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The thing is Pakistani players are not involved.And they will not be involved in any series in India for a long time that Pakistani fans are worried what will happen when their players tour.

The aussies have no issues at all.The Aussie media hasnt even bothered to cover this.

Of course he was going to be mean to a school kid.

Yeah. A one on one talk with him made him conclude cowdrey is a very good man AND he will never do such things
 
Because it was a joint proposal to host in India and Pakistan. Period.

The civil war was not on the wane and government forces were not winning in the mid 90s, by then LTTE had a defecto state in the north, complete with its own currency I believe.
Yeah that's what I thought, as for the civil war SL was much more peaceful in mid to late 90's unlike the late 80's so you're half right IMO.
 
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The thing is Pakistani players are not involved.And they will not be involved in any series in India for a long time that Pakistani fans are worried what will happen when their players tour.

The aussies have no issues at all.The Aussie media hasnt even bothered to cover this.

The ECB isn't like BCCI, it has standards. When is the last time you saw ECB officials embroiled in dodgy dealings that Supreme Court has to appoint administrators to run it.

Just admit that bcci got it wrong and good of aussies for being mature about it. Why is that an insult?

Which bcci official is involved in dodgy dealings? The team owners of ipl are involved and not bcci officials.

The thing with sreenivasan is conflict of interest and not dodgy dealings?

If u want a classic example of dodgy deals ? It is ecb dealing with allen stanford isnt it?

Supreme court interfered when spot fixing was identified in ipl and in that investigation some team owners are involved in betting and not bcci officials. I hope u understand the difference before accusing bcci of dodgy deals
 
Helicopter landing at the sacred Lords ground was also an act of faith. Now that was real dodgy setup nipped in the bud
 
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The thing is Pakistani players are not involved.And they will not be involved in any series in India for a long time that Pakistani fans are worried what will happen when their players tour.

The aussies have no issues at all.The Aussie media hasnt even bothered to cover this.

Ecb acted in good faith.... you are trying to draw false equivalency here. Why is bcci being run by administrators?

Because they want new governance structure and not because they r involved in shady dealings.
 
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The thing is Pakistani players are not involved.And they will not be involved in any series in India for a long time that Pakistani fans are worried what will happen when their players tour.

The aussies have no issues at all.The Aussie media hasnt even bothered to cover this.

Helicopter landing at the sacred Lords ground was also an act of faith. Now that was real dodgy setup nipped in the bud

No no no when ecb does anything it is in good faith but even if bcci doesnt do anything also it is an outrage
 
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The thing is Pakistani players are not involved.And they will not be involved in any series in India for a long time that Pakistani fans are worried what will happen when their players tour.

The aussies have no issues at all.The Aussie media hasnt even bothered to cover this.

Because they want new governance structure and not because they r involved in shady dealings.
There is no need for bcci to do shady dealings because there is huge competition for anything that bcco does from sponsors, broadcasters.
 
Because they want new governance structure and not because they r involved in shady dealings.

One comes along and tells us that 1987 World Cup was held in India and now you saying there are no shady dealings with BCCI....

Come on man do you really believe that? You have IPL teams currently barred, Supreme court freezing BCCI accounts, being run by administrators.... it's not a sign of a clean organisation.
 
Helicopter landing at the sacred Lords ground was also an act of faith. Now that was real dodgy setup nipped in the bud

What's that got to do with the price of fish?...

Were there any unaccounted monies going through ecb system? Once again, ecb acted in good faith.
 
What's that got to do with the price of fish?...

Were there any unaccounted monies going through ecb system? Once again, ecb acted in good faith.

ECB going great length to please a shady billionaire was an act of good faith ??. Its not that he was clean before the T20 saga. ECB allowed an unprecedented landing of helicopter at the sacred of all grounds to please a con man. In your words ' NOT A SIGN OF CLEAN ORGANISATION'
 
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The thing is Pakistani players are not involved.And they will not be involved in any series in India for a long time that Pakistani fans are worried what will happen when their players tour.

