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Babar Azam versus Litton Das

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Both are 20 and talented and just started their careers. Let's see how they go.
 
Babar Azam is a batsmen while Litton doesn't keep every match so mainly a batsmen.
 
Sorry to disappoint bangla fans but babar azam is leagues ahead of any 20 year old in the world let alone litton.
 
Madplayer said:
Sorry to disappoint bangla fans but babar azam is leagues ahead of any 20 year old in the world let alone litton.
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How come?? When saying that someone is leagues ahead, that someone must be a complete package! Which isnt the case! He lacks power hitting as of now! He hasn't a good FC record yet! On what basis, mate???
 
On subcontinent flat wickets, I would pick Liton. In difficult batting wickets I would pick Babar.
Babar has better techniques but he is not the type to score fast.

Liton is strong on the leg side and needs to improve his batting on the off side. I have a feeling, that he would improve that aspect of his game with in the next few months..
 
zabalestmsm said:
How come?? When saying that someone is leagues ahead, that someone must be a complete package! Which isnt the case! He lacks power hitting as of now! He hasn't a good FC record yet! On what basis, mate???
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Potential
It would be clear to u very soon.

And That lack of power game is blown out of proportion
 
Madplayer said:
Potential
It would be clear to u very soon.

And That lack of power game is blown out of proportion
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same potential which made Shehzad, Jamshed and Umar leagues ahead of any other youngster in the world?
 
Madplayer said:
Sorry to disappoint bangla fans but babar azam is leagues ahead of any 20 year old in the world let alone litton.
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For all the flak Sami Aslam gets here for his technique Babar Azam is not even ahead of him neither in domestic compare both of their List A records and never was Babar ahead of him in U-19 level as well so no Babar is not leagues ahead of every other Batsmen because he is not even leagues ahead of his own peers.
 
zabalestmsm said:
How come?? When saying that someone is leagues ahead, that someone must be a complete package! Which isnt the case! He lacks power hitting as of now! He hasn't a good FC record yet! On what basis, mate???
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Power hitting and Babar Azam - I've had enough of this discussion.

You're right, Azam isn't Pollard, I apologize on his behalf.

This statement drives me nuts - anyone who's seen Azam in limited overs cricket will know he is fully able to accelerate, I'd say more so than Haris Sohail who had the same criticism thrown at him but 1 innings vs Zimbabwe and no one mentions it.

Azam is an excellent accumulator who knows how to pick out boundaries and score briskly without unnecessary slogging, yet somehow on PP, this is a disadvantage for a number 3 batsman.

As for his FC record, that will improve with time - he's got all the attributes needed for a great 5 day player and it's only a matter of time before he shows it.

The way he is able to carve out innings in List A matches shows me that he has what it takes temperamentally to score in the longest format, even if stats don't back me up thus far.

As for the question itself, haven't seen much of Litton, but from what I've seen, I'd definitely take Azam over him.
 
Cricket lover 27 said:
For all the flak Sami Aslam gets here for his technique Babar Azam is not even ahead of him neither in domestic compare both of their List A records and never was Babar ahead of him in U-19 level as well so no Babar is not leagues ahead of every other Batsmen because he is not even leagues ahead of his own peers.
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There are lies, damned lies and statistics.
 
HuzaifaElahi said:
Power hitting and Babar Azam - I've had enough of this discussion.

You're right, Azam isn't Pollard, I apologize on his behalf.

This statement drives me nuts - anyone who's seen Azam in limited overs cricket will know he is fully able to accelerate, I'd say more so than Haris Sohail who had the same criticism thrown at him but 1 innings vs Zimbabwe and no one mentions it.

Azam is an excellent accumulator who knows how to pick out boundaries and score briskly without unnecessary slogging, yet somehow on PP, this is a disadvantage for a number 3 batsman.

As for his FC record, that will improve with time - he's got all the attributes needed for a great 5 day player and it's only a matter of time before he shows it.

