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The ICC’s favoritism towards the BCCI has never been more obvious than in this tournament. The entire scheduling reeks of an attempt to give India every possible advantage, and this move to hold all of India’s games in Dubai just reinforces the idea that the ICC is little more than an extension of the BCCI. It’s one thing to ensure a strong cricketing powerhouse like India has good facilities, but to outright hand them a tailored path to the trophy? That’s beyond ridiculous.

Let’s break it down. When India hosted the 2021 T20 World Cup in the UAE due to COVID-19, they had three perfectly functional venues—Dubai, Abu Dhabi, and Sharjah. Matches were distributed across these stadiums, keeping the tournament competitive and ensuring fair conditions for all teams. But this time? Suddenly, ICC seems to have “forgotten” that the UAE has multiple grounds. Why? Because Dubai historically offers the best batting conditions, and guess which team benefits the most from that?

Sharjah, known for its unpredictable pitches and lower-scoring games, could have been a nightmare for India’s stroke players, especially against a disciplined bowling attack like Bangladesh’s. Abu Dhabi, which historically has assisted pacers and made chasing tricky, could have thrown a real challenge against a well-rounded New Zealand side. But no, India conveniently plays every single game in Dubai—the most batting-friendly, high-scoring ground in the UAE—ensuring their top-order doesn’t struggle with any tricky conditions.

And where were the other seven boards? How did they not raise an issue with this blatant favoritism? Either they were ignored, or they were too spineless to stand up to the financial muscle of the BCCI. Because let’s be honest—when the BCCI speaks, the ICC listens. India’s unmatched revenue generation for global cricket means their demands are rarely questioned, even when it comes at the expense of a fair tournament.

A more neutral, fair schedule should have seen

VS Bangladesh (Sharjah)
India facing Bangladesh in Sharjah, where tougher batting conditions and Bangladesh’s spinners could have been a real threat.

VS Pakistan (Dubai)
Their clash with Pakistan could have stayed in Dubai for the sake of maximizing audience and revenue, but that’s it.

VS NZ (Abu Dhabi)
The match against New Zealand should have been played in Abu Dhabi, a venue that offers assistance to both batters and bowlers, making it an even contest.

Semi final (Abu Dhabi)*
If India made it to the semi-finals, they should have had to play in Abu Dhabi, preventing any guaranteed Dubai boost.

Final (Dubai)*
Only if they fairly earned their way to the final should they have played it in Dubai, as finals are usually held at premier venues.

This setup would have added much-needed variety and fairness to the tournament. But instead, ICC handed India a smooth ride on a silver platter.

It’s not even subtle anymore. The BCCI’s influence over the ICC is at an all-time high, and this is just another example of how tournaments are being tailored to favor India. If this trend continues, what’s next? A T20 World Cup where India gets to pick their own venues and opponents? Because at this rate, we’re not far from that reality
 
Do you know why Dubai was selected, because it promised most ticket sales.

Just that.

And looking at the turnout for other Champion trophy matches, that wouldn't have been a bad deal.
 
They did the same in t20WC, got their games at desired venues that's their new gimmicky
 
Its what happens when you let a 3rd world country have influence over a sport.

Even if the Indians were in control of football, it would have been reduced to this.

Please stop with this 3rd world country argument.

Power lies with the power holder.
History has enough evidences to suggest that whosoever holds the power wields it for his own sake.

As did Europe, as did Ottomans, so did USA .

Please give this holier than thou attitude some rest.
 
And takey advice, if you really want to improve your standing in world of cricket,


Start by improving your team, not crying a river with every move.
 
The ICC’s favoritism towards the BCCI has never been more obvious than in this tournament. The entire scheduling reeks of an attempt to give India every possible advantage, and this move to hold all of India’s games in Dubai just reinforces the idea that the ICC is little more than an extension of the BCCI. It’s one thing to ensure a strong cricketing powerhouse like India has good facilities, but to outright hand them a tailored path to the trophy? That’s beyond ridiculous.

Let’s break it down. When India hosted the 2021 T20 World Cup in the UAE due to COVID-19, they had three perfectly functional venues—Dubai, Abu Dhabi, and Sharjah. Matches were distributed across these stadiums, keeping the tournament competitive and ensuring fair conditions for all teams. But this time? Suddenly, ICC seems to have “forgotten” that the UAE has multiple grounds. Why? Because Dubai historically offers the best batting conditions, and guess which team benefits the most from that?

Sharjah, known for its unpredictable pitches and lower-scoring games, could have been a nightmare for India’s stroke players, especially against a disciplined bowling attack like Bangladesh’s. Abu Dhabi, which historically has assisted pacers and made chasing tricky, could have thrown a real challenge against a well-rounded New Zealand side. But no, India conveniently plays every single game in Dubai—the most batting-friendly, high-scoring ground in the UAE—ensuring their top-order doesn’t struggle with any tricky conditions.

And where were the other seven boards? How did they not raise an issue with this blatant favoritism? Either they were ignored, or they were too spineless to stand up to the financial muscle of the BCCI. Because let’s be honest—when the BCCI speaks, the ICC listens. India’s unmatched revenue generation for global cricket means their demands are rarely questioned, even when it comes at the expense of a fair tournament.

A more neutral, fair schedule should have seen

VS Bangladesh (Sharjah)
India facing Bangladesh in Sharjah, where tougher batting conditions and Bangladesh’s spinners could have been a real threat.

VS Pakistan (Dubai)
Their clash with Pakistan could have stayed in Dubai for the sake of maximizing audience and revenue, but that’s it.

VS NZ (Abu Dhabi)
The match against New Zealand should have been played in Abu Dhabi, a venue that offers assistance to both batters and bowlers, making it an even contest.

Semi final (Abu Dhabi)*
If India made it to the semi-finals, they should have had to play in Abu Dhabi, preventing any guaranteed Dubai boost.

Final (Dubai)*
Only if they fairly earned their way to the final should they have played it in Dubai, as finals are usually held at premier venues.

