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Bangladesh or Afghanistan: Which team will be better in coming decade?

I think its a mixed answer.

Afghanistan will have better peaks, but also more embarrassing lows by virtue of their side. They are extremely talented, and have fantastic spinners in particular, and show signs of solving their batting woes, but they are horrific under pressure situations, as shown by their WC record of 9 defeats and the fact they lost to Hong Kong, Scotland and Zimbabwe in the qualifier and only made it through an extraordinarily freakish set of results.

Bangladesh are a weaker t20 side for sure, but I think have established themselves firmly now a solid mid tier team in all formats hence will be more consistent.

In a head to head I'd back the Afghans in t20's and Tests, Bangladesh in ODI's.

In a t20 world cup in Asia Afghanistan are most certainly contenders for a semi final slot due to their spinners and t20 experience.
 
I don’t see any comparison.

AFG has done reasonably well in T20 and also somewhat in ODI compared to many other Asian countries in their first 5-10 years. However, that’s due to freak performance by a couple players. With no school system, no real local club culture, no local money, no hosting international matches even in the next decade except for some odd charity matches, I don’t see how AFG will sustain its current level. It will go the Zim or Kenya way, after the initial flourish. Afg does have India and Pak cricket ecosystems to help them out but it can only take them to a certain level.

Whereas BD team is going through a slump. It’s team and fans boasted a decade back that they are now world beaters.

Hopefully they have some humility now, because professionalism and humility will make them the second strongest team within next 10 years to mirror their second largest economy in the Asian cricket. BPL will be bigger and richer than PSL within 5 years. Overseas player will prefer Dhaka and Chittagong over Faisalabad, or Karachi for being safer, more lucrative and more fun quotient.
 
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Bangladesh cricket board has used the popularity of the sport well and has invested decently at grass root level. Having decent players coming through at junior level possibly means that they should be able to have decently competitive sides going forward as well. However, development of players between the junior level and international cricket is generally the difference between the overall output of different teams. So we will have to see how is that development aspect handled.
 
Can you share the names of the 145 bowlers.
The pace bowling was very underwhelming in the bpl.
Wahab had the top 7 or 8 fastest deliveries and he is a spent force.

Wahab is good enough to be escorted to PAK team despite having abundant of FAST bowling talent - in that regard he has to be the star of BPL. He is playing for Pakistan & then Pakistan A.... therefore not sure about how much spent he actually is. You see, I have again brought Pakistan here - aadat paar gaya, keya karu.

The speed guns are not reliable, therefore it’s difficult to judge but Taskin, Rubel, AlAmin, Ebadat on record has clocked 90miles, probably another guy as well, but not sure. Even Mustafiz clocked 144km.

Pace is not the main issue, wasn’t even 15 years back - Mashrafee clocked 91mph in his early days and some of the next batch of U19 boys were faster than him at junior level, didn’t last longer or made their mark. Even before him there was a guy Hasib, deceptively quick but couldn’t often finish one spell!!!!

The problem is lack of skill - they can’t control the radar at pace, neither have the stamina, hence slow down to line-length. At 134Km speed a skilful pacer with stamina can create havoc, therefore it’s not essential to focus only on pace. And frankly, we are never going to blow teams with pace and bounce - that’s a non productive route to invest.

But, there is a focus on developing skilled pacer - part of which is to change the coaching staffs from Australia/South Africa/WIN to England & Srilanka. It’s more realistic to develop a Vaas or Streak than a Reon King or Sipamla....
 
Bangladesh easily. Their team is in a bit of slump but they should produce some decent test cricketers soon enough
 
Wahab is good enough to be escorted to PAK team despite having abundant of FAST bowling talent - in that regard he has to be the star of BPL. He is playing for Pakistan & then Pakistan A.... therefore not sure about how much spent he actually is. You see, I have again brought Pakistan here - aadat paar gaya, keya karu.

The speed guns are not reliable, therefore it’s difficult to judge but Taskin, Rubel, AlAmin, Ebadat on record has clocked 90miles, probably another guy as well, but not sure. Even Mustafiz clocked 144km.

