BCCI threatens to pull out of 2017 Champions Trophy after India women's team docked points

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The Indian Cricket Board's relations with the ICC, headed by Shashank Manohar, hit a new low after Indian women's cricket team was docked six points for not playing bilateral series with Pakistan between August 1 to October 31 according to agreement.

There are possibilities that men's team might not play Champions Trophy in protest against the women cricketers being made "soft targets" in the name of rules and regulations.

A furious BCCI has lodged a protest with the global body who are well aware that any bilateral series against Pakistan needs government permission under current political scenario, which ICC's Indian chairman is well aware.

"ICC is well aware that in prevailing situation where Indian soldiers are being martyred, the sentiment is dead against playing Pakistan. The chairman is well aware that we need government permission," a furious senior BCCI official told PTI on Wednesday.

"This is a move with ulterior motive trying to play into the hands of Pakistan. They would say if women can play so can men. But that won't happen. If ICC does not backtrack, the men's team in solidarity with our women's team won't play in Champions Trophy," he added.

An ICC release on Wednesday stated: "Following consideration of written submissions from both PCB and BCCI, the ICC Technical Committee has ruled that the India Women's team is deemed to have forfeited each of the three matches it was due to play against Pakistan in Round 6 of the ICC Women's Championship, and that the associated points should be awarded to Pakistan.

"The matches, which were due to be played between August 1 & October 31, 2016, were not formally scheduled and did not ultimately take place, and the Technical Committee has ruled that Pakistan will be awarded two points for each of the three games and, in accordance with the ICC Women's Championship playing conditions, India shall be considered to have scored 0 runs in each of the 50 overs in each of the three matches and that its net run rate shall be adjusted accordingly."

The Technical Committee said while it was sensitive to the current state of relations between the nations of India and Pakistan, but concluded that the BCCI had not been able to establish 'acceptable reasons' for not participating in the series.

The ICC's relationship with BCCI has soured on a number of issues since Shashank Manohar became independent chairman. From changes proposed in revenue sharing to not having India in the working group, Manohar's stance has been perceived by many as anti-India despite BCCI members having full faith in his leadership.

A top ranking office bearer of the BCCI commented: "It seems as if Manohar's anti-BCCI stand is becoming an anti-India stance. As a former BCCI president he is well aware why the men's team could not play a bilateral series with Pakistan last year. Despite that if Indian women's team is docked points for not playing Pakistan, it means he does not care about the public sentiment."

With Parliament session on, BCCI President Anurag Thakur was unavailable for comment.

http://www.business-standard.com/ar..._1.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
 
"There are possibilities that men's team might not play Champions Trophy in protest against the women cricketers being made "soft targets" in the name of rules and regulations."


Please go ahead forfeit that match too..
 
Couldn't care less about India as long as we take the points I am more then happy. Champions Trophy I am sure will go ahead with or without India's participation or they can again forfeit the match giving us the points. India are just a bunch of cry babies throwing their toy's out of the pram. It's time to call their bluff.
 
"There are possibilities that men's team might not play Champions Trophy in protest against the women cricketers being made "soft targets" in the name of rules and regulations."


Please go ahead forfeit that match too..

LOL. Here's wishing good luck to the ICC for booking profit from the tournament without the defending champions participating.
 
LOL. Here's wishing good luck to the ICC for booking profit from the tournament without the defending champions participating.

Enough arrogance. Time for the BCCI to actually do something to back up all the talk and actually drop out of the CT. We all know they won't do that though. The BCCI will crumble without the ICC and the other cricketing boards. IPL will only take you so far.
 
LOL. Here's wishing good luck to the ICC for booking profit from the tournament without the defending champions participating.

Please deprive ICC of the profit by dropping out. Put money where your mouth is..
 
Am I dreaming ??

The ICC finally stepping up and showing the BCCI its place.

BCCI has been getting away with such nonsense for far too long, doing as it pleases.

What a pathetic bully this board is - if they want to pull out of the CT 2017 then I say good riddance.
 
Guess one of the C's in BCCI stands for crying.

Already trying to spoil cricket with politics, and now throwing toys out the pram.
 
No governing body of a sport should tolerate such blackmail attempts by one of its members no matter how powerful it is.
 
Throwing toys out of their prams again the morons who thibk they