This setup would have added much-needed variety and fairness to the tournament. But instead, ICC handed India a smooth ride on a silver platter.

It’s not even subtle anymore. The BCCI’s influence over the ICC is at an all-time high, and this is just another example of how tournaments are being tailored to favor India. If this trend continues, what’s next? A T20 World Cup where India gets to pick their own venues and opponents? Because at this rate, we’re not far from that reality
Stopped reading after BD and disciplined attack were mentioned, utter nonsense and tosh
 
The only crying is from Indians when Pakistan hosts a cricket match. What a hateful bunch you are. The rest of the cricketing world sees it now too.
It's caution not crying. Pakistan isn't safe for Indian Cricketers despite the social media drama we see. No one is buying that.
 
I am getting bored of reading the same kind of threads every day. I have no idea how many threads have been opened on PP about BCCI and ICC. Why don’t you guys merge them? You often see these kinds of threads regularly. :ssmith
 
BCCI certainly influences the ICC.

This was obvious with the hybrid model and everything associated with its formation. Imagine if a team like Bangladesh or Afghanistan tried pulling a stunt like this.

However, I don't think the BCCI had as big of a role in the matches being hosted in Dubai. I say this because things were hastily organized to have the matches in Dubai. They wanted to simplify things as much as possible including hotels, travel, and venue.

Plus, the ICC HQ is also in Dubai making things easier for them.

Matches in Sharjah and Abu Dhabi would have added logistical hurdles they likely didn't want to deal with. Especially for a second-tier ICC tournament such as this one.

As a viewer, it would have been great, but I don't think it was feasible for the ICC.

The ICC isn't clever and has a braindead approach to these things. It usually cares about two factors - India vs Pakistan matches (need at least one per tournament) and having optimal timings for all other Indian matches.
 
The ICC’s favoritism towards the BCCI has never been more obvious than in this tournament. The entire scheduling reeks of an attempt to give India every possible advantage, and this move to hold all of India’s games in Dubai just reinforces the idea that the ICC is little more than an extension of the BCCI. It’s one thing to ensure a strong cricketing powerhouse like India has good facilities, but to outright hand them a tailored path to the trophy? That’s beyond ridiculous.

Let’s break it down. When India hosted the 2021 T20 World Cup in the UAE due to COVID-19, they had three perfectly functional venues—Dubai, Abu Dhabi, and Sharjah. Matches were distributed across these stadiums, keeping the tournament competitive and ensuring fair conditions for all teams. But this time? Suddenly, ICC seems to have “forgotten” that the UAE has multiple grounds. Why? Because Dubai historically offers the best batting conditions, and guess which team benefits the most from that?

Sharjah, known for its unpredictable pitches and lower-scoring games, could have been a nightmare for India’s stroke players, especially against a disciplined bowling attack like Bangladesh’s. Abu Dhabi, which historically has assisted pacers and made chasing tricky, could have thrown a real challenge against a well-rounded New Zealand side. But no, India conveniently plays every single game in Dubai—the most batting-friendly, high-scoring ground in the UAE—ensuring their top-order doesn’t struggle with any tricky conditions.

And where were the other seven boards? How did they not raise an issue with this blatant favoritism? Either they were ignored, or they were too spineless to stand up to the financial muscle of the BCCI. Because let’s be honest—when the BCCI speaks, the ICC listens. India’s unmatched revenue generation for global cricket means their demands are rarely questioned, even when it comes at the expense of a fair tournament.

A more neutral, fair schedule should have seen

VS Bangladesh (Sharjah)
India facing Bangladesh in Sharjah, where tougher batting conditions and Bangladesh’s spinners could have been a real threat.

VS Pakistan (Dubai)
Their clash with Pakistan could have stayed in Dubai for the sake of maximizing audience and revenue, but that’s it.

VS NZ (Abu Dhabi)
The match against New Zealand should have been played in Abu Dhabi, a venue that offers assistance to both batters and bowlers, making it an even contest.

Semi final (Abu Dhabi)*
If India made it to the semi-finals, they should have had to play in Abu Dhabi, preventing any guaranteed Dubai boost.

Final (Dubai)*
Only if they fairly earned their way to the final should they have played it in Dubai, as finals are usually held at premier venues.

This setup would have added much-needed variety and fairness to the tournament. But instead, ICC handed India a smooth ride on a silver platter.

It’s not even subtle anymore. The BCCI’s influence over the ICC is at an all-time high, and this is just another example of how tournaments are being tailored to favor India. If this trend continues, what’s next? A T20 World Cup where India gets to pick their own venues and opponents? Because at this rate, we’re not far from that reality

Very clever cherry picking and chosing 2021 t20 wc...

any ways - bhaijaan - please comment on the below.....

:gilly
2024 ODI WC Travel schedule

Bangladesh :
Kms travelled
1) BD vs AFG - Dharmshala, Himachal Pradesh - 7 oct 23 0 Kms
2) BD vs ENG - Dharmshala, Himachal Pradesh - 10 oct 23 0 Kms
3) BD vs NZ - Chennai, Tamil Nadu - - 13 oct 23 2169 kms
4) BD vs IND - Pune, Maharashtra - - 19 oct 23 912 Kms
5) BD vs SAF - Bombay, Maharashtra - - 24 oct 23 118 Kms
6) BD vs NED - Kolkata, West Bengal - -28 oct 23 1652 Kms
7) BD vs PAK - Kolkata, West Bengal - -31 oct 23 0 kms
8) BD vs SL - Delhi, Delhi State - - 6 Nov 23 1305 kms
9) BD vs AUS - Pune, Maharashtra - - 11 Nov 23 1173 kms

Total Kms travelled by Bangladesh in 2023 ODI WC - 7329 Kms
Number of instances of consecutive matches in same city - Two