Pace is not the main issue, wasn’t even 15 years back - Mashrafee clocked 91mph in his early days and some of the next batch of U19 boys were faster than him at junior level, didn’t last longer or made their mark. Even before him there was a guy Hasib, deceptively quick but couldn’t often finish one spell!!!!

The problem is lack of skill - they can’t control the radar at pace, neither have the stamina, hence slow down to line-length. At 134Km speed a skilful pacer with stamina can create havoc, therefore it’s not essential to focus only on pace. And frankly, we are never going to blow teams with pace and bounce - that’s a non productive route to invest.

But, there is a focus on developing skilled pacer - part of which is to change the coaching staffs from Australia/South Africa/WIN to England & Srilanka. It’s more realistic to develop a Vaas or Streak than a Reon King or Sipamla....

None of the guys you mention can bowl 140 plus for any length of time.
Skills, now they can be taught. Vaas and streak like bowlers will inspire young'uns The pacers that played on the tour to pakistan and the back up at the BPL was ordinary.
 
Tbf t20 cricket can skew perceptions. Bangldesh i believe are stronger in the two longer formats?
 
None of the guys you mention can bowl 140 plus for any length of time.
Skills, now they can be taught. Vaas and streak like bowlers will inspire young'uns The pacers that played on the tour to pakistan and the back up at the BPL was ordinary.

Don’t twist words - you asked which are the bowlers, I gave the list. Next time when I’ll write average speed, come back to catch me.

Yes, pace bowling stocks are low - which should inspire the next generation.
 
Don’t twist words - you asked which are the bowlers, I gave the list. Next time when I’ll write average speed, come back to catch me.

Yes, pace bowling stocks are low - which should inspire the next generation.

You said 145 bowlers. These guys are no where near. Its not like they are an unknown quantity.
We have seen them play.
 
You said 145 bowlers. These guys are no where near. Its not like they are an unknown quantity.
We have seen them play.

Each one has crossed 145km - on record. How many fast bowlers are there who can manage 140k average speed for an ODI, let alone Test?
 
Gents

Thread title is about Bangladesh and Afghanistan

Stick to it please.
 
Bangladesh, should

BD is economically and politically stable country with large fan base and pool of player and established FC structure. They lack natural physical fitness which Afghan players possess. Afghanistan is handicapped by having their own FC and cricket structure and political stability is not making much progress.
 
Not spin attack - you’ll see it when PAK tour BD next time. I’ll also see PAK batting on turners against finger spinners. Pace bowling will need time, but more importantly it’ll need a paradime shift in the cricket philosophy.

I’m actually not one who believes in natural talunt - BD won’t pluck couple of Test class pacer from thin air - it needs lots of technical learning, cultural changes and focus. There are pacers with 145km speed but it’s not going to do anything against Test quality batsmen even on green tops (a bitter truth for you as well I believe) - what it needs is the skill & intelligence mixed with pace and endurance, to set up batsmen & force them out when they are in survival mood.

For that, first thing needs to be done is to change the wickets of Bangladesh - technically it’s not impossible as there are professional foreign groundsmen working with BCB and the soil quality is also very good; but changing the wicket means surrendering the massive home advantage that we have against better teams - I don’t think BCB is ready to sacrifice that.

So, for next 10-12 years I believe the focus will be to try dominating home games with spinners on slow, low bounce tracks and learn the art of playing on faster tracks on away tours - gradually move into building an all-round attack keeping the progress in batting ongoing.

If Bangladesh's spin attack was so great they could have atleast won their side a test against Afghanistan, of all teams. And that too at home.

I don't know what to make of your analysis. I don't think its that simple. India continues to have the flattest of flat wickets where batsmen smash triple centuries for fun. Yet for quite some time they have been churning top-quality fast-bowlers. I think the problem lies with the system. I'm shooting an arrow in the sky here and I may be wrong but my sense is that the quality of cricket in Bangladesh domestic cricket is quite poor. There are very few batsmen and bowlers of note. And the ones that are of note and have done well be it, in DPL or whatever the Bangladeshi equivalent of QeA Trophy is, have already been exposed internationally.

Therefore really the only choice Bangladesh have is wait for a great natural talent to arrive who can even be fast-tracked to the national side to accelerate his growth as a player. But I don't know how effective the current Bangladesh domestic system will be when it is full of the same players who have played for Bangladesh and failed to maintain a place in the side, or aren't good enough to even make that side.
 
