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Politics in South Asia often feels like monsoon weather. Thunder, crosswinds, sudden squalls. Then one morning the clouds part and the land looks calmer than anyone expected.

The recent election in Bangladesh is exactly that kind of clearing sky.

After years in which governance carried the weight of interim arrangements and political uncertainty, Dhaka now has an elected, accountable leadership with a public mandate. That single shift changes the geometry of diplomacy. Conversations stop being tentative and start becoming transactional, strategic, long term. And that is where India traditionally excels.

Because Delhi does not sprint. It plants trees.

Pipelines, rail links, power grids, trade corridors, student exchanges, development credit lines. These are not headline grabbing moves. They are slow bricks. Stack enough of them and you don’t just build influence, you build dependence, comfort, and trust.

And here is where the mirror turns toward Pakistan.

Islamabad’s regional playbook has often relied on something very different. Not foundations, but fractures.

Whenever there is instability, caretaker governments, protests, or political vacuum in a neighbouring state, Pakistan looks for short term tactical wins. Whisper campaigns. Strategic signalling. Security pressure. Symbolic alliances meant to needle India.

It is opportunistic geopolitics. Quick gains during chaos.

But chaos is a terrible long term partner.

Because the moment normalcy returns, those gains evaporate like puddles under the sun.

We’ve seen this pattern repeatedly:

• During uncertainty, Pakistan tries to insert itself
• Once an elected government stabilizes, priorities shift to trade, growth, and connectivity
• And those priorities naturally align more with India than with confrontation

Why?

Because Bangladesh’s objectives are economic and developmental. Jobs. Infrastructure. Energy security. Exports. Stability.

India offers roads and markets.

Pakistan often offers rivalry.

One builds prosperity.
The other exports tension.

For a country like Bangladesh, choosing sustained hostility toward India simply makes no economic sense. Geography alone makes that obvious. India surrounds it on three sides, is its largest trading partner, and provides critical transit and energy connectivity. You don’t fight the house that powers your lights and buys your goods.

Trying to “boss up” against India, as Pakistan often encourages smaller neighbors to do, is not a strategy. It’s self-sabotage.

It invites:

• trade disruptions
• capital flight
• security risks
• and unnecessary military anxieties

No emerging economy wants to spend political energy on that theatre.

They want growth curves, not gun smoke.

That’s why an elected government in Dhaka changes everything. Accountability brings realism. Realism brings pragmatism. Pragmatism brings India closer.

Now Delhi can negotiate multi-year projects with confidence:

Energy sharing
Cross-border logistics
Industrial corridors
Port access
Northeast connectivity
Digital and education partnerships

These are durable ties. The kind that survive elections, protests, even ideological differences.

Pakistan’s approach often seeks emotional alignment. India’s approach creates economic alignment.

And economics always wins in the long run.

So while Islamabad may celebrate brief moments when instability gives it visibility, history keeps delivering the same verdict: once democratic order returns, its leverage shrinks.

Because nations ultimately choose the partner that helps them grow, not the one that asks them to fight someone else’s battles.

Bangladesh’s election is not just a domestic milestone. It is a regional signal.

Stability favors builders over disruptors.

And in South Asia’s slow, patient chessboard, the side that invests for decades usually walks away with the board.
 
Why another thread on Bangladesh? Too many threads about Bangladesh. LOL. I think this can be merged with the election thread. :inti

Anyway, old Hasina-style status quo is long gone. I don't think it is returning because demographics have changed in Bangladesh.

Millennials and Gen Z of Bangladesh (most of them) are not into appeasing India. :inti
 
Why another thread on Bangladesh? Too many threads about Bangladesh. LOL. I think this can be merged with the election thread. :inti

Anyway, old Hasina-style status quo is long gone. I don't think it is returning because demographics have changed in Bangladesh.

Millennials and Gen Z of Bangladesh (most of them) are not into appeasing India. :inti

This thread covers a different topic altogether dear.

