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Babar Azam versus Lokesh Rahul

KL gave a top start to the Indian run chase.

6 overs, 60 runs for 1. Well done!
 
Rahul is great in white ball cricket. He's secured his position. It was always a matter of being given proper chances in a fixed position. Glad Kohli did justice to Rahul finally.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Rahul is great in white ball cricket. He's secured his position. It was always a matter of being given proper chances in a fixed position. Glad Kohli did justice to Rahul finally.
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Hope he will score in tests as well, I want to see him in all formats.
Kohli on decline, KL is the guy to watch out next 4 years in all formats.
 
Pacy with wisdom said:
We have a fantastic future in cricket, as a whole, let alone just fast bowling.

We are moving fast in the right direction. Our domestic cricket has come up by leaps and bounds in just a year.
I can promise all my fellow posters here, that Pakistan is the team to watch as this decade progresses.

The age of mediocrity is coming to an end, and in just a few years, this will start becoming more and more apparent. InshaAllah .
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Alhamdulliah our future is bright both in batting and bowling
 
T20 International Runs in 2020

K.L Rahul - 404 in 10 innings - 50.50 Average 141.8 S.R
David Malan - 397 in 10 innings - 49.6 Ave 142 S.R

KL surpassed David Malan to become highest t20 run scorer this year.
 
Ab Fan said:
KL gave a top start to the Indian run chase.

6 overs, 60 runs for 1. Well done!
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It was a poor innings today by Rahul. He was clearly struggling to time the ball properly. He played better than this in NZ and I had more expectation from him on this tour. So overall dissapointed from him so far. Hope he get to bat at no.4 from second test when Kohli is away.
 
Rajdeep said:
It was a poor innings today by Rahul. He was clearly struggling to time the ball properly. He played better than this in NZ and I had more expectation from him on this tour. So overall dissapointed from him so far. Hope he get to bat at no.4 from second test when Kohli is away.
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That's good place for him to bat.
 
Rahul is on a different level to Babar in the T20s but Babar is a more well established Batsman in the Tests.
 
I agree with Lara - when Rahul is in his element, he is the best player to watch by some distance.

No one combines orthodox technique with grace and power that he does.
 
In this series : Average 26, SR 126 and mind you that was a high scoring series against a mediocre bowling line up.
Even tough he has some fabulous shots, his scoring rate is overrated.
 
Mamoon said:
I agree with Lara - when Rahul is in his element, he is the best player to watch by some distance.

No one combines orthodox technique with grace and power that he does.
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It's a shame that he is almost never "in his element". Even in these pitches, he hasn't looked fluent. And again you might like seeing Kl play, but personally, when Babar is batting I can't take my eyes off the screen. He is the only Batsman who can keep my attention like that, and it's true for my fans as well.
 
Wasnt at his best this series. Ceratainly had the ability to blast off during first 2 matches but seems to be preferring to strike at 120-130 since the ipl 100.
 
He looks like a different player when he is not in the same team as Kohli and Rohit. He gets overshadowed by those two giants and is forced to play second fiddle instead of imposing impose himself.

When he is playing alongside those two, his mind gets cluttered with trying to keep his place in the side rather than to dominate on the pitch.

Even in IPL, he looked restrained and unhappy in RCB and has looked like a different player once he stepped out of his shadow and moved to KXIP.
 
Mamoon said:
He looks like a different player when he is not in the same team as Kohli and Rohit. He gets overshadowed by those two giants and is forced to play second fiddle instead of imposing impose himself.

When he is playing alongside those two, his mind gets cluttered with trying to keep his place in the side rather than to dominate on the pitch.

Even in IPL, he looked restrained and unhappy in RCB and has looked like a different player once he stepped out of his shadow and moved to KXIP.
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There was no rohit this series. And in t20is i dont think he any longer needs to worry about his place. The only one challenging is dhawan who rahul is clearly better than.
 
Mamoon said:
He looks like a different player when he is not in the same team as Kohli and Rohit. He gets overshadowed by those two giants and is forced to play second fiddle instead of imposing impose himself.

