"Bangladesh are happy to play T20Is in Pakistan but won't play 2 Tests here" : Wasim Khan

[RedwoodOriginal]

Fairly obvious that Bangladesh is not getting permission from its overlords in Delhi. There is absolutely no other reason for them to drag this out like this. Their players made themselves available for the PSL draft and their U-16 and Women's teams have already toured Pakistan.

PCB should stand its ground and not cede to their demand of a neutral venue. It will by all means be a step backward in bringing full-scale international cricket back to Pakistan.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Bangladesh are perfectly capable of coming to Pakistan and humiliating us in both Tests and T20s. I would advise our fans to keep their shallow arrogance in check.

Like they were going to in the World Cup?

If you said this for ODIs a part of me would have thought maybe, even after the humiliation Bangladesh were handed in the WC. Even in T20s they can spring a surprise. But in Tests Bangladesh is a minnow that Pakistan can defeat on their worst five days.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

It should be noted that BCB hasnt said anything official yet. My hope is they are trying to get Pakistan to host the Tests in UAE, and if not, will agree to play in PAK pending gov clearance (which should be given since youth and women's teams were given clearance). No harm in that, but BCB really is not in a position tombe forfeiting points, especially in a series in which they can compete and possibly even win a Test.

 

[pakistanisgreat]

I think if they are willing to come for T20 then invite them.

 

[Shazzam]

I am pretty sure they will bring there Test team. They kinda have too.

A bit off topic but what does SENA mean?

 

[Ronaldo7]

I am pretty sure they will bring there Test team. They kinda have too.

A bit off topic but what does SENA mean?

South Africa
England
New Zealand
Australia

These are the countries where South Asians believe where the most competition is at. So if you can perform well in these countries then you're considered a great player.

 

[Shazzam]

South Africa
England
New Zealand
Australia

These are the countries where South Asians believe where the most competition is at. So if you can perform well in these countries then you're considered a great player.

Ah thank you appreciate it.

 

[MenInG]

Like they were going to in the World Cup?

If you said this for ODIs a part of me would have thought maybe, even after the humiliation Bangladesh were handed in the WC. Even in T20s they can spring a surprise. But in Tests Bangladesh is a minnow that Pakistan can defeat on their worst five days.

We have some hysteric reactions every time name Pakistan is mentioned so I wouldn't pay attention to such pronouncements.

Bangladesh are a good side but not that capable in Tests.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Kyon Bhai, do we always want to be Board that has no respect or saying left in the cricketing world body. I am all up for BD to refuse but 1 thing must stands now, we are not going to play any of our home series on neutral grounds. We cant let Bangladesh dictate us. They should remember what we did for them in ICC.

Bhai we need to think a out playing cricket and about the emotional crap , what if other countries refuse to tour pakistan too. Then we will be left with 4 test matches a year.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

It should be noted that BCB hasnt said anything official yet. My hope is they are trying to get Pakistan to host the Tests in UAE, and if not, will agree to play in PAK pending gov clearance (which should be given since youth and women's teams were given clearance). No harm in that, but BCB really is not in a position tombe forfeiting points, especially in a series in which they can compete and possibly even win a Test.

The BCB has spoken. They are looking to the ICC for advisement. Not really sure what the ICC can do here. They will just kick it back to BCB and say "Its up to you if you want to tour or not, if the series gets cancelled, you will forfeit your points."

It looks increasingly likely that BCB may be wasting time. Does that mean they will cancel the series at the last minute? I really hope they aren't that petty.

 

[Ronaldo7]

The BCB has spoken. They are looking to the ICC for advisement. Not really sure what the ICC can do here. They will just kick it back to BCB and say "Its up to you if you want to tour or not, if the series gets cancelled, you will forfeit your points."

It looks increasingly likely that BCB may be wasting time. Does that mean they will cancel the series at the last minute? I really hope they aren't that petty.

They can't just cancel a WTC series. Either forfeit the series and give us the points or come to Pakistan.

 

[moghul]

The BCB has spoken. They are looking to the ICC for advisement. Not really sure what the ICC can do here. They will just kick it back to BCB and say "Its up to you if you want to tour or not, if the series gets cancelled, you will forfeit your points."

It looks increasingly likely that BCB may be wasting time. Does that mean they will cancel the series at the last minute? I really hope they aren't that petty.

BCB should talk to BCCI, not ICC, be real.

