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PALONGKHALI, Bangladesh: Bangladesh is planning to introduce voluntary sterilisation in its overcrowded Rohingya camps, where nearly a million refugees are fighting for space, after efforts to encourage birth control failed.

More than 600,000 Rohingya have arrived in Bangladesh since a military crackdown in neighbouring Myanmar in August triggered an exodus, straining resources in the impoverished country.

The latest arrivals have joined hundreds of thousands of Rohingya refugees who fled in earlier waves from Myanmar's Rakhine state, where the stateless Muslim minority has endured decades of persecution.

Most live in desperate conditions with limited access to food, sanitation or health facilities and local officials fear a lack of family planning could stretch resources even further.

Pintu Kanti Bhattacharjee, who heads the family planning service in the district of Cox's Bazar where the camps are based, said there was little awareness of birth control among the Rohingya.

"The whole community has been deliberately left behind," he told AFP, citing a lack of education in Myanmar, where the Rohingya are viewed as illegal immigrants and denied access to many services.

Bhattacharjee said large families were the norm in the camps, where some parents had up to 19 children and many Rohingya men have more than one wife.

District family planning authorities have launched a drive to provide contraception, but say they have so far managed to distribute just 549 packets of condoms among the refugees, who are reluctant to use them.

They have asked the government to approve a plan to launch vasectomies for Rohingya men and tubectomies for women, Bhattacharjee told AFP.
But they are likely to face an uphill struggle.

Many of the refugees told AFP they believed a large family would help them survive in the camps, where access to food and water remains a daily battle and children are often sent out to fetch and carry supplies.

Others had been told contraception was against the tenets of Islam.

Farhana Sultana, a family planning volunteer who works with Rohingya refugees in the camps, said many of the women she spoke to believed birth control was a sin.

"In Rakhine they did not go to family planning clinics, fearing the Myanmar authorities would give medicine that harms them or their children," Sultana said.

Volunteers said they struggled to sell the benefits of birth control to Rohingya women, most of whom came to them for advice on pregnancy complications or help with newborns.

Sabura, a mother of seven, said her husband believed the couple could support a large family.

"I spoke to my husband about birth control measures. But he is not convinced. He was given two condoms but he did not use them," she told AFP.

"My husband said we need more children as we have land and property (in Rakhine). We don't have to worry to feed them," she said.


POPULATION CONTROL

Bangladesh has for years run a successful domestic sterilisation programme, offering 2,300 taka (US$28) and a traditional lungi garment to each man who agrees to undergo the procedure.

Every month 250 people undergo sterilisation in the border town of Cox's Bazar.
But performing the permanent procedure on non-Bangladeshi nationals requires final approval from a committee headed by the health minister.

The idea is particularly contentious given the sensitivity of the issue in Myanmar. The widespread perception that the Rohingya population is mushrooming is a key source of the tensions that have spiralled in recent months.

No official data is available on birth rates among the Rohingya, who are excluded from the census in Myanmar.

But many of the ethnic Rakhine Buddhists accused of taking part in attacks on Rohingya villages that have driven hundreds of thousands into Bangladesh say they fear being displaced by the Muslim minority.

The Rohingya face official restrictions on the number of children they can have in Myanmar, although this has not been widely enforced.

Rights activists working in the camps in Bangladesh said some believed pregnancy provided protection against rape or other attacks in Myanmar, where the military has been accused of sexual violence against Rohingya women and girls.
"Some of them told us that if a woman was pregnant, she had less chance of being targeted by the military or attackers."

Bangladesh officials say some 20,000 Rohingya women are pregnant and 600 have given birth since arriving in Bangladesh, though this may be an underestimate as many births take place with no formal medical help.

"Sterilisation of the males is the best way to control the population," said Bhattacharjee.

"If a man is sterilised, he cannot father a child even if he marries four or five times."

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...ilisation-to-curb-rohingya-population-9352824

Looks like they're doing a Sanjay Gandhi. Rationale being that they might as well prefer to stay in Bangladesh and be subject to such measures rather than be in Mynamar where the army is having a free for all.
 
Looks like they're doing a Sanjay Gandhi. Rationale being that they might as well prefer to stay in Bangladesh and be subject to such measures rather than be in Mynamar where the army is having a free for all.