Pakistan :-

1) PAK vs NED - Hyderabad, Telengana - 6 Oct 23 0 Kms
2) PAK vs SL - Hyderabad, Telengana - 10 Oct 23 0 Kms
3) PAK vs IND - Ahmedabad, Gujarat - 14 Oct 23 876 Kms
4) PAK vs AUS - Chennai, Tamil Naat - 20 Oct 23 1371 Kms
5) PAK vs AFG - Chennai, Tamil Naat - 23 Oct 23 0 Kms
6) PAK vs SAF - Chennai, Tamil Naat - 27 OCT 23 0 Kms
7) PAK vs BD - Kolkata, West Bengal - 31 oct 23 1366 kms
8) PAK vs NZ - Chennai, Tamil Naat - 4 Nov 23 1366 Kms
9) PAK vs ENG - Kolkata, West Bengal - 11 Nov 23 1366 Kms


Total Kms travelled by Pakistan in 2023 ODI WC = 6,345 KMS
Number of instances of consecutive matches in same city - 3

INDIA

1) IND VS AUS - Chennai, Tamil Naat - 8 Oct 23 0 Kms
2) IND vs AFG - Delhi, Delhi State - 11 Oct 23 1094 Kms
3) IND vs PAK - Ahmedabad, Gujarat - 14 Oct 23 775 Kms
4) IND vs BD - Pune, Maharashtra - 19 OCt 23 518 Kms
5) IND vs NZ - Dharmshala, Himachal Pradesh - 22 Oct 23 1543 Kms
6) IND vs ENG - Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh - 29 Oct 23 748 Kms
7) IND vs SL - Mumbai, Maharashtra - 2 Nov 23 1183 Kms
8) IND vs SAF - Kolkata, West Bengal - 5 Nov 34 1652 Kms
9) IND vs NED - Chennai, Tamil Naat - 12 Nov 23 1366 Kms

Total Kms travelled by India in GROUP STAGE 2023 ODI WC = 8879 KMS (The same stage as Pak and BD)

Number of instances of consecutive matches in same city - 0

India has travelled much more than Pak and BD in similar time period with ZERO instances of matches in same city.

We have not even calculated travel kms for - India vs NZ Semi finals - Mumbai, Maharashtra and India vs Aus - Finals, Ahmedabad, Gujarat state - because this is a comparison at the same group stage for all three nations.

*** distance was calculated on using search string " flying time from xyz to abc: and rounded off" *****


Hence amongst the three nations, at the group stage, please explain

Why did India make the semi finals & finals?

More importantly :

Why did Pak & BD not be the finalists?

Why did Pak or BD not even qualify for the Semis?


:dhoni
 
The difference between developed and developing nations is the rationality aspect of the country. This is why developing nations should not be given power as they start acting stupid and think everything is about money and not growth or expansion.

No wonder you will never see many businesses from the same countries have a big global presence liķe microsoft, apple or google does. Because these nations are not blinded by nationalism and enjoy growth. While others are blinded by nationalism and are so insecure that for them the country's label or dominance is more important
 
They did the same in t20WC, got their games at desired venues that's their new gimmicky
Really?

I'll make it easier for you as i am extrapolating and giving you facts....

please review and comment....


2024 WC - T20 :djb


Bangladesh KMS travelled

1) BD Vs SL Grand Prairie, Texas, USA - 8 June 2024 - 0 KMS
2) BD vs SAF Nassau, NY, USA - 11 June 2024 - 3641 KMs
3) BD vs NED St Vincent - 14 june 2024 - 3285 Kms
4) BD Vs NePal ST Vincent - 17 June 2024 - 0 KMS

Number of instances in the same city - Once.

Total kms travelled by Bangladesh for the same league stage as Pakistan & India = 6926KMS

Super Eights :

5) BD Vs AUS North Sound, Antigu - 21 june 2024 - 447 KMS
6) BD Vs IND North Sound, Antigua - 23 june 2024 - 0 KMS
7) BD vs AFG St Vincent 25 June 2024 - 447 KMS

Number of instances in same city - Once

Total KMS travelled by Bangladesh in Super 8s = 894Kms

Total Kms travelled by Bangladesh in T20 WC 2024 = 7820 KMS

Total Number of instances of consecutive matches in same city = Twice


Pakistan 2024 WC - T20

1) PAK vs USA - Grand Prairie, Texas, USA - 7 June, 2024 - 0 KMS
2) PAK vs IND - Nassau, NY, USA - 10 June, 2024 - 3461 KMS
3) PAK vs CAN - Nassau, NY, USA - 12 June, 2024 - 0 KMS
4) PAK vs IRE - Lauderhill, Florida, USA - 17 June, 2024 - 1720 KMS

Total Kms travelled by Pakistan in T20 WC 2024 = 5181 KMS

Number of instances of consecutive matches in same city = 1

Total kms travelled by Bangladesh for the same league stage as Pakistan = 6746 KMS

INDIA T20 WC

1) IND vs IRE - Nassau, NY, USA - 6 June 2024 - 0KMS
2) IND vs PAK - Nassau, NY, USA - 10 June, 2024 - 0KMS
4) IND vs USA - Nassau, NY, USA - 13 june 2024 - 0KMS
4) IND vs CAN - Lauderhill,Florida, USA 16 june2024-1720 KMS

Total KMS travelled by India for same leage stage as Pak and Bangladesh = 1720 KMS

Number of consecutive matches in same city - 3

So Basically, in the group stage, Bangladesh travelled the most Kms, Pak was 2nd and India travelled the least.

However, Pakistan took two flights, Bangladesh took two flights, whereas India took ONE flight.

difference of ONE flight between India and their neighbours...:gilly

Super eights :

5) IND VS AFG - Bridgetown, Barbadoes - 21 june 2024 - 2591 KMS
6) IND VS BD - North Sound, Antigua - 23 June 2024 - 502 KMS
7) IND VS AUS - St Lucia - 25 June 2024 - 356 KMS

Total KMS travelled by Bangladesh for super 8 stage = 894KMs
Total KMs travelled by India for super 8 stage = 3449 KMS

Number consecutive matches for India in same city = 0


8) IND VS ENG - SEMIFINAL - Georgetown, Guyana - 852KMS
9) IND vs SAF- FINAL - Bridgetown Barbados - 722 KMS

Total kms traveleld by INDIA in 2024 T 20 WC 6743 KMS

* distance calculated on using search string " flying time from xyz to abc: and rounded off" **

End result - India took ONE flight lesser in the group stage.

