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BCCI: The biggest trouble maker in world cricket?

Devadwal said:
You can prove whatever you want to do. BCCi sent a signal to all foregien players and they receive its. Now you can assume whatever as per your wish .
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I don’t have to assume anything especially after you are admitting that BCCI is ‘sending signals’ or threatening people
 
Rana said:
Not sure where you are going with this. Players playing KPL as a professional commitment do not necessarily do it to support an anti Indian agenda. Similarly, players playing in the IPL do not support an anti Pakistan agenda even though the league is anti Pakistan

A Muslim buying a coffee at Starbucks or trading with Israeli based companies is not doing it with the intention of supporting The Israeli army.

Just because your stupid logic was exposed because BCCI cannot uphold the same stance at ICC events does not mean that you turn this into some emotional/ moral discussion
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This is what my last post did point.

People do what is convenient for them regardless whether it is correct or not from pov of principles.

Even a Muslim supporting Palestine will change his stance if supporting the cause could put hindrance to his comfort just like the examples you wrote above. It is disappointing, but it is reality.

Same way, it useless to blame BCCI because after all, just like the Muslims in the examples above, these players will also want their comfort, their money. If they go for it, it is their free will.
 
Rana said:
Not sure where you are going with this. Players playing KPL as a professional commitment do not necessarily do it to support an anti Indian agenda. Similarly, players playing in the IPL do not support an anti Pakistan agenda even though the league is anti Pakistan

A Muslim buying a coffee at Starbucks or trading with Israeli based companies is not doing it with the intention of supporting The Israeli army.

Just because your stupid logic was exposed because BCCI cannot uphold the same stance at ICC events does not mean that you turn this into some emotional/ moral discussion
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May be you are not aware but logic like this is sold by our Indian media everyday to Indians through different media channels. Back when it started I also heard that PSL was created to help terrorists in Kashmir. :inti
 
Itachi said:
This is what my last post did point.

People do what is convenient for them regardless whether it is correct or not from pov of principles.

Even a Muslim supporting Palestine will change his stance if supporting the cause could put hindrance to his comfort just like the examples you wrote above. It is disappointing, but it is reality.

Same way, it useless to blame BCCI because after all, just like the Muslims in the examples above, these players will also want their comfort, their money. If they go for it, it is their free will.
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Right so what about doing what is right if you truly stand by it? Why do India play Pakistan in world cups?
 
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IMMY69 said:
We had negative PCR tests of all of the players and then
We had chartered planes that took off today carrying Indian players to the UAE..
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It usually takes 5 days on avg for the rt pcr to be positive.

The players are transferring in a bio bubble. They will be in quarantine and will only get out of it after multiple rt pcr are found negative in next 5 days.
 
Devadwal said:
You can prove whatever you want to do. BCCi sent a signal to all foregien players and they receive its. Now you can assume whatever as per your wish .
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Only one foreign player turned up for that league i heard.
 
Rana said:
When you cause problems for people...
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There is no action in this world which will benefit all people. You are doing a job and earning money by snatching it from another person. Should I blame you for causing problems for others where by becoming the obstacle to feed their family?
 
Itachi said:
There is no action in this world which will benefit all people. You are doing a job and earning money by snatching it from another person. Should I blame you for causing problems for others where by becoming the obstacle to feed their family?
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Yes but BCCI creates more problems than most
 
Rana said:
Yes but BCCI creates more problems than most
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But it feeds families of not only Indian players but for international players also via IPL. Players except Pakistani are grateful to IPL hence.
 
Itachi said:
But it feeds families of not only Indian players but for international players also via IPL. Players except Pakistani are grateful to IPL hence.
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So I am sure they can also recompense ECB’s £40m loss?
 
Rana said:
So I am sure they can also recompense ECB’s £40m loss?
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Life is unfair but in the same way it balances out. If BCCI does grant that money, it will be unfair to RSA. So in this case, India is the medium through which God has even out the injustice that ECB did impose on RSA.
 
Itachi said:
Life is unfair but in the same way it balances out. If BCCI does grant that money, it will be unfair to RSA. So in this case, India is the medium through which God has even out the injustice that ECB did impose on RSA.
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But this thread is about BCCI’s nuisances towards other boards. If you think ECB should recompense CSA then you are more than welcome to make a thread about it and we can discuss it there
 
Rana said:
But this thread is about BCCI’s nuisances towards other boards. If you think ECB should recompense CSA then you are more than welcome to make a thread about it and we can discuss it there
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I didn't say ECB should compensate CSA or BCCI should compensate ECB. If you have watched "ink" movie, you will realize that every events in our lives is chained with events from that of others. It is the ultimate finale where everything evens out.

Had ECB paid CSA, now BCCI could have been obligated to pay ECB.

good karma leads to good results.
Bad karma leads to bad results.

