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"If I decide to step down again, I'll announce it but for now, I haven't thought about it and the decision is up to PCB": Babar Azam
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I remember this guy and Major mentioning this at the time of the 2023 World Cup. Tbh, there is no clear cut source confirming that Babar got the best deals for him, Rizwan and Shaheen…and then told everyone else to take a hike and get their managers to sort it out for them. That kind of information is probably the most sensitive in player/agent+board matters…it is highly unlikely a 3rd source (a journalist) can have this kind of information and be able to leak it with accuracy.
What we do know is, the players did not accept the PCB’s new central contract offers at the time because they insisted on getting a share of the Broadcast deal revenue or the ICC revenue citing that they are entitled to it being the stars that pull the money for the PCB…in that case it isn’t farfetched to think Babar’s agent insisted through Babar to get the best percentage cut for himself, Rizwan and Shaheen as they are billed as the big 3 for Pakistan. This is what most likely happened. I am speculating.
The whole ‘conflict of interest’ thing busted open or escalated when Zaka Ashraf and his management realised that they are being taken for hostage by some unknown bloke behind the scenes pulling the strings behind Babar…they were stuck because the players knew Pakistan had to send them off for the 2 month ICC event, and they (through Babar) can get anything they wanted really at such a delicate stage.
ZA waited for the right time (loss to India and then Afghanistan) to open up this issue in order to avoid any heat towards himself. They knew now was the time to strike back…although they would act as if they had no clue about the agent manipulating the issue from beforehand
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Sometimes I wonder how can someone be so stubborn & adamant like Babar. This guy even after playing nonstop international cricket since 7-8 years has failed to improve his game & captaincy across format and still making silly excuses. It's high time he should be discarded from T20s at least. Players like Salman Agha, Saud Shakeel, Wasim jnr are sitting on bench because of his outrageous captaincy
I wouldn’t have either Rizwan, Babar or Shan, but if I had to choose one, Shan is the best of the lot. He outplayed both of these frauds in the 2022 World Cup
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Shan isn't better then rizwan or babar as a batsmen just saying.
He's only better as a captain, but even as a captain he's can't do anything if the skill gap is too high which is why KK faiked and why the Australia test series was a mollywhop. Credit to him for making certain decisions that allowed him to remain somewhat competitive
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He did but he's still not cut out for the T20 format. And if I had to choose one out of these three I would still choose Babar.
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I'm no fan of Babar as captain, but I think you're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill here. Even if this happened, who else besides Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen even qualifies for a Grade A central contract? Naseem only started playing all three formats last year. No other player plays all three formats for Pakistan. And why is it Babar's job to ensure every players gets a nice payout? I would think that is something to be negotiated between them and the PCB. If I was in Babar's place I would have done the same thing, have my agent look at my interests. It's not my job to ensure every player gets paid right.
Personally Babar’s bunnyness vs Spin swings it for me. You’re always going to get some spinners in a t20.
We can agree to disagree there, but it shouldn’t really be a discussion. Neither of these 3 should be anywhere near a t20 team.
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According to Mubashir Luqman, the message given to the other players by Babar was sign up with Saya to improve their chances of having their central contracts perks and privilege's improved. The issue wasn't actually the category but more the players resentment why did Babar as captain go to the PCB negotiating a pay rise claiming to represent the team and only enrich himself and a few select others at the expense of everyone else The players were hoping that the rewards for the B and C categories would go up but that did not really happen except for the A Categories.
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Mubashar Luqman? Even his family members don’t take him seriously.
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Thank you. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was all true. Sounds like a Babar Azam thing to do.
He’s already stitched up Shaheen, who was more than just loyal friend. He stuck up him when his shoddy captaincy was getting exposed left, right and centre. On his social media accounts, he was telling everyone “sochna bhi mana hai” but we all knew this was a dumb move that would come back to haunt him.
I hope after this episode, SSA will learn to love himself before he does any favours for any one of his “mates”.
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Babar should step down immediately after this debacle and refocus his game as a player.
He is being poorly advised by the people in his circle.
Gary Kirsten needs to take control of this situation and be given the freedom to do so otherwise he should step down and walk away.
We need leadership on and off the field.
7 selectors is a farce as is this chairman.
No more family trips on PCB expenses.
We need a clean break but we wont get it until corruption is dead and buried throughout the country in every sector.
Otherwise this vicious cycle will continue.
He is being poorly advised by the people in his circle.
Gary Kirsten needs to take control of this situation and be given the freedom to do so otherwise he should step down and walk away.
We need leadership on and off the field.
7 selectors is a farce as is this chairman.
No more family trips on PCB expenses.