“India continues to have the flattest of flat wickets where batsmen smash triple centuries for fun. “

Not sure where this come from. But this remark just shows the gap between reality and perception.

There are a grand total of 31 test Triple centuries ever.

Out of 31, 7 were smashed in WI, 6 in England,6 in Aus/NZ - all these places supposedly the unflattest of unflat wickets,

And surprisingly, 4 in Pakistan (actually 5 if we include Dubai), the mythical land of 100+mph fast bowling and 2nd-tier club-level batting.

....and just 2 test triple centuries in the grounds of India, the mysterious place of the flattest wickets and best batsmen.

Even SL has seen 3 test triple centuries in its grounds, more than India.

Anything goes in the era of arm-chair analysis I guess!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Test_cricket_triple_centuries
 
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If Bangladesh's spin attack was so great they could have atleast won their side a test against Afghanistan, of all teams. And that too at home.

I don't know what to make of your analysis. I don't think its that simple. India continues to have the flattest of flat wickets where batsmen smash triple centuries for fun. Yet for quite some time they have been churning top-quality fast-bowlers. I think the problem lies with the system. I'm shooting an arrow in the sky here and I may be wrong but my sense is that the quality of cricket in Bangladesh domestic cricket is quite poor. There are very few batsmen and bowlers of note. And the ones that are of note and have done well be it, in DPL or whatever the Bangladeshi equivalent of QeA Trophy is, have already been exposed internationally.

Therefore really the only choice Bangladesh have is wait for a great natural talent to arrive who can even be fast-tracked to the national side to accelerate his growth as a player. But I don't know how effective the current Bangladesh domestic system will be when it is full of the same players who have played for Bangladesh and failed to maintain a place in the side, or aren't good enough to even make that side.

Afghan’s spin attack is much better and they won a vital toss - there was only one Test, therefore BD couldn’t have made a come back. These examples will backfire for Pakistan actually (again Pakistan comes to example) - it’s not that Bobby Mughabe’s ZIM had better pacers in 2013, nor even in 1998 ZIM had better pace attack. Or at Harare 1994, when ZIM pacers got better of PAK’s combined innings for the cost of 4 ZIM wickets on their second year of Test cricket. I guess, this will explain the Afghan Test part. It happens - not taking any credit out of Afghans here at all.

You have no clue about Indian tracks - actually I am surprised here. Try to figure out first what India has done to their wickets, you may realise the difference between true wicket and dead wicket. On a contrary, by that logic of yours, PAK should have the best phast bowling attack in world now with the wickets used there in domestics - top bowlers were averaging 10-12 in FC season .... but it wasn’t happening to be honest. And further on that note, playing on those wickets, against that quality of bowling, PAK batting should be rocking now .... you know.

One thing I agree - the quality of BD domestics is quite low. But, it has to develop over the years - for a fact, there was no four day competition even 16-17 years back (true -BD got Test status without having a FC system!!!!), which is happening. Each year, average age of FC season is reducing for last 6-7 years - that’s because older players are phased out by younger players who are technically better than their predecessors. It’s a marginal improvement, which can’t be seen definitively, because the gap was much wider at the start.

Coming to unleashing fast bowlers, I don’t think it’s going to work that way. Bangladesh may talunt bahoot nahin hai- we’ll have to try conventional way; the way India improved their fast bowling over decades.

First step - being pacers in FC cricket, which they are doing. At least 40% overs of a FC game has to be bowled by pacers, but no pacer can bowl more than 19 overs a day, means they’ll have to pick at least 2.5 pacers for playing XI. 5-6 years ago, it was like Indian Test team of 1960-70s - likes of Soumya Sharker taking the shine off, then 80 overs of spin

Second step - they are putting grass on wickets on firm base for FC games so that there is bounce & pace on the track. It’s not evident in international cricket because giving green tops to even ZIM will backfire (it did at Sylhet when Jarvis & Sibanda ran through the batting) - so, they are planning to play Test cricket on dry turners, but for ODI, taking out the grass and making it absolute belter. Last ZIM ODI, both teams could have scored 350+ batting first

Third step: involve technically qualified coaches, which they are doing. Before COVID cut down BCB’s wings, there were at least four qualified level 3 or above coaches were working with BCB age level pacers, the peak of them is Ottis Gibson. However, this one is the toughest job - suddenly attaching top coaches to 23-25 years old (officially) pacers won’t do Jack (it’s not doing somewhere else as well...); so it has to be next generation, pacers in the age bracket of 16-19. They are trying that, but it’s not easy - lots of other factors has to change - diet, conditioning, life style....