Deliberate lies or just ignorance from you? Did you miss the phrase "voluntary sterilisation"?
 
Deliberate lies or just ignorance from you? Did you miss the phrase "voluntary sterilisation"?

Did you know that Sanjay Gandhi's measures were supposedly 'voluntary' too? You have to learn to read beyond the PR on issues like these.
 
Did you know that Sanjay Gandhi's measures were supposedly 'voluntary' too? You have to learn to read beyond the PR on issues like these.

Sanjay gandhi's or Indira gandhi?
 
Sanjay gandhi's or Indira gandhi?

Sanjay Gandhi was Indira Gandhi's son, so both if you like.

Him dying in a plane crash was a significant point in Indian history - we would be very different if those two continued to swing their wrecking ball on our society and democracy for a few more years. Needless to say, this was the 1980s so the economy was in the pits too.
 
Looks like they're doing a Sanjay Gandhi. Rationale being that they might as well prefer to stay in Bangladesh and be subject to such measures rather than be in Mynamar where the army is having a free for all.

Well, if it comes to a choice between being sterilised in Bangladesh or raped and murdered in Myanmar, I guess they would take that choice. I never realised Bangladesh had taken 600,000 refugees. Maybe if those refugees were split evenly with the Bengal on the other side of the fence, then it would ease the burden?
 
Well, if it comes to a choice between being sterilised in Bangladesh or raped and murdered in Myanmar, I guess they would take that choice. I never realised Bangladesh had taken 600,000 refugees. Maybe if those refugees were split evenly with the Bengal on the other side of the fence, then it would ease the burden?

No thank you.My state has had enough refugees.
 
Rohingya men should take pity on their women and stop making them pregnant.

Most Rohingyas look impoverished and malnourished. What future will they give their kids. As expected, they think that contraception is a sin. You need a lot of luck with that kind of backward thinking.

I used to believe that India should let these people in. But with this kind of garbage attitude, India will be even more overpopulated than ever before.

Keep Rohingyas away from india. We can let in educated folks who can contribute to thre society irrespective of race, religion, gender etc. Not the folks who will be a burden on the society.
 
Rohingya men should take pity on their women and stop making them pregnant.

Most Rohingyas look impoverished and malnourished. What future will they give their kids. As expected, they think that contraception is a sin. You need a lot of luck with that kind of backward thinking.

I used to believe that India should let these people in. But with this kind of garbage attitude, India will be even more overpopulated than ever before.

Keep Rohingyas away from india. We can let in educated folks who can contribute to thre society irrespective of race, religion, gender etc. Not the folks who will be a burden on the society.

This might be a good time to remind everyone that these people are refugees fleeing genocide, many of them having drowned or killed en route to safety. You don't want them in your country fine, but since it's Bangladesh that is taking on the burden, maybe the lectures would be better coming from them.
 
This might be a good time to remind everyone that these people are refugees fleeing genocide, many of them having drowned or killed en route to safety. You don't want them in your country fine, but since it's Bangladesh that is taking on the burden, maybe the lectures would be better coming from them.

There are 40000 of them in India also.
 
There's a better solution: Let them out of the refugee camps! These people aren't wild animals or criminals. If they're so concerned about tracking them down then they can give them IDs with chips in them, but confining them in "camps" is just inhumane.
 
This might be a good time to remind everyone that these people are refugees fleeing genocide, many of them having drowned or killed en route to safety. You don't want them in your country fine, but since it's Bangladesh that is taking on the burden, maybe the lectures would be better coming from them.
And by that same token unless you are ready to get them in your home in Birmingham, Luton or wherever you are put up, you shouldn't be asking the Bengalis to house them.
 
And by that same token unless you are ready to get them in your home in Birmingham, Luton or wherever you are put up, you shouldn't be asking the Bengalis to house them.


Luton and Birmingham has hosted many economic migrants from India down the years, I have no doubt they would find space for genuine refugees from any part of the globe.
 
Bangladesh is an ethnic state, their name literally translates to "Bengali country" therefore it would make sense for them to accept Rohingyas who are originally Bengalis. Maybe they can annex Indian Bengal if they run out of land.
 
