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Away record of all teams in South Africa, New Zealand and Australia in the past 6 years

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Pakistan has lost 11 out of 11 test matches in sa, nz and australia in the last 6 years, even sl and wi have managed a few draws. I thought India's 8-0 was bad but this is next level stuff, 5th whitewash in last 6 years in test cricket, 2nd consecutive whitewash in south africa, Pakistan test team is at an all time low
 
Shandarchowka said:
Why exclude England from SENA? Just because it shows Pakistan in a better light? :genius
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Who talked about SENA? I didn't exclude england because I never intended to include it in the first place, the point was to show the poor run of pakistan in 3 different countries over an extended period of time where they have failed to even draw a test, including England won't show pak in better light, instead it will show England in poor light
 
TakeshiKovacs said:
Who talked about SENA? I didn't exclude england because I never intended to include it in the first place, the point was to show the poor run of pakistan in 3 different countries over an extended period of time where they have failed to even draw a test, including England won't show pak in better light, instead it will show England in poor light
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Ok, got it.
 
Pakistan lost first test series in nz since 1984 and at home after 59 years. There is every reason Pakistan is at number 7
 
TakeshiKovacs said:
Who talked about SENA? I didn't exclude england because I never intended to include it in the first place, the point was to show the poor run of pakistan in 3 different countries over an extended period of time where they have failed to even draw a test, including England won't show pak in better light, instead it will show England in poor light
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Pakistan doing well in England but countries like India, Australia failing to do so says something, doesn't it? We've always competed well against the swinging ball. Even in New Zealand for that matter. Australia and South Africa are our Achilles' heel because of the bounce. This is a traditional trouble for Pakistan. Hopefully Mickey and team can work on that before we tour to Australia this year.
 
The only disappointment have been Indian team in SA and English this year.. The other results were expected however this was the best chance for India to win series in these two countries but we squandered it..

Pakistan have been atrocious in SA, Australia and NZ for long time it's nothing new.. India generally compete well in Australia barring the 4-0 series.
 
Shandarchowka said:
Congrats Nikhil. Your best era has trumped our worst era by a margin of .143 :rabada2
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Include our worst era which included the 8-0 whitewash in 2011 . In fact, after 2011 World Cup, in SENA countries, India - 0.227 , PAK - 0.214 . Even at our worst we are marginally better :))) :srini
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Include our worst era which included the 8-0 whitewash in 2011 . In fact, after 2011 World Cup, in SENA countries, India - 0.227 , PAK - 0.214 . Even at our worst we are marginally better :))) :srini
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This is your best era and you may have to wait another 20 years again to reach this point. I don't see India winning in Australia next time around once their batting leaders are back. India can't also win against England, their bogey team.
 
Shandarchowka said:
This is your best era and you may have to wait another 20 years again to reach this point. I don't see India winning in Australia next time around once their batting leaders are back. India can't also win against England, their bogey team.
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If your going by series wins, even in your greatest era , PAK could not win in Australia so what is your point? Our best era was mid 2002 to mid 2011 when our record in SENA is actually impressive.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
If your going by series wins, even in your greatest era , PAK could not win in Australia so what is your point? Our best era was mid 2002 to mid 2011 when our record in SENA is actually impressive.
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But we drew with the greatest possible West Indies team in West Indies. That is an achievement bigger than many series triumphs.
 
Shandarchowka said:
This is your best era and you may have to wait another 20 years again to reach this point. I don't see India winning in Australia next time around once their batting leaders are back. India can't also win against England, their bogey team.
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This in not our best era
 
The match that pak has won had players missing. No Richards no Marshall. Walsh and Ambrose beginning careers.
 
It will be interesting to see what the PCB will say about the recent series loss. Cause without a doubt, this record make for embarrassing readings.
 
Pakistan's test record against NZ SA and Aus in the last 6 years is no better than a minnow

Four tours four whitewashes. If this doesn't justify minnow status than I don't know what will. Fans need to start accepting how far we have fallen as a Cricketing nation and lower their expectations until hopefully a new generation of players come through in the next decade or so.
 
We've always been an average team... We just had superstars in the past.
 
Time to disbanded cricket completely and focus on the other sports as clearly we are not good enough .what do you say op?
 
We have always struggled in South Africa and Australia. The real disappointment was the defeat in NZ where usually do well.

Our batting has always been poor but the real worry was our lack of skill with the new ball . We didn't often do well with the new ball on these tours.
 
Which fans are left with any expectations anymore? Or does the OP want posters here to observe worldwide maatam, lead by [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]?

I understand the rage and frustration for the loss against New Zealand. That was well-deserved. But if you didn't expect a 3-0 in South Africa, you clearly are much more patriotic than you think you are.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Which fans are left with any expectations anymore? Or does the OP want posters here to observe worldwide maatam, lead by [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]?

I understand the rage and frustration for the loss against New Zealand. That was well-deserved. But if you didn't expect a 3-0 in South Africa, you clearly are much more patriotic than you think you are.
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The frustrating thing is that we didn't compete and we knew that some players aren't in the team on merit. Yet they are still picked.

I'll be honest I don't think there is a 11 in Pakistan who can win a test series in SA. But I refuse to believe there isn't an 11 in Pakistan who can compete better than this.
 