 

[MenInG]

Bangladesh cricket team’s upcoming Pakistan tour is still hanging in the balance as the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) has asked the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to host the two-match Test series in a neutral venue for security concerns.

BCB Chief Executive Officer Nizam Uddin Chowdhury told the media that the PCB is yet to come up with a reply to this end.

BCB, however, agreed to play a three-match T20I series in Pakistan on conditions that all the games will be hosted in a single venue.

“We’re in regular contact with the PCB. We’ve already told it that we aren’t willing to stay in Pakistan for a long time. So, we agreed to play only three T20Is in Pakistan,” Nizam Uddin told the media on Saturday.

“We told the PCB to host the Test series in a neutral venue. Some may say that if we can play the T20I series in Pakistan, then why not the Tests. I think the security consultants know the differences between playing limited over cricket and longer version cricket amid security concerns,” he added.

If the Bangladesh team finally go to Pakistan, the movement of players will be limited to certain areas, which is playing a big role before reaching a decision about this tour.

Bangladesh national women’s team and an age-level team toured Pakistan this year.

Before those tours, a security team visited Pakistan and submitted positive reports to the government. Based on that reports, the government agreed to send the teams to Pakistan.

“Security is the main priority for us. You might have already known that a government delegation has toured Pakistan, and we received a report from them. We’re also in regular contact with the Bangladesh High Commission in Pakistan. At the same time, we’ll take the opinions of the ICC regarding the security concerns about this tour,” Nizam Uddin further said.

Meanwhile, Test cricket has finally returned to Pakistan recently with the tour of Sri Lanka. Back in 2009, Test cricket exiled from Pakistan for a decade. However, despite Sri Lanka agreed to play in Pakistan, most of the Test-playing countries are reluctant to go to Pakistan to play Test cricket.

The Pakistan government and PCB together are trying to bring the Test cricket back to the country with the participation of all the countries. To make this effort impetuous, Marylebone Cricket Club (MCC) is scheduled to tour Pakistan in February 2020 under the captaincy of former Sri Lankan captain Kumar Sangakkara.

http://unb.com.bd/category/Sports/bangladesh-asks-pcb-to-host-tests-in-neutral-venue/38894

 

[MenInG]

The Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) is under hot waters after the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) ‘s stance regarding the Bangladesh cricket team’s visit to Pakistan.

According to the sources, the PCB wrote a letter to the BCB for not making a full visit, and the letter has taken a very strong stand as Bangladesh has no strong arguments to response to the position of the Pakistani board.

The Bangladesh Board has not yet responded to the letter to PCB. The letter states that a complete visit to Bangladesh would be in violation of the approved security plan.

Pakistan have asked BCB that If two teams from Bangladesh can come to Pakistan, why not the senior team? However, PCB expects a full tour of the Bangladesh cricket team for Pakistan. This year, two teams from Bangladesh have toured Pakistan. Under-16 and the women’s teams played their matches.

It may be recalled that recently the BCB had expressed its desire to play the T20 series only on the tour of Pakistan,on which Pakistan is deeply concerned and disturbed.

https://arysports.tv/pcb-stands-firm-on-bangladesh-tour-of-pakistan/

 

[gazza619]

I say if they don't send test team then cancel the tour.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They can't just cancel a WTC series. Either forfeit the series and give us the points or come to Pakistan.

Will all teams come to Pakistan or forfeit points?

If not, why only BD?

 

[Ronaldo7]

Will all teams come to Pakistan or forfeit points?

If not, why only BD?

Because Pakistan will agree to play in the UAE against the top teams if they don't want to play in Pakistan.
But they'll not be willing to do this against Bangladesh.

It's all about brand value and image.

Bangladesh are minnows in test cricket so we don't rate them as much as the top teams and don't respect them as much either.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Because Pakistan will agree to play in the UAE against the top teams if they don't want to play in Pakistan.
But they'll not be willing to do this against Bangladesh.

It's all about brand value and image.

Bangladesh are minnows in test cricket so we don't rate them as much as the top teams and don't respect them as much either.

Security isnt decided by what pcb values and who they respect.

Either ICC has to force every board to play in Pakistan or everyone gets the neutral venue choice. Its not PCB's decision if forfeiture of points will happen, it will be ICC's.

 

[ahsan17]

Security isnt decided by what pcb values and who they respect.