Fourth step: develop a world class high performance centre - it’s not regular academy to teach kids basics. Rather, top pro with adequate technology & biomechanics working on young but physically developed pacers. This one is long away - they do have an HP centre with couple of English pro, but it’ll deliver at least 5-6 years later.

Finally - mentoring, on field guidance .... this one will need at least 10-12 more years.

If anyone thinks that there are other ways, I guess they should focus on talent part.

Regarding BPL - it was one of the most successful T20 tournament, because it was serving its purpose. And, it didn’t have any damn impact on BD cricket. This year, they have dropped BPL not because suddenly BCB or BD has become pauper, rather BCB has figured out with COVID protocol, spending that much money on BPL isn’t worthy - they didn’t close FC tournament, neither premier List A tournament, rather replaced BPL with a somewhat T20 tournament; you can understand where BPL stands on hierarchy. The quality of BPL has absolutely to bearing on BD cricket and I am happy with that - I guess you should realise focusing too much on these PLs & SLs .... where it can take a countries’ cricket.

Only take out from your post is that BD needs to improve the domestic FC standard - if you can add value to that discussion, you are welcome, I have whole weekend for you; but it has to be a worthy discussion.... not talunt route.
 
“India continues to have the flattest of flat wickets where batsmen smash triple centuries for fun. “

Not sure where this come from. But this remark just shows the gap between reality and perception.

There are a grand total of 31 test Triple centuries ever.

Out of 31, 7 were smashed in WI, 6 in England,6 in Aus/NZ - all these places supposedly the unflattest of unflat wickets,

And surprisingly, 4 in Pakistan (actually 5 if we include Dubai), the mythical land of 100+mph fast bowling and 2nd-tier club-level batting.

....and just 2 test triple centuries in the grounds of India, the mysterious place of the flattest wickets and best batsmen.

Even SL has seen 3 test triple centuries in its grounds, more than India.

Anything goes in the era of arm-chair analysis I guess!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Test_cricket_triple_centuries

That Indian wicket comment really chuckled me - I wonder if these guys watch or follow any cricket beyond T20 & T10....
 
Bangladesh won the u19 world cup.
They surely have a better future.

Also, in t20s Afg will be a better team than ban but in other formats where batsman need to spend time at the crease ban will be a level ahead of Afghanistan.
 
Bangladesh.
It’s all about money. This whole infatuation about talent and grit is malarkey. It’s all about money and how much money can be invested into the infrastructure for training and paying players. Bangladesh is on path to be the second best team in Asia in all formats by the end of the decade.

They will likely surpass New Zealand soon enough.

How much time will Bangladesh take to become the second best team in Asia?
 
Both the teams have zero fast bowlers without fast bowling they can't win much.both these teams will struggle and will remain at bottom of ranking tables in all the formats.
 
I expect Bangladesh to do better not because they are more talented but because they have access to better resources/coaches.

I want Bangladesh and Afghanistan to play more games as both teams can improve by playing more.
 
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Bangladesh, and not only Afghans, it’ll be better than few other teams as well - I’ll be happy to revisit this thread on 2029, if I am alive.

There are two thought process in this discussion - one is usual talent route and the other one is through systematic development. I tend to believe in the second one.

What has worked for the AFGs I n short period of time is that most of their players learned the game initially from the established (relatively) cricket culture of PAK, and then now enjoying the top class facilities shared by by BCCI, so their progression (read reduction of gap) was faster. In fact, I won’t even say that - by 2007, within 5-6 years, we also reached a level to compete with top teams at home; but the tougher part is to reach next level.

AFG’s progress I can explain with a real life example (without any ill intentions) - very similar to PAK. 1950s decade was a glorious period for PAK cricket with several readymade players developed in British Indian domestic cricket; then that generation phased out and PAK went into 1960s .... it would have gone beyond current level had the Counties not been there - something we can realise from the days of late 1990s.