Shandarchowka said:
This is your best era and you may have to wait another 20 years again to reach this point. I don't see India winning in Australia next time around once their batting leaders are back. India can't also win against England, their bogey team.
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This is definitely not the best era. A team that has washed up Vijay, instagram boy KL Rahul is definitely not the best era. India is just better than others. That's it.
 
Going forward pakistan should be demoted to 2 test series away to NZ, SA and Aus going forward until they improve or become competative.
 
hadi123 said:
11 losses in 11 games. Embarrasing.
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Pakistan need to learn to go big when they have good foundation. That will result in win or at least a draw. I often see some batsmen scoring runs when match is pretty much lost. They don't contribute anything when match is in balance.

Pakistani bowling is not great, but batting can still put runs to draw some tests. And then if bowling clicks then you get to win as well if batsmen are putting some runs.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Going forward pakistan should be demoted to 2 test series away to NZ, SA and Aus going forward until they improve or become competative.
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Nah, only BD/Zim should play 2 tests. Every other team should play 3 tests. Even WI has shown willingness to fight in recent years.
 
Buffet said:
Nah, only BD/Zim should play 2 tests. Every other team should play 3 tests. Even WI has shown willingness to fight in recent years.
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BD and Pak are 0-15 LOL. Do you think a combined BD/Pak team would be more competitive?
 
BDfanforever said:
BD and Pak are 0-15 LOL. Do you think a combined BD/Pak team would be more competitive?
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It will be more competitive for sure with BD contributing some batsmen. How competitive? I am not sure about that.

BD and Pakistan scoreline may look similar, but BD didn't fight at all in the last tour of SA. All matches were too one sided. I think BD needs more side A tours to adjust to conditions, but more importantly have some pacers. BD problem is not having any pacer.

Pakistani bowling is not that great, but they can pick up wickets. BD has some batsmen who can add value so combine team will surely play better.
 
Zero draws is telling considering Pak has Azhar now and had Misyou in the last 6 years.
 
Buffet said:
It will be more competitive for sure with BD contributing some batsmen. How competitive? I am not sure about that.

BD and Pakistan scoreline may look similar, but BD didn't fight at all in the last tour of SA. All matches were too one sided. I think BD needs more side A tours to adjust to conditions, but more importantly have some pacers. BD problem is not having any pacer.

Pakistani bowling is not that great, but they can pick up wickets. BD has some batsmen who can add value so combine team will surely play better.
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Yeah you are right.

I also think combined Pak/BD team is the only team that can challenge India in India.
 
sweep_shot said:
Now that South Africa have gotten weaker, I expect more teams to go there and get wins.

New Zealand and Australia should still be tough places for visiting teams.
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They have a top class bowling attack in Rabada, Olivier, Lungi and Jensen. If you add Nortje to this then it'll look more deadly.

Batting side - Elgar, Peterson and Bavuma look decent. Need to find one more reliable batsman. I won't be surprised to see a lot of other teams folding against this attack. Marco Jensen is a potential superstar.
 
Since 1 January 2015, Pakistan have lost all of their 12 test matches played in Australia, Newzealand and South Africa.
In the same period, India won 6 and lost 6 in 16 matches giving them a win/loss ratio of 1.
Even Bangladesh manage to win one match and losing 6, while Srilanka is the second best asian traveling team in these countries, as they managed to win 2 matches out of 14 and losing 11.
Extremely shameful record for Pakistan in these countries, where even team like Bangladesh managed to a win test match but Pakistan got whitewashed in every series they played since 2015.
 
Really poor away record for Pakistan. Not even a single draw in AUS, NZ, and SA.

Now after the Bangladesh win against NZ, Pak's record feels more embarrassing.
 
India in Tests in South Africa:

Played 22
Won 4
Lost 11
Drawn 7

Pakistan in Tests in South Africa:

Played 15
Won 2
Lost 12
Drawn 1
 
sweep_shot said:
Now that South Africa have gotten weaker, I expect more teams to go there and get wins.

New Zealand and Australia should still be tough places for visiting teams.
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Their batting has weakened but their bowling is still top class. Winning in SA will still remain extremely difficult.

Pakistan need to find multiple great batsmen to compete going forward in these tough conditions. They don't have a single player averaging in the 50's. Babar may get there but he is not there yet and their openers + 3rd spot have been far too unreliable.

I do think Pakistan is in a better spot to compete going forward. Shaheen is a bit more experienced now, they have some young good pacers upcoming instead of mediocrity like Wahab/Rahat/Imran Khan/Musa/Abbas of the past or a declined Amir. Before recently, Pakistan mostly relied upon Yasir to almost single handedly win them matches and obviously, that is rarely ever going to happen save for that one Test in 2016 vs England.

I think the batsmen Pakistan have upcoming nowadays as well are more adept to playing pacers whereas most of the batsmen we've seen in the 2000's have struggled with that but bashed spinners.
 
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TakeshiKovacs said:
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Pakistan has lost 11 out of 11 test matches in sa, nz and australia in the last 6 years, even sl and wi have managed a few draws. I thought India's 8-0 was bad but this is next level stuff, 5th whitewash in last 6 years in test cricket, 2nd consecutive whitewash in south africa, Pakistan test team is at an all time low
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Thank you Misbah
 
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