Either ICC has to force every board to play in Pakistan or everyone gets the neutral venue choice. Its not PCB's decision if forfeiture of points will happen, it will be ICC's.

I think you need to look beyond the one-dimensional view that you have posting for months and take into account how things are evolving and changing, and based on the context. ICC will push them hard to tour Pakistan without explicitly forcing them. A certain momentum is building and ICC will not want that to go away. If BD doesn't tour for tests, it will give other boards excuses not to not tour. There are talks of SA touring in March or April. BD touring for tests will help in ensuring that happens. It might still happen even if BD doesn't tour for tests though, as they will likely tour for T20s regardless.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I think you need to look beyond the one-dimensional view that you have posting for months and take into account how things are evolving and changing, and based on the context. ICC will push them hard to tour Pakistan without explicitly forcing them. A certain momentum is building and ICC will not want that to go away. If BD doesn't tour for tests, it will give other boards excuses not to not tour. There are talks of SA touring in March or April. BD touring for tests will help in ensuring that happens. It might still happen even if BD doesn't tour for tests though, as they will likely tour for T20s regardless.

See i have only one thing to say, either ICC tells everyone, tour pakistan or lose points. Or it gives everyone the choice of choosing between going to Pakistan or playing at neutral venue.

Either way is fine,as long as ICC sticks to it.

 

[ahsan17]

See i have only one thing to say, either ICC tells everyone, tour pakistan or lose points. Or it gives everyone the choice of choosing between going to Pakistan or playing at neutral venue.

Either way is fine,as long as ICC sticks to it.

It might not come to that.

Another possibility is that they don't play tests in February but instead only play T20s. Then with the entire PSL happening in Pakistan, and possibly SA touring for T20s in March/April, it becomes hard for them to not play the tests in Pakistan in April or sometime around that time. They will likely end up playing tests in Pakistan. This is similar to what PCB did with SLC. With that, they can build significant confidence for the SENA teams and then try to figure out those tours as they approach.

 

[Hawkeye]

It might not come to that.

Another possibility is that they don't play tests in February but instead only play T20s. Then with the entire PSL happening in Pakistan, and possibly SA touring for T20s in March/April, it becomes hard for them to not play the tests in Pakistan in April or sometime around that time. They will likely end up playing tests in Pakistan. This is similar to what PCB did with SLC. With that, they can build significant confidence for the SENA teams and then try to figure out those tours as they approach.

That is a good strategy.

PCB needs to stay a bit diplomatic and do this.

 

[ahsan17]

That is a good strategy.

PCB needs to stay a bit diplomatic and do this.

Their argument for not playing tests right now is that it's higher risk than playing T20s. PSL will be 34 matches, with a lot more players being involved. By their logic, PSL is much higher risk than the 2 tests. If PCB pulls off PSL successfully, there's not much left for BCB to argue about.

 

[MenInG]

Misbah not happy in his remarks to the press

"It will be a huge disappointment for us if Bangladesh don't come to Pakistan; There is no excuse to not come to Pakistan and the security issue seems to be just an excuse in my view"

"You are having international tours happening in Pakistan, other teams are coming; You [Bangladesh] are coming for T20Is but refusing to come for Tests seems to be just an excuse as I cannot see any other reason for this"

 

[light]

It might not come to that.

Another possibility is that they don't play tests in February but instead only play T20s. Then with the entire PSL happening in Pakistan, and possibly SA touring for T20s in March/April, it becomes hard for them to not play the tests in Pakistan in April or sometime around that time. They will likely end up playing tests in Pakistan. This is similar to what PCB did with SLC. With that, they can build significant confidence for the SENA teams and then try to figure out those tours as they approach.

Atleast someone here is speaking with logic. Its better to play the wait game then no game. Why put the whole tour at jepordy, play out the T20, once that's done, you have forever secured them for touring in the longer run. Doesn't matter if they are a strong/weak team, goal is to continue tour, not stay stagnant.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

We have some hysteric reactions every time name Pakistan is mentioned so I wouldn't pay attention to such pronouncements.

Bangladesh are a good side but not that capable in Tests.

I don't understand the point of projecting our side as the worst team in the world. Yes we are not great but we are not that bad either. It's intellectually dishonest to be an avid watcher of cricket and come up with such hyperbolic statements

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

It might not come to that.