The second factor which is shining for AFGs now is that we are in T20 era - something I don’t call cricket. It reduces the fundamental skill gap of the game and AFGs do have couple of unconventional spinners for the purpose - we had one and in one summer he burnt far, far better batting lineups than entire Afghan cricket history has seen - but it doesn’t & wont last long, because the game is built on fundamental skills.

Regarding the Test win at Chittagong, I can explain that as well, though I am sure it’ll sound like an excuse- AFGs got their ideal wicket and won a vital toss ... such things will always happen. On our 3rd year, we could have won a Test in PAK, why didn’t I don’t won’t to dig deep. We competed with that Australia team till 14th session of a Test match and lost only for couple of drops against a wonderful ATG batsman.

Countries like WIN, PAK and SRL - all three former world champs and former top top class teams are now struggling to cope up with top tier teams, because of the weakness at grass-root level, .... I don’t think AFGs are that talented to cover up for that. What we are struggling now is bridging the gap of next level - our U19 team is destroying teams across 4 continents, some of the boys I have seen are exceptionally good for their age; but I know most of them won’t progress beyond a level because of the quality of domestic cricket. AFGs even haven't reached that level.

Having said that, in a 10-12 country cricket family, I would always wish good luck for Afghans and well come if they can prove me wrong. But, it didn’t happen for Kenya, which at the end of last millennium could have put current AFG talent in pocket and forget later which pocket, with the quality of their cricket - it didn’t happen for them and not because suddenly one of the strongest sports nation in world became genetically impotent (in terms of sports talent), rather they couldn’t build the system that’s required to progress to next level. If Afghans are to progress, it has to be through the same route, not because of their natural talent.

: Mark it for 31-12-2029; I’ll be there for sure.

This is all good but just to naked eye currently Afghanistan seems more likely to win against Bangladesh every time the two sides play against each other although they dont always win. In my opinion both teams have an equal chance what will worry me most about Bangladesh is that this is suppose to be their golden era with their best ever players just passing peak in (Mushfiq, Shakib, Tamim and Mohamudulah). They have not won nothing even with these 4 top players almost passing their peak and perhaps have another 4 years left to play.

Regarding you other comment about PAK, WIN and SRL - this is just circle of life and all these teams will rise and drop again just like in the past. Pakistan have still won T20, Champions trophy and went within one game of winning the WC in the last 20 years with the worst set of players in the last 5 decades. Pakistan last great team went past its peak after 99 WC.

SL was a good team not so long ago and played 2 WC finals and won T20 WC and also played a final. You can also see with Australia they are below even Pakistan standard if we compare there 2010s team relatively they have fallen way below what they used to be. England is going through their golden period for the first time along with NZ.

India is one team who given their population and now among the best domestic set up and no other sport threat for at least foreseeable future should be able to maintain the standard of their team better than anyone else and should be satisfied with nothing other than total dominance.
 
How much time will Bangladesh take to become the second best team in Asia?

This can never be predicted for a long time Pakistan was the best team in ASIA and then for a brief period it was SL and now for the last 10 years over all it has been INDIA.

How long they will take to become second best team in ASIA depends on other teams too what if India become the second best team in ASIA or even third as was the case most of my life? Your question is almost impossible to answer.
 
Both will be rubbish for years to come.

Afghanistan have some good spinners, who might pose a threat in T20s sometimes.
 
Afghanistan are now ranked above Bangladesh in the ICC test rankings.

Afghanistan went ahead of ranking a year back since they won the Chittagong Test. However, it’s provisional ranking because they haven’t played enough number of Tests.
 
Bangladesh, should

BD is economically and politically stable country with large fan base and pool of player and established FC structure. They lack natural physical fitness which Afghan players possess. Afghanistan is handicapped by having their own FC and cricket structure and political stability is not making much progress.
Natural physical fitness? Afghans might be taller on average than Bangladeshis but that doesn’t mean they’re stronger. Remember, impoverished North Koreans have more Olympic medals in Wrestling( traditional sport of both India and Pakistan) than taller Pakistanis and Indians.
 