Simple as that. BCCI is just the medium in this case.
 
Just a reminder to all, any personal attacks against other posters will be deleted.

Keep the debate strictly to the impact of the BCCI's influence on international cricket.
 
BCCI are what top sides are in the EPL. You ae favoured for bringing in the most revenue. If you can't beat them then join them. The PCB should be the second most powerful board in the world if we ever made the correct decisions.
 
Business strategy. Nothing personal. All businessmen or corporation place profits as priority one
 
If PCB or CSA had same power as BCCI they would do same as ECB CA have also done same in past
 
Rana said:
Not sure where you are going with this. Players playing KPL as a professional commitment do not necessarily do it to support an anti Indian agenda. Similarly, players playing in the IPL do not support an anti Pakistan agenda even though the league is anti Pakistan

A Muslim buying a coffee at Starbucks or trading with Israeli based companies is not doing it with the intention of supporting The Israeli army.

Just because your stupid logic was exposed because BCCI cannot uphold the same stance at ICC events does not mean that you turn this into some emotional/ moral discussion
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IPL is not anti Pakistan. It just doesn't allow Pak players. All involved in IPL have one goal - make money. They aren't playing to hurt Pakistan in any way.

A movie which represents Pak as terrorist country is anti Pakistan. But a movie which doesn't have any Pak artist doesn't make it anti Pakistan.
 
The bigger trouble than the biggest trouble maker BCCI is that every cricketing board wants BCCI to send its team to their country for a cricket series. Their desperation triumphs over anything, means they dont find BCCI doing anything wrong barring ECB and CA.
 
Its such a shame that after being the 2nd largest cricketing nation after INDIA, the PCB hasnt been able to be as dominant as BCCI even when they had more star players than Indian team at a time and were an attractive team, all thanks to their incompetent and corrupt administrators. BCCI has reached this level as they know how to run cricket and manage cricketing affairs. Its other boards ineptness that they havent been able to match BCCI to have their way like BCCI and blaming, criticising BCCI doesnt help it.
 
Thanos said:
IPL is not anti Pakistan. It just doesn't allow Pak players. All involved in IPL have one goal - make money. They aren't playing to hurt Pakistan in any way.

A movie which represents Pak as terrorist country is anti Pakistan. But a movie which doesn't have any Pak artist doesn't make it anti Pakistan.
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Yup. Simply put, just because I don't want you in my house, doesn't mean I hate you.
 
Thanos said:
IPL is not anti Pakistan. It just doesn't allow Pak players. All involved in IPL have one goal - make money. They aren't playing to hurt Pakistan in any way.

A movie which represents Pak as terrorist country is anti Pakistan. But a movie which doesn't have any Pak artist doesn't make it anti Pakistan.
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It is not anti Pakistani, Pakistani players are just not allowed to play in it...


















Ok
 
Itachi said:
Yup. Simply put, just because I don't want you in my house, doesn't mean I hate you.
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I don’t want you in my house doesn’t mean I don’t hate you.....


Then why do you have an objection to those who want to play in KPL?
 
Abu_Hamza said:
Its such a shame that after being the 2nd largest cricketing nation after INDIA, the PCB hasnt been able to be as dominant as BCCI even when they had more star players than Indian team at a time and were an attractive team, all thanks to their incompetent and corrupt administrators. BCCI has reached this level as they know how to run cricket and manage cricketing affairs. Its other boards ineptness that they havent been able to match BCCI to have their way like BCCI and blaming, criticising BCCI doesnt help it.
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Great post in the category of ‘totally bringing up the irrelevant’.

PCB not being able to utilise its potential market is an internal problem, how does it affect other boards by causing trouble for them? If anything, the overseas Pakistani diaspora who love cricket are benefiting boards such as ECB, Cricket Australia, Cricket USA and Canada by participating and promoting cricket in those countries. They are a much loved part of the cricketing community.

If the BCCI actually honoured it’s agreement to the PCB in the last two decades, I’m sure the PCB would have gigantic funds to enhance the resources within. However, look at how PCB is still one of the wealthiest boards in world cricket regardless of the absent cash cow of the India-Pakistan series
 
Rana said:
I don’t want you in my house doesn’t mean I don’t hate you.....


Then why do you have an objection to those who want to play in KPL?
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I don't have good relationship with my friend "X". If you want to go to their house, you can go but you won't be welcome at my home after that.

This is the story every house hold in every part of the world. Common human psychology.
 
Rana said:
Great post in the category of ‘totally bringing up the irrelevant’.

PCB not being able to utilise its potential market is an internal problem, how does it affect other boards by causing trouble for them? If anything, the overseas Pakistani diaspora who love cricket are benefiting boards such as ECB, Cricket Australia, Cricket USA and Canada by participating and promoting cricket in those countries. They are a much loved part of the cricketing community.