Another possibility is that they don't play tests in February but instead only play T20s. Then with the entire PSL happening in Pakistan, and possibly SA touring for T20s in March/April, it becomes hard for them to not play the tests in Pakistan in April or sometime around that time. They will likely end up playing tests in Pakistan. This is similar to what PCB did with SLC. With that, they can build significant confidence for the SENA teams and then try to figure out those tours as they approach.

This will happen most probably
Because Pakistan have no series after PSL till July so they can easily schedule during IPL or immediately after it

 

[Abid Z]

I honestly think this is such a farce. If Bangladesh have agreed to t20’s then be diplomatic and play them in January. Heaven know right now the pcb needs friends and any kind of cricket.

If tests are contentious then respect their wishes. Who knows after playing t20s and psl the atmosphere will be more congenial and they will agree to a full test series later in the year. We’ve waited 10 years another 6 months or so is nothing. From what we can see we still have some way to go to improve our domestic facilities and crowds.

We can’t expect to use Bangladesh to showcase our security credentials. They should speak for themselves.

 

[moghul]

I honestly think this is such a farce. If Bangladesh have agreed to t20’s then be diplomatic and play them in January. Heaven know right now the pcb needs friends and any kind of cricket.

If tests are contentious then respect their wishes. Who knows after playing t20s and psl the atmosphere will be more congenial and they will agree to a full test series later in the year. We’ve waited 10 years another 6 months or so is nothing. From what we can see we still have some way to go to improve our domestic facilities and crowds.

We can’t expect to use Bangladesh to showcase our security credentials. They should speak for themselves.

PCB needs friends, but not like BCB, who would betray them at the crucial time. With test cricket returning to Pakistan, BCB trying to ( unsuccessfully ) create doubt to the other teams about the security situation in Pakistan. There is always a limit, now its time for PCB to take a stand and re-evaluate their relation with this low profile test team which lost to Afghanistan in their own backyard. We can survive without BCB.

With return of test cricket in Pakistan, PCB will a stronger board and BCB people are just isolating themselves, they can;t rely on ICCB for everything.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

I honestly think this is such a farce. If Bangladesh have agreed to t20’s then be diplomatic and play them in January. Heaven know right now the pcb needs friends and any kind of cricket.

If tests are contentious then respect their wishes. Who knows after playing t20s and psl the atmosphere will be more congenial and they will agree to a full test series later in the year. We’ve waited 10 years another 6 months or so is nothing. From what we can see we still have some way to go to improve our domestic facilities and crowds.

We can’t expect to use Bangladesh to showcase our security credentials. They should speak for themselves.

Friends like BCB?

No thanks LOL

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Friends like BCB?

No thanks LOL

Petulant and immature is what sums up BCB.

 

[Usman Chadda]

I honestly think this is such a farce. If Bangladesh have agreed to t20’s then be diplomatic and play them in January. Heaven know right now the pcb needs friends and any kind of cricket.

If tests are contentious then respect their wishes. Who knows after playing t20s and psl the atmosphere will be more congenial and they will agree to a full test series later in the year. We’ve waited 10 years another 6 months or so is nothing. From what we can see we still have some way to go to improve our domestic facilities and crowds.

We can’t expect to use Bangladesh to showcase our security credentials. They should speak for themselves.

Hosting Bangladesh successfully won't convince SENA teams to tour Pakistan. PCB can agree on the T20s first out of mutual respect/courtesy, but this dramaybaazi should not stretch too long as it's only Bangladesh at the end of the day.

With all due respect ofcourse.

 

[Abid Z]

PCB needs friends, but not like BCB, who would betray them at the crucial time. With test cricket returning to Pakistan, BCB trying to ( unsuccessfully ) create doubt to the other teams about the security situation in Pakistan. There is always a limit, now its time for PCB to take a stand and re-evaluate their relation with this low profile test team which lost to Afghanistan in their own backyard. We can survive without BCB.

With return of test cricket in Pakistan, PCB will a stronger board and BCB people are just isolating themselves, they can;t rely on ICCB for everything.

I don’t think it’s a conspiracy. I just genuinely think they need more time. T20’s are fine for now. (Or will have to do) it’s a small step in the right direction.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Even Ireland and Afghanistan seem more relevant test and international teams now then bangladesh. BCB need to stop trying to think they are helping the BCCI by not touring pakistan. Indian cricket dont care for bangladesh, they see Afghanistan as a more relevant team.

BCB have no power to throw around.