It’s a prediction thread of Bengali geopolitics
 
Why another thread on Bangladesh? Too many threads about Bangladesh. LOL. I think this can be merged with the election thread. :inti

Anyway, old Hasina-style status quo is long gone. I don't think it is returning because demographics have changed in Bangladesh.

Millennials and Gen Z of Bangladesh (most of them) are not into appeasing India. :inti
Younger BD people are all influenced by Jamaat. Obviously they don’t like India.

Are you ok with the result of the elections? Who would you have voted for if you were in BD?
 
Younger BD people are all influenced by Jamaat. Obviously they don’t like India.

Are you ok with the result of the elections? Who would you have voted for if you were in BD?

Don’t let the current situation deceive you. A sizeable majority in Bangladesh wants positive relations with India but have been silenced by an extremist minority right now.

In the last two years, lakhs of people have been killed in Bangladesh by radical extremists. Hence the pro progress voices have been silenced. They already made their voice clear I the election by rejecting Jamaat.
 
Personally I have never been too worried about Bangladeshis, they don't really have it in them to train and send militants to Bharat. They are nice tiny people with a lot softer heart.
 
Don’t let the current situation deceive you. A sizeable majority in Bangladesh wants positive relations with India but have been silenced by an extremist minority right now.

In the last two years, lakhs of people have been killed in Bangladesh by radical extremists. Hence the pro progress voices have been silenced. They already made their voice clear I the election by rejecting Jamaat.

"extremist"... everyone is an extremist other than India where there is an actual leader who was banned on terrorism charges for massacring 3000 civilians and whose party regularly comment and attack minorities. Just a copy-paste playbook of Israel who keeps bombing all the surrounding nations and bombs thousands of children under rubble and yet others are the "extremists". Sanghi mindset
 
No one cares.. even Afghanistan the most useless nation on earth that treats women worse than third class citizens should never be India’s partner.

BNP will do the same economy BS they haven’t had income from last 10-15 years, they will be looking to fill their personal treasure at expense of India.
 
No one cares.. even Afghanistan the most useless nation on earth that treats women worse than third class citizens should never be India’s partner.

BNP will do the same economy BS they haven’t had income from last 10-15 years, they will be looking to fill their personal treasure at expense of India.
The utility India has from most of our neighbors is to stop the nuisance and terror activities. That’s the only give and take, otherwise what resources really do Pak, Bangladesh etc provide that helps India? Region and trade routes in 2026 when there are drones and airplanes is not really a incentive anymore.

Antagonizing them pegs India back, appeasing them comes with bigger set of headaches 🤦‍♂️
 
The utility India has from most of our neighbors is to stop the nuisance and terror activities. That’s the only give and take, otherwise what resources really do Pak, Bangladesh etc provide that helps India? Region and trade routes in 2026 when there are drones and airplanes is not really a incentive anymore.

Antagonizing them pegs India back, appeasing them comes with bigger set of headaches 🤦‍♂️
*Puts on my conspiracy Theory hat*

ICT performance when Awami ruled BD was so much worse compared to now.

- It will not matter Jamaat keeps winning near border with India , they are way more dangerous than Pak is in 2026 and they will not be in check unless BD economy improves.

We are trying to have an economic relationship with them, I rather have the entire patrolled on all sides with 0 economic relation.
 
"extremist"... everyone is an extremist other than India where there is an actual leader who was banned on terrorism charges for massacring 3000 civilians and whose party regularly comment and attack minorities. Just a copy-paste playbook of Israel who keeps bombing all the surrounding nations and bombs thousands of children under rubble and yet others are the "extremists". Sanghi mindset

As per sanghis, anyone who doesn't bootlick them is an extremist. :yk

Their definitions do not mean anything.
 
BNP historically always been warmer with Pakistan. So dont expect it to change. Thankfully. Of cause Tarique and anyone for that matter will want decent mutual relationS, trades with any neighbours so don’t get twisted thinking you will get another Hasina like puppet.

