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Babar Azam - Lowest dot-ball percentage in T20Is

Pandey ahead of Kohli and people want him kicked out of the team.
 
No other batsman from Pak in the top ten. Great going lads.
 
If he develops another gear, he can go ahead to compete with the likes of the best, like Kohli.

Not become Kohli, but work towards his stature/skills.

Not there yet, and no guarantees he'll develop an impact game. Batting culture in Pak and mindset just isn't there yet.
 
He needs to have Mahela Jayawardene as an example. They are similar as they are touch players but Mahela built up his power game, especially hitting down the ground
 
He is tuk tuk... He takes too long to get started... People being consistently proven wrong.
 
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Babar's T20 average is now 53.15 with strike rate 128.Brilliant!
 
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barah_admi said:
He is tuk tuk... He takes too long to get started... People being consistently proven wrong.
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How is he tuk tuk when he has the lowest do ball percentage? Just bc he can't hit doesn't he mean he is tuk tuk. I suggest you stop watching cricket.not your cup of tea.
 
DeadBall said:
Pandey ahead of Kohli and people want him kicked out of the team.
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Pandey scores singles from 15th-20th over. Just shows how misleading that stat is.

Just shows how overrated this rotating strike is if a player cannot hit big when needed.

Guys like Warner, Maxwell, Rohit might play dot balls, but they cover those dot balls quickly by hitting big at will.

No one will pick Manish Pandey over someone like Rohit just because Pandey takes singles :))
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
He needs to have Mahela Jayawardene as an example. They are similar as they are touch players but Mahela built up his power game, especially hitting down the ground
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Mahela is a different player. He preferred spin while Babar prefers pace. And he also was more unconventional in his shot selection.

Shehzad is more like a worse version of Mahela.
 
DeadBall said:
Pandey ahead of Kohli and people want him kicked out of the team.
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Kohli makes up those additional dot balls by hitting boundaries towards the end, whereas as Pandey struggles to clear 30 yard circle. Yes I don’t want to see him in our T20.
 
troodon said:
Pandey scores singles from 15th-20th over. Just shows how misleading that stat is.

Just shows how overrated this rotating strike is if a player cannot hit big when needed.

Guys like Warner, Maxwell, Rohit might play dot balls, but they cover those dot balls quickly by hitting big at will.

No one will pick Manish Pandey over someone like Rohit just because Pandey takes singles :))
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Spot on.
 
This is just part of the equation. Dot ball percentage, runs scored, match awareness and Strike rate should be considered together.

Some like Like Manish Pandey scores few runs typically at run a ball. He fails in the SR and the runs scored category but is good in the dot ball percentage. He is average in match awareness

Babar scores runs, playes less dot balls but takes a lot of balls initially when he gets to 50 runs. In a 120 ball game, he consumes typically 35 to 40 balls. This is irrespective of match situation. He can accelerate at the end but it's usually too late. He lacks power hitting as well because of which his SR lags the required rate. He needs match awareness

Kohli starts slow as well but can make up depending on the match. He plays very few dot balls too but also has a power game and supreme fitness to run 2's at will. His match awareness and chasing ability under pressure is next to none.
 
Surprising to see this but we all know Babar needs to add another gear to his game against top flight teams and especially in run chases. Also surprising to not see Sarfaraz in this list as he is one of the best in ODIs currently.
 
rhony said:
This is just part of the equation. Dot ball percentage, runs scored, match awareness and Strike rate should be considered together.

Some like Like Manish Pandey scores few runs typically at run a ball. He fails in the SR and the runs scored category but is good in the dot ball percentage. He is average in match awareness

Babar scores runs, playes less dot balls but takes a lot of balls initially when he gets to 50 runs. In a 120 ball game, he consumes typically 35 to 40 balls. This is irrespective of match situation. He can accelerate at the end but it's usually too late. He lacks power hitting as well because of which his SR lags the required rate. He needs match awareness

Kohli starts slow as well but can make up depending on the match. He plays very few dot balls too but also has a power game and supreme fitness to run 2's at will. His match awareness and chasing ability under pressure is next to none.
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35 ball 50 is very good. Kohli sr is around 130 in t20s and in pakpassion people talk like his sr is 200
 
Smudger said:
35 ball 50 is very good. Kohli sr is around 130 in t20s and in pakpassion people talk like his sr is 200
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Again making the error of looking just at the SR. IF the RR is 12 rpo, Kohli will score accordingly. If it is 8 rpo, he won't be smoking the balls for sixers to improve his SR. It's called match awareness
 
rhony said:
Again making the error of looking just at the SR. IF the RR is 12 rpo, Kohli will score accordingly. If it is 8 rpo, he won't be smoking the balls for sixers to improve his SR. It's called match awareness
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Well said.
 
rhony said:
Again making the error of looking just at the SR. IF the RR is 12 rpo, Kohli will score accordingly. If it is 8 rpo, he won't be smoking the balls for sixers to improve his SR. It's called match awareness
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You are right but Kohli cant chase 12 an over for more than 3-4 overs. He simply has not got the hitting ability like KP,Gayle or AB
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Just goes to show how good he can be if he improves his power game
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He dont need to have a power game. You can easily accommodate a batsman who does not have a power game but is technically correct, can rotate strike and is hard to get out and thats Babar Azam. But I dont want Babar batting in first overs and last overs. Babar is very good for middle overs (6 to 15). If he is still on crease after 15 overs then Mickey should give him instruction to change his game and either hit out or get out which will most likely result in him getting out in the last 5 overs and thats all good. His job is to stable the team in middle overs and thats more than enough. Dont try to make him a superman and force him to do everything and others just came in to eat biryani.
 