ONE FLIGHT!!!!



Please answer ;

If the difference was one flight, From group stage, Why did India make the Super 8's?

Why did BD make the super 8's?


Why did India Win the Semis and the finals?:ua

More Importantly :

Why did Pak not make the Super 8's, the semi finals & the finals ?

Why did BD not make the Semi finals & the finals?


In this example i have included the travel kms for India for Semi- finals and finals even though this is not comparative, as both Pak and BD did not make it to Semis and finals.

This is because my pak friend forwarded me a vdo of a pak talk show featuring mr Nadeem Rajput who amongst the usual conspiracy of BCCI > ICC , dissed off india's efforts in the 2024 T20 wc saying 'they played all their matches in NY"

- which you can see as above is factually incorrect

and he also mentioned India knew where their semis was going to be played.

However, the argument is all teams knew in advance which two cities/countries the semis and the finals were going to be played, well in advance.

What stopped them from selecting a team based on these venues?

Can you please ask Mr Naseem Rajput to hold his next discussion on the travel times and number of flights in the 2023 ODI WC or tell him & the others currently mouthing off in the same ecosystem to Zip it please?


:Dah
 
So essentially,

The criteria of ground selection would have been-
Select the ground where the opposition strength gets maximised against India


Yeah, that would be fair and not at all baised.
Not where the opposition strength is maximised? NZ in Sharjah or Bangladesh in Abu Dhabi could have been another alternative, and one semi at Abu Dhabi. Just adds a bit of variety to the tournament and keeps things neutral.

ICC selected Dubai as the ground for 5 games and India have been playing 4 spinners in the last few games because they know the conditions and pitch well, is that not selecting a ground where their team gets a clear advantage? Shifting around would have made the tournament more interesting.
 
Man : I want a hair cut

3 months after hair cut is done

Man: Why did you cut my hair.


;)
I’ve been saying it since day 1 tho since the schedule was announced. The other teams are traveling around so why couldn’t India travel within UAE? Sharjah is 30 mins drive from Dubai, Abu Dhabi is an hour. These places aren’t far. This topic started picking up heat after the miller and Cummins comment.
 
I’ve been saying it since day 1 tho since the schedule was announced. The other teams are traveling around so why couldn’t India travel within UAE? Sharjah is 30 mins drive from Dubai, Abu Dhabi is an hour. These places aren’t far. This topic started picking up heat after the miller and Cummins comment.
I’m sure you offered to split the bill for organizing matches in different cities.
 
And takey advice, if you really want to improve your standing in world of cricket,


Start by improving your team, not crying a river with every move.
Funny how you’ve just assumed I’m a Pakistan fan just cause I’m on this thread. I’m born and raised in NZ and the kiwis always give India a fight in ICC tournaments and recently beat India 3-0 in tests in India. For a country with a population of 5 million they punch well above their weight in most sports.

Bring on Sunday, it won’t be a walk in the park. The same overconfidence cost India the 2017 CT final.
 
I’m sure you offered to split the bill for organizing matches in different cities.
lol.. the ICC is loaded with money.. how hard is it to organize a few games at different venues? Sharjah is 30 mins drive from Dubai. Abu Dhabi is 1 hour. If they wanted to they would but they chose the option that benefits India the most and the whole world can see it.
 
2021 had multiple teams stationed in UAE and all matches were in UAE.

CT had only one team stationed in UAE and only 4-5 matches were scheduled in UAE.

OPs wish had been fulfilled if the entire event had been shifted to UAE.
 
lol.. the ICC is loaded with money.. how hard is it to organize a few games at different venues? Sharjah is 30 mins drive from Dubai. Abu Dhabi is 1 hour. If they wanted to they would but they chose the option that benefits India the most and the whole world can see it.

And that money is to go to different boards to run the game. Not to fulfill your whims.
 
lol.. the ICC is loaded with money.. how hard is it to organize a few games at different venues? Sharjah is 30 mins drive from Dubai. Abu Dhabi is 1 hour. If they wanted to they would but they chose the option that benefits India the most and the whole world can see it.
They chose the option that saves them money.
 
I’ve been saying it since day 1 tho since the schedule was announced. The other teams are traveling around so why couldn’t India travel within UAE? Sharjah is 30 mins drive from Dubai, Abu Dhabi is an hour. These places aren’t far. This topic started picking up heat after the miller and Cummins comment.
You know the logistical challenges, financial overheads involved in creating artificial external inconvenience to Indian team? Other teams can also play on the same ground. Why didn't PCB schedule that way? A) You have too many teams B) You want audience from other cities getting opportunity to see them. There is no such compulsion here. Because UAE is not playing this tournament. They are just being hosts. It would be stupid to host in multiple cities just for one team.
 
Do you know why Dubai was selected, because it promised most ticket sales.

Just that.

And looking at the turnout for other Champion trophy matches, that wouldn't have been a bad deal.
Apart from the Pakistan game and the semi the ground has been half filled at best.

Most of my Indian friends also agree moving around UAE at different grounds would have made the tournament more interesting.
 
Should have mandated 10 mile run a night before, an automatic bucket bath in bed at 4 am the day of the match to create equal trouble.
 
They did the same in t20WC, got their games at desired venues that's their new gimmicky
It’s their new way of ensuring India get every advantage. For the past decade India have also played the last group game against a weaker opposition to ensure they can improve their NRR if they needed to.
 
True but it’s not that expensive to host a few games (30 mins and 1 hour away) they also did it to allow India the comfort and advantage of Dubai
Have you organized any large event my friend? Different cities means different security contract, different hotels, different caterer, different ground staff, different stadium logistics, different practice pitches rentals … now do that for different teams traveling. You didn’t think it through, ICC did. Some things go beyond pleasing a board - ICC was already p.i.s.s.e.d off having to hold it outside Pakistan and adding more cities would add to their costs and lesser money for participating countries.
 
