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Babar Azam equals the record for being the fastest (21 innings) to 1000 ODI runs [update #81]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Babar equals the record! He joins V Richards, K Pietersen, J Trott and Q de Kock as the fastest batsmen (21 inns) to 1000 ODI runs! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AUSvPAK?src=hash">#AUSvPAK</a></p>— PakPassion.net (@PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/PakPassion/status/821951189940060160">January 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Congrats to Babar, but I won't be surprised to see this record be broken soon.

It's gotten so easy to average 50 in ODI's.

Kohli and Amla have been breaking the fastest to x runs for years now.

Hell wasn't Azhar a shoe in to beat the fastest 1,000 runs a while back?
 
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Well done!

He's had a fantastic start to his career.

There's a reason why he's been trumpeted as the best batting prospect in Pakistan since 15-16 years of age.
 
Well done to him. Hope he continues to improve. Pakistan desperately needs a good batsmen who can come at number 3
 
Wow great list to be part of.

I hope he can go on and have a good career...
 
But should've gotten to his 100, after having two dropped catches while batting, and probably the weakest Australian attack (no Starc)
 
Best batting prospect since Yousaf Youhana in the late 90's.
 
But should've gotten to his 100, after having two dropped catches while batting, and probably the weakest Australian attack (no Starc)

Playing for the team rather than his hundred, had to go after the bowling with Umar struggling at the other end.
 
Playing for the team rather than his hundred, had to go after the bowling with Umar struggling at the other end.

I guess I mean, he should've upped the scoring rate, while getting to his 100.. however still young, still has mistakes in his batting, but I guess he's got that hoodoo of his back of not scoring a 50 in Australia.. Surely carried the team for the whole innings with this knock today.. he's here to stay
 
But should've gotten to his 100, after having two dropped catches while batting, and probably the weakest Australian attack (no Starc)

Hazlewood and Cummins in the weakest Australian attack?

I guess you have not been watching a lot of cricket recently, have a look at the attacks they played against India last year and more recently in South Africa.

It's not a great bowling attack but still had to play Hazlewood against the new ball, most of Cummins spell.
 
Hazlewood and Cummins in the weakest Australian attack?

I guess you have not been watching a lot of cricket recently, have a look at the attacks they played against India last year and more recently in South Africa.

It's not a great bowling attack but still had to play Hazlewood against the new ball, most of Cummins spell.

Check the support staff they have as a bowling unit all newbies
 
Doesn't count as it was a weak bowling attack with no Johnson and Starc. Also, the pitch was flat and a bowlers graveyard.

(I am just applying the same criteria PP-ers use for Indian batsmen)
 
Congrats to Babar, but I won't be surprised to see this record be broken soon.

It's gotten so easy to average 50 in ODI's.

Kohli and Amla have been breaking the fastest to x runs for years now.

Hell wasn't Azhar a shoe in to beat the fastest 1,000 runs a while back?

Only a handful of great players are averaging 50+ over 100+ matches. Hope Babar joins this elite company too.
 
Only a handful of great players are averaging 50+ over 100+ matches. Hope Babar joins this elite company too.

True, just because you have 4 current bastmen Amla, ABD, Kohli and Dhoni with 50+ avgs, its no easy feat! (Ignoring Rayadu , a man who can't be a regular in India XI and i think most of his runs are against Zim )

In the current lot if you actually look the next person is Williamson whose avgs drops to 46.81!!
There is a significant gap between the 50+ and the rest!!
 
True, just because you have 4 current bastmen Amla, ABD, Kohli and Dhoni with 50+ avgs, its no easy feat! (Ignoring Rayadu , a man who can't be a regular in India XI and i think most of his runs are against Zim )

In the current lot if you actually look the next person is Williamson whose avgs drops to 46.81!!
There is a significant gap between the 50+ and the rest!!

Yeah, and others like Hales, Roy, Smith, de Kock, Rohit, Morgan, Faf all average below 45.
 
Thought he played a mediocre knock today.

I watched only half of it, and upto that point I felt like it was a very mediocre innings. Don't really know what happened after he crossed 40.

One thing I do know is that if someone like a Hafeez or Azhar would have scored a 50 at at SR of 60 PP'ers would have slayed them, but just because it is Babar we don't see any threads on his SR.
 
