the available 15 it's clutching at straws to select a decent Xi

Farhan
Babar
Usman
Haseebullah
Irfan Khan
Abbas Afridi
Rizwan
Jehandad
SsA
Rauf
Sufyan
Oh yar

Haath jurre hain mere!
 
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What's the problem is team ma kia masla ha , dead rubber give these guys a go
Why are you suggesting hogwosh playing XIs? There is more chance of India coming to Pakistan for the Champions trophy than Rizwan batting at 7!
 
fielding was horrible last game
batting was horrible

only bowling going right
 
This should be the playing 11 at Hobart

Farhan
Rizwan ( as he is the captain )
Usman ( he has scored in 2nd T20, unfortunately )
Omair Yusuf
Irfan Niazi
Haseebullah
Jahandad
Haris
Abbas afridi
Shaheen ( there is not many bowler in the squad )
Sufyan
 
Omair
Farhan
Rizwan
Usman
Haseeb
Jahandad
Abbas
Sufiyan
Arafat
Shaheen
Haris

FINE NOW??
So you're kicking out niazi even though he almost won the 2nd t20, infact he would have won it if not for rizzu's 16 of 26.

And you're replacing him with the Legend of Hasebullah?
 
So you're kicking out niazi even though he almost won the 2nd t20, infact he would have won it if not for rizzu's 16 of 26.

And you're replacing him with the Legend of Hasebullah?
Oh yes I forgot about him... SUrely he should be there...
 
Oh yes I forgot about him... SUrely he should be there...
The squad sucks plain and simple. Theirs nothing you or I can do that'll fix it. The best possible and Realistic combination would be

1) Omair Bin Yousaf(with farhan failing I can see him being slotted in)

2) Rizwan (Loser won't leave and he's captain, no choice)

3) Babar (Max he'll slot down to no 3, Rizzu won't ever drop him)

4) Usman Khan (His 50 ensures he'll play)

5) Salman Ali Agha (VC ain't going nowhere)

6) Irfan Khan Niazi (Will play)

7) Jahdad Khan (Only realistic change as I can see him replacing Shaheen or Naseem)

8) Abass Afridi (Will play)

9) Shaheen/Naseem (One of these boys are playing)

10) Sufiyan

11) Rauf

^^ I guarantee you realistically only one of shaheen/naseem will be dropped and farhan will be dropped.

But knowing rizzu he might just go for the same 11 unchanged.
 
The squad sucks plain and simple. Theirs nothing you or I can do that'll fix it. The best possible and Realistic combination would be

1) Omair Bin Yousaf(with farhan failing I can see him being slotted in)

2) Rizwan (Loser won't leave and he's captain, no choice)

3) Babar (Max he'll slot down to no 3, Rizzu won't ever drop him)

4) Usman Khan (His 50 ensures he'll play)

5) Salman Ali Agha (VC ain't going nowhere)

6) Irfan Khan Niazi (Will play)

7) Jahdad Khan (Only realistic change as I can see him replacing Shaheen or Naseem)

8) Abass Afridi (Will play)

9) Shaheen/Naseem (One of these boys are playing)

10) Sufiyan

11) Rauf

^^ I guarantee you realistically only one of shaheen/naseem will be dropped and farhan will be dropped.

But knowing rizzu he might just go for the same 11 unchanged.
I made that team for sarcastic purposes but I agree with this team. Best possible team we can have
 
I made that team for sarcastic purposes but I agree with this team. Best possible team we can have
This is the most realistic team we can have.

Best possible is another matter entirely.

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Saim Ayub
3) Usman Khan(Should be promoted to 3)
4) Omair Bin Yousaf(If he replicates his Acc cup performance)
5) Irfan Khan Niazi( I'm starting to change my mind about him, He's gone not out many tines and is aggressive, Good performance in champions cup as well)
6) Abdul Samad (I think he's fine for t20, useless in odi, but worth a try in t20)
7) Haris (Swing for the stands, No point in wasting time)

^^ That is honestly thr best you can hope for. Pakistan talent pool is dry. Only option is to play fakhar + Saim at opening amd everyone does tulla bazi
 
This is the most realistic team we can have.