The aussies have no issues at all.The Aussie media hasnt even bothered to cover this.

Ecb acted in good faith.... you are trying to draw false equivalency here. Why is bcci being run by administrators?

Bcci is like a private body and it doesn't depend on govt for funds and till now govt of india has not given a penny to bcci and govt has no authority on bcci.

Most of the grounds are built with bcci money and are purely under bcci control.

An unknown board named bihar cricket association has filed a pil to find out match fixing allegations in ipl.

The sc appointed a commitee to investigate ipl fixing and the haven't found single bcci official involved in it.

The commitee also recommended some new guidelines for bcci administration and they have given time for bcci to implement reforms failing which bcci will be disbanded and a comitee is appointed until bcci elects new body that follows sc recommendations
 
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The thing is Pakistani players are not involved.And they will not be involved in any series in India for a long time that Pakistani fans are worried what will happen when their players tour.

The aussies have no issues at all.The Aussie media hasnt even bothered to cover this.

One comes along and tells us that 1987 World Cup was held in India and now you saying there are no shady dealings with BCCI....

Come on man do you really believe that? You have IPL teams currently barred, Supreme court freezing BCCI accounts, being run by administrators.... it's not a sign of a clean organisation.

Please tell me the shady deals like i mentioned in case of ecb ?
 
ECB going great length to please a shady billionaire was an act of good faith ??. Its not that he was clean before the T20 saga. ECB allowed an unprecedented landing of helicopter at the sacred of all grounds to please a con man. In your words ' NOT A SIGN OF CLEAN ORGANISATION'

Do you understand what acting in good faith means?
Being duped by a conman is not akin to dodgy dealing.... learn to understand the difference.

Let me know if ECB is being investigated by any authority.
 
Ecb acted in good faith.... you are trying to draw false equivalency here. Why is bcci being run by administrators?
They were just hell bent on trying to make BCCI (& IPL) look puny, there was no good faith since there intentions were polluted even before the T20 happened & it wasn't until Stanford's conviction, in the US, that they decided to pull the plug on that (mis)adventure.

The BCCI is run by administrators because they're chosen to the various state associations, through their clout of money &/or political power. You're telling me this is wrong? I can agree that there is nepotism & corruption in the BCCI & state associations, that's why the SC is after them, but the premise that they should not govern is flawed.

Also I doubt you'll find the ECB or CA, any other sporting body to be scandal free. It may involve something innocuous, like the Armstrong coverup (or even Baseball) or $ like what we've seen in PSL or IPL but no sports body is 100% corruption free & no amount of hand wringing will make me believe that.
 
Do you understand what acting in good faith means?
Being duped by a conman is not akin to dodgy dealing.... learn to understand the difference.

Let me know if ECB is being investigated by any authority.
Wait, let me get this straight ~ a billionaire is pouring millions in an event that the ECB is showcasing, didn't they bother to check where the money was coming from or how $ were lined up, unlike their stars at that time? Was he some Nigerian prince who had an insane fortune, or something like that to finance such a useless event?
 
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The thing is Pakistani players are not involved.And they will not be involved in any series in India for a long time that Pakistani fans are worried what will happen when their players tour.

The aussies have no issues at all.The Aussie media hasnt even bothered to cover this.

One comes along and tells us that 1987 World Cup was held in India and now you saying there are no shady dealings with BCCI....

Come on man do you really believe that? You have IPL teams currently barred, Supreme court freezing BCCI accounts, being run by administrators.... it's not a sign of a clean organisation.

What has bcci got to do if owners or owners relatives and players got involved in betting or spotfixing?

Do u blame pcb for match fixing in pakistan cricket ?

Bcci is disbanded because they r not proven to be corrupt but because of its refusal to follow new guidelines proposed by sc appointed commitee.
Bcci didnt accept the reforms like age limit, term limit, voting rules so sc suspended present bcci and appointed a supervisors committee untill new bcci committee that accepts full reforms as proposed by sc.
 
Do you understand what acting in good faith means?
Being duped by a conman is not akin to dodgy dealing.... learn to understand the difference.

