BCCI-PCB relationship history | Is there still scope for cooperation in future?

[Bhaijaan]

Some basic questions:-

1.When did things hit rock bottom.
2.How much is BCCI alone responsible for the fall out.
3. Has this relationship always been subject to political climate. Can the two boards not maintain cordial relationship irrespective of the political situation.
4. How can things work better between the two in future

 

[Rana]

Some basic questions:-

1.When did things hit rock bottom.
2.How much is BCCI alone responsible for the fall out.
3. Has this relationship always been subject to political climate. Can the two boards not maintain cordial relationship irrespective of the political situation.
4. How can things work better between the two in future

Pakistan need to improve as a limited overs side. We have been atrociously behind the big teams since 2012

Until we don’t start playing a proper brand of cricket, politics is irrelevant. An India Pakistan series now is not marketable like it was in 2007.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Having successfully co-hosted two ICC World cups, both boards have shown in past they can work together.

1996 world cup remains the greatest world cup ever played.

 

[NishanKonar]

Actually nothing to do with BCCI & PCB

Given a choice BCCI will happily invite Pakistan for regular ODI & test series ( instead of repeatedly bringing Sri Lanka or West Indies ). Its all down to politics. There is nothing BCCI can do here

 

[zamana]

Unfortunately, BCCI is captive to a hostile and confrontational policy of the Government of India. Unless it exerts itself and dissociates itself, there is unlikely to be a substantial engagement between the two Boards.

 

[Minnowbasher]

All depends on governments.
If a tolerant, open-minded government were to come in india tomorrow then BCCI would make a complete U turn on its policies and Pakistan would be touring within a few months.
Problem is that wont happen and so dont expect any series for another decade atleast.

 

[Minnowbasher]

Both BCCI and PCB actually dont have control to make independent decisions.
They both always need approval of government.

 

[Vastunna]

The relations worsened to a point of irreparable damage after IPL 2nd edition. After that the boards may work together for financial gains at times but it will never be like before IPL 2.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Actually nothing to do with BCCI & PCB

Given a choice BCCI will happily invite Pakistan for regular ODI & test series ( instead of repeatedly bringing Sri Lanka or West Indies ). Its all down to politics. There is nothing BCCI can do here

India-Pakistan issued are there since 1947. Things were never this bas between the two boards though.

 

[Saj]

I don't see any changes in the short-term.

Politically things are bad and that usually plays a part in cricket relations.

PCB hasn't got any room to twist BCCI's arm so things won't change very quickly.

 

[Bewal Express]

PK-Ind relations are as bad as they have been since the early 70s. I dont see any bi-lateral matches between the 2 in the next 20 years or possibly ever again.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Political relations between the two countries was always not so good. But the boards always shared a good rapport. The found ways to play cricket. Like using a third team to play a tri series when bilateral ties were suspended.

But Ijaz Butt's attempt to sabotage the IPL in 2009.Followed by a Ehsan Mani led PCB delegation's attempt to move the WC away from India in 2011. Then various uncharitable comments from successive PCB chief. Then the court case. These have damaged the relationship to such an extent that most in Bcci dont even want to talk about PCB.

The relationship will not improve under Ehsan Mani. In Bcci circles he is seen as unfriendly to Bcci, and Mani has shown by his comments historically that the Bcci isnt wrong in that thinking.

So politics can stop bilateral ties, but poor relationship between the boards have made sure that no 90s like multi lateral tournaments on a neutral take place.

 

[ElRaja]

comes down to economics, ground reality india doesnt need pak like it did historically when pak ind matches generated huge proportion of revenues for both teams. bcci has way too many revenue streams to be reliant on one now.

indian cricket can thrive without playing pak, pak can survive without playing india. both boards would like the revenue from playing each other but bcci doesnt need the political headache of trying to get pak to come over, and even the possibility of ind going to pak is pbly decades away.

 

[Bhaijaan]

comes down to economics, ground reality india doesnt need pak like it did historically when pak ind matches generated huge proportion of revenues for both teams. bcci has way too many revenue streams to be reliant on one now.

indian cricket can thrive without playing pak, pak can survive without playing india. both boards would like the revenue from playing each other but bcci doesnt need the political headache of trying to get pak to come over, and even the possibility of ind going to pak is pbly decades away.

Funny thing about greed is, that it never makes you feel enough. As self sufficient as BCCI is today with IPL, i am sure they would too love to market high stakes India-Pakistan series for even more money.

There's got to be other things too.

There were shayad political issues. In 2004 both boards made remarkable political efforts to resume cricket with Jeet Lo Dil series. It was a financial successful and arguably the most hyped and widely followed ODI series ever.

 

[ElRaja]

Funny thing about greed is, that it never makes you feel enough. As self sufficient as BCCI is today with IPL, i am sure they would too love to market high stakes India-Pakistan series for even more money.

no doubt, but its about marginal returns, if it was practically doable for the bcci they pbly would, but not playing pakistan doesnt really affect the daily running of their operation, whereas not playing india massively affects the rest of the world, so india has all the bargaining power, they can extract any lost value from the rest of the cricket they play.

a full pak india series would still generate a crazy amount of money, thats why they did it 4 times in 6 years i think in the mid 00s, to point people got a bit bored of it, esp cos pak ind have a crazy amount of draws historically, i digress tho.

on the flip side pak know india will never visit pak, so one way bilateral series makes a lot of money for bcci, not so much for pcb, so the mutual effort of the mid 00s wouldnt be present.

 

[sweep_shot]

I hope things get better. Politics shouldn't interfere with sports.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can someone pls explain:<br><br>• PCB asks for ICC assurance of no visa issues for Pakistan cricketers in '21/'23 WCs (in India)<br><br>• BCCI responds by demanding PCB guarantee that no act of terror originating in Pakistan happens in India<br><br>How does latter relate to either PCB or sport?</p>— Isabelle Westbury (@izzywestbury) <a href="https://twitter.com/izzywestbury/status/1312340353744281601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also, this is after BCCI ensured points were shared for the India v Pakistan women's WC qualifier (ensuring India's qualification) after BCCI "demonstrated that it was unable to obtain the necessary government clearances". <br><br>BCCI can't control its gov. actions; why should PCB?</p>— Isabelle Westbury (@izzywestbury) <a href="https://twitter.com/izzywestbury/status/1312341002204729344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Unfortunately, BCCI is captive to a hostile and confrontational policy of the Government of India. Unless it exerts itself and dissociates itself, there is unlikely to be a substantial engagement between the two Boards.

India also thinks Pakistan is aggressive and hostile to Indian state. That’s the point of view from other side.

 

[Rana]

India also thinks Pakistan is aggressive and hostile to Indian state. That’s the point of view from other side.

Hostile and aggressive? Last I remember the general view was that we are begging to be a part of everything India