BD might be a small landmass country but it has 200 million people a massive youth population. Its not your landlocked neighbour like Bhutana and nepal and your lanlocked north eastern 7sisters with small population. So Dont underestimate Bd. Just because your Dalal hasina played into your hands all these years for the last 16years. Going forward I expect BD to strengthen military ties with Pakistan, china, investing more in defence budget, increasing the military size to near a million. Hasina did bare minimum because her masters didnt want a ready made Bd at their eastern wing, just like they didnt want two wings Pakistans each sides of its borders. Heck the dalal Hasina even wanted to give India rail transit through Bd to Agartala to cut time to help get goods to the landlocked sh’t hole estates that is the north east of india where they think Bdeshis are flocking in as if they are some first world estates
:lol

God is the best of planners. Alhamdulilah thanks to the gen z of Bangladesh overthrowing the dalal Hasina. Today BD can make its own right choices for its self. Pakistan and China is welcome. Always. Indian hegemony is over.
 
Bangladesh very well aware how Pakistan backstabbed on T20 WC controversy.....initially PCB means Pakistani leadership backed Bangladesh for not playing their matches in India. Pakistan leadeshiped promised them they will stand with them. Thats why Bangladesh remain adamant on their demand and ICC expelled Bangladesh out of WC. Then Pakistan leadership taken U-turn on boycott.
 
BNP historically always been warmer with Pakistan. So dont expect it to change. Thankfully. Of cause Tarique and anyone for that matter will want decent mutual relationS, trades with any neighbours so don’t get twisted thinking you will get another Hasina like puppet.

BD might be a small landmass country but it has 200 million people a massive youth population. Its not your landlocked neighbour like Bhutana and nepal and your lanlocked north eastern 7sisters with small population. So Dont underestimate Bd. Just because your Dalal hasina played into your hands all these years for the last 16years. Going forward I expect BD to strengthen military ties with Pakistan, china, investing more in defence budget, increasing the military size to near a million. Hasina did bare minimum because her masters didnt want a ready made Bd at their eastern wing, just like they didnt want two wings Pakistans each sides of its borders. Heck the dalal Hasina even wanted to give India rail transit through Bd to Agartala to cut time to help get goods to the landlocked sh’t hole estates that is the north east of india where they think Bdeshis are flocking in as if they are some first world estates
:lol

God is the best of planners. Alhamdulilah thanks to the gen z of Bangladesh overthrowing the dalal Hasina. Today BD can make its own right choices for its self. Pakistan and China is welcome. Always. Indian hegemony is over.

Sanghis are posting all sorts of fake news to make themselves feel better. :yk

In reality, they are unlikely to get the old status quo back. They are unlikely to get another Hasina.

BD's demographics have changed. Young generations are not interested in bootlicking India. :inti
 
BNP historically always been warmer with Pakistan. So dont expect it to change. Thankfully. Of cause Tarique and anyone for that matter will want decent mutual relationS, trades with any neighbours so don’t get twisted thinking you will get another Hasina like puppet.

BD might be a small landmass country but it has 200 million people a massive youth population. Its not your landlocked neighbour like Bhutana and nepal and your lanlocked north eastern 7sisters with small population. So Dont underestimate Bd. Just because your Dalal hasina played into your hands all these years for the last 16years. Going forward I expect BD to strengthen military ties with Pakistan, china, investing more in defence budget, increasing the military size to near a million. Hasina did bare minimum because her masters didnt want a ready made Bd at their eastern wing, just like they didnt want two wings Pakistans each sides of its borders. Heck the dalal Hasina even wanted to give India rail transit through Bd to Agartala to cut time to help get goods to the landlocked sh’t hole estates that is the north east of india where they think Bdeshis are flocking in as if they are some first world estates
:lol

God is the best of planners. Alhamdulilah thanks to the gen z of Bangladesh overthrowing the dalal Hasina. Today BD can make its own right choices for its self. Pakistan and China is welcome. Always. Indian hegemony is over.
Both Nepal and Bhutan are higher on all human metrics than Bangladesh.
Next time you mock them go check the stats.
 
Except @Bhaijaan no Indian gives a cent about Bangladesh, every Indian just wants them not to come into India, just stay in your country do what you want become East Pakistan again but stay in your own country.
 