Best possible is another matter entirely.

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Saim Ayub
3) Usman Khan(Should be promoted to 3)
4) Omair Bin Yousaf(If he replicates his Acc cup performance)
5) Irfan Khan Niazi( I'm starting to change my mind about him, He's gone not out many tines and is aggressive, Good performance in champions cup as well)
6) Abdul Samad (I think he's fine for t20, useless in odi, but worth a try in t20)
7) Haris (Swing for the stands, No point in wasting time)

^^ That is honestly thr best you can hope for. Pakistan talent pool is dry. Only option is to play fakhar + Saim at opening amd everyone does tulla bazi
Fakhar yes. sure.

We need to make a team for this game from the available squad.

Haris is tried and tested failure at every level. No point on investing him

Invest in usman as a keeper if you are gonna play him in T20s now permanently.
 
Fakhar yes. sure.

We need to make a team for this game from the available squad.

Haris is tried and tested failure at every level. No point on investing him

Invest in usman as a keeper if you are gonna play him in T20s now permanently.
Who's your no 7, let's hear it? Abass afridi I don't mind
 
The team is really bad. I don't see them winning this.
From 3 day's ago ( the way Pakistan fan's were reacted After winning the series against australia D) they were World beater suddenly they are becomes very bad. :kp
 
My 11

Riz
Omair yousuf
Bobsy
Usman
Irfan
Arafat
Jahandad
Afridi
Rauf
Muqeem
Naseem/Shaheen
 
From 3 day's ago ( the way Pakistan fan's were reacted After winning the series against australia D) they were World beater suddenly they are becomes very bad. :kp

Different formats.

The ODI team has issues but isn't hopeless because it's Babar's best format too.

While they did well in the ODIs, this T20I team is rubbish.
 
For God sake drop Rizwan, Naseem and Shaheen.
Naseem and Shaheen are not taking this game seriously, they are always laughing even if they drop catches.
Rizwan game is suitable for odi and maybe to some extent in tests but definitely not in t20.He just ruins my day when he is on the crease. I just switched off when he was batting, if ever Allah khair karein I faced depression he will be one of the reasons, he just cannot hit a ball perfectly.
Give babar this last t20 and if he plays well keep him for southafrica your and their if he fails just throw him out and bring completely new changes to this team. Don't bring fakhar for God sake he is good for odi. He is also not cut out for t20 because of being too much inconsistent.
This is what our team 11 should be after Southafrica tour:
1. Saim
2. Sahibzada ( but tell him to smash from ball 2)
3. Abdullah ( he is perfect replacement for babar)
4. Usman
5. Haris/Irfan khan
6.irfan khan/ Haris (Irfan needs to work on his bowling more so that we can move from full toser shadab as well)
7. Samad (that new guy that guy can smash)
8. Abbas
9. Hasnain/ any new pace sensation after psl can replace him.
10. Haris
11. Sufiyan
 
Different formats.

The ODI team has issues but isn't hopeless because it's Babar's best format too.

While they did well in the ODIs, this T20I team is rubbish.

Yep. The ODI team is actually decent. Notwithstanding the thrashing in the last World Cup, the likes of Rizwan , Bobby etc. are decent ODI cricketers.

T20 side has been in free fall for last 3 years.
 
For God sake drop Rizwan, Naseem and Shaheen.
Naseem and Shaheen are not taking this game seriously, they are always laughing even if they drop catches.
Rizwan game is suitable for odi and maybe to some extent in tests but definitely not in t20.He just ruins my day when he is on the crease. I just switched off when he was batting, if ever Allah khair karein I faced depression he will be one of the reasons, he just cannot hit a ball perfectly.
Give babar this last t20 and if he plays well keep him for southafrica your and their if he fails just throw him out and bring completely new changes to this team. Don't bring fakhar for God sake he is good for odi. He is also not cut out for t20 because of being too much inconsistent.
This is what our team 11 should be after Southafrica tour:
1. Saim
2. Sahibzada ( but tell him to smash from ball 2)
3. Abdullah ( he is perfect replacement for babar)
4. Usman
5. Haris/Irfan khan
6.irfan khan/ Haris (Irfan needs to work on his bowling more so that we can move from full toser shadab as well)
7. Samad (that new guy that guy can smash)
8. Abbas
9. Hasnain/ any new pace sensation after psl can replace him.
10. Haris
11. Sufiyan
Fakhar is fine to open in t20
 
Talk about this game brothers.