Bangladesh is an ethnic state, their name literally translates to "Bengali country" therefore it would make sense for them to accept Rohingyas who are originally Bengalis. Maybe they can annex Indian Bengal if they run out of land.

Absolutely. Bangladesh needs new land because of climate change. They need to revive Bengal Sultanate, it used to cover modern day Bandladesh, Bengal In India and Arakan, place where Rohingya's come from.
 
United Bengal doesnot exist anymore.It has no relevance anymore.

You may have noted I used the past tense when I referred to what was once united Bengal, hence your clarification was unnecessary. That said, it should be said that the claim from Burma that the Rohingya are actually Bangladeshi is patently false, as when those generations migrated it was from a united Bengal as Bangladesh didn't exist at that time.
 
You may have noted I used the past tense when I referred to what was once united Bengal, hence your clarification was unnecessary. That said, it should be said that the claim from Burma that the Rohingya are actually Bangladeshi is patently false, as when those generations migrated it was from a united Bengal as Bangladesh didn't exist at that time.

So if united bengal doesnt exist where does the question of India taking any Rohingyas come from?
 
So if united bengal doesnt exist where does the question of India taking any Rohingyas come from?

From those who may raise the question as to where the Rohingyas should go if they are to return to where their ancestors originated as per wishes of Myanmar govt.
 
From those who may raise the question as to where the Rohingyas should go if they are to return to where their ancestors originated as per wishes of Myanmar govt.

Where should Rohingyas go is no concern of Indians.They are not Indians.End of.
 
Where should Rohingyas go is no concern of Indians.They are not Indians.End of.

I have no problem with that, but of course that is your opinion and not necessarily shared by all Indians. Unless of course you have some official capacity as a spokesman for India which we don't know about. Please share if that is the case so we may correct our understanding.
 
From those who may raise the question as to where the Rohingyas should go if they are to return to where their ancestors originated as per wishes of Myanmar govt.


Current day nations and boundaries are made for a reason and should be accepted.. Hypothetically let's say my ancestors used to rule over a portion of Lahore 1000 years ago doesn't mean I can lay claim to settling in Lahore.. Similarly Rohingya's have been in Myanmar for over 200-300 years, so that is their home and Myanmar government is wrong..

I don't understand why people are not asking Myanmar government here to stop the genocide rather everyone seems to have accepted or be scared of Myanmar government to speak against them.. The question of accepting refugees shouldn't exist as everyone should pressurise Myanmar to stop this madness.. Seeing how Myanmar government is close ally of china and china and Pakistan are brothers if any country actually cared for these people they would have stopped the genocide however every country looks after its own national interest like Pakistan and china above the interests of anyone else in this case Rohingya.

What I see here is no one really cares about these Rohingya's and even here on PP people are only using them to take potshots against other countries.. Pretty poor really if you can't do anything constructive better to keep quiet rather than use the helplessness of certain people to score some brownie points over a random Internet forum..
 
I have no problem with that, but of course that is your opinion and not necessarily shared by all Indians. Unless of course you have some official capacity as a spokesman for India which we don't know about. Please share if that is the case so we may correct our understanding.

I am not a spokesperson.But the Indian govt is and they have said that no Rohingyas will be allowed into India.
 
Luton and Birmingham has hosted many economic migrants from India down the years, I have no doubt they would find space for genuine refugees from any part of the globe.
And yet you have done nothing for your Rohingya Muslim brothers? Why not petition your local labour MP to help them? Am sure Corbyn would jump up at the opportunity of increasing his vote bank.
 
Current day nations and boundaries are made for a reason and should be accepted.. Hypothetically let's say my ancestors used to rule over a portion of Lahore 1000 years ago doesn't mean I can lay claim to settling in Lahore.. Similarly Rohingya's have been in Myanmar for over 200-300 years, so that is their home and Myanmar government is wrong..

I don't understand why people are not asking Myanmar government here to stop the genocide rather everyone seems to have accepted or be scared of Myanmar government to speak against them.. The question of accepting refugees shouldn't exist as everyone should pressurise Myanmar to stop this madness.. Seeing how Myanmar government is close ally of china and china and Pakistan are brothers if any country actually cared for these people they would have stopped the genocide however every country looks after its own national interest like Pakistan and china above the interests of anyone else in this case Rohingya.