Except @Bhaijaan no Indian gives a cent about Bangladesh, every Indian just wants them not to come into India, just stay in your country do what you want become East Pakistan again but stay in your own country.
I don't think this is particularly true. So far the Indian reaction to Bangladesh situation hasn't been a disinterested one. It's not as if you guys have said - here take your former PM and burn as many of your citizens as you want, do want you want just leave us a alone!

So far : Modi has provided refuge to Bangladeshi Tyrant
Raised issue of Bangladesh in Whitehouse with Trump ( this was during frandship era with Doland).
Multiple protests within India about Bangladesh. These protests are really weird too lol
GOI and BCCI intervening to remove Mustafizur due to Public Backlash.
Daily commentary on Bangladesh by Indians. I mean when your trade deal got announced most of the Indian NRIs who love Modi from afar on PP were celebrating the blow Modi has dealt to Bangladeshi Knickers stichers.

Pretending that it's all about Bangladeshi migrants - that existed during the times when you guys were Pro Bangladesh seems a bit disingenuous. Especially considering the high numbers of illegals and students from India in Bangladesh too.
 
I don't think this is particularly true. So far the Indian reaction to Bangladesh situation hasn't been a disinterested one. It's not as if you guys have said - here take your former PM and burn as many of your citizens as you want, do want you want just leave us a alone!

So far : Modi has provided refuge to Bangladeshi Tyrant
Raised issue of Bangladesh in Whitehouse with Trump ( this was during frandship era with Doland).
Multiple protests within India about Bangladesh. These protests are really weird too lol
GOI and BCCI intervening to remove Mustafizur due to Public Backlash.
Daily commentary on Bangladesh by Indians. I mean when your trade deal got announced most of the Indian NRIs who love Modi from afar on PP were celebrating the blow Modi has dealt to Bangladeshi Knickers stichers.

Pretending that it's all about Bangladeshi migrants - that existed during the times when you guys were Pro Bangladesh seems a bit disingenuous. Especially considering the high numbers of illegals and students from India in Bangladesh too.
There was round table conference which aired live, similar questions were asked to Indian government , some minister can’t recall the name, his reply was we cant just treat Indian friends that way.

Now thing is , many Indians are asking this question as well, that’s why this was asked to the Indian ministry because we don't understand as why GOI is doing this either, Hasina isn’t Dalai Lama, Bangladeshis aren’t Tibetians..

The move to keep Hasina is an GOI one, folks in North India atleast are like why are they keeping her.

We have cities with Bangladeshi folks, in Chennai back in the day the furniture markets had Bangladeshis, and it’s not like India doesn’t have cheap labor we already do.. Bangladeshis are a problem in this scenario.
 
I’m sure no Indian would have an issue if the Indian illegals from Bangladesh are sent to India..In my lifetime India hasn’t been pro Bangladeshi.. I remember BNP from the time I came to know about Bangladesh..
 
There was round table conference which aired live, similar questions were asked to Indian government , some minister can’t recall the name, his reply was we cant just treat Indian friends that way.

Now thing is , many Indians are asking this question as well, that’s why this was asked to the Indian ministry because we don't understand as why GOI is doing this either, Hasina isn’t Dalai Lama, Bangladeshis aren’t Tibetians..

The move to keep Hasina is an GOI one, folks in North India atleast are like why are they keeping her.

We have cities with Bangladeshi folks, in Chennai back in the day the furniture markets had Bangladeshis, and it’s not like India doesn’t have cheap labor we already do.. Bangladeshis are a problem in this scenario.
India is a democracy we can't really distance "Indians" from Government of India.

If Indians care so little about Bangladesh they should put more pressure on their government to stop caring rather than give Bangladeshis abuse. You guys are actually on the same page then, they also want Indians to stop caring about Bangladesh.

Even the illegals seems like a you problem. Strengthen your borders. Punish your industries that exploit these migrants. Otherwise people will flown. If an Indian illegal can end up in USA then we shouldn't be surprised if a Bangladeshi can end up in USA. People will try anything to beat poverty. These people often aren't politically motivated, just trying to make ends meet.
 