Hes a world class white ball batsman. He would be even greater with a power game but he would walk into any limited overs 11 in the world. Thats how good babar is. Kohli is on a totally different level
 
Lot of Babar Azam stats are missleading, his stats goes to huge dip when playing against top sides aka AUS/ENG/SA/NZ/IND, we play so little against them... That's why Kohli is so good, because his stats hold against top sides pretty much equally... Babar has to be analyzed in context of top side. We play so much against the Laloo teams that it blind side fans and selectors equally...
 
Reminder to those getting too excited over this stat:

There's hardly any one better at low number of dot balls than Hashim Amla, Williamson, Sarfraz etc.

Great for Tests.

What they all lack is an impact + power game.

Babar is no doubt a run machine. All he needs is another gear.
 
Smudger said:
You are right but Kohli cant chase 12 an over for more than 3-4 overs. He simply has not got the hitting ability like KP,Gayle or AB
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He is more consistent than all the players you mentioned. He has several ways of scoring. I remember a WC T20 game against AUS where he took 4 2's and a boundary to get 12 runs. He has six hitting ability through pure timing and can score boundaries at will
 
Let's put it this way. If Kohli stays not out until the end, India wins more often than not while chasing. Can't be said about Babar or other batsmen. SR hardly matters when the team wins.
 
Would like to see him do this while chasing a total... before comparing him to someone like Kohli
 
I think it is good to see Babar scoring runs. He is okay in the Pakistan team as he is surrounded by stroke players. If he scores at 128 and averages 45, he is doing his bit.
 
Playing more than 70% games against depeleted WI and a third rate World XI can spike anyone's stats.

His stats in both ODI and T20s are deeply misleading just like Adam Voges 60+ avg. in Tests.
 
Opening is best position for Babar. He can get some real big runs opening. Also , his style of batting suits there.
 
yasir said:
Lot of Babar Azam stats are missleading, his stats goes to huge dip when playing against top sides aka AUS/ENG/SA/NZ/IND, we play so little against them... That's why Kohli is so good, because his stats hold against top sides pretty much equally... Babar has to be analyzed in context of top side. We play so much against the Laloo teams that it blind side fans and selectors equally...
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You do realize that Kohli is 29 and has tons of experience and Babar is just 23? :babar
 
Babar's T20 strike rate is 127 and he achieves that without taking risks at all which makes me wonder that if he plays with the mentality of T20s in ODIs his average might go down a bit but he can easily maintain strike rate of 100 or even 110.
 
Greenstorm said:
Babar's T20 strike rate is 127 and he achieves that without taking risks at all which makes me wonder that if he plays with the mentality of T20s in ODIs his average might go down a bit but he can easily maintain strike rate of 100 or even 110.
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Fair enough thinking, but brother this game of cricket is all about probabilities and chances. For Babar to maintain that 127 SR he adds slightly more risk taking shots to his game against the balls he might have defended in ODIs.

It just a fine line which we have seen from Kohli as well where he adds just a little bit more shots for T20s which he wouldnt have been playing in ODIs in the first 20, 30 overs.
 
Whats the dot % of the proclaimed or as I should say coronated selfie king , I bet it's in excess of 40
 
Titan24 said:
Fair enough thinking, but brother this game of cricket is all about probabilities and chances. For Babar to maintain that 127 SR he adds slightly more risk taking shots to his game against the balls he might have defended in ODIs.

It just a fine line which we have seen from Kohli as well where he adds just a little bit more shots for T20s which he wouldnt have been playing in ODIs in the first 20, 30 overs.
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I believe Babar usually goes into his shell early on at the start of his innings in ODIs. He plays too many dot balls early on, lacks intent and becomes overly cautious which I think can be reduced by a slight change of mindset when he goes out to bat.
 
Greenstorm said:
Babar's T20 strike rate is 127 and he achieves that without taking risks at all which makes me wonder that if he plays with the mentality of T20s in ODIs his average might go down a bit but he can easily maintain strike rate of 100 or even 110.
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His intention is to.stick around for 35 overs in ODIs. For that he needs to be careful facing first 12 overs from the best bowlers in the opposition. In T20s he has to do that for only 4 or 6 overs. If he gets out in T20s early, the rest of the batsmen can easily play out the remaining overs. Also, his SR is T20s moves from 110/120 to 140+ only after he makes his 50.
 
He played 10 out 20 matches against windies and 3 against world 11 playing in Pak. So you need to take these stats with pinch of salt.
 
People harping Babar Azam's stats should really consider Adam Voges as the second greatest test player of all times without question.
 
Babar will never be as good as Kohli Root etc he is developing fine in 2 out of 3 formats hopefully will translate results in tests aswell. Pakistan batman usually mature late I expect him be consistent in all three formats between 28-35
 
Xoib said:
Babar will never be as good as Kohli Root etc he is developing fine in 2 out of 3 formats hopefully will translate results in tests aswell. Pakistan batman usually mature late I expect him be consistent in all three formats between 28-35
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Who asked you how good baber can be?

And on what base did you said this?
 
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