Let me know if ECB is being investigated by any authority.

He was a known crooked guy. And knowingly ECB entered into a deal. Now don't say that is not fishy. Good faith phrase was used by you and you should know the meaning. Luckily for ECB ,he was caught for other cases before their deal flourished.
 
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The thing is Pakistani players are not involved.And they will not be involved in any series in India for a long time that Pakistani fans are worried what will happen when their players tour.

The aussies have no issues at all.The Aussie media hasnt even bothered to cover this.

Do you understand what acting in good faith means?
Being duped by a conman is not akin to dodgy dealing.... learn to understand the difference.

Let me know if ECB is being investigated by any authority.

Show me where has any authority found bcci guilty?

After ipl investigation along with findings of investigation the committee has also proposed some guidelines to further improve bcci functionality and accountability. The bcci has not implemented the reforms which lead to the present Bcci administration being null or void. So sc appointed a committee again for the running of day to day operations of bcci untill new bcci is formed.

Now u tell where has the bcci is found guilty?
 
He was a known crooked guy. And knowingly ECB entered into a deal. Now don't say that is not fishy. Good faith phrase was used by you and you should know the meaning. Luckily for ECB ,he was caught for other cases before their deal flourished.

What a shocking lie. ECB would not have gone into bed knowingly with a fraudster. No he was not known for being dodgy that's just a complete and utter lie on your part. Americans caught him later due to the increased scrutiny due to the global financial crisis.... seriously man, don't just make stuff up.

He was a massive patron of everything in Antigua and he wanted to bring a competition together that pitted Caribbean and English teams. It seemed a great deal for all concerned.
 
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The thing is Pakistani players are not involved.And they will not be involved in any series in India for a long time that Pakistani fans are worried what will happen when their players tour.

The aussies have no issues at all.The Aussie media hasnt even bothered to cover this.

What a shocking lie. ECB would not have gone into bed knowingly with a fraudster. No he was not known for being dodgy that's just a complete and utter lie on your part. Americans caught him later due to the increased scrutiny due to the global financial crisis.... seriously man, don't just make stuff up.

He was a massive patron of everything in Antigua and he wanted to bring a competition together that pitted Caribbean and English teams. It seemed a great deal for all concerned.

He was known for his ponzi schemes long back in usa but u want to side step that fact for u r convenience and accuse others of dodgy deals.

Please tell me what r the bcci dodgy deals u know of?
 
He was known for his ponzi schemes long back in usa but u want to side step that fact for u r convenience and accuse others of dodgy deals.

Please tell me what r the bcci dodgy deals u know of?

Known where? If he was, the Americans would have got him. They are pretty serious on financial crime. Clearly you are just plucking stuff out of the air to false equivalency to the state of bcci and ecb past.

If the ECB was involved in any shady dealings, the americans would have come knocking and our media would have torn and chewd up ECB. They were foolish and got conned but they were not complicit in his crimes.... that's why I said acted in good faith.
 
Known where? If he was, the Americans would have got him. They are pretty serious on financial crime. Clearly you are just plucking stuff out of the air to false equivalency to the state of bcci and ecb past.

If the ECB was involved in any shady dealings, the americans would have come knocking and our media would have torn and chewd up ECB. They were foolish and got conned but they were not complicit in his crimes.... that's why I said acted in good faith.

"A leaked cable message from the U.S. Embassy in the Bahamas reported as early as 2006 that companies under Stanford's control were "rumored to engage in bribery, money laundering, and political manipulation". The U.S. Ambassador to the Bahamas at the time was reported to have "managed to stay out of any one-on-one photos with Stanford" during a charity breakfast event."

This is from wikipedia page on him, i don't think ambassadors of a country actively try to make sure not to be seen with him unless he has a history of shady deals and this 3 years prior to his arrest and 2 prior to any deal with ecb, that my friend does not look like a clean man anyway you look at him. By the way i am not blaming ecb, they clearly were conned by scamster but funny how you go to lengths to defend them but deny the same benefit of doubt to bcci who were in essentially same condition.
 