Except @Bhaijaan no Indian gives a cent about Bangladesh, every Indian just wants them not to come into India, just stay in your country do what you want become East Pakistan again but stay in your own country.
I actually don't get why so much vituperative hate has developed against Bangladeshis within the last 5 years or so.

I assume the number one issue is illegal immigration but
1. It's a very urban problem
2. It's scale, in my opinion, is much larger than is assumed at least by NRIs who seem more passionate about it than Indians. Yes we do see a lot more Bengali speaking migrant labourers in cities but given how bad the West Bengal economy is, my suspicion is that a lot of them are Indian Bengalis. You'll also notice poor folks are not cribbing. It's mostly middle class. The Bangladeshi migrants are doing jobs Indian poor don't want so much.
3. Bangladeshi migrants have largely been a well-behaved minority. Hard-working, not interested in extremism

This level of hate wasn't there anywhere except Assam where the migrant impact was significant but suddenly it's everywhere.
 
India is a democracy we can't really distance "Indians" from Government of India.

If Indians care so little about Bangladesh they should put more pressure on their government to stop caring rather than give Bangladeshis abuse. You guys are actually on the same page then, they also want Indians to stop caring about Bangladesh.

Even the illegals seems like a you problem. Strengthen your borders. Punish your industries that exploit these migrants. Otherwise people will flown. If an Indian illegal can end up in USA then we shouldn't be surprised if a Bangladeshi can end up in USA. People will try anything to beat poverty. These people often aren't politically motivated, just trying to make ends meet.

India is poor too isn’t it.. we have so many poor folks too, does it make sense for India to get the poor illegal Bangladeshis. Maybe let the illegals stay but not more illegal folks and this way it works for everyone..

On democracy, if that’s true then you are responsible for British government which would make you giys responsible for mass murders in middle east- regime changes in Pakistan, killing or Iraq.. etc etc
 
I actually don't get why so much vituperative hate has developed against Bangladeshis within the last 5 years or so.

I assume the number one issue is illegal immigration but
1. It's a very urban problem
2. It's scale, in my opinion, is much larger than is assumed at least by NRIs who seem more passionate about it than Indians. Yes we do see a lot more Bengali speaking migrant labourers in cities but given how bad the West Bengal economy is, my suspicion is that a lot of them are Indian Bengalis. You'll also notice poor folks are not cribbing. It's mostly middle class. The Bangladeshi migrants are doing jobs Indian poor don't want so much.
3. Bangladeshi migrants have largely been a well-behaved minority. Hard-working, not interested in extremism

This level of hate wasn't there anywhere except Assam where the migrant impact was significant but suddenly it's everywhere.
Just today Bangladeshi citizen picked up from Tamil Nadu for terror activities.

I argued with my dad the same topic as you did in 2016.. they are hard working , minding their business in furniture mechanic shops why does it matter if there is no extremism.l but i was proven wrong. Now you can obviously say it’s only one Bangladeshi..but there are more issues that will prop up..

Also nope I can assure it isn’t NRI thing.. the issue has been in Bengal from 1990s, NE since 2000s, it’s just lower in West India that’s why.
 
I don't think this is particularly true. So far the Indian reaction to Bangladesh situation hasn't been a disinterested one. It's not as if you guys have said - here take your former PM and burn as many of your citizens as you want, do want you want just leave us a alone!

So far : Modi has provided refuge to Bangladeshi Tyrant
Raised issue of Bangladesh in Whitehouse with Trump ( this was during frandship era with Doland).
Multiple protests within India about Bangladesh. These protests are really weird too lol
GOI and BCCI intervening to remove Mustafizur due to Public Backlash.
Daily commentary on Bangladesh by Indians. I mean when your trade deal got announced most of the Indian NRIs who love Modi from afar on PP were celebrating the blow Modi has dealt to Bangladeshi Knickers stichers.