Last 5 years stats in ODI

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[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Ave [/td][td]SR [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AB de Villiers (SA) [/td][td]2012-2016 [/td][td]84 [/td][td]4111 [/td][td]66.3 [/td][td]110.8 [/td][td]13 [/td][td]21 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]V Kohli (INDIA) [/td][td]2012-2017 [/td][td]104 [/td][td]4840 [/td][td]57.61 [/td][td]95.38 [/td][td]19 [/td][td]20 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KC Sangakkara (SL) [/td][td]2012-2015 [/td][td]95 [/td][td]4458 [/td][td]55.72 [/td][td]88.66 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]26 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]LRPL Taylor (NZ) [/td][td]2012-2016 [/td][td]66 [/td][td]2641 [/td][td]52.82 [/td][td]82.4 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]12 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Babar Azam (PAK) [/td][td]2015-2017 [/td][td]21 [/td][td]1037 [/td][td]51.85 [/td][td]90.8 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IJL Trott (ENG) [/td][td]2012-2013 [/td][td]28 [/td][td]1021 [/td][td]51.05 [/td][td]74.63 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MS Dhoni (INDIA) [/td][td]2012-2017 [/td][td]89 [/td][td]2753 [/td][td]50.98 [/td][td]90.32 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]18 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AT Rayudu (INDIA) [/td][td]2013-2016 [/td][td]34 [/td][td]1055 [/td][td]50.23 [/td][td]76.28 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]6 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SPD Smith (AUS) [/td][td]2012-2017 [/td][td]64 [/td][td]2705 [/td][td]50.09 [/td][td]87.51 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]16 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]HM Amla (SA) [/td][td]2012-2016 [/td][td]86 [/td][td]3814 [/td][td]48.27 [/td][td]87.61 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]14 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]TM Dilshan (SL) [/td][td]2012-2016 [/td][td]108 [/td][td]4522 [/td][td]48.1 [/td][td]85.4 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]23 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KS Williamson (NZ) [/td][td]2012-2016 [/td][td]86 [/td][td]3654 [/td][td]48.07 [/td][td]84.58 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]27 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]EC Joyce (IRE) [/td][td]2012-2016 [/td][td]35 [/td][td]1333 [/td][td]47.6 [/td][td]75.78 [/td][td]4 [/td][td]7 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JE Root (ENG) [/td][td]2013-2017 [/td][td]80 [/td][td]3124 [/td][td]46.62 [/td][td]85.44 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]18 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RG Sharma (INDIA) [/td][td]2012-2016 [/td][td]81 [/td][td]3321 [/td][td]46.12 [/td][td]87.62 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]18 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]IR Bell (ENG) [/td][td]2012-2015 [/td][td]53 [/td][td]2182 [/td][td]45.45 [/td][td]83.66 [/td][td]3 [/td][td]16 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DA Warner (AUS) [/td][td]2012-2017 [/td][td]81 [/td][td]3427 [/td][td]45.09 [/td][td]96.31 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]14 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]S Dhawan (INDIA) [/td][td]2013-2017 [/td][td]71 [/td][td]3021 [/td][td]45.08 [/td][td]91.21 [/td][td]9 [/td][td]16 [/td][/tr]
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I watched only half of it, and upto that point I felt like it was a very mediocre innings. Don't really know what happened after he crossed 40.

One thing I do know is that if someone like a Hafeez or Azhar would have scored a 50 at at SR of 60 PP'ers would have slayed them, but just because it is Babar we don't see any threads on his SR.

He's what? 22-23? Playing his first ODIs in Australia and he's just matched the likes of Viv and de Kock. A SR of 85 isn't bad either from your highest run scorer.
 
He's what? 22-23? Playing his first ODIs in Australia and he's just matched the likes of Viv and de Kock. A SR of 85 isn't bad either from your highest run scorer.

Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize a batsman's age and potential was listed as a stat next to his runs and balls faced. My bad.

Perhaps we should play 16 year olds then and let them score 10(30) and let them off the hook because of their age.

Babar played majority of his innings within the powerplays and was nearly single-handedly responsible for us scoring 7 runs in 5 overs (from over 6-11).

Garbage innings if there ever was one, chasing his own personal milestone ahead of team objectives.
 
Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize a batsman's age and potential was listed as a stat next to his runs and balls faced. My bad.

Perhaps we should play 16 year olds then and let them score 10(30) and let them off the hook because of their age.