3rd T20 is the main topic here. We can talk about the future squads somewhere else
 
Fakhar is fine to open in t20
I am sorry Momin.
But this image says otherwise. It's telling us that Fakhar is one innings wonder and that also doesn't happen too often. In every big tournaments ( leaving bilaterals) he has always flopped. His strike rate remains same like rizwan, you will be shocked i have seen babar playing faster than fakhar in t20i. I have actually seen this. In t20 it's face 1 2 balls that's it now smash. If you are not happy with Rizwan and babar than don't accept fakhar to do you any favor. I don't have to talk that much I know he will be selected for future t20i series and there be will surely prove me right. Sharjeel is a better option than him.
 

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I am sorry Momin.
But this image says otherwise. It's telling us that Fakhar is one innings wonder and that also doesn't happen too often. In every big tournaments ( leaving bilaterals) he has always flopped. His strike rate remains same like rizwan, you will be shocked i have seen babar playing faster than fakhar in t20i. I have actually seen this. In t20 it's face 1 2 balls that's it now smash. If you are not happy with Rizwan and babar than don't accept fakhar to do you any favor. I don't have to talk that much I know he will be selected for future t20i series and there be will surely prove me right. Sharjeel is a better option than him.
Before Fakhar was dropped as an opener he hit a purple patch in t20.

He was a poor opener in 2017 and early 2018 but once the aus-Zimbabwe tri series happened, Fakhar smacked Australia into next week. Infact his 91 of 46 came against peak aussie bowling and put pakistan at no 1 rank.

Every other batter failed and he solo carried the team.

However after 2018 tri series pakistan didn't play any more t20's due to world cup 2019 prep. As soon as wc 2019 ended, Misbah decided to make.rizzu open as fakhar was injured for one game.

Then during the sri lanka t20 series, Misbah went out of his way to purposely lose that series 3-0, he was even questioned about it in the press and misbah got furious and said don't blame me, I didn't ask my right handed batters to bat left handed.

Then in that very series and other series he told fakhar he sucks and isn't good enough and must slot down to 4 to let rizzu and sharjeel open.

Then he dropped sharjeel and had rizzu and Babar open.

Misbah actually wanted rizwan as captain back them however rizzu at that time was a failure in all formats and failed the tri series as a no 4 so he couldn't have another azhar ali repeat situation so Babar was made captain.

I have been following their career trajectory and I know full well what occurred.

Fakhar was dropped for rizwan during his purple patch which is unforgivable
 
After seeing Babar and Rizwan come out to open yesterday

I really hope ICC bans Pakistan from cricket
 
They already lost the match when babar replaced farhan. I mean there is a limit for selfishness. Babar is such a weak timid and low power player. He looks tailender when you need him to hit hard. Even David warner was shaming him for not building arm muscles.
 
Everyone who has not gotten a chance should get a chance to play here. Babar should definitely be dropped if for no other reason than the fact that he is not going to Zim so someone who is going should be tried. Same for Naseem. Shaheen has to be played only cause we have no other options. My team would be:

Usman
Omair
Haseebullah
Rizwan
Minhas
Irfan
Jahandad
Abbas
Shaheen
Sufyan
Haris
 
Let the youngsters play this game, Haseebullah Minhas all should play and RizBar should not open strictly
 
Let the youngsters play this game, Haseebullah Minhas all should play and RizBar should not open strictly
Who are you to tell Rizwan what to do now? Remember the verses you were quoting when he was announced captain?
 
They will pick an unchanged XI to make sure they can preserve their spots by scoring useless runs

And there will be fanboys telling us Babar and Rizwan are so important to Pakistan cricket

They have been quite crafty in picking a squad where no one is capable of replacing them anyway. Haseebullah, Farhan and Salman are certainly not good enough to succeed at this level. The batting quality is abysmal.
 