Pretending that it's all about Bangladeshi migrants - that existed during the times when you guys were Pro Bangladesh seems a bit disingenuous. Especially considering the high numbers of illegals and students from India in Bangladesh too.
India is a democracy we can't really distance "Indians" from Government of India.

If Indians care so little about Bangladesh they should put more pressure on their government to stop caring rather than give Bangladeshis abuse. You guys are actually on the same page then, they also want Indians to stop caring about Bangladesh.

Even the illegals seems like a you problem. Strengthen your borders. Punish your industries that exploit these migrants. Otherwise people will flown. If an Indian illegal can end up in USA then we shouldn't be surprised if a Bangladeshi can end up in USA. People will try anything to beat poverty. These people often aren't politically motivated, just trying to make ends meet.

Top posts. Fully agree.

They talk about illegals as if they themselves don't migrate illegally. Indians are the third largest illegal group in USA. There are also illegal Indians in Canada, Europe, Middle East etc.

Indians should be content with the new status quo. They are unlikely to get the old status quo back no matter how much they whine. :dav
 
Just today Bangladeshi citizen picked up from Tamil Nadu for terror activities.

I argued with my dad the same topic as you did in 2016.. they are hard working , minding their business in furniture mechanic shops why does it matter if there is no extremism.l but i was proven wrong. Now you can obviously say it’s only one Bangladeshi..but there are more issues that will prop up..

Also nope I can assure it isn’t NRI thing.. the issue has been in Bengal from 1990s, NE since 2000s, it’s just lower in West India that’s why.
I don't get it though. How come you are allowed to migrate to the US but a Bangladeshi labourer is not allowed to seek a slightly better life for his family in India? Indians have also caused issues in the US. One was recently convicted for attempted murder of a Khalistani type. I guess more will prop up as you say.

Maybe it's time for my old idea. Anybody who has migrated in the last 100 years or their descendants be forced to return to their country of origin.
 
I don't get it though. How come you are allowed to migrate to the US but a Bangladeshi labourer is not allowed to seek a slightly better life for his family in India? Indians have also caused issues in the US. One was recently convicted for attempted murder of a Khalistani type. I guess more will prop up as you say.

Maybe it's time for my old idea. Anybody who has migrated in the last 100 years or their descendants be forced to return to their country of origin.
Do you think I migrated illegally?

I agree on Indians causing issues , the illegal activities, even in Canada(esp us Panjabis) .. but do you think we will work with Russia/Iran to create terror in US?

Also do you think majority Indian Americans support illegal activities of Indians?
 
Do you think I migrated illegally?

I agree on Indians causing issues , the illegal activities, even in Canada(esp us Panjabis) .. but do you think we will work with Russia/Iran to create terror in US?

Also do you think majority Indian Americans support illegal activities of Indians?
Legal or illegal is just a government of the day decision. What Obama called legal back then, Trump calls illegal now.

Also the act is very comparable. In fact, what that Indian guy tried to do was actually a worse act of terrorism since he was potentially acting with support of the Indian government. The US is very right to be concerned especially since a lot of Indians on this forum seem to support his attempt.

I think the only solution is to reverse all migration legal or illegal for the last 100 years.
 
Legal or illegal is just a government of the day decision. What Obama called legal back then, Trump calls illegal now.

Also the act is very comparable. In fact, what that Indian guy tried to do was actually a worse act of terrorism since he was potentially acting with support of the Indian government. The US is very right to be concerned especially since a lot of Indians on this forum seem to support his attempt.

I think the only solution is to reverse all migration legal or illegal for the last 100 years.
Your last point I already said in my posts above, let the illegals stay but no more illegal folks and just create barricades so no more infiltration.

And what was illegal in Obama’s era is exactly what is Illegal in Trump’s , Obama is the one who opened those can of worms and had high amount of deportees, I think you are talking about Clinton or Bush..

On your point that most Indian posters agree on here, now you see the Bangladeshi posters here spewing venom against India, do you see the same from Indian Americans towards America, also which Indian based in America supports Indian government involvement , I don’t see any on forum or in States.