Have you organized any large event my friend? Different cities means different security contract, different hotels, different caterer, different ground staff, different stadium logistics, different practice pitches rentals … now do that for different teams traveling. You didn’t think it through, ICC did. Some things go beyond pleasing a board - ICC was already p.i.s.s.e.d off having to hold it outside Pakistan and adding more cities would add to their costs and lesser money for participating countries.
This is why not a single cricket board say anything about it. Couple of cricketers have made a casual remark. If someone is wilfully ignorant can't really do much.
 
And that money is to go to different boards to run the game. Not to fulfill your whims.
Fulfill my wishes? The whole world can see the advantage the ICC gives India almost every tournament.

Even my Indian friends all agree different venues in UAE would have made the tournament more interesting.

No one is buying the excuse of logistics and saving money. It’s like a toxic corporation saying yes we made record profits this year but for the Christmas party let’s hold it in the office with pizza and drinks to enjoy the office collaboration and view?? Just to save money on outside venues 😂
 
BCCI certainly influences the ICC.

This was obvious with the hybrid model and everything associated with its formation. Imagine if a team like Bangladesh or Afghanistan tried pulling a stunt like this.

However, I don't think the BCCI had as big of a role in the matches being hosted in Dubai. I say this because things were hastily organized to have the matches in Dubai. They wanted to simplify things as much as possible including hotels, travel, and venue.

Plus, the ICC HQ is also in Dubai making things easier for them.

Matches in Sharjah and Abu Dhabi would have added logistical hurdles they likely didn't want to deal with. Especially for a second-tier ICC tournament such as this one.

As a viewer, it would have been great, but I don't think it was feasible for the ICC.

The ICC isn't clever and has a braindead approach to these things. It usually cares about two factors - India vs Pakistan matches (need at least one per tournament) and having optimal timings for all other Indian matches.
100% agree. I’m talking from a viewers perspective. All my Indian friends also agreed different venues make the tournament more interesting.

It’s the ICCs approach that is disappointing that these things don’t even register with them when planning. They have the funds but are like any other greedy corporation.
 
Broadcasters also wield enormous power and their influence should be curbed. India NZ group match should have been scheduled on Saturday instead
 
And takey advice, if you really want to improve your standing in world of cricket,


Start by improving your team, not crying a river with every move.
That advice should go to us.

We have all the money in the world and yet we never got close to the great Aussie, Windies or Saffa sides.
 
That advice should go to us.

We have all the money in the world and yet we never got close to the great Aussie, Windies or Saffa sides.
White ball cricket India has more trophies than Windies and Saffas (In fact has same number as Windies+Saffas combined and basically the same trophies - 2 ODI WC, 2 T20 WC, 2 CT).

Test cricket 15-21 Ind team is as good as 07-14 SA side.

15-21 won all home series and lost 3 away (SA 18, Eng 18, NZ 20). won/drew others.

07-14 never lost away (won/draw) but lost at home to Aus twice (09, 14) and drew a lot at home (Eng 09, Ind 11).

One was better away. One at home.

Ofc 80s WI and 00s Aus still the best.

Also the money in India is a recent phenomenon. Cricket will continue to be played.
 
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Cricket have had 3 eras --> amateur era (1877-1975), golden era (1975-2014), and paindoo era (2014 - present). :inti

As far as ICC goes, it is obviously not independent currently. ICC has become BCCICC. :inti
 
Is it just me or the BCCI/ICC shenanigans are now not being liked by non-Indians.

I would like Team India to not depend on power nor on money to win. It would be great to win when the odds are actually against Team India and they dont have much support similar to how the great Windies or Aussie sides used to defy the odds.

However, I think our team is just going to continue benefitting from lots of funding and player support while the rest of the world starts seeing cricket as not a global sport but an Indian sport.
 
Is it just me or the BCCI/ICC shenanigans are now not being liked by non-Indians.

I would like Team India to not depend on power nor on money to win. It would be great to win when the odds are actually against Team India and they dont have much support similar to how the great Windies or Aussie sides used to defy the odds.

However, I think our team is just going to continue benefitting from lots of funding and player support while the rest of the world starts seeing cricket as not a global sport but an Indian sport.
Non-Indians don't even watch cricket.

In SENAW it is a niche sport.

Indian subcontinent it is a main sport but India is like 80% of the economy of the Indian subcontinent.
 
White ball cricket India has more trophies than Windies and Saffas (In fact has same number as Windies+Saffas combined and basically the same trophies - 2 ODI WC, 2 T20 WC, 2 CT).

Test cricket 15-21 Ind team is as good as 07-14 SA side.

15-21 won all home series and lost 3 away (SA 18, Eng 18, NZ 20). won/drew others.

07-14 never lost away (won/draw) but lost at home to Aus twice (09, 14) and drew a lot at home (Eng 09, Ind 11).

One was better away. one at home.

Ofc 80s WI and 00s Aus still the best.

Also the money in India is a recent phenomenon. Cricket will continue to be played.
The money in India cricket has been phenomena since at least the first IPL. I can argue even previous to that but post IPL it really took off and allowed us to have a big leeway of broadcast control on world cricket with our population.

The great Windies and Saffa sides had away records and won matches in hostile condition which current Team India should win easily with a the favoritism we get and money we have.

However, we lost the BGT comprehensively and despite having an experienced side against the Aussies, we still could not overcome them.

We can literally spend billions on analytics and know opposition player's hair strands and what bodywash they use but still can't capitalize on the data.

We do come ultra prepared with the data at times such as this ICC event but we also have to tilt the odds tremendously in our favor to really benefit.

For me, growing up seeing the great Aussie side, I realized that what they relish was the challenge to win when the odds were completely stacked against them.

I remember how the Aussie side used to call India the final frontier because they knew it was a tough challenge to beat a very strong Indian side on rank turners or dustbowls.

When we started making money, I thought that's it now we will be seeing many of our doemstic players go on to play worldwide and also relish the toughest of toughest of challenges.