The way he is able to carve out innings in List A matches shows me that he has what it takes temperamentally to score in the longest format, even if stats don't back me up thus far.

As for the question itself, haven't seen much of Litton, but from what I've seen, I'd definitely take Azam over him.
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Absolutely great post. We saw it in one innings vs Zimbabwe. Started out slow, held his nerve and then accelerated to almost a run a ball with proper cricketing shots, great shots and without any stupid risky shots. No slogging needed. He doesn't need to be Afridi and he isn't a #7 batsman, why do people act like he needs to be.
 
lol, people claiming that he is not power hitter, so now tell me you will opt Umar akmal , maqsood, or Babar? babar can play a good anchoring knock and he can accelerate.
on the other note, if there is power hitter in the team especially young player, people will label him as a HACK.
we can't accommodate 11 technical players and we can't accommodate 11 hacks. so stop criticizing about power hitting or technique.
 
For odi's I would pick Litton Das. This kid is special also his FC stats are good too. And at the moment i think bangladesh domestics are slightly better than pakistani domestics.
 
#GreenRoars said:
lol, people claiming that he is not power hitter, so now tell me you will opt Umar akmal , maqsood, or Babar? babar can play a good anchoring knock and he can accelerate.
on the other note, if there is power hitter in the team especially young player, people will label him as a HACK.
we can't accommodate 11 technical players and we can't accommodate 11 hacks. so stop criticizing about power hitting or technique.
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People can't even enjoy Mukhtar and his power game without crying hack/slog. Babar plays proper cricketing shots to accelerate, the end.
 
Babar at the age of 16 was scoring century's in under 19 against quality teams didn't see Das doing so I would go with Babar

I still do believe Das is a good prospect and has a bright future along with Babar
 
I think the purpose of this thread is to be bumped later on.

Babar looked good, so did Litton. Two of the better batsman from domestics despite young age. The difference is that Babar was hyped to the moon and Litton has been hyped only recently. Only time will tell who is the better batsman
 
AZM786 said:
What a stupid comparison and shows why BD fans are most disliked and delusional fans in the world, couple years ago they were jumping up and down saying that Nasir Hossain was better than Kohli.

Fact 1
Babar Azam was playing U19 when he was 14/15 years old. In U19 virtually all players are 19/20 years old and every year makes a massive difference. Yet he was dominating bowlers and was a gun batsman in tournaments.

Fact 2
Never heard of this Litton Das until now (and I follow domestic). Babar Azam is the real deal

Fact 3
Litton came in at #3 against an absolute joke Indian attack yet couldn't even muster 50. Babar Azam on the other hand knew how volatile PCB is (after seeing Sami Aslam get dropped - who himself had a better debut than Litton Das) so a lot of pressure was on him on debut. He had wickets tumbling all around him yet still scored 50+.

Stupid comparison, worse than the Junaid Khan - B. Kumar thread. Should be closed.
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LOL I am not a Bangladesh fan. I am a Pakistan fan and the reason why I created this thread is that I knew some of these Bangladesh fans will be saying "Litton is miles better". For me Babar Azam is a much better player then Litton but Litton is promising too.
 
Litton played 22 FC match,1967 run ,avg 53

Babar 20 FC match,1013 run avg 35
 
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Little Das is basically Sachin Tendulkar all over again. He is the most talented batsman I've ever seen. The Don wishes he was good at young Littons age. Now he just needs to crack on and fulfill his unreal potential. He is as talented as Sachin, but plays for the team(rather than selfishly for records), so he will be far more dangerous than Poor old Sachin. If he doesn't average 75 plus in all formats by the time he retires, I will consider suicide in my sorrow of such unfulfilled potential.
 
Neferpitou said:
Soumya Sarkar is a superior talent to Litton.
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Soumya has 1 century in FC cricket. Litton has plenty and also has a higher List A average than Soumya. Speaking of which- Soumya is basically our answer to an aggressive top order batsman with solid technique yet limited footwork. Litton is more of a proper batsman.