Indians in America don’t hate America they might hate the foreign policy but not the country, but if you think Bangladeshis don’t hate Indian folks then nothing else to say.. if God willing we both are here we can discuss the same thing in 2030s
 
Your last point I already said in my posts above, let the illegals stay but no more illegal folks and just create barricades so no more infiltration.

And what was illegal in Obama’s era is exactly what is Illegal in Trump’s , Obama is the one who opened those can of worms and had high amount of deportees, I think you are talking about Clinton or Bush..

On your point that most Indian posters agree on here, now you see the Bangladeshi posters here spewing venom against India, do you see the same from Indian Americans towards America, also which Indian based in America supports Indian government involvement , I don’t see any on forum or in States.

Indians in America don’t hate America they might hate the foreign policy but not the country, but if you think Bangladeshis don’t hate Indian folks then nothing else to say.. if God willing we both are here we can discuss the same thing in 2030s
If I were going on the folks in this forum, I'd have to assume every Indian Hindu, especially NRI dislikes Muslims and is obsessed with Pakistan. Luckily, I know from my daily life that I can go for months without hearing a mention of Pakistan and that Hindus and Muslims live side by side with minor frictions.

Excuse me if I don't take a pimply Canadian Bangladeshi kid and a couple of other NRBs as representative of all Bangladeshis.

In the end, Indians and those who are called Bangladeshis today have lived cheek by jowl for centuries and for most of those centuries, movement has been free.

I still feel that if we so hate migration, India should ask all countries to deport Indian origin migrants - legal or illegal and of course deport all migrants to India legal or illegal back to their origin countries. We need to be consistent.
 
If I were going on the folks in this forum, I'd have to assume every Indian Hindu, especially NRI dislikes Muslims and is obsessed with Pakistan. Luckily, I know from my daily life that I can go for months without hearing a mention of Pakistan and that Hindus and Muslims live side by side with minor frictions.

Excuse me if I don't take a pimply Canadian Bangladeshi kid and a couple of other NRBs as representative of all Bangladeshis.

In the end, Indians and those who are called Bangladeshis today have lived cheek by jowl for centuries and for most of those centuries, movement has been free.

I still feel that if we so hate migration, India should ask all countries to deport Indian origin migrants - legal or illegal and of course deport all migrants to India legal or illegal back to their origin countries. We need to be consistent.
Illegal Indian migrants get deported anyway when caught(check the number in last 5-10 years).. America Canada have been doing so.. I don’t see any protests by Indians abroad on the same because they do see the logic.

You want Indian government to call them back?
 
Illegal Indian migrants get deported anyway when caught(check the number in last 5-10 years).. America Canada have been doing so.. I don’t see any protests by Indians abroad on the same because they do see the logic.

You want Indian government to call them back?
Indians (and Pakistanis) in general are very hypocritical about this stuff.

Sure you took advantage of a legal immigration route to the US. Do you know if Bangladeshis had a similar legal route into India? Essentially, we're happy to take but not give.

All those Bangladeshis are not living on air. They're being employed by Indians who're happy to exploit their labour.

Basically, I'm suggesting India make a deal with the US to deport all Indian origin folks - legal or illegal back to India and deport all Bangladeshis legal or illegal back to Bangladesh. Seems a fair deal given the mood in all countries involved.
 
I actually don't get why so much vituperative hate has developed against Bangladeshis within the last 5 years or so.

I assume the number one issue is illegal immigration but
The Bangladeshi migrants are doing jobs Indian poor don't want so much.
3. Bangladeshi migrants have largely been a well-behaved minority. Hard-working, not interested in extremism
Are they legally migrated ? No.

Do they have to be deported ?.yes.

any illegal immigrant irrespective of citizenship from any where should be thrown out.its none of their business to snatch the resources of a rightful citizen. A responsible government should stop them.its similar to fielding in the cricket. It does not mean a fielder have to sleep in the field since his team have scored sufficient.
 
Indians (and Pakistanis) in general are very hypocritical about this stuff.

Sure you took advantage of a legal immigration route to the US. Do you know if Bangladeshis had a similar legal route into India? Essentially, we're happy to take but not give.