Rather I see a board and team that wants to win as risk free as possible and make a lot of moolah in the process.
 
The money in India cricket has been phenomena since at least the first IPL. I can argue even previous to that but post IPL it really took off and allowed us to have a big leeway of broadcast control on world cricket with our population.

The great Windies and Saffa sides had away records and won matches in hostile condition which current Team India should win easily with a the favoritism we get and money we have.

However, we lost the BGT comprehensively and despite having an experienced side against the Aussies, we still could not overcome them.

We can literally spend billions on analytics and know opposition player's hair strands and what bodywash they use but still can't capitalize on the data.

We do come ultra prepared with the data at times such as this ICC event but we also have to tilt the odds tremendously in our favor to really benefit.

For me, growing up seeing the great Aussie side, I realized that what they relish was the challenge to win when the odds were completely stacked against them.

I remember how the Aussie side used to call India the final frontier because they knew it was a tough challenge to beat a very strong Indian side on rank turners or dustbowls.

When we started making money, I thought that's it now we will be seeing many of our doemstic players go on to play worldwide and also relish the toughest of toughest of challenges.

Rather I see a board and team that wants to win as risk free as possible and make a lot of moolah in the process.

I didn't realize beating Australia in Australia series after series that too with out of form players, without support bowlers is such an easy thing. Wonder why others are not doing it. You probably stopped watching cricket in 2000.
 
The money in India cricket has been phenomena since at least the first IPL. I can argue even previous to that but post IPL it really took off and allowed us to have a big leeway of broadcast control on world cricket with our population.

The great Windies and Saffa sides had away records and won matches in hostile condition which current Team India should win easily with a the favoritism we get and money we have.

However, we lost the BGT comprehensively and despite having an experienced side against the Aussies, we still could not overcome them.

We can literally spend billions on analytics and know opposition player's hair strands and what bodywash they use but still can't capitalize on the data.

We do come ultra prepared with the data at times such as this ICC event but we also have to tilt the odds tremendously in our favor to really benefit.

For me, growing up seeing the great Aussie side, I realized that what they relish was the challenge to win when the odds were completely stacked against them.

I remember how the Aussie side used to call India the final frontier because they knew it was a tough challenge to beat a very strong Indian side on rank turners or dustbowls.

When we started making money, I thought that's it now we will be seeing many of our doemstic players go on to play worldwide and also relish the toughest of toughest of challenges.

Rather I see a board and team that wants to win as risk free as possible and make a lot of moolah in the process.
When did this happen?

This was a clearly an in transition side with a bunch of older players (debuted in the early 2010s) and a bunch of newer ones (debuted in the 2020s). The Indian team in their 15-21 heyday (Kohli captaincy) beat Australia in Australia twice.

As that team has aged and lots of the key players have left the results have suffered just like it did for that SA side (2015 loss vs Ind 0-3, 2016 loss vs Eng 1-2)

And there is no comparison between the Saffa and Windies sides. Windies sides were undefeated home and away for 15 years and had a W/L ratio above 4.

Saffa side was good away but they were weaker at home and lost/drew series. Ind won everything at home and won a lot away but lost a few. Those two sides are same level in my opinion. The Indian team actually had a better overall W/L ratio too.

07-14 SA

W/L - 2.666
Home - 2.2
Away - 3.6

15-21 Ind

W/L - 2.866
Home - 13
Away - 1.307


Also the money might be a phenomenon in the IPL but it takes a while to trickle through. It is apparent now where the current India is the greatest T20 team ever winning a WC undefeated and having an insane W/L ratio even while resting lots of main players.

The India team has been becoming better since the 2000s and will continue to do so.
 
Apart from the Pakistan game and the semi the ground has been half filled at best.

Most of my Indian friends also agree moving around UAE at different grounds would have made the tournament more interesting.
The India vs NZ game was jam packed. Coz it was scheduled on a Sunday.

Don't remember the Bangladesh one, but who cares about that.

The semi was empty during the day, working day, but was filled eventually.

The real motive is money.

You are looking at the wrong intent, intent was just money.
 
Funny how you’ve just assumed I’m a Pakistan fan just cause I’m on this thread. I’m born and raised in NZ and the kiwis always give India a fight in ICC tournaments and recently beat India 3-0 in tests in India. For a country with a population of 5 million they punch well above their weight in most sports.

Bring on Sunday, it won’t be a walk in the park. The same overconfidence cost India the 2017 CT final.
Look, it was a fair assumption,

Yes, it is commendable that kiwi's have lifted their game in the last 20 years.

India and Kiwi's are the only two improved cricking countries.

Most of them have regressed.
 
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That advice should go to us.

We have all the money in the world and yet we never got close to the great Aussie, Windies or Saffa sides.
Have you seen the 90s team, then you would have seen the 00s team, and now the latest crop.

I see improvement all around,

Growth is incremental and non linear.
As long as the trend is in the right direction, money well spent.
 
Is it just me or the BCCI/ICC shenanigans are now not being liked by non-Indians.

I would like Team India to not depend on power nor on money to win. It would be great to win when the odds are actually against Team India and they dont have much support similar to how the great Windies or Aussie sides used to defy the odds.

However, I think our team is just going to continue benefitting from lots of funding and player support while the rest of the world starts seeing cricket as not a global sport but an Indian sport.

Yes. We non-Indians are not happy with current status quo. It is too tilted toward Indian interests. Things have become very farcical.

The other day, I saw an Aussie fan complaining about it on Facebook. Indian users started to attack him (predictably) but he had a good point.

I think ICC is losing credibility and BCCI/India is losing support. :inti
 
BCCI has a huge influence on ICC and if there is any person who thinks that there is nothing like that then he is living in delusion.

It is all money that BCCI brings to the table and world needs money and this is how the system works. BCCI has influence because they have money. Nothing wrong if you have money.
 
BCCI has a huge influence on ICC and if there is any person who thinks that there is nothing like that then he is living in delusion.