Babar played majority of his innings within the powerplays and was nearly single-handedly responsible for us scoring 7 runs in 5 overs (from over 6-11).

Garbage innings if there ever was one, chasing his own personal milestone ahead of team objectives.

Well yes, a batsman's age and potential does come into consideration. It is the same reason why someone likes Stokes still has a career after getting a bunch of ducks and why Junaid Khan has made a comeback and Umar Gul hasn't.

He was also singlehandedly responsible for getting us to 260. Without him, things would have been really ugly. If an 80 scored at a SR of 85 is a garbage innings, you haven't been watching Pakistan bat recently.

Then again, you're the same guy who recently said de Villiers and Afridi are one and the same.
 
I watched only half of it, and upto that point I felt like it was a very mediocre innings. Don't really know what happened after he crossed 40.

One thing I do know is that if someone like a Hafeez or Azhar would have scored a 50 at at SR of 60 PP'ers would have slayed them, but just because it is Babar we don't see any threads on his SR.

Struggled very much at the start but started becoming fluent towards the end.

I like him as a batsman but his knock was not the ideal one on this track. You can't win ODIs in Australia with just 260 on the board. Australian batsmen are extremely good at chasing even 300+ scores in their home. Only Sharjeel and Malik (however way he made those runs) played good knocks today. Babar definitely has great potential but I'm not sure if Azhar or Misbah would've gone scot free had they played an 84 off 100 balls knock on a good batting track.
 
Struggled very much at the start but started becoming fluent towards the end.

I like him as a batsman but his knock was not the ideal one on this track. You can't win ODIs in Australia with just 260 on the board. Australian batsmen are extremely good at chasing even 300+ scores in their home. Only Sharjeel and Malik (however way he made those runs) played good knocks today. Babar definitely has great potential but I'm not sure if Azhar or Misbah would've gone scot free had they played an 84 off 100 balls knock on a good batting track.

Yes, because like I said, Azhar and Misbah are 10-20 years older than Babar and have a lot of experience behind them compared to Babar who is just starting out.

Don't you think it is more logical to levy that criticism towards Umar Akmal, Imad Wasim and Mohammad Rizwan who were striking it at a SR of 75 at the death? Instead of Babar who was doing his job by going at around 80-85 in the middle overs.
 
Struggled very much at the start but started becoming fluent towards the end.

I like him as a batsman but his knock was not the ideal one on this track. You can't win ODIs in Australia with just 260 on the board. Australian batsmen are extremely good at chasing even 300+ scores in their home. Only Sharjeel and Malik (however way he made those runs) played good knocks today. Babar definitely has great potential but I'm not sure if Azhar or Misbah would've gone scot free had they played an 84 off 100 balls knock on a good batting track.

Struggling with bounce is not one person's issue, that's team culture, which is getting worse with every season we play in UAE...Last WC, Pakistanis struggle against bounce more than many minnows. If this situation does not change, we will not see a stroke maker ,a good player of seaming bowling from Pakistan...Pakistanis skills against seam/fast bowling has regressed a lot since we moved to UAE, this is an alarming situation, its not about talent, you are not going to develop those skills(playing fast bowlers and fast bowlers themselves) in desert :facepalm:
 
Yes, because like I said, Azhar and Misbah are 10-20 years older than Babar and have a lot of experience behind them compared to Babar who is just starting out.

Don't you think it is more logical to levy that criticism towards Umar Akmal, Imad Wasim and Mohammad Rizwan who were striking it at a SR of 75 at the death? Instead of Babar who was doing his job by going at around 80-85 in the middle overs.

It's not about being a senior or junior. It's about how it affects the team because at the end of the day, the team is above everything else.

It matters because Babar is the best batsman in the Pak team and not Umar or Imad or Rizwan. It matters because Babar bats at no.3 and not Umar or Imad or Rizwan. Anyway no.3 is the most important position in an ODI team where you can set the tempo of an innings and thought Babar should have played at a better tempo today, especially when the ones coming below him are duds..
 
Congrats to him but he's got lots of work to do. What he did to Sharjeel was done to him by his cousin. I wonder why our batsmen have an issue finding gaps and getting singles or doubles. He got in and never got going and then threw it away. A lot to learn and hopefully he does quickly.
 