When he is playing alongside those two, his mind gets cluttered with trying to keep his place in the side rather than to dominate on the pitch.

Even in IPL, he looked restrained and unhappy in RCB and has looked like a different player once he stepped out of his shadow and moved to KXIP.
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He is opening the batting and Rohit isn't here. His numbers are beyond mediocre this series. If you want to appreciate Rahul fair enough, but in this thread, it's just a disrespect to Babar. Babar is on a different level, no matter how much people like to deny it.
 
What people fail to understand is that Babar has outperformed Rahul since age group cricket. Even in the 2010 u-19 World Cup Babar was the second highest run scorer of the tournament and that too as the youngest player. Rahul nowhere to be seen.
 
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Oh my god. Are we still having this conversation guys

BABAR IS BETTER IN TESTS. BABAR IS TOP 5 IN TESTS. Rahul?

RAHUL IS LIKE MARGINALLY AHEAD OF BABAR IN T20.

Rahul is a top 10 odi player. BABAR is top 5/6.

In T20, we shall see soon. Rahul is ahead cause of his power game but Babar is not far behind.
 
This thread needs to be visited only when it deserves to. Not after every single game including the dead rubber ones, or against associate nations.

Lets just wait for test matches now.
 
Rana said:
Lara is a joke. He said something like the Indian attack of today reminds him of the Wesf Indies attack in the past :)))
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He also thinks Azhar Ali’s century against England this year is one of the finest of this era :srt

That being said, I do agree that Rahul is one of the best players to watch these days when in full flow. It’s just his “extra gear” is completely overrated especially for the first 20 balls he faces in T20s. He makes up for it later in the innings which is why he edges Babar and Malan but he’s only marginally ahead as a result.
 
Babar Azam in terms of performances is ahead absolutely but I would watch a in flow Rahul over Babar any day and I just don’t mean that as an Indian fan, Rahul is more explosive and exciting than Babar at his best.
 
If anyone wants to learn about cricket from a Jr Tolkien perspective, they should ask Lara some questions.

The man will come up with some gems as a response
 
Local.Dada said:
Babar Azam in terms of performances is ahead absolutely but I would watch a in flow Rahul over Babar any day and I just don’t mean that as an Indian fan, Rahul is more explosive and exciting than Babar at his best.
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I can and will say the same for Babar. I watch Babar even when he is struggling(which rarely happens). People can have preferences, it's all subjective.
 
Babar Azam more often than not gets to set his own pace as the best bat in a weak team. Guys like Rahul,Iyer and Pandey usually have to do a thankless job after the top 3 of Rohit,Shikhar and Virat. Either they have pressure to go from ball 1 after a great start or they have to play in a situation of collapse due to heavy bowling conditions or a collapse due to a bowler being in the middle of a great spell. Thankless job indeed. So you would never know. I don’t think Babar is better than any of those guys (Iyer,Rahul or Pandey) May be marginal at best.
 
Batter gets out trying to get off to a good start chasing 186. I don't get what is the point of bumping this thread. KL was trying to get India off to a good start.

Pakistan produce 1 world class batter and they lose the plot in terms of analysis and are extremely arrogant about it.

Babar is a brilliant player but he is not perfect and still has a lot to prove as well.
 
Hasan123 said:
Batter gets out trying to get off to a good start chasing 186. I don't get what is the point of bumping this thread. KL was trying to get India off to a good start.

Pakistan produce 1 world class batter and they lose the plot in terms of analysis and are extremely arrogant about it.

Babar is a brilliant player but he is not perfect and still has a lot to prove as well.
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Same can be said of Indians hyping their good but not premier bowlers to the moon.
 
The IPL hack lost his way in test cricket, now with his chums Iyer and Samson is being found out in international T20 cricket as well.
 
Varun said:
The IPL hack lost his way in test cricket, now with his chums Iyer and Samson is being found out in international T20 cricket as well.
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Your peers seem to think Babar is marginally better than either of Iyer, Rahul and Samson. Please don't use the word 'hack" for these superstars.
 