Let's try to stay on topic please. No need for mudslinging, personal comments or spamming the thread by continuously reposting the same comment.
 
Ecb acted in good faith.... you are trying to draw false equivalency here. Why is bcci being run by administrators?

It is because the BCCI,its members and the govt of India all have opposed the Supreme court reforms that are being shoved down a sporting bodies throat.The SC is involved in judicial overreach which even the govt is opposing.Now ofcourse the SC cant dismiss the GOI.Also BCCI was crippled by SC restrictions so Administrators were appointed for temporary smooth functioning of BCCI.
 
You are right. We should learn a thing or two from australian media and fans. If these were indian/pakistani players we would have burnt vehicles, destroyed public properties and protested in front of australian embassy.

Thanks to australian media for not making it a big issue otherwise their fans also would have remembered this issue after 30 years just like some of you are doing here by bringing gavaskar.

Dont know about Pakistani players or Pakistan.

But in my counntry i would have protested againist the BCCI as handling logistics is BCCI's job.
 
Pak fans are so worried about aus players treatment by bcci when aus players, board and even their media made nothing of that incident.

This is a classic example of pak fans having larger hearts isnt it?


Why would they, do you expect these players and Aussie media to bite the hand that feeds them through IPL contracts etc?
 
Why would they, do you expect these players and Aussie media to bite the hand that feeds them through IPL contracts etc?

Do you know what the reaction would be if Australia complained?

The whole country would be in uproar complaining that the team are a bunch of soft, up themselves, arrogant metrosexuals and that this disgrace would never have happened under Border/Waugh/Ponting where the team would have done better overseas because they weren't so soft.
 
Lol 3 pages over this, the Australians are hardly bothered. Can't wait till the series starts so we can actually talk about cricket instead of talking about something so irrelevant.
 
symonds was first racially abused in India by a certain player and the Indian crowd...

That's why symonds raised his two fingers to suggest that this this the second time... anyhow here is Alan borders take on it

Ends with this ...

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We thought we had basic proof that we were right, that there’d been a slur, and the ICC should have got more involved. I believe ‘Symo’, who said he heard it, as well as Hayden, Clarke and Ricky, who also heard it, and they’re not inclined to make things up. In Harbhajan’s defence, I suppose there’s a chance they actually misheard what he said. Ultimately, the commercial realities and the dollars involved overran everything.
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I'm guessing the Aussie's have watched enough Bollywood films to know what happens with visitor's luggage if they're not watching closely.
 
symonds was first racially abused in India by a certain player and the Indian crowd...

That's why symonds raised his two fingers to suggest that this this the second time... anyhow here is Alan borders take on it

Ends with this ...

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We thought we had basic proof that we were right, that there’d been a slur, and the ICC should have got more involved. I believe ‘Symo’, who said he heard it, as well as Hayden, Clarke and Ricky, who also heard it, and they’re not inclined to make things up. In Harbhajan’s defence, I suppose there’s a chance they actually misheard what he said. Ultimately, the commercial realities and the dollars involved overran everything.
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So an Australian says something and thats the truth?LOL.

A very senior and respected judge from NZ conducted the hearing,unless ofcourse you are saying that it was all bought.

Secondly he was called "bandar/Monkey" by crowds in Baroda.Now i hardly expect any Subcontinent crowd to know that Monkey is ofensive in Australia.Calling someone monkey isnt exactly considered racial abuse in subcontinent.Same like Nasser Hussain calling Indian fielders Donkey was misconstrued in India.
 
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So what about Navdeep Saini? Bowled well in a game in a which bowlers from both teams were getting tonked.
 
Do you know what the reaction would be if Australia complained?

The whole country would be in uproar complaining that the team are a bunch of soft, up themselves, arrogant metrosexuals and that this disgrace would never have happened under Border/Waugh/Ponting where the team would have done better overseas because they weren't so soft.


That still does not absolve world's 'richest board' of not having decent staff and a truck that does not resemle trash pickup trucks from India, in helping 'their' guests!
 
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