Bullet Drive said:
Babar is better.
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I have seen both players yet I can't come to the conclusion on who is better based on 1-2 matches. Both are equally promising but its a matter of how they perform in their international duties.
 
Executioner said:
Soumya has 1 century in FC cricket. Litton has plenty and also has a higher List A average than Soumya. Speaking of which- Soumya is basically our answer to an aggressive top order batsman with solid technique yet limited footwork. Litton is more of a proper batsman.
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I don't really care for FC stats unless it's shield or SA cricket. I haven't seen enough of Litton but from what I have, Soumya is superior. A brilliant timer, isn't bothered by swing whatsoever, moves his feet well, has a slight problem playing the short ball but is able to evade it easily and most importantly has nerves of steel. He is one of the brightest talents in the world.
 
Neferpitou said:
I don't really care for FC stats unless it's shield or SA cricket. I haven't seen enough of Litton but from what I have, Soumya is superior. A brilliant timer, isn't bothered by swing whatsoever, moves his feet well, has a slight problem playing the short ball but is able to evade it easily and most importantly has nerves of steel. He is one of the brightest talents in the world.
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Yes he has nerves of steel but short ball is a big weakness. A world class batsman is not defined by how many strengths he has but the limited amount of weakness he has.

Soumya also doesn't have the greatest footwork when you compare to Litton. I found that Soumya struggled when Ashwin bowled. He needs to work on that. Litton is just starting his career. You can argue about that fact that Soumya can be a different kind of batsman, someone who takes the attack the to the bowler and demolisesh everything. Litton is a genuine batsman who I think will succeed more than Sarkar especially in longer formats
 
BDwarriors said:
Litton played 22 FC match,1967 run ,avg 53

Babar 20 FC match,1013 run avg 35
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Babar's FC average is misleading, he has always had talent, but wasn't converting it into performances in the FC format, however last year, he made a 200 in the FC tournament final. That FC average will definitely go up.
 
Executioner said:
Yes he has nerves of steel but short ball is a big weakness. A world class batsman is not defined by how many strengths he has but the limited amount of weakness he has.

Soumya also doesn't have the greatest footwork when you compare to Litton. I found that Soumya struggled when Ashwin bowled. He needs to work on that. Litton is just starting his career. You can argue about that fact that Soumya can be a different kind of batsman, someone who takes the attack the to the bowler and demolisesh everything. Litton is a genuine batsman who I think will succeed more than Sarkar especially in longer formats
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He should get over that weakness in a couple of years. Too good a player. A world class batsman is very much defined by his nerves. Kohli, Warner, Smith all have weaknesses but they make up for that with their unwavering confidence.

Soumya has good footwork against pacers. I haven't watched him against Ashwin, so can't speak on that. He was the main catalyst against NZ in the WC. With Boult and Southee making the ball sing in genuine swinging conditions, had Tamim and Imrul struggling. Then comes Soumya and counters them effortlessly and turns the game on its head. That's when I knew he was a class player. There would be no Mahmudullah century without Soumya's counter.

Let Litton play against quality bowlers and outside Bangladesh before making conclusions.
 
Neferpitou said:
He should get over that weakness in a couple of years. Too good a player. A world class batsman is very much defined by his nerves. Kohli, Warner, Smith all have weaknesses but they make up for that with their unwavering confidence.

Soumya has good footwork against pacers. I haven't watched him against Ashwin, so can't speak on that. He was the main catalyst against NZ in the WC. With Boult and Southee making the ball sing in genuine swinging conditions, had Tamim and Imrul struggling. Then comes Soumya and counters them effortlessly and turns the game on its head. That's when I knew he was a class player. There would be no Mahmudullah century without Soumya's counter.