We need a clean break but we wont get it until corruption is dead and buried throughout the country in every sector.
Otherwise this vicious cycle will continue.
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Shan is a better captain yet MS captaincy was given to Rizwan from Shan before they won championship. Shan is well-mannered lad but unfortunatly, he doesn't deserve to play any format. Just like Sarfraz was a great captain but he lost his place in the starting XI by not performing, we can't play a passenger in the team just bec of their captaincy acumen. It is 2024.
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I suggested saud and Haris as first choice. Not Shan.
Also tbf, both babar and rizwan are passengers in t20. Babar is good in odi and test though. Rizwan good in test and average in t20.
T20 is Pakistan's weakest format. In odi its bad but not nearly as bad.
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How much does it cost to send out a plane with a banner saying “Babar Out”?
I’ll be happy to contribute to the costs. We can’t just let things go on the way they are.
I’ll be happy to contribute to the costs. We can’t just let things go on the way they are.
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Beautiful captaincy by Masood. He has led Pakistan to a Test defeat at home vs Bangladesh. Legend.
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Shan being a captain of Pakistan test team is everything wrong with Pakistan cricket
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Apparently Babar’s captaincy was holding the team back. It is wonderful to see Pakistan winning Test matches now that we have an educated and articulate captain.
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He started the creation of this horrible soft team. There's no one in Pakistan who can fix it. It's a lost cause basically.
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Outlier, Shan is even worse then Babar and rizwan by miles. (AS A PLAYER)
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Shan himself is a useless he has no business playing international cricket. He needs to move to England permanently and teach cricket / English to underprivileged youth in Birmingham.
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This is why I get frustrated at people who randomly go to universities, get a degree and never apply anything? Like why did you even go and waste 4 years?
Shan has a degree in economics + Management and science from one of the best unis in the world.
He should have just pursued a Management position at PCB, I can see him being extremely good with numbers and possibly help in the finance department.
He cpuld have actually made a difference and allocated pcb funds properly to improve our grounds, player salary, player contracts and form a proper management structure.
And someone like him would be perfect for the role as most people working in PCB are accounting frauds.
But instead he decided to play cricket? Like bro why?
. And I refuse to believe he's passionate about it and following his passions. I've never encountered any one in my life who's passionate about something, pursues it and then sucks at it lol.
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Peshawar Zalmi PR back to their filthy tricks again
Make Babar captain, let him continue. Keep the banter going
Make Babar captain, let him continue. Keep the banter going
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This is why I get frustrated at people who randomly go to universities, get a degree and never apply anything? Like why did you even go and waste 4 years?
Shan has a degree in economics + Management and science from one of the best unis in the world.
He should have just pursued a Management position at PCB, I can see him being extremely good with numbers and possibly help in the finance department.
He cpuld have actually made a difference and allocated pcb funds properly to improve our grounds, player salary, player contracts and form a proper management structure.
And someone like him would be perfect for the role as most people working in PCB are accounting frauds.
But instead he decided to play cricket? Like bro why?
Shan reminds me of those silver-spooned country club kids who play a sport not because they have the talent or passion, but because they can afford to. Unlike those who have toiled through the ranks, overcoming every obstacle with grit and determination to earn their spot, Shan has had everything handed to him on a silver platter. His mere presence in the team is more a result of privilege than skill. Yet, his ego blinds him to the reality that he’s simply not good enough to compete at this level. Instead of stepping aside and making room for genuinely talented players who’ve fought hard for the opportunity, he clings to his position as some sort of tactical messiah, not realizing—or perhaps not caring—that he’s holding the team back. It’s a classic case of entitlement overriding merit, where connections and money trump hard work and natural ability. Welcome to the PCB, isn’t his dad connected and that’s how he made it into the Pakistan team to begin with?
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I want this so badly now. Bobzy the king. Lagta hai Kuch logo ko abhi tak tassali nahi huiThe funniest thing will be if Babar gets made captain of test again next series
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Yeah his dad is connected.
Also bro connections and money never triumph hard work.
Connections + Money + Hard work triumph hard work alone.
Taylor swift was connected and born into money since birth, no 16 year old gets shoehorned into a record label company and gets records sold right off the bat. She even admitted to being born in a multimillion dollar home and her parents literally named her after a singer.
However she can sing and is an excellent songwriter who soent years perfecting jer craft, Dance extremely well and consistently do so for 4 hours in a row in a concert and she's practised. Look at her from when she was 16 and now, high difference.
No one would give a kahoot about her if she sucked at singing and songwriting. Same argument can be made for lots and lots of rich kids.
The difference between people like them and people like shan is that the element of hard work is missing.