If the BCCI actually honoured it’s agreement to the PCB in the last two decades, I’m sure the PCB would have gigantic funds to enhance the resources within. However, look at how PCB is still one of the wealthiest boards in world cricket regardless of the absent cash cow of the India-Pakistan series
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PCB isn't an isolated entity where it wont affect others.

Simply put, If none of the actions that PCB takes has no impact on world cricket, then none of the actions that world cricket takes or even BCCI takes should have no impact on PCB.

You want no responsibility yet you try to make others responsible for your own failures. This is a loser attitude.
 
Amid all the disappointments and frustrations of the tens of thousands who had travelled to Manchester for the fifth test between England and India, and the tens of millions had had planned an escape from Covid watching the climax of this series, there is one silver lining.

The Board of Control for Cricket in India has never publicly announced a plan to stage a second Indian Premier League competition every year, but it has long been a covert threat. And now the world sees how the Indian board can cancel a test match and abort a tour unilaterally on the day of a game, all other cricket-playing countries should be forewarned, even if that is far from being forearmed.

A second annual edition of the IPL, to be staged every autumn in the United States, has always had to be shelved because of the lack of cricket grounds, until now.

The new initiative by the International Cricket Council to have T20 cricket included in the Olympics of 2028 in Los Angeles (followed by the next Olympics in better-equipped Brisbane) would create the infrastructure which the IPL needs.

As the new chairman of the England and Wales Cricket Board, Ian Watmore is leading the ICC’s application to join the Olympics - and should be extremely careful about creating the infrastucture in the US which could lead to the international cricket calendar being torn up.

September and October are the months when the second annual edition of the IPL would be staged in America. An international cricket ground already exists in Lauderhill in Florida where West Indies have played eight white-ball internationals, but the future growth area is California, where the 2028 Olympics will be held, with its large and affluent Indian community, including the CEOs of several multinational companies, if sponsorship opportunities were needed.

Umpires Richard Illingworth, left, and Michael Gough walk across the field at Old Trafford cricket ground after fifth and final cricket test match between England and India was cancelled.

With every March and April inked in for the IPL in India, unless the BCCI prefers April and May, the international calendar would be limited to the English summer (the off-season for the test-playing countries of the southern hemisphere), and to the four months from November to February. Not only bilateral test, one-day and T20 series would have to be squeezed in, but all global tournaments not staged in England.

Being forewarned about this evolution of the sport is a long way from being forearmed, because the Indian board has more money than the rest of the cricket world combined. But at least, after the abandonment of the Old Trafford test, the rest of the cricket world can appreciate the danger inherent in a second IPL every autumn, and present a united front in opposition.

One IPL per year is plenty: the best cricketers from every country except Pakistan are enabled to earn more than most ever would for their country, and enough room remains for the international schedule to breathe, just about. Two per year, and cricket shifts from being an international sport in every format, except the Hundred, to a gigantic T20 franchise, with all the threats of match-fixing that entails.

Ikram Ali Khil of Afghanistan in action against the West Indies at the 2019 Cricket World Cup tournament in England.
The future of Afghanistan cricket has also to be tackled by the ICC, in addition to whether India forfeited the Old Trafford test or not. While the captain of the Afghanistan men’s team, Rashid Khan, has stepped down from the post for the T20 World Cup in the UAE next month, the country’s involvement in the competition is not in serious doubt, if only because the next ICC biannual meeting is in November; but thereafter Afghanistan cannot maintain its existing position if their government forbids women to play cricket.

Afghanistan’s previous government had not exactly been full of encouragement, and Afghan women had yet to play an international fixture, but possibilities existed, both to play cricket and make a living out of it. Now there is none, and never will be under the Taliban government.

For the immediate future, the Olympics offer a solution. Russia having being banned, for doping violations, their athletes competed in Tokyo in the name of the Russian Olympic Committee. Afghanistan women could participate in international cricket under the title of ICC Afghanistan Women. Nobody living in the country would be able to play, for fear of death, but those who want to play cricket for a living might be able to join the millions of refugees who have fled to Pakistan and elsewhere.

Twenty years ago male Afghan cricket was being born in the refugee camps around Peshawar, and the same enormous energy can drive the growth of women’s cricket in similar environments. India befriended Afghanistan male cricket by donating headquarters outside New Delhi. If only as part of the same geo-political game, Pakistan’s prime minister Imran Khan could build the female headquarters in Peshawar.