Who are you to tell Rizwan what to do now? Remember the verses you were quoting when he was announced captain?
After all its all Allah's will , man can only strive have no doubt on Rizwan's intention 100%
 
Not sure why jahandad and yousuf haven't been picked
Australia are beating us with their c team but we still insist on playing our best team team on paper against them
The only modern t20 players we have are niazi,usman and rauf
 
After all its all Allah's will , man can only strive have no doubt on Rizwan's intention 100%
You have no doubt in Rizwan’s intention even after he came out to open with Babar yesterday?
 
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Also Babar should be replaced with Omair to open with farhan and riz should bat at 3.

Arafat should also come in for Shaheen
They are most likely going to give Farhan another game in name of fairness, wese bhi serious tu war ghi. Only Aqib would drop Babar from this format.
 
Everyone who has not gotten a chance should get a chance to play here. Babar should definitely be dropped if for no other reason than the fact that he is not going to Zim so someone who is going should be tried. Same for Naseem. Shaheen has to be played only cause we have no other options. My team would be:

Usman
Omair
Haseebullah
Rizwan
Minhas
Irfan
Jahandad
Abbas
Shaheen
Sufyan
Haris
I would replace Shaheen also with Faisal Akram. It's a t20. Series is gone. Let's everyone get a chance. And also there is a good chance that Faisal, Arafat and Sufyan can grab some crucial wickets and not go for 80 runs in their 8 overs like Shaheen and Nasim. Even if they do. What's the big deal. They won't go for 160 runs in 8 overs.
 
Little to play for.

But Aamer Jamal is a must.

Also letting go Saim when he was in such good form was criminal in itself.
 
With the series being lost, they should look to rest both Shaheen & Naseem and try Jahandad & Minhas. It'll give you more batting depth and an opportunity for youngsters to get a game in.

Batting wise, the options are crap so it matters little. I'd try:

Farhan/Rizwan/Babar/Usman/Haseebullah/Irfan/Minhas/Jahandad/Abbas/Sufiyan/Rauf

With batting depth until 9, maybe encourage the batters to go full tilt and see what you can put up.
 
Hobart apparently is another bouncy deck

Looks like 140 will be too much for Pakistan again
 
You don't support Pakistan anyway. Why worry so much?
Sorry for interfering
But i thought I should just correct you.
He doesn't support the yaari dosti squad and he doesn't support players who cannot hit a ball in t20i even if their life depends on it.
That doesn't mean he is not supporting this team.
people like him and us just want best for our team.
 
Sorry for interfering
But i thought I should just correct you.
He doesn't support the yaari dosti squad and he doesn't support players who cannot hit a ball in t20i even if their life depends on it.
That doesn't mean he is not supporting this team.
people like him and us just want best for our team.
Thank you for correcting. I guess it's fine hoping for Pakistan to get banned because of players you don't like.
 
Why doesn't pakistan just bat first if they win the toss? Itna dar?
You know it better than I do bro. Captain clueless will start second guessing if Pakistan need 120 runs or 140 runs and then will have nowhere to hide when the opposition chase it with 5 overs to spare
 
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You know it better than I do bro. Captain clueless will start second guessing if Pakistan need 120 runs or 140 runs and then will have nowhere to hide when the opposition chase it with 5 overs to spare
Tbf to rizzu, his field placements have been good, but I don't know of it's because he's a good captain or if it's just cause he's letting everyone just do what they want.

On one hand he hasn't wasted drs, on the other hand, he's straight stated that he just listens to his bowlers in field selections and let's them make fielding decisons while Babar never listened.

Like idk man, I've seen pat cummins captain and normally he just does his own thing and is the one telling his bowlers where to bowl and what to do, nor the other way around as is rizzu's case. The only bowler who doesn't listen to cummins is Starc and that has sometimes worked and sometimes backfired like it did against India.