Congrats! He has lots of potential if he keeps working hard and stays focused he'll go places. Very talented.
 
It's not about being a senior or junior. It's about how it affects the team because at the end of the day, the team is above everything else.

It matters because Babar is the best batsman in the Pak team and not Umar or Imad or Rizwan. It matters because Babar bats at no.3 and not Umar or Imad or Rizwan. Anyway no.3 is the most important position in an ODI team where you can set the tempo of an innings and thought Babar should have played at a better tempo today, especially when the ones coming below him are duds..

He played a good innings for a 22 year old, batting at #3, for the first time at Perth. Just because he is the best batsman in the team doesn't mean that he should be scoring centuries at a SR of 100+ in all situations. The reason we didn't get to 300 today was down to the lower order, not Babar who batted quite well.
 
He played a good innings for a 22 year old, batting at #3, for the first time at Perth. Just because he is the best batsman in the team doesn't mean that he should be scoring centuries at a SR of 100+ in all situations. The reason we didn't get to 300 today was down to the lower order, not Babar who batted quite well.

Like I said, it's about the team and not a 22 year old or a 38 year old.
 
Even De Kock failed miserably in the last WC in Australia. Babar has all the ingredients to be a world class batsman. I hope he fulfills he potential.
 
Babar looks a special talent i just hope he can carry this on and doesn't fade away like so many of our young starlets have over the last 15 years.
 
Congrats on the achievement, a fine talent should be our long term number 3 in all formats
 
He's got to make a few adjustments to get on top of the bounce, the reason why for his mistimed shots. Time well spent out there though.
 
He's got to make a few adjustments to get on top of the bounce, the reason why for his mistimed shots. Time well spent out there though.

Sole architect of us scoring 7 runs in 5 overs during the PP. Successfully managed to bring our run rate from 9 to 5.

Indeed time well spent
 
It's not about being a senior or junior. It's about how it affects the team because at the end of the day, the team is above everything else.

It matters because Babar is the best batsman in the Pak team and not Umar or Imad or Rizwan. It matters because Babar bats at no.3 and not Umar or Imad or Rizwan. Anyway no.3 is the most important position in an ODI team where you can set the tempo of an innings and thought Babar should have played at a better tempo today, especially when the ones coming below him are duds..

You can't play at a better tempo when you aren't fully comfortable.
 
Struggled very much at the start but started becoming fluent towards the end.

I like him as a batsman but his knock was not the ideal one on this track. You can't win ODIs in Australia with just 260 on the board. Australian batsmen are extremely good at chasing even 300+ scores in their home. Only Sharjeel and Malik (however way he made those runs) played good knocks today. Babar definitely has great potential but I'm not sure if Azhar or Misbah would've gone scot free had they played an 84 off 100 balls knock on a good batting track.

160 after 30 overs should have never translated into a 260ish total.

300 was the bare minimum.

The problem is that now with Hafeez at the top and the likes of Sarfraz out of the team, the pressure on Babar to play a long knock has increased. He has to take more responsibility. He just wasn't middling the ball for the first few overs while he was out there but he wasn't playing defensive shots all the time. He was poor at the start but improved as the innings wore on.

It was imperative that the other batsmen try to play at a good clip to ensure he didn't have to throw his wicket away as he could have played through the innings and finished well as he can hit boundaries once set. However, the innings fell apart as the momentum was ruined when Umar came in.

It was a decent knock overall, not one of his best but did OK, even if it only served to slow down talk of him being a minnow-basher. ;-)
 
Sole architect of us scoring 7 runs in 5 overs during the PP. Successfully managed to bring our run rate from 9 to 5.

Indeed time well spent

Australia's run-rate was under 4 after 15 overs. That quiet period didn't hurt us as much as the last 20 overs did.
 
Sole architect of us scoring 7 runs in 5 overs during the PP. Successfully managed to bring our run rate from 9 to 5.

Indeed time well spent

bro calm down the bounce took a bit of getting used to, and he did play a bit for the record but a run a ball 30 was not what was required at that point.
he was the mainstay and he scored better than a run a ball when he was with akmal and malik.
akmal making 15 off 30 was where things starred to go wrong because we were right on top then. u can take that time when u r going to be the mainstay but not when u come in in the 32nd over.
like i say it wasnt ideal but it wasnt a total disaster.
the other problem was he could not take some of the singles he normally would with sharjeel
 
Australia's run-rate was under 4 after 15 overs. That quiet period didn't hurt us as much as the last 20 overs did.

