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Babar Azam versus Lokesh Rahul

Indian captain needs to report the KL Rahul issue to higher management and take quick decisions. The trend is quite clear, he performs in warm up games, performs vs minnows and associate team and fails in every big game in tournaments. He also performed in a bilateral series just before the tournament.

Only if they had Rishabh Pant opening, as opener in his last game, he showed that he was capable of producing quick 28 odd of 15 balls which would have really set it up for Kohli and Rohit to play big knocks.
 
Babar Azam is also a bottler just like KL Rahul or slightly better than him. :inti
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Both are minnow bashers.

Babar is only better than KL when target is small, KL dude is worst opener.
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In 5+ tournaments, he has an extremely poor record in T20s. Average of 27 at strike rate of 113.

That's not even fit to tie the shoelace of Kohli. :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
In 5+ tournaments, he has an extremely poor record in T20s. Average of 27 at strike rate of 113.

That's not even fit to tie the shoelace of Kohli. :inti
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Babar SR is 93 in this wc with an average of 17.
Even KL out performed Babar.

I am saying even.
KL is such a pathetic opener but he won against Babar in this tournament.

Clash of Titans.
 
Ab Fan said:
In 5+ tournaments, he has an extremely poor record in T20s. Average of 27 at strike rate of 113.

That's not even fit to tie the shoelace of Kohli. :inti
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He can't shoelace someone who always looses before him.
Kohli is probably watching the match on TV.
 
[MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] are you confused now? You are trying to criticise KL Rahul in every thread, he was your overhyped hero not too long ago, but here in this thread you can be seen bringing Babar down? Bhai kehna kya chahte ho? :))) :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
[MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] are you confused now? You are trying to criticise KL Rahul in every thread, he was your overhyped hero not too long ago, but here in this thread you can be seen bringing Babar down? Bhai kehna kya chahte ho? :))) :inti
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Surely this thread is about KL vs Babar.
Both are worst openers and played match loosing performance.
Statistically KL won the battle.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Babar SR is 93 in this wc with an average of 17.
Even KL out performed Babar.

I am saying even.
KL is such a pathetic opener but he won against Babar in this tournament.

Clash of Titans.
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A SR of 93 is damn even more embarrassing. Please enlighten me with Temba Bavuma's SR?

He probably was carried by his team till the finals and the sole reason why Pakistan aren't champions lol. :rabada2 :inti
 
As for KL Rahul, I always rated him in Tests and I still rate him high there. In LOIs, I remember one poster rated him highly lol :91: :inti
 
It seems some fans are still finding it hard that an out of form Babar took Pakistan to the final of this T20 world cup. :inti
 
Worst SR in 2022 T20WC Super 12s
(1-6 overs)

80.00 - Babar Azam*
80.00 - Craig Ervine
81.63 - K Williamson
88.89 - Devon Conway
89.47 - KL Rahul
90.91 - Sean Williams
94.74 - Rohit Sharma
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Worst SR in 2022 T20WC Super 12s
(1-6 overs)

80.00 - Babar Azam*
80.00 - Craig Ervine
81.63 - K Williamson
88.89 - Devon Conway
89.47 - KL Rahul
90.91 - Sean Williams
94.74 - Rohit Sharma
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Babar is atleast a proper batsman unlike this fraud Rahul
 
Mediocre from both. KL Rahul is the ultimate mental midget. Babar's issue is not mental. More of a skill issue. Seen him miss out on several juicy deliveries. He relies purely on placement. If placement is missing he has nowhere to run. He has no concept of playing up and over.
 
bala977 said:
Babar is atleast a proper batsman unlike this fraud Rahul
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Exactly. KL Rahul has turned out to be a proper fraud who can only play against associate bowling line ups. He is a mental midget and should stick to IPL, not even go to Ranji where conditions sometimes can be challenging. Babar is a very good batsman on the other hand who has performed and proven himself.
 
RajBan said:
Exactly. KL Rahul has turned out to be a proper fraud who can only play against associate bowling line ups. He is a mental midget and should stick to IPL, not even go to Ranji where conditions sometimes can be challenging. Babar is a very good batsman on the other hand who has performed and proven himself.
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Anyone who followed IPL should not be shocked one bit. KL Rahul played all the games exactly like this. He bashed weaker bowling attacks. Even then his power play was exactly similar to what he did this world T20
 
Mobashir said:
He was out with a score of 84 after 11.1 overs.
In these conditions it was going very well to win the match.
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Lol, how much did he score in that?
32 of 28, another pathetic innings, but actually should count amongst one of his best in this tournaments considering others are single digit scores.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
It seems some fans are still finding it hard that an out of form Babar took Pakistan to the final of this T20 world cup. :inti
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It seems you are dreaming still about having Ferrari one day but maruti 800 is only your fate, Keep boasting how maruti is better than ferrari,because it can run everwhere and everyone can have it and we can modify lt like ferrari. I hope kohli retires soon he become nightmare of generations.
 