Overall you have a captain who's a poor batter, doesn't know a thing about batting orders and how to bat with the team and in field selections and drs again idk if it's his genius or if he doesn't give a damn and is just telling everyone to do whatever lol
 
This should be the playing 11 at Hobart

Farhan
Rizwan ( as he is the captain )
Usman ( he has scored in 2nd T20, unfortunately )
Omair Yusuf
Irfan Niazi
Haseebullah
Jahandad
Haris
Abbas afridi
Shaheen ( there is not many bowler in the squad )
Sufyan
good 11.. infact i will go with haseebullah to open with Farhan as rizwan will again just spoil the whole powerplay.
 
Haseebullah and Jehandad are must, the latter comes from very humble background from tribal area played his cricket in Twin cities mainly with Stars ICC
 
have to pick from what we have right now.. because we dont have much options!
Omair should open with Rizwan. And yes rizwan as he's captain and he won't slot down. We both know that so theirs no point in even discussing it

Babar at 3 because he ain't moving. Usman at 4. Promote Niazi to 5 as Agha is useless in t20 and if Agha isn't being utilised as a bowler then their is no point.

Bring in jhandad Khan and give him agha's no.
The rest keep as is as theirs no other options.
 
Haseebullah has good striking abilities unlike Babar Azam
He's of the new gen crop of Batters who understand modern Cricket. Others include Saim and Harris. They just need to be shown the right direction and get groomed well.
 
Before Fakhar was dropped as an opener he hit a purple patch in t20.

He was a poor opener in 2017 and early 2018 but once the aus-Zimbabwe tri series happened, Fakhar smacked Australia into next week. Infact his 91 of 46 came against peak aussie bowling and put pakistan at no 1 rank.

Every other batter failed and he solo carried the team.

However after 2018 tri series pakistan didn't play any more t20's due to world cup 2019 prep. As soon as wc 2019 ended, Misbah decided to make.rizzu open as fakhar was injured for one game.

Then during the sri lanka t20 series, Misbah went out of his way to purposely lose that series 3-0, he was even questioned about it in the press and misbah got furious and said don't blame me, I didn't ask my right handed batters to bat left handed.

Then in that very series and other series he told fakhar he sucks and isn't good enough and must slot down to 4 to let rizzu and sharjeel open.

Then he dropped sharjeel and had rizzu and Babar open.

Misbah actually wanted rizwan as captain back them however rizzu at that time was a failure in all formats and failed the tri series as a no 4 so he couldn't have another azhar ali repeat situation so Babar was made captain.

I have been following their career trajectory and I know full well what occurred.

Fakhar was dropped for rizwan during his purple patch which is unforgivable
Absolutely wrong.

After Tri series final, Fakhar played 17 t20 innings, with highest score of 36.

Fakhar should get back in team Asap, but only to play on his best position, 3 or 4 where he has been more successful than opening.
 
Absolutely wrong.

After Tri series final, Fakhar played 17 t20 innings, with highest score of 36.

Fakhar should get back in team Asap, but only to play on his best position, 3 or 4 where he has been more successful than opening.
I don't mind him playing at either opening or no. 4 position but if no. 4 is comfortable for Fakhar now. He can play there cause we have modern openers in the shape of Saim and Harris
 
Omair should open with Rizwan. And yes rizwan as he's captain and he won't slot down. We both know that so theirs no point in even discussing it

Babar at 3 because he ain't moving. Usman at 4. Promote Niazi to 5 as Agha is useless in t20 and if Agha isn't being utilised as a bowler then their is no point.

Bring in jhandad Khan and give him agha's no.
The rest keep as is as theirs no other options.
yeah thats true!

Jahandad in place of Naseem Shah as he has become run machine these days.

Salman Agha is not even a T20 player dont know on what basis they have selected him in squad so i will replace him with omair.
 
yeah thats true!

Jahandad in place of Naseem Shah as he has become run machine these days.

Salman Agha is not even a T20 player dont know on what basis they have selected him in squad so i will replace him with omair.
Pakistan is in desperate need of spin all rounder after Malik and Hafeez that can fill the void. Shadab tried but he's more of a bowling all rounder than batter and lately his bowling fell off the face of the earth
 
Didn’t I hear a rumour the BFFs were sitting the last match out?
 
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