Let Litton play against quality bowlers and outside Bangladesh before making conclusions.
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Good observation. But i don't Soumya can be anything like Warner. Soumya is far more talented but we don't have the domestics where players are challenged enough. Fearless attitude is great but Soumya has a lot to work on.

Litton is more of a safe bet. Also, he can play fearless cricket as well.
 
When mahmudullah come who has to go? Litton or nasir? and where is naeem islam aka sokka naim vanish?
 
Executioner said:
Good observation. But i don't Soumya can be anything like Warner. Soumya is far more talented but we don't have the domestics where players are challenged enough. Fearless attitude is great but Soumya has a lot to work on.

Litton is more of a safe bet. Also, he can play fearless cricket as well.
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btw, where is Bijoy? is he still injured? - Off topic.
 
Executioner said:
Good observation. But i don't Soumya can be anything like Warner. Soumya is far more talented but we don't have the domestics where players are challenged enough. Fearless attitude is great but Soumya has a lot to work on.

Litton is more of a safe bet. Also, he can play fearless cricket as well.
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Soumya isn't more talented than Warner who is a freak himself. They're around the same level but when it gets to that, your performances separate you from the rest and Soumya has too much to prove. Domestic cricket isn't a problem but the lack of tests against quality sides will be. But still the more noise Bangladesh makes, the more teams you'll attract. Bright days ahead for Bangladesh.
 
Bijoy is recovering from injury. Played domestics has done well in them with plenty of 100s.

But he comes across as an unattractive cricket who bats slower than Misbah despite being an opener and when he is about score 100 he knows only one gear which is the first gear. Compare that with Soumya sarkar who scored his first 100 by hitting a six
 
Neferpitou said:
Soumya isn't more talented than Warner who is a freak himself. They're around the same level but when it gets to that, your performances separate you from the rest and Soumya has too much to prove. Domestic cricket isn't a problem but the lack of tests against quality sides will be. But still the more noise Bangladesh makes, the more teams you'll attract. Bright days ahead for Bangladesh.
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I don't see our FC cricket improving much. Soumya at best will be our version of Ganguly. Warner on the other hand is the best opener in world cricket right now alongside Amla.

I saw his batting at tests, doesn't know how to play tests. Simply throws his bat around and not so good at rotating the strike.
 
Executioner said:
I don't see our FC cricket improving much. Soumya at best will be our version of Ganguly. Warner on the other hand is the best opener in world cricket right now alongside Amla.

I saw his batting at tests, doesn't know how to play tests. Simply throws his bat around and not so good at rotating the strike.
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Your FC cricket has improved hence the recent production of quality players. [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] posted about your domestic in detail somewhere.

He's 22 and batting at the wrong position. Relax.
 
Sarkar isn't good enough for Tests, period. Its kind of like having Maxwell in Tests. Problem is that selectors consider him as a pace option which he really isn't. Now test cricket is not about having part time bowlers is it?

And no denying that our domestics have improved, but still a long way to go. And yes, the system has improved. not so the conditions of the pitches, the coaching and such.
 
Executioner said:
Sarkar isn't good enough for Tests, period. Its kind of like having Maxwell in Tests. Problem is that selectors consider him as a pace option which he really isn't. Now test cricket is not about having part time bowlers is it?

And no denying that our domestics have improved, but still a long way to go. And yes, the system has improved. not so the conditions of the pitches, the coaching and such.
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I thought you started to get the hang of it but no, comparing him to Maxwell. :facepalm:

A couple years back Warner was considered a hack. You can figure the rest.
 
both are good but Litton is more consistent and world has no seen more of Litton yet. same goes with babar
 
Madplayer said:
Potential
It would be clear to u very soon.

And That lack of power game is blown out of proportion
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potential wise Pakistan has one of the great cricket team in the world.. potential wise Afridi can be a great all rounder of the game, Potential wise Kamran Akmal can be a great WK Batsman of the game.. Unfortunately potential means very little in cricket. .
 
tonmoy said:
no sh** einstien
he did not say sarkar was maxwell... he said, certain players are not equipped to play certain type of cricket.
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Which is not true in Soumya's case. He is very much equipped to play test cricket. Maxwell on the other hand is a hack who relies solely on his hand-eye and bat speed.
 