England’s cricketers meanwhile are left to regret the two chaotic hours which cost them the test series against India - for it is over, whether or not the Old Trafford match is ever re-staged. Bowling nothing but bouncers at India’s tailenders at Lord’s, then buckling under the assault by the allrounder Shardul Thakur at the Oval, added up to the second consecutive test series defeat at home for Joe Root, when he had never lost one before.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...f-second-annual-ipl-in-us-disturbingly-closer
 
Nikhil_cric said:
For their miniscule financial size, NZC can sure cause a lot of trouble eh?
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In my opinion the guy who is carrying the gun on his shoulder is NZ. Rest is upto you to assume. :inti

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Looks like a cunning plan by other boards to seed some ideas in big3 so they can send their players to these tournaments and earn more!!
 

Australian Players Fall Sick, One In Hospital, After Eating Food In Kanpur. BCCI Reacts​


BCCI Vice President Rajiv Shukla gave his verdict on the players of the Australia A camp falling sick amid their one-day series against India A in Kanpur, suggesting that they might have contracted some sort of infection and that there were no issues with the quality of food being provided. Notably, four players, including the captain of the Australia A camp, contracted stomach infections, causing a health scare. Henry Thornton was admitted to Regency Hospital following a deterioration in his condition. The remaining three players were treated and released after standard medical assessments.

Team sources indicated the illness might be related to food eaten at the hotel, although neither hospital officials nor team management officially confirmed it.

Speaking to reporters in Kanpur, Shukla stated that all players are being served the same food from one of the finest establishments, and if food were the issue, then everyone would have been affected, not just a few players.

"If there had been an issue with the food, all players, including the Indian players, would have fallen sick. It must have been something else. They are being fed food from one of the finest hotels, Hotel Landmark; the food is good, and everyone is eating the same. Since a few players have fallen ill, they may have contracted an infection, and we are handling it," Shukla said.

He then addressed the logistical challenges in Kanpur: "The issue arises because there aren't many hotels. We need 300 rooms in a five-star hotel, and that's not available. There is no international airport in the area that operates 24/7. Had better arrangements been in place, they would have gained an advantage."

When asked why the issue occurs only during senior international or unofficial games and not during the Indian Premier League (IPL), Shukla mentioned that the BCCI does not have a say in such matters during the tournament, as all arrangements are managed by the franchises themselves.

"In the case of the IPL, everything depends on the franchises. They decide where the players stay, and it's entirely their choice, as the BCCI does not have any role in the decision-making. They choose a hotel of their preference," Shukla further stated.

India A had previously won the first unofficial ODI convincingly, but Australia A evened the series at 1-1 with a straightforward nine-wicket win in the second ODI.

 
Cricket used to be a gentlemen's sport and an appealing sport. India ruined it completely. :inti

England should've kept control of cricket. They invented it. It is their sport. Why did they allow India to hijack it?
 
Ball Blazer said:

Australian Players Fall Sick, One In Hospital, After Eating Food In Kanpur. BCCI Reacts​


BCCI Vice President Rajiv Shukla gave his verdict on the players of the Australia A camp falling sick amid their one-day series against India A in Kanpur, suggesting that they might have contracted some sort of infection and that there were no issues with the quality of food being provided. Notably, four players, including the captain of the Australia A camp, contracted stomach infections, causing a health scare. Henry Thornton was admitted to Regency Hospital following a deterioration in his condition. The remaining three players were treated and released after standard medical assessments.

Team sources indicated the illness might be related to food eaten at the hotel, although neither hospital officials nor team management officially confirmed it.

Speaking to reporters in Kanpur, Shukla stated that all players are being served the same food from one of the finest establishments, and if food were the issue, then everyone would have been affected, not just a few players.

"If there had been an issue with the food, all players, including the Indian players, would have fallen sick. It must have been something else. They are being fed food from one of the finest hotels, Hotel Landmark; the food is good, and everyone is eating the same. Since a few players have fallen ill, they may have contracted an infection, and we are handling it," Shukla said.

He then addressed the logistical challenges in Kanpur: "The issue arises because there aren't many hotels. We need 300 rooms in a five-star hotel, and that's not available. There is no international airport in the area that operates 24/7. Had better arrangements been in place, they would have gained an advantage."

When asked why the issue occurs only during senior international or unofficial games and not during the Indian Premier League (IPL), Shukla mentioned that the BCCI does not have a say in such matters during the tournament, as all arrangements are managed by the franchises themselves.

"In the case of the IPL, everything depends on the franchises. They decide where the players stay, and it's entirely their choice, as the BCCI does not have any role in the decision-making. They choose a hotel of their preference," Shukla further stated.

India A had previously won the first unofficial ODI convincingly, but Australia A evened the series at 1-1 with a straightforward nine-wicket win in the second ODI.

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Pathetic from Indian board. Why even select a crappy town like kanpur for a game?

Disgusting. Absolutely no civic sense:

Such people who litter and lack civic sense should be severely punished. Jail time or just thrashed so they learn how to act in public.
 
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