Is this a comparison anymore.
Babar is world class and is talked about as the best in the business.
Rahul is still just talked about as a potential talent.
 
ethan hunt said:
Is this a comparison anymore.
Babar is world class and is talked about as the best in the business.
Rahul is still just talked about as a potential talent.
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But people like Brian Lara like watching Rahul bat in his element. Rahul smokes this comparison based on that aspect alone.
 
ethan hunt said:
Is this a comparison anymore.
Babar is world class and is talked about as the best in the business.
Rahul is still just talked about as a potential talent.
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Rahul is a shining example for everyone in Ranji Trophy cricket about how not to lose their way once they have begun their test career.
 
Babar has his problem in t20i but he is on the right track .His strike rate have improve massively his overall strike rate was hovering around 118 in 2018 which is now 130
 
KL Rahul is still a world class limited overs player India have. Nothing has changed. He averages 45 in both ODI and T20 formats.

It is tests where his stats are poor and he will be getting another chance to rectify it in Down Under.
 
Hasan123 said:
Batter gets out trying to get off to a good start chasing 186. I don't get what is the point of bumping this thread. KL was trying to get India off to a good start.

Pakistan produce 1 world class batter and they lose the plot in terms of analysis and are extremely arrogant about it.

Babar is a brilliant player but he is not perfect and still has a lot to prove as well.
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If I played international cricket, I would probably score 0(1) in each game. But by your logic that can be looked over as I would only be 'trying to get off to a good start.'

Rahul is a decent limited overs specialist and nothing more. His talent is hyped to the moon as if he is a 20-year old making his debut, whereas he's actually about to turn 29 in a few months and done nothing of note. India has real talents to get excited about, such as Paddikal, Gill, Shaw, Jaiswal etc. Yet, for some reason, fans seem to be more obsessed with the plainly average Rahul, Samson and the likes. This excitement over average players should be saved for the bowling group, where trundlers such as Nagarkoti, Tyagi, Siraj, Thakur and Chahar are being churned out.
 
What is the point of this comparison? Babar is in or advancing to the upper echelons of the batting elite in all 3 formats. Rahul top scores in a domestic T20 league and fights Rishabh Pant for a place in India's XI.
 
Virat Kohli, Cheteshwar Pujara, Jasprit Bumrah, Ravichandran Ashwin, Steve Smith, Marnus Labuschagne, Pat Cummins, Nathan Lyon – It’s a tough job to find a more exciting pool of talent than this going into a Test series. The upcoming India-Australia four-match series is expected to be a cricket fan’s delight with some of the biggest and most followed cricketers going up against each other for the Border-Gavaskar Trophy.

To pick one among them is not an easy task. But not for Brian Lara. The West Indies legend had only name in his mind when he asked to name his player for the upcoming series.

Heaping praise on India batsman KL Rahul, Lara said he would pay to watch the right-hander bat when former Australia captain Ricky Ponting asked him to pick his favourite player.

“Brian, who is your favourite player in international cricket at the moment?” Asked Ponting while hosting a discussion for 7 cricket, the host broadcaster for the India vs Australia Test series with Lara and Sunil Gavaskar.

“That’s easy! It’s KL Rahul. If you’re talking about the two teams that are playing, KL Rahul it is for me. He is someone I’d pay to watch to bat,” said Lara.

The stylish left-hander said the way Rahul scores runs in the shortest format of the game by playing correct cricket shots is what makes him special.

“In the world Jofra Archer is excellent, Nicholas Pooran is there but I just love watching KL Rahul, especially in T20s, I know he’s going into Test cricket but in T20 when you see guy batting correctly with the ability to score runs with traditional shots, is just exceptional to watch,” added Lara.

Sharing his opinion about Rahul, who is making a comeback into the Indian Test side on the back of his white-ball form, Ponting said the Karnataka right-hander appeared to be a proper Test cricketer when he first arrived but it was commendable the way he moulded his game to become a very successful limited-overs batsman.

“He’s an interesting one for me. If you wind the clock 2-3 years back, he was probably an out and out technically correct Test match batsman but what he’s been able to do with his T20 batting in the last 2 IPLs has been unbelievable. He’s probably turned himself into a better white-ball player now. That doesn’t happen that often,” Ponting added.