It's embarrassing that this thread still exists. Loss of form not withstanding there is no comparison between Babar and that pretender Rahul. Out and out Minno basher Rahul ticked off a lot of fans in this world cup with his customary first over maidens and then those limp timid dismissals behind the wicket or bowled. This mental midget shouldn't be part of T20Is for a while. Need youngsters that can go for the kill from the first over. And there are a few that can take his place already.
 
Rahul should play only in IPL and Test Matches. IPL for financial benefit. I think BCCI and management should make a strict call towards this seniority culture. All these seniors should make whatever money (and fame) they want through IPL and leave international cricket aside. If IPL is bigger than International Cricket (as some claim), then why should they worry about getting selected to national side? IPL should be self-sustainable for players (they can take a cue from ABD who is so popular in RCB, Bangalore & even India in spite of retirement from his national side!)

So some of these Indian Players should not bother about international cricket and concentrate fully on IPL. The competition is different in IPL and even the model/pressure-level is different. It is high time IPL is utilized properly and doesn't affect international cricket (players getting selected based on IPL - Karthik, Rahul, etc, should stop! Only youngsters/uncapped players should be considered from IPL).

This will also stop some of these hardcore patriotic Indian fans hating and blaming IPL for every debacle in international cricket! Rahul is the best example of the worst utilization of IPL...!

As far Babar, it is left to Pakistanis to see what's going wrong with him in Pakistan cricket! This whole concept of comparing Indian players with Pakistani counterparts is absurd, because the issues in Indian Cricket (with IPL) is completely different to that of Pakistan!
 
Babar inspite of going through his worst phase as a T20 batsman still stood up and played a match-winning knock in the semis.

Rahul bottled it as usual.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Lol, how much did he score in that?
32 of 28, another pathetic innings, but actually should count amongst one of his best in this tournaments considering others are single digit scores.
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I am hoping you will understand cricket any day soon. How much did score Ben Stokes yesterday? 52 from 49.
It's all about the situation and team needs. Babar was batting very well and we were going towards a winning total of 160/170.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Mediocre from both. KL Rahul is the ultimate mental midget. Babar's issue is not mental. More of a skill issue. Seen him miss out on several juicy deliveries. He relies purely on placement. If placement is missing he has nowhere to run. He has no concept of playing up and over.
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Babar's issue is not skill. He would have dispatched most of these deliveries to the boundary. Admittedly not as many as Buttler but not as few as he did this time around.

Babar's issue is bad form. He is in bad form for some time. Maybe captaincy is affecting his batting too.

This is unlike KL Rahul whose issue, as far as I can tell, is mental toughness on big occasions.

Babar was in the team of the tournament at the last World T20.
 
The difference between both of them is clearly apparent now. While Babar is a specialist batsman currently struggling for form, Rahul is nothing more than a lassi maker.
 
Talent:
Rahul > babar
Everything else,
Babar > Rahul
Rahul is finished. His mental weakness has drowned his talent.
 
Shreyas Iyer would be like wish my thread vs Babar would have gone to even half of these many pages..
 
That this comparison is even made is an insult to Babar Azam. KL Rahul is the worst player to have come out of India in the past 10 years. Mental midget of the highest grade. An extremely selfish player and scores once in a blue moon. He has lived on this "potential" tag for the last 10 years. Dont think I have ever seen someone have that tag for that long.. Biggest conman of recent times and he is now the captain of India- unbelievable. Babar's thirst for runs is incredible.
 
what an insult for Babar that he was compared to this walking wicket.
 
Anyways, it's a rare example of an upcoming young Indian batsman who was hyped to be extremely talented, proving with time to be inferior to a young Pakistani batsman. And that itself speaks volumes about how pathetic Rahul has been.
 
Hitman said:
Anyways, it's a rare example of an upcoming young Indian batsman who was hyped to be extremely talented, proving with time to be inferior to a young Pakistani batsman. And that itself speaks volumes about how pathetic Rahul has been.
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Or maybe Babar is just really good.
 
Hextro said:
Or maybe Babar is just really good.
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Yes, he is good. I'll never deny that. He has been a consistent performer so far in his career. Comparing him with Rahul doesn't make any sense now as Rahul has proven to be no good. But he is definitely not as good as most Pakistani fans believe him to be.
 