To be really honest, I did not see anything special in that innings Babar Azam played against Zimbabwe, their bowling attack is worse than Afghanistan and scotland. The only time he tried to accelerate, he got out twice in 3 deliveries... His boundaries were against couple of half trackers and he only played one great shot (inside out over cover)...

That being said, he has a great technique. Looks solid, does not look like getting out....
for ODI in flat tracks (which is the case 90% of the time) I will not pick him... in Test he would be preferred over liton I guess. Totally disagree that he is a class of his own... India actually has a lot of really talented young batsman, who played some wonderful innings in IPL... Rameez even mentioned Shreyas Iyer during the Zimbabwe series.
 
zabalestmsm said:
How come?? When saying that someone is leagues ahead, that someone must be a complete package! Which isnt the case! He lacks power hitting as of now! He hasn't a good FC record yet! On what basis, mate???
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On their personal likes and dislikes. Thats how the resident selectors go by here.
 
Madplayer said:
Potential
It would be clear to u very soon.

And That lack of power game is blown out of proportion
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Wow sir i wish i had the same tool to measure potential like you.

Right handed fawad on current stage. But i am ready to change my mind if he shows he has ability.
 
I can already predict that the same people who are hyping babar to the sky will be on his throat if he slips. Thats how things go here.
 
Let these guys play 30-50 matches, why we PPrs so hurry to comment about record,ranking,achievements,upcoming legend and bla bla after one two match!
 
11ShadyBrothers said:
Wow sir i wish i had the same tool to measure potential like you.

Right handed fawad on current stage. But i am ready to change my mind if he shows he has ability.
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WTH are you talking about ? Babar's technique is leaps and bounds ahead of Fawad's.
 
Ahson Afzal said:
WTH are you talking about ? Babar's technique is leaps and bounds ahead of Fawad's.
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Yep. I would be interested to know how it is
Leaps and bounds better than fawad or das or anyone for that matter? Or these are just fun words you use to impress others?
 
Who the hell is Babar Azam? Liton Das is the best young batsman in the world. I expect him to destroy Indian trundlers in the next match.
 
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Executioner said:
I think the purpose of this thread is to be bumped later on.

Babar looked good, so did Litton. Two of the better batsman from domestics despite young age. The difference is that Babar was hyped to the moon and Litton has been hyped only recently. Only time will tell who is the better batsman
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He was hyped to the moon only because this is primarily a Pakistani forum.
 
smbhayi said:
potential wise pakistan has one of the great cricket team in the world.. Potential wise afridi can be a great all rounder of the game, potential wise kamran akmal can be a great wk batsman of the game.. Unfortunately potential means very little in cricket. .
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potw.
 
11ShadyBrothers said:
Wow sir i wish i had the same tool to measure potential like you.

Right handed fawad on current stage. But i am ready to change my mind if he shows he has ability[/].
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You will .

if you are a man of your words.
 
11ShadyBrothers said:
I can already predict that the same people who are hyping babar to the sky will be on his throat if he slips. Thats how things go here.
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+10000 because Pakistan's batting will collapse again and Babar Azam will be the only proper Batsman left on the crease now he is trying to hit Boundaries but Cannot

As a result he is OUT

PPer's calling for his head

End of another fairytale of a Talented youngster
 
Madplayer said:
You will .

if you are a man of your words.
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LOL. You dont have to tell me that. If anyone benefits Pakistani team they are my favorite.

Cricket lover 27 said:
+10000 because Pakistan's batting will collapse again and Babar Azam will be the only proper Batsman left on the crease now he is trying to hit Boundaries but Cannot

As a result he is OUT

PPer's calling for his head

End of another fairytale of a Talented youngster
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Exactly. I know the mentality here of the majority. Why hype someone who has yet to play proper international cricket? Only these geniuses know.
 