It is all money that BCCI brings to the table and world needs money and this is how the system works. BCCI has influence because they have money. Nothing wrong if you have money.

All cricket boards are only in it for money. After all boards are run by human beings who want money. Many cricketing boards are bankrupt. So if hosting on a specific day at specific venue brings ICC extra 5 million dollar they will run with it. Over all ICC benefits from it. In turn other cricket boards benefit from it. The problem for me is twisting this as BCCI altering schedule to benefit Indian team which is flat out untrue. Any benefit Indian team gets from these moves are incidental. Not deliberate.BCCI is not Indian cricket team. Indian team never asks to play at certain venues. They will play wherever they are told to.
 
Its what happens when you let a 3rd world country have influence over a sport.

Even if the Indians were in control of football, it would have been reduced to this.
Reduced to what? A sports where you guys cannot even compete in the game you yourself invented?
 
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All cricket boards are only in it for money. After all boards are run by human beings who want money. Many cricketing boards are bankrupt. So if hosting on a specific day at specific venue brings ICC extra 5 million dollar they will run with it. Over all ICC benefits from it. In turn other cricket boards benefit from it. The problem for me is twisting this as BCCI altering schedule to benefit Indian team which is flat out untrue. Any benefit Indian team gets from these moves are incidental. Not deliberate.BCCI is not Indian cricket team. Indian team never asks to play at certain venues. They will play wherever they are told to.
Exactly, every single board is doing this for money, no one is going this for charity.

The biggest whiners English are the one who brought abominations like the hundred to earn money.

The temper tantrums are because the country bringing highest revenue has highest power, which they are not able to digest.
 
Fulfill my wishes? The whole world can see the advantage the ICC gives India almost every tournament.

Even my Indian friends all agree different venues in UAE would have made the tournament more interesting.

No one is buying the excuse of logistics and saving money. It’s like a toxic corporation saying yes we made record profits this year but for the Christmas party let’s hold it in the office with pizza and drinks to enjoy the office collaboration and view?? Just to save money on outside venues 😂


There's always some Indian friends of pakistanis who agree with their views that's against India. Always. Let's leave it at that.

No one is asking you to buy anything. ICC and it's members decided to hold CT matches in Dubai. That's that. They approved extra funds for the shift to Dubai.

They are already reeling from the $20mn extra spend from the 2024 T20WC.

PCB has already overshot it's ICC given budget for stadium renovation.

As i said, opinion costs nothing.
 
It’s their new way of ensuring India get every advantage. For the past decade India have also played the last group game against a weaker opposition to ensure they can improve their NRR if they needed to.
You know the only and only reason for this arrangement was because india will not travel to pakistan and nothing else. Having multiple venues in UAE would just affect PCB pocket more and cause them to lose money.

Yet you lie and pretend it was to give india advantage. No one can discuss or debate with someone acting in bad faith.
 
Yes. We non-Indians are not happy with current status quo. It is too tilted toward Indian interests. Things have become very farcical.

The other day, I saw an Aussie fan complaining about it on Facebook. Indian users started to attack him (predictably) but he had a good point.

I think ICC is losing credibility and BCCI/India is losing support. :inti
Unfortunately, that how life works. Growing up I had a multi millionaire friend whose father donated a lot to school and he got special treatment.

I didn't cry and whine and spoil my own career or lose interest in education because of that.
 
Pakistanis will whine a lot, but won't invest in Cricket.
They should be the last ones to whine because they knew every step of what was happening with scheduling in december itself. They knew the scheduling. They were well aware of all the scenarios like "what will happen if both India and pakistan reach the final". Now after getting humiliated they are using this to vent their frustrations. New zealanders didn't make a fuss about it.
 
They should be the last ones to whine because they knew every step of what was happening with scheduling in december itself. They knew the scheduling. They were well aware of all the scenarios like "what will happen if both India and pakistan reach the final". Now after getting humiliated they are using this to vent their frustrations. New zealanders didn't make a fuss about it.
Don't these guys get tired after sooking so much about scheduling despite knowing the exact schedule since December itself!

Also, this almighty sook started only after their sorry team got bundled out of the tournament which was being hosted by them without winning single game!

Now, whose fault was it? Certainly not India's or its power!
 
The ICC’s favoritism towards the BCCI has never been more obvious than in this tournament. The entire scheduling reeks of an attempt to give India every possible advantage, and this move to hold all of India’s games in Dubai just reinforces the idea that the ICC is little more than an extension of the BCCI. It’s one thing to ensure a strong cricketing powerhouse like India has good facilities, but to outright hand them a tailored path to the trophy? That’s beyond ridiculous.

Let’s break it down. When India hosted the 2021 T20 World Cup in the UAE due to COVID-19, they had three perfectly functional venues—Dubai, Abu Dhabi, and Sharjah. Matches were distributed across these stadiums, keeping the tournament competitive and ensuring fair conditions for all teams. But this time? Suddenly, ICC seems to have “forgotten” that the UAE has multiple grounds. Why? Because Dubai historically offers the best batting conditions, and guess which team benefits the most from that?

Sharjah, known for its unpredictable pitches and lower-scoring games, could have been a nightmare for India’s stroke players, especially against a disciplined bowling attack like Bangladesh’s. Abu Dhabi, which historically has assisted pacers and made chasing tricky, could have thrown a real challenge against a well-rounded New Zealand side. But no, India conveniently plays every single game in Dubai—the most batting-friendly, high-scoring ground in the UAE—ensuring their top-order doesn’t struggle with any tricky conditions.

And where were the other seven boards? How did they not raise an issue with this blatant favoritism? Either they were ignored, or they were too spineless to stand up to the financial muscle of the BCCI. Because let’s be honest—when the BCCI speaks, the ICC listens. India’s unmatched revenue generation for global cricket means their demands are rarely questioned, even when it comes at the expense of a fair tournament.

A more neutral, fair schedule should have seen

VS Bangladesh (Sharjah)
India facing Bangladesh in Sharjah, where tougher batting conditions and Bangladesh’s spinners could have been a real threat.