Just like Taylor swift is not the only singer or kid born to a multimillion music family, Shan masood is not the only cricketer out their or heck the only privileged cricketer born to a connected family.
Competition always exists but one is the best in the world at her craft and has crushed the competiton while Shan is a clown and no where close to even Zimbabwe level batters let alone aussie, Indian and English batters.
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I have to respectfully disagree with all Swifties when it comes to her dancing abilities
For Shan, he can work as hard as he wants he just doesn’t have the talent. He's below international standard and no matter what he does he’ll never bridge that talent gap.
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The whole point was, Just like swift wasn't the only rich girl born with music connectionsI have to respectfully disagree with all Swifties when it comes to her dancing abilities
For Shan, he can work as hard as he wants he just doesn’t have the talent. He's below international standard and no matter what he does he’ll never bridge that talent gap.
Shan masood isn't the only one either.
But only one of them is perceived as top level and many other rich girls who auditioned back then while still rich, have faded away into obscurity and are likely just owning stake in some record label company.
Shan masood is the same, Ganguly and murli also came from extremly rich families and in the case of Murli strings were pulled. But only 2 of them are regarded as ATG's whereas years from now Shan will be one of those random scorecard names.
Also about the whole talent thing, Yes and no, Human beings are product of their genetics and environment. While genetics defo play a part, it's the environment that mostly shapes your success. His environment is that of a silver Spooner but no hard worker.
Whereas Americans,INDIANS and even Australians, even if their born rich, genetically and culturally the system of competiton, Enterprrenuership and hard work is naturally deep rooted in their system.
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Not true.
Pakistan Test team has been shambles long before Babar took over.
It is hilarious how people have completely forgotten how rubbish we were under Sarfraz and Azhar Ali between 2018 and 2020.
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Babar didn't cause the test team to collapse.
He + Misbah are the founders for the decline of whiteball only
But yes the situation was never this bad. However pakistan were always struggling once azhar declined, asad lost form and fawad following suit, YK and Misbah leaving and even Shehzad who was gun in test being dropped because pcb doesn't understand the difference between odi, t20 and test (Although shehzad would have declined in test soon enpugh) and the spin quality declining
You can say Babar accelerated the seeds of destruction and caused irreparable damage but ever since yk left, pakistan has always been like sri lanka, Searching for the people who will replace jaysuria, Sanga, Dilsham, Thramga, Mahela and many more
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Genius.
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Babar gets sacked from T20I captaincy, Shaheen Afridi leads Pakistan to a 4-1 thrashing in NZ.
Babar gets sacked from Test captaincy, Shan Masood leads Pakistan to a traditional whitewash in Australia and an utterly humiliating whitewash at home vs Bangladesh which would go down as a top 3 lowest moment in our cricket history.
The conclusion is that Babar’s captaincy was never the problem. We are just not good enough. People who don’t want to accept the reality are always looking out for scapegoats.
Babar gets sacked from Test captaincy, Shan Masood leads Pakistan to a traditional whitewash in Australia and an utterly humiliating whitewash at home vs Bangladesh which would go down as a top 3 lowest moment in our cricket history.
The conclusion is that Babar’s captaincy was never the problem. We are just not good enough. People who don’t want to accept the reality are always looking out for scapegoats.
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Babar as captain is not the answer either. Babar in fact does not even warrant a place in the team right now
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You don’t have any replacements for Babar as batsman. Pakistan has zero talent in domestic cricket. Any Pakistan XI without Babar is significantly weaker than any Pakistan XI with Babar.
As far as captaincy is concerned, if you don’t have answers then don’t remove captains for the sake it. You have to make sure that the captain is the problem before removing him. In Babar’s case, he was removed with the laughable expectation that everything will sort by itself and we have seen the outcomes.
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I repeat on merit Babar does not deserve to be selected. The team is on a perpetual losing streak and Babar being an A category player has not performed for a long time, he has not justified his price tag.
Also Babar has served his innings as captain, 5 years is enough in the role. Why should he have an eternal right to captaincy?
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Even from the video he runs slow lol
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You can repeat yourself but that won’t make it any true. Please pick your XI for the next Test assignment.
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Babar's captaincy was never a problem because we were just not good enough but Shan's captaincy is a problem even though 6-7 players are still common?? Are you serious? Can you list out single improvement in Babar as a captain or as a player despite the fact that he has simply hijacked the team for 5 years? He was a disaster as a captain across formats after serving for such a long period and got full freedom. I agree Shan's personal performance is really terrible as he has got many chances but still he performed better than Babar both against Australia and in this series as well. I also agree that Shan's captaincy has downgraded in this series and he should be in firing line very soon but I can never accept that Babar was a captaincy material
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