We lost the game in the middle overs when Hafeez let Australia milk singles down the ground. He needed to cut those off and force them square. Don't know what happened, he fell asleep or something.
 
Australia's run-rate was under 4 after 15 overs. That quiet period didn't hurt us as much as the last 20 overs did.

This is why the quiet period was so bad for us, since we have an inability to hit out in the last 20. I'm not asking to keep blazing away at 9 runs per over, but scoring 7 runs in 5 power play overs is just pathetic and reflects off the selfish nature of Babar who is just another personal milestone chaser.
 
We lost the game in the middle overs when Hafeez let Australia milk singles down the ground. He needed to cut those off and force them square. Don't know what happened, he fell asleep or something.

I think Smith and Handscomb played the spinners much better than the other batsmen have, though. There wasn't much turn on offer and I saw them come down the pitch a couple of times to loft the ball over the fielders' heads. Didn't watch a lot of the middle overs closely though so you might have a point.

Either way, I don't think this was a 260 pitch.
 
I think Smith and Handscomb played the spinners much better than the other batsmen have, though. There wasn't much turn on offer and I saw them come down the pitch a couple of times to loft the ball over the fielders' heads. Didn't watch a lot of the middle overs closely though so you might have a point.

Either way, I don't think this was a 260 pitch.

They'd have difficulty coming down to Imad. Even if they do, you'd rather they take risks playing square or go aerial. They executed their plans but it wasn't no genius batting that couldn't be countered. We fell asleep and let the game slide when it was obvious where majority of their runs were coming from.
 
Babar Azam countdown to 2000 ODI runs

Fastest to 2000 runs (in terms of innings):

40 - Hashim Amla
45 - Zaheer Abbas, Kevin Pietersen
47 - Jonathan Trott
48 - Viv Richards, Shikhar Dhawan
49 - Gordon Greenidge
50 - Gary Kirsten

Babar needs 442 more runs in 7 innings to beat Amla. Can he beat/equal the record?
 
Well if he can get a couple of hundreds more in this series then he may beat Amla. This series is his best opportunity to capitalize
 
Needs 60+ runs in his next seven innings, on average. A pretty stiff climb but he'll run # pretty close.

Babar is a superb batsman. Will go down as a legend, InshAllah.
 
Unlikely to break Amla's record but he can easily do it in the next 11 innings to be #2 on that list.
 
The way he is playing and the way sl and our openers are playing he might break it this series in itself with 3 more centuries.
 
62.2 runs per match in 5 innings to beat Amla. Or 52 runs per match in 6 innings to equal him. Getting tougher.
 
62.2 runs per match in 5 innings to beat Amla. Or 52 runs per match in 6 innings to equal him. Getting tougher.

Should comfortably end up as the second quickest though, and more importantly, quicker than Kohli.
 
Should comfortably end up as the second quickest though, and more importantly, quicker than Kohli.

Why compare him with Kohli? Everyone knows you do not regard Kohli even as a good batsman, "he is a choker", etc? Or you actually believe inside that Kohli is the batsman who raises bars so high for other batsmen that every one should to be compared with Kohli in order to be considered as a great batsman?
 
Why compare him with Kohli? Everyone knows you do not regard Kohli even as a good batsman, "he is a choker", etc? Or you actually believe inside that Kohli is the batsman who raises bars so high for other batsmen that every one should to be compared with Kohli in order to be considered as a great batsman?

You're mistaking me for someone else. Don't do that.
 
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Kohli as a batsman is far ahead of Babaar , Babaar needs to win games on his own to move to next level. He has the potential , but needs to make that potential into use.
 
No Sir, you are the one. Care to review your own posts in other threads as well.

Kohli is a great batsman in my eyes, and a future ATG in the ODI format. He has his flaws, like choking and being a bunny against the moving ball but credit where its due, he's superb at what he does.

Babar will match him.
 
Kohli is a great batsman in my eyes, and a future ATG in the ODI format. He has his flaws, like choking and being a bunny against the moving ball but credit where its due, he's superb at what he does.

Babar will match him.

You must watch Amla's career to know the meaning of choking....Virat has played many pressure games...one of those is 183 against Pakistan if you remember....
 
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