I might be biased but I firmly believe Bangladesh will do better overall. Afghanistan will probably have better spinners and some brutes, and might outperform us regularly in T20Is.

What hinders Afghanistan is their lack of facilities. It will be really difficult for them. Now if they had access to similar facilities, in 10 years from now on they'd be so much better than us.
 
Bangladesh whitewashed West Indies

Afghanistan whitewashed Ireland

Great start for both the teams in Odi Super League

Can either or both of them finish in top 8?
 
If Misbah stays which is likely to happen, both Bangladesh and Afghanistan will be ahead of us in all formats.
 
5 Afghan players picked in PSL

None from Bangladesh

Bangladesh has a LOI series in NZ. So our players won't be available for majority of the tournament. Better to get players who are available throughout the competition.
 
Bangladesh has a LOI series in NZ. So our players won't be available for majority of the tournament. Better to get players who are available throughout the competition.

BD have been around for a long time yet their progress is hardly visible in stark contrast to Afghanistan.

On top of that, BD is a weak mentality team which is very hard to change even with great coaching and other external factors.
 
Afghanistan is already producing world class talent

With some backing,they can be tough to beat atleast in Asia for SENA teams
 
Both will make good progress. Bangladesh will be ahead though. They have good foundation of young talent in their country.
 
Bangladesh have a bigger population which means a bigger pool of players.Afghanistan has natural talent but since it is new to cricket the Afghan players don't understand the game plan.Afghanistan's big advantage is that it produces world class players at very young age.A lot of Afghan players are ready to play international cricket when they are around 15 years old.
 
I would put my bet on Afghanistan but i hope that Bangla gets better too.
 
Afghanistan are pretty useless against big teams as their once a time pony spin tricks don't come off everytime. Nor do they have anyone in their lineup batting wise. They'll run teams close like they did us but beyond that my money is on BD
 
BD have been around for a long time yet their progress is hardly visible in stark contrast to Afghanistan.

On top of that, BD is a weak mentality team which is very hard to change even with great coaching and other external factors.

The mentally strong team team won only one match in ODI WCs, with the solitary win being by 1 wicket against Scotland.
 
An unexpected loss for BD against depleted WI side at home.

Though Afg was also defeated by WI against India but that was a full strength WI side. And Afg has also defeated BD in their only meeting.

Is it safe to say that Afghanistan is a slightly better test side than BD?
 
Both team on equal footings as of now...so the battle in next 5 years will be interesting.
 
Afghanistan has a lot of talent but its players are not level headed.This could be due to lack of experience.They want to throw their bat at every ball and throw their wickets.
 
Afghanistan lost to Zim by 10 wickets in UAE

Both teams have been poor in recent times
 
Afghanistan lost to Zim by 10 wickets in UAE

Both teams have been poor in recent times

Afghanistan were thrashed by West Indies too in the Test match in 2019

Both Afghanistan & Bangladesh seem to be poor in Tests but Bangladesh are better as they have beaten Australia & England at home, Afghanistan still have some way to go before they become competitive in Tests
 
I may be wrong but I think BD seniors has a very negative attitude towards test cricket, not so long ago the same BD achieved test match victories against Aus and Eng and have regressed a lot since then despite maintaining more or less the same team.
 
Afghanistan were thrashed by West Indies too in the Test match in 2019

Both Afghanistan & Bangladesh seem to be poor in Tests but Bangladesh are better as they have beaten Australia & England at home, Afghanistan still have some way to go before they become competitive in Tests

Bangladesh haven't built on their success in the mid 2015-2017. They have been poor across all formats with just one here and there.
 
I may be wrong but I think BD seniors has a very negative attitude towards test cricket, not so long ago the same BD achieved test match victories against Aus and Eng and have regressed a lot since then despite maintaining more or less the same team.

They are not producing great results in white ball either. They are currently almost at the same level as Afghanistan across all formats.
 