Rahul kept wickets for India throughout the limited-overs series but did not feature in any of the two warm-up games in the lead up to the Test series. It will be interesting to see if he gets the nod ahead of Shubman Gill and Prithvi Shaw in the first Test in Adelaide starting from December 17.


https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ralia-tests/story-MnIsdqt8CoshbVqYoYM91M.html
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Babar vs Shreyas Iyer also? :inti
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Lmao. What an insult to Babar to be compared to that chump.

At least Rahul is close to Babar in T20s if not slightly ahead. In odi Babar is obviously better but Rahul is very good in odi.

But comparing a complete fodder like Iyer to Babar is extremely insulting. Should get banned for comparing the two.
Iyer is made for only Asia Pitches. He sucks outside Asia. Not sure about his ability to play swing either. He is Asia track bully.

Babar should only be compared with 4 players. Lolli, Smithy, Kane, Warner.
Root but U believe Babar is ahead of root now.
 
MenInG said:
Virat Kohli, Cheteshwar Pujara, Jasprit Bumrah, Ravichandran Ashwin, Steve Smith, Marnus Labuschagne, Pat Cummins, Nathan Lyon – It’s a tough job to find a more exciting pool of talent than this going into a Test series. The upcoming India-Australia four-match series is expected to be a cricket fan’s delight with some of the biggest and most followed cricketers going up against each other for the Border-Gavaskar Trophy.

To pick one among them is not an easy task. But not for Brian Lara. The West Indies legend had only name in his mind when he asked to name his player for the upcoming series.

Heaping praise on India batsman KL Rahul, Lara said he would pay to watch the right-hander bat when former Australia captain Ricky Ponting asked him to pick his favourite player.

“Brian, who is your favourite player in international cricket at the moment?” Asked Ponting while hosting a discussion for 7 cricket, the host broadcaster for the India vs Australia Test series with Lara and Sunil Gavaskar.

“That’s easy! It’s KL Rahul. If you’re talking about the two teams that are playing, KL Rahul it is for me. He is someone I’d pay to watch to bat,” said Lara.

The stylish left-hander said the way Rahul scores runs in the shortest format of the game by playing correct cricket shots is what makes him special.

“In the world Jofra Archer is excellent, Nicholas Pooran is there but I just love watching KL Rahul, especially in T20s, I know he’s going into Test cricket but in T20 when you see guy batting correctly with the ability to score runs with traditional shots, is just exceptional to watch,” added Lara.

Sharing his opinion about Rahul, who is making a comeback into the Indian Test side on the back of his white-ball form, Ponting said the Karnataka right-hander appeared to be a proper Test cricketer when he first arrived but it was commendable the way he moulded his game to become a very successful limited-overs batsman.

“He’s an interesting one for me. If you wind the clock 2-3 years back, he was probably an out and out technically correct Test match batsman but what he’s been able to do with his T20 batting in the last 2 IPLs has been unbelievable. He’s probably turned himself into a better white-ball player now. That doesn’t happen that often,” Ponting added.

Rahul kept wickets for India throughout the limited-overs series but did not feature in any of the two warm-up games in the lead up to the Test series. It will be interesting to see if he gets the nod ahead of Shubman Gill and Prithvi Shaw in the first Test in Adelaide starting from December 17.


https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ralia-tests/story-MnIsdqt8CoshbVqYoYM91M.html
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Ponting looked disappointed to hear that. He's not pleased with Rahul prioritizing T20s over tests.
 
Mamoon said:
Rahul is already better in T20Is, but if he was playing ODIs for a rubbish team like Pakistan and wasn’t getting overshadowed by the likes of Kohli and Rohit, he would also be better than Babar in ODIs.

Rahul is constantly insecure of his place in the ODI team and cannot express himself because he is always one bad game away from getting dropped and he doesn’t get a consistent run in the top 3.

If he was in Pakistan, he would be our first choice opener since 2014-2015 and would be captain by now. He would bat with a lot of freedom and confidence.

Same goes for Test cricket as well. The only reason he is able to express himself better in T20Is is because this is the only format where he has proper backing from the management and belief that his place in the side is permanent.