Hitman said:
Yes, he is good. I'll never deny that. He has been a consistent performer so far in his career. Comparing him with Rahul doesn't make any sense now as Rahul has proven to be no good. But he is definitely not as good as most Pakistani fans believe him to be.
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KL has never been better than Babar as an all-format international batsman, the sole reason why this Babar v KL discussion has lasted so long is because people want to undermine Babar as a batsman.

Hitman said:
Anyways, it's a rare example of an upcoming young Indian batsman who was hyped to be extremely talented, proving with time to be inferior to a young Pakistani batsman. And that itself speaks volumes about how pathetic Rahul has been.
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Take a look at the highlighted part. Babar is ranked top 5 in every format(#1 in ODIs by a 100+ point margin), what you are saying is that KL has been pathetic because he has not exceeded Babar. Surely you guys don't expect almost every top order Indian batsman post-Kohli to hog the top rankings in every format.

Again, I'll reiterate that this discussion has been more about people undermining Babar than them liking KL.

"speaks volumes about" lol.

KL isn't even that bad of a batsman because if he was, he would've been dropped by now, as soon as he recovers from his injury he'll be back in India's XI, I guarantee it.
 
Hitman said:
But he is definitely not as good as most Pakistani fans believe him to be.
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1200 runs in 9 tests last year, not sure what you would like from him but let's be honest here, achieving far less would get far more plaudits if he was a big three (esp indian) batsman.
 
ElRaja said:
1200 runs in 9 tests last year, not sure what you would like from him but let's be honest here, achieving far less would get far more plaudits if he was a big three (esp indian) batsman.
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Not really.

Mayank Agarwal averaged something like 70+ in the 2019 season and was raking up double hundreds but found himself out of the side a few months later. Nobody overhyped him despite his knocks usually ending up on the winning side unlike Babar.

Now I'm not saying Babar is at Mayank 's level but it's laughable to see people say he isn't hyped because he plays for a relatively smaller team. He isn't hyped because his knocks in Test cricket are very rarely match winning. And also he always gets outshone comfortably by a foreign batter (Khawaja, Brook, Duckett, Latham etc)..
 
Mesozoic said:
Not really.

Mayank Agarwal averaged something like 70+ in the 2019 season and was raking up double hundreds but found himself out of the side a few months later. Nobody overhyped him despite his knocks usually ending up on the winning side unlike Babar.

Now I'm not saying Babar is at Mayank 's level but it's laughable to see people say he isn't hyped because he plays for a relatively smaller team. He isn't hyped because his knocks in Test cricket are very rarely match winning. And also he always gets outshone comfortably by a foreign batter (Khawaja, Brook, Duckett, Latham etc)..
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silly comparison, mayank had a handful of decent tests and then got dropped cos he was averaging 25 away. there was tonnes of pak fans who complained when babar didnt produce anything in his first 20 tests, no one was hyping babar back then. mickey arhtur got a tonne of flak for persisting with him.

pakistan are a pretty poor test team who lose cos they cant take 20 wickets, has much less to do with babars batting, his captaincy yes, his batting no.
 
ElRaja said:
silly comparison, mayank had a handful of decent tests and then got dropped cos he was averaging 25 away. there was tonnes of pak fans who complained when babar didnt produce anything in his first 20 tests, no one was hyping babar back then. mickey arhtur got a tonne of flak for persisting with him.

pakistan are a pretty poor test team who lose cos they cant take 20 wickets, has much less to do with babars batting, his captaincy yes, his batting no.
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As I said, I'm not comparing Mayank with Babar. I'm just saying that scoring a load of runs over a period of time doesn't get the player to be hyped just because he's playing for a big 3 nation. As that was what you stated in the previous post.

He's a great player no doubt and is miles better than KL Rahul but to say he doesn't get the hype because he plays for Pakistan is just plain stupidity. All the ex-players, experts and fans acknowledge his quality but pak fans overhype him beyond his abilities and want everyone to do the same , which usually ends up disappointing them when it doesn't happen.
 
It's clear that we should consider closing this discussion because one of the batsmen in question has firmly established himself in the middle order for the Indian cricket team and has been instrumental in securing victories for his country. On the other hand, Babar Azam is primarily a top-order batsman. When it comes to determining who should be regarded as the better batsman, it's essential to focus on their contributions to winning the World Cup for their respective nations. In essence, the player who plays a crucial role in bringing home the World Cup glory for their team should be given the edge in this comparison.
 
Babar Azam - Has proven his consistency

Rahul : Impact player with a higher ceiling. When he’s on fire, he makes even Gill, Kohli look inferior batters.
 