Bangladesh looks like they can be among Top 5 teams alongwith India, Australia, England and New Zealand in coming years

Earlier they used to do well only at home but in recent months, they have started doing well in foreign conditions as well. They beat New Zealand in New Zealand in a Test match and now they beat South Africa 2-1 in ODIs, including thrashing them by 9 wickets in the 3rd ODI

Also Liton Das looks like he is living upto his potential and becoming a solid batsman. Others like Afif Hussain, Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Taskin Ahmed have also performed when needed showing that the next generation is stepping up too

What Bangladesh needs is some hard hitting batsman or batting AR who can do the role of a finisher. The batsmen they have are more of busy batsmen who like to take 1s & 2s and score at a decent rate and once they have hard hitters, they will be tough to beat in limited overs
 
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Afghanistan have far more talent than Bangladesh but Bangladesh have more resources and better political stability.

Bangladesh will likely be ahead as Afghans have plenty of non-cricket issues.
 
All teams have their peaks and dips. Right now Bangladesh are on a peak and look like world beaters. Inevitably they will have a dip in form again and look like "minnows". Same with all teams really.

So far, Bangladesh have been at the highest level of cricket for 25 years, and Afghanistan for about 7-10. What has Afghanistan achieved in their first decade?

- Test win in Bangladesh vs full strength BD team
- Test wins vs Ireland and Zimbabwe
- 4-5 players in IPL/BBL type leagues

To be fair the only achievement in that list is the Test win against Bangladesh. They've been torrid in their first two ODI world cups, and even in their "strong" format of T20, they have only beaten the top 8 teams 3 times out of 18 matches. They are marginally better than Bangladesh of 2005-2008 (at a similar stage in their development in terms of time) who had beaten Pakistan, India, South Africa in world cups, and Australia in ODIs.

So personally, I wouldn't say that Afghanistan have developed faster than Bangladesh to date. The data simply doesn't support that conclusion.

However, I think that they've done remarkably well for a war-torn country that never plays at home, and from that perspective, yes I highly doubt Bangladesh would have done as well in the same situation.

At present, in 2022, both teams seem to have potential to improve:

Afghanistan have very good spinners, particularly wrist spinners. I wouldn't call them world class until they perform against teams like India or Australia or in conditions like South Africa or New Zealand, but they are very handy. I would also have to see how the spinners do in Test matches and they just haven't played enough to be able to really tell.

Afghanistan has limited pace talent, but the young Fazalhaq Farooqi is a bright spot. Has good pace, and can move the ball. In red ball, Yamin Ahmedzai has gotten off to a good start but again 11 wickets in 5 Tests is just too early to say if he's world class or not.

The batting is largely Associate level with few exceptions. Ibrahim Zadran looks to be a very talented youngster at the top of the order, and there is of course Rahmat Shah. But a team will need at least 3-4 and ideally 5 or 6 batters capable of scoring hundreds to be competitive with the top 8 teams. Afghanistan are IMO at least 1-2 batters short of that.

Bangladesh currently look a very polished unit. The batting lineup is full of guys who can could all top score on a given day with the likes of Shanto, Liton, and Miraz all having scored Test centuries in recent times to go with Tamim, Mushfiq, and Mominul. The spinners are good, if not world class, with the talented Nayeem Hasan backing up Shakib, Taijul, and Miraz. The pace attack is better than ever before with Ebadat and Taskin being genuinely quick 140-145 bowlers, Shoriful providing control, and Abu Jayed swing.

I think Bangladesh has the depth to be a top 5-6 ODI team and a top 6-8 Test side at the very least for the intermediate term future. If they can discover a few more talents, they could go even higher.
 
Afghanistan has outperformed Bangladesh in the Asia Cup. They clearly look the better T20 side.
 
BD because of economy. By 2030, BD will be a USD 1trillion dollar economy in real terms. We will leave Lanka, Pk and of course Afghanistan behind.
 
Aage Aage dekho hota hai kya
fast forward to 2023

Afghanistan has defeated England and Pakistan

Bangladesh has been outclassed by 4 out of 5 teams they have faced

Though Bangladesh has a victory Afghanistan
 
Afghanistan has surpassed Bangladesh in all sense of game

They still somehow lost to BD in Asia Cup and this World Cup.

I think Afghanistan are better than BD if pitch is spin-friendly. But, on a flat pitch (where their spinners aren't effective), BD are better.
 
In terms of covering all the bases Afghanistan are improving faster. Their temperament is the one area that needs to be improved. But looking at pakistan chase they are getting better there as well. But still inconsistent.
 
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