VS Pakistan (Dubai)
Their clash with Pakistan could have stayed in Dubai for the sake of maximizing audience and revenue, but that’s it.

VS NZ (Abu Dhabi)
The match against New Zealand should have been played in Abu Dhabi, a venue that offers assistance to both batters and bowlers, making it an even contest.

Semi final (Abu Dhabi)*
If India made it to the semi-finals, they should have had to play in Abu Dhabi, preventing any guaranteed Dubai boost.

Final (Dubai)*
Only if they fairly earned their way to the final should they have played it in Dubai, as finals are usually held at premier venues.

This setup would have added much-needed variety and fairness to the tournament. But instead, ICC handed India a smooth ride on a silver platter.

It’s not even subtle anymore. The BCCI’s influence over the ICC is at an all-time high, and this is just another example of how tournaments are being tailored to favor India. If this trend continues, what’s next? A T20 World Cup where India gets to pick their own venues and opponents? Because at this rate, we’re not far from that reality


24 hours later...:gilly

You or 'the locals' or basically any one else has still not replied to my posts #14 & #16

I'll break it down in a simpler way....

Am not even discussing the 2023 ODI cup - but the same as below applies to this as well.

In the T20 WC 2024


How exactly did India taking

ONE FLIGHT LESSER

help them make the super 8's, Semis and finals?

How exactly did Pakistan taking

ONE MORE FLIGHT than INDIA

make them loose to a team of IT engineers, Burger flippers, Pizza tossers, delivery boys basically a team that has never played a test and played collectively about 100 ODI's & T20 with guys no one outside their immediately families had even heard about?

Why did'nt Bangladesh not enter the Semis and Finals of the T20 WC when its travel schedule was better than India in WCT20 2024?

Can any one give empirical, alpha-numerical ,calculatable, statistical, quantifiable, measurable evidence with sources for their answers like i have done in my posts #14 & #16?

If you cannot, do you have the honesty and Ghairaat to admit that your media, press, TV shows and majority of posters here are just jumping on a generic BCCI > ICC gravy train, posting generic stuff without substance and basically its internal jalan that is coming out?

Having said that, as an indian fan i will admit BCCI does influence the ICC more than any other nation.

BUT specifically to this tournament, please get off the 'unfair advantage' high horse because the WC schedule was known well in advance.
Each nation could have selected their teams based on nature of pitches in Pak and Dubai (its not that Dubai is in antartica and u are playing on a snow field - neither is playing in pak akin to playing on a sandy desetrt) well in advance and if they did not or did not select spinners, it was their collective stupidity.
The players are seasoned players, they earn millions, they travel during IPL/other leagues and it is not tht they are travelling for the first time.
The media is just milking your collective emotions to collect their $$ by giving generic fertilizer and nothing specific.

I welcome an :dhoni honest debate based on the above points
 
Exactly, every single board is doing this for money, no one is going this for charity.

The biggest whiners English are the one who brought abominations like the hundred to earn money.

The temper tantrums are because the country bringing highest revenue has highest power, which they are not able to digest.
By that logic, IPL is an abomination.
 
There's always some Indian friends of pakistanis who agree with their views that's against India. Always. Let's leave it at that.

No one is asking you to buy anything. ICC and it's members decided to hold CT matches in Dubai. That's that. They approved extra funds for the shift to Dubai.

They are already reeling from the $20mn extra spend from the 2024 T20WC.

PCB has already overshot it's ICC given budget for stadium renovation.

As i said, opinion costs nothing.
How are you determining their views are against India? For those Indians, your views would look against India.
 
It’s their new way of ensuring India get every advantage. For the past decade India have also played the last group game against a weaker opposition to ensure they can improve their NRR if they needed to.
India played NZ as the last group game in CT this time. Are you saying NZ is weaker than Pakistan and Bangladesh :ROFLMAO:
India played Australia in their last group game in 2016
 
Exactly, every single board is doing this for money, no one is going this for charity.

The biggest whiners English are the one who brought abominations like the hundred to earn money.

The temper tantrums are because the country bringing highest revenue has highest power, which they are not able to digest.

Very silly thought process. It is a paindoo thought process.

No other major sport has this issue. Only cricket.

Modern day cricket is a farce.

:inti :inti
 
Real reason is they don't have the money hence the whining.

Ran economy down the drain. No future. Only whining.
No, the Aussies, English, Saffa(Miller just whined recently), Lankans, Bangladeshis are also 'whining'.

Go online and smell the coffee. The trend is that many non-Indian cricket lovers are just not liking the current stranglehold of India over cricket.
 
No, the Aussies, English, Saffa(Miller just whined recently), Lankans, Bangladeshis are also 'whining'.

Go online and smell the coffee. The trend is that many non-Indian cricket lovers are just not liking the current stranglehold of India over cricket.
That is what happens when PCB hosts a tournament. Nobody had issues in 2023 world cup.
 
No, the Aussies, English, Saffa(Miller just whined recently), Lankans, Bangladeshis are also 'whining'.

Go online and smell the coffee. The trend is that many non-Indian cricket lovers are just not liking the current stranglehold of India over cricket.
Broadcasters dictate the scheduling of modern sports.
F1 races are timed to suit their European audience, rest of the world can go for a toss. Same happens for other sports, cricket has the most skewed market dynamics, thats all.
Pakistanis should export cricket to China and make the dragon roar in the gentleman's game and see how the BCCI is brought down to earth.
 
Broadcasters dictate the scheduling of modern sports.
F1 races are timed to suit their European audience, rest of the world can go for a toss. Same happens for other sports, cricket has the most skewed market dynamics, thats all.
Pakistanis should export cricket to China and make the dragon roar in the gentleman's game and see how the BCCI is brought down to earth.
They don't go for a toss. The East Asian races are held at a very uncomfortable time for Europeans.

Sure, Europe might ne a primary market but that does not mean all F1 races are scheduled only for the appeasment of Europeans.

The F1 MBAs would try to maximize profit and they would optimize the schedule where they currently make most bang for the buck.
 
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