Having said that, let my raise my hand and admit defeat as a Bharatiya.

This thread was created in 2016, and since then Babar Azam has clearly been the far bigger achiever.

While we were never wrong about our opinion on Rahul’s talent, he has been a massive underachiever compared to Babar.
 
K L Rahul misunderstood his own capacity and continued opening when he was better as a middle-order batsman.

His batting 4/5 record is impressive

32 innings 1385 runs 57.70 avge. 93.58 SR 3 centuries.

One of the marked improvements as MO batsman is his six-hitting. He has hit 39 sixes in 32 innings.
 
I think comparing Babar and Rahul is not fair. Both have their own numbers to play. Comparing the No. 3 batsman with another one sounds like a competition.
 
347 runs for Rahul at average 67, SR 93

320 runs for Babar at average 40, SR 82
 
This World Cup so far -

Babar Azam - 9 (innings); Runs - 320; Ave - 40; SR - 82.90; 100's - 0; 50's - 4

K.L. Rahul - 8 (innings); Runs- 347; Ave - 69.40; SR - 93.53; 100's - 1; 50's - 1
 
Hitman said:
This World Cup so far -

Babar Azam - 9 (innings); Runs - 320; Ave - 40; SR - 82.90; 100's - 0; 50's - 4

K.L. Rahul - 8 (innings); Runs- 347; Ave - 69.40; SR - 93.53; 100's - 1; 50's - 1
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Mr no 1 can't even be in the top 5 run scorers of the cup while goat kohli is always in the top run getters for world cups.
 
mominsaigol said:
Mr no 1 can't even be in the top 5 run scorers of the cup while goat kohli is always in the top run getters for world cups.
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He is No.1 against second string teams. The moment he comes up against full strength sides, we have seen what he is capable of.
 
Hitman said:
He is No.1 against second string teams. The moment he comes up against full strength sides, we have seen what he is capable of.
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Everyone bashes and bullies 2nd string 😂😂. Babar can't even function against nedtherlands cause their bare bones bowlers.

He needs absolute trash bowling to function such as Steve Smith, Warner bowling to him.

The guy was letting fakhar do everything in the NZ game. He didn't start attacking until sodhi and Mitchell came to bowl, 2 bowlers who wouldn't even qualify for nedtherlands c string lol.

Mitchell isn't even a bowler, but he's a gun batsmen
 
Both are playing boxing day test at the same time in different countries away from home .KL scored a hundred on a very difficult surface while Babar scored only 1 runs.
KL haa scored more test century in SENA countries than Babar Azam
 
MenInG said:
Seems some of us have forgotten the art of analysis?

All I see are one-liners and nothing more - fit for memes but not for our forums.

Let's improve please.
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I am a man who speaks volumes in short sentences. That’s my art. That’s my power. It’s a gift. I can’t help it.
 
Rana said:
I am a man who speaks volumes in short sentences. That’s my art. That’s my power. It’s a gift. I can’t help it.
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No your volumes are good for memes bro

This is PakPassion.
 
Babar needs to start scoring big tons outside the roads of Pakistan. So far he has 1 or 2 ton outside of Pakistan. Pretty much a footnote when playing away and already 50 plus tests.

Rahul has scored 7 tons outside of home. [ 1in Aus, 2 in SA, 2 in Eng, 1 in WI, 1 in SL ]

Babar's goal should be to at least score more away tons than Rahul. Rahul is not some great batsman so it should put things in perspective. He needs to score heavily in few away series against top 4-5 teams. That's how fans remember you.
 
Buffet said:
Time is running out for him. 30 years old and 50 plus tests.
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Says who? He has conquered ODIs and mastered T20s, the two biggest and most popular cricket formats today.

He will catch up in test cricket during the latter years of his career. He has at least 6-7 years left at the highest level but probably closer to ten.
 
Mamoon said:
This Rahul century is bigger than Babar’s entire Test career so far.

@Mobashir @heddie19 @Bilal7
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What century?

Babar is on track to surpass Kohli and you're comparing him to a random wicket-keeper.

Like Kohli, Babar's best formats are ODIs and T20s. Kohli will never be considered a great test player given his career is pretty much done but Babar still has 8-10 years to start focusing on test cricket.
 
Bilal7 said:
What century?

Babar is on track to surpass Kohli and you're comparing him to a random wicket-keeper.

Like Kohli, Babar's best formats are ODIs and T20s. Kohli will never be considered a great test player given his career is pretty much done but Babar still has 8-10 years to start focusing on test cricket.
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Babar is nobody compares to king Kohli .
 
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