11ShadyBrothers said:
Yep. I would be interested to know how it is
Leaps and bounds better than fawad or das or anyone for that matter? Or these are just fun words you use to impress others?
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Go and see highlights of Babar's 50 vs ZIM. He has a very good technique.
 
11ShadyBrothers said:
LOL. You dont have to tell me that. If anyone benefits Pakistani team they are my favorite.



Exactly. I know the mentality here of the majority. Why hype someone who has yet to play proper international cricket? Only these geniuses know.
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If you have seen my posts, i usually dont hype a player. I always wait for them to play a substantial amount of games before declaring they are good. Since the time i have come on PP, i have hyped only two players before they debuted/played a good amount of games. One was haris sohail and the other is babar azam.
 
Madplayer said:
If you have seen my posts, i usually dont hype a player. I always wait for them to play a substantial amount of games before declaring they are good. Since the time i have come on PP, i have hyped only two players before they debuted/played a good amount of games. One was haris sohail and the other is babar azam.
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I avoid hyping any player because it backfires most often than not and creates un-necessary expectations.
 
It's all hogwash that Babar > Liton and vice-versa. All the posters are so naive who started this wild comparison.

Both players have just started playing Intl cricket, not to mention in home-conditions. So give them a break, let they play for an year or so. More importantly have them taste some away tour i.e. AUG, NZ, END and SA and then bump this thread.

Oh yes, if we're arguing on base of their potential, then didn't we said the same for Umar Akmal too?

Unfortunately, potential doesn't mean much in today's Modern cricket.
 
11ShadyBrothers said:
Its zimbabwe ahson. :)
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I've seen him play when he was 16 (in the U19 WC 2010), he was the youngest player in that tournament - and he ended up leading runscorer. So I know what I'm talking about when I say he has a good technique. Besides, Fawad Alam has a poor technique and he will play with the same technique whether the opposition is Zimbabwe or Australia, so why bring up the opposition ?

Not going to compare with Litton at this stage, because I haven't seen Litton play that much, but he looks a good talent as well.
 
asyed said:
It's all hogwash that Babar > Liton and vice-versa. All the posters are so naive who started this wild comparison.

Both players have just started playing Intl cricket, not to mention in home-conditions. So give them a break, let they play for an year or so. More importantly have them taste some away tour i.e. AUG, NZ, END and SA and then bump this thread.

Oh yes, if we're arguing on base of their potential, then didn't we said the same for Umar Akmal too?

Unfortunately, potential doesn't mean much in today's Modern cricket.
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True, it's mostly the Bangladeshi fanboys who are saying Litton > Babar anyway, I doubt if they have even seen Babar play.

Way too early to say who is better.
 
its ofcourse expected that Some BD fans will say litton >> Babar

And for Pakistani fans to claim Babar >> Litton.

Lets bookmark this thread and bump it again a year later. Even if one of them get off to a flyer, it still won't tell us whether one is considerably better than the other. Yeah for now we can judge them based on domestic performance. By which Litton is supreme to Babar who on the contrary has had some good stats in U-19 level. Litton performed in U-19 level but given the hype Babar Azam has I think he did better in such formats. In my opinion, the word potential has no value. The word "Ability" is the more polished word for potential. Lets see which of them is "more able" and whether these player makes most use of their "ability"
 
salahudin said:
Das has no footwork
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He does. Showed good footwork in the tests but hasn't impressed me in the ODIs. I will give him some more time before making a judgement on him. Probably a better test batsman than that for ODIs
 
babar azam >>>> das.

das is just making some soft runs against the pathetic indian bowling.
 
TheNightWatchman said:
Babar Azam has played just one international innings and Das 2. Why are we comparing?
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Because this is Pakpassion and some of the folks here are excited when a new Pakistani talent emerge and they are compared to their competitior
 
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