What I see here is no one really cares about these Rohingya's and even here on PP people are only using them to take potshots against other countries.. Pretty poor really if you can't do anything constructive better to keep quiet rather than use the helplessness of certain people to score some brownie points over a random Internet forum..

Excellent post. I agree on all of those points.
 
And yet you have done nothing for your Rohingya Muslim brothers? Why not petition your local labour MP to help them? Am sure Corbyn would jump up at the opportunity of increasing his vote bank.

You are assuming all British Muslims subscribe to some sort of Muslim brotherhood code I take it? That isn't true, many Muslims are atheist, non-practising, agnostic, racist, and lots of other beliefs in between. It's quite surprising people who have been posting on here for some time are still ignorant on such matters.
 
You are assuming all British Muslims subscribe to some sort of Muslim brotherhood code I take it? That isn't true, many Muslims are atheist, non-practising, agnostic, racist, and lots of other beliefs in between. It's quite surprising people who have been posting on here for some time are still ignorant on such matters.

They could be, but I am talking about your keenness to help the Rohingyas. Why not take some concrete steps? Get them here
 
They could be, but I am talking about your keenness to help the Rohingyas. Why not take some concrete steps? Get them here

No, you specifically said "your Rohingya Muslim brothers" which suggests you think that we should base our concern for suffering people according to their religion, which I don't agree with.
 
No, you specifically said "your Rohingya Muslim brothers" which suggests you think that we should base our concern for suffering people according to their religion, which I don't agree with.

Which underlines I was talking about you and not all British Muslims. For your concerns, I don't see you fighting much for other persecuted communities, but your heart does seem to beat for the Rohingyas. Why not get them to the UK? Why stop at lip service?
 
Which underlines I was talking about you and not all British Muslims. For your concerns, I don't see you fighting much for other persecuted communities, but your heart does seem to beat for the Rohingyas. Why not get them to the UK? Why stop at lip service?

Because it's a stupid proposition which would have no chance of getting passed. It's that simple.
 
Current day nations and boundaries are made for a reason and should be accepted.. Hypothetically let's say my ancestors used to rule over a portion of Lahore 1000 years ago doesn't mean I can lay claim to settling in Lahore.. Similarly Rohingya's have been in Myanmar for over 200-300 years, so that is their home and Myanmar government is wrong..

I don't understand why people are not asking Myanmar government here to stop the genocide rather everyone seems to have accepted or be scared of Myanmar government to speak against them.. The question of accepting refugees shouldn't exist as everyone should pressurise Myanmar to stop this madness.. Seeing how Myanmar government is close ally of china and china and Pakistan are brothers if any country actually cared for these people they would have stopped the genocide however every country looks after its own national interest like Pakistan and china above the interests of anyone else in this case Rohingya.

What I see here is no one really cares about these Rohingya's and even here on PP people are only using them to take potshots against other countries.. Pretty poor really if you can't do anything constructive better to keep quiet rather than use the helplessness of certain people to score some brownie points over a random Internet forum..

True. Apart from ranting, nobody (including myself) is doing anything to alleviate their suffering. Some are just being blind/ignoring the fact that genocide is occuring in some part of the world and don't even feel the need to condemn it. It's OK, personal choices i guess.
 
Suggest dont get personal with each other.
 
True. Apart from ranting, nobody (including myself) is doing anything to alleviate their suffering. Some are just being blind/ignoring the fact that genocide is occuring in some part of the world and don't even feel the need to condemn it. It's OK, personal choices i guess.



Well I believe in karma so I don't believe it's ok for people to use someone else's suffering to score points or have enjoy.. If you don't feel anything best is to keep away from commenting, ultimately in today's world anything is possible and god forbid if you face such a situation and someone else uses you like a pawn to score brownie points on a Internet forum or make fun of your sufferings then you will realise how it feels..

The world is a cruel place and I hope one day everyone realises value of a human life..
 
It does not matter. The so called Muslim nations should have been queuing up to help them out. So much for Biradar Islami.

Agreed. All Islamic nations should take these refugees in their country.

Also, Rohingyas can do the jobs that Arabs don't want to do which is manual labor. Win win for both parties.
 
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