All those Bangladeshis are not living on air. They're being employed by Indians who're happy to exploit their labour.

Basically, I'm suggesting India make a deal with the US to deport all Indian origin folks - legal or illegal back to India and deport all Bangladeshis legal or illegal back to Bangladesh. Seems a fair deal given the mood in all countries involved.
So if legal or illegal doesn’t make a difference, then why do collective laws make a difference, I’m guessing you are suggesting world without borders and laws.

Thats fine I suppose.. we don’t need legal laws at all and let it be wild wild west as there is no point of democracy then as well because illegal folks should be given the right to vote …but the laws set by government need not be followed as legal illegal doesn’t matter.
 
So if legal or illegal doesn’t make a difference, then why do collective laws make a difference, I’m guessing you are suggesting world without borders and laws.

Thats fine I suppose.. we don’t need legal laws at all and let it be wild wild west as there is no point of democracy then as well because illegal folks should be given the right to vote …but the laws set by government need not be followed as legal illegal doesn’t matter.
General Dyer's actions at Jallianwala Bagh were deemed legal by the law and legal authorities at the time. Should we have let it rest?

If Bangladeshis had a legal route to immigration into India like Indians have into the US and took an illegal route like some Indians have, I suppose I'd have a little more sympathy with your position.

Your stance essentially is that the law needs to be obeyed no matter how unfair it is. If tomorrow, xenophobia in the US created laws that forced all Indians with Green cards in India to leave and relocate their US born children to India, would you still be as supportive of the law? After all, they passed the original laws and are now fully entitled to change them.
 
General Dyer's actions at Jallianwala Bagh were deemed legal by the law and legal authorities at the time. Should we have let it rest?

If Bangladeshis had a legal route to immigration into India like Indians have into the US and took an illegal route like some Indians have, I suppose I'd have a little more sympathy with your position.

Your stance essentially is that the law needs to be obeyed no matter how unfair it is. If tomorrow, xenophobia in the US created laws that forced all Indians with Green cards in India to leave and relocate their US born children to India, would you still be as supportive of the law? After all, they passed the original laws and are now fully entitled to change them.

America will change the laws it’s already being rectified , US laws were changed as recent as 1965 and then again and again, Bangladeshi refugees from 1971 aren’t equivalent to what you are seeing now.. you want India to create a pathway for economic immigration without even having the resources for its own population?

So let me ask you think Indian immigration laws are unjust? India with such huge poverty should allow folks from other nations as well?
I’m guessing you don’t like ISRO too then as we have such huge number of unjust distribution of resources, we shouldn’t had focused on it from 1970-2010
 
America will change the laws it’s already being rectified , US laws were changed as recent as 1965 and then again and again, Bangladeshi refugees from 1971 aren’t equivalent to what you are seeing now.. you want India to create a pathway for economic immigration without even having the resources for its own population?

So let me ask you think Indian immigration laws are unjust? India with such huge poverty should allow folks from other nations as well?
I’m guessing you don’t like ISRO too then as we have such huge number of unjust distribution of resources, we shouldn’t had focused on it from 1970-2010
I honestly don't know what you're getting at with ISRO.

The Bangladeshis migrating to India have only done what millions of Indians have done legally and illegally - try to make a better life for themselves and their children through hard work. They're not stupid. They wouldn't come if India was so poor that they wouldn't be able find work.

Deny them the chance if you're so terrified of their work but the kind of language and rhetoric I'm seeing used about them nowadays is truly shameful.
 
I honestly don't know what you're getting at with ISRO.

The Bangladeshis migrating to India have only done what millions of Indians have done legally and illegally - try to make a better life for themselves and their children through hard work. They're not stupid. They wouldn't come if India was so poor that they wouldn't be able find work.

Deny them the chance if you're so terrified of their work but the kind of language and rhetoric I'm seeing used about them nowadays is truly shameful.
The rhetoric they spew against India in Bangladesh is equivalent to North Indians spewing against them..imagine the folks that India want to come to India? Does that make sense to you?
 
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