Both him and Babar are brilliant players, but he can do everything that Babar can and more.

Rahul = explosive version of Babar.
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Please tell us more.
 
Why does Babar keep getting compared to this hack? Rahul is by far the most overrated cricketer I have seen in the last 10 years.
 
It is unfair comparison. Babar is a different class batsman! But I believe he is not living upto the promise enough. I want to see him score big hundreds, but not against India. :-) He has age on his side to become a true great batsman.

Rahul is not a hack as some suggested. He is a class player too. He is out of form now. He will come back strong.
 
Mesozoic said:
It's unfair on Babar to compare him with Rahul, who even when not at his best scores at a similar rate to Babar.

Rahul is simply a better bat than Babar in T20s. The other too formats, well there shouldn't even be an argument as Azam is miles ahead.
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Lol the best of the lot

The king of at liberty with reality :)))
 
Rahul should be to Asad Shafiq instead. A lot of resources were invested in them but neither has been able to cement themselves in their respective teams.

Babar Azam is leagues ahead any of India's younger batsmen.
 
Local.Dada said:
Babar Azam more often than not gets to set his own pace as the best bat in a weak team. Guys like Rahul,Iyer and Pandey usually have to do a thankless job after the top 3 of Rohit,Shikhar and Virat. Either they have pressure to go from ball 1 after a great start or they have to play in a situation of collapse due to heavy bowling conditions or a collapse due to a bowler being in the middle of a great spell. Thankless job indeed. So you would never know. I don’t think Babar is better than any of those guys (Iyer,Rahul or Pandey) May be marginal at best.
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Please elaborate
 
Maybe some runs for Kings XI next month should put KL back on top

IPL>>> T20i
 
Poor series for him but he will be back with a bang soon. This is one of those immortal threads that refuse to die out and for good reason.

Pakistan’s best batsman by a country mile is comparable to the support cast of Indian batting such as KL Rahul, Iyer, Agarwal etc., which sums up the humongous gap between the two cricket nations.

India’s two great batsmen of this era (Kohli, Rohit) and Pujara (Tests) are far and beyond Babar’s reach, so it is only normal for him to be compared with the lower-tier Indian batsmen.
 
KLRahul last 17 innings

1 - 90+
7 - 50's
11 - 30+ Face without mouth

Don't get underestimate on failure's.
You must known that, doesn't effect on Greatness.

KL.jpg
 
Just going through a tough phase right now. Was brilliant in the format just last year.

I see a few trigger happy individuals are jumping up and down right now and there's nothing wrong with that either but the fact that Rahul has a much higher ceiling than Babar in T20 cricket will remain for a long long time to come. With all did respect, Babar can only dream of playing the knocks that Rahul played at the OT and Florida.....
 
He’s most likely going to get dropped next game for Surya Kumar Yadav

And SKY will take his opportunity with both hands
 
Then SKY will score a beautiful 50-75-100 on Debut, and we can have a trigger happy thread comparing him with Babar Azam.

The cycle will continue. The epic, comic essays will continue to be produced. The reality checks will continue to be provided when the going will get tough.
 
Just in terms of stats( although I don't care of T20 stats),

KL Rahul averages 40 at S/R of 142.

Babar averages 48 at S/R of 130.

The difference in S/R is quite big between the two. You can't strike so low even after averaging so high.

Babar is ahead because of his test and ODI performances and that is what matters, not bilateral T20s.
 
Ab Fan said:
Just in terms of stats( although I don't care of T20 stats),

KL Rahul averages 40 at S/R of 142.

Babar averages 48 at S/R of 130.

The difference in S/R is quite big between the two. You can't strike so low even after averaging so high.

Babar is ahead because of his test and ODI performances and that is what matters, not bilateral T20s.
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Babar has feasted on Zimbabwe at home conditions.

Remove Zimbabwe and check Babar's stats again. His SR goes down to 125.

KL's stats hardly change if you remove minnows.
 
Babar Azam is in different league. Rahul can only be compared to players like Haider Ali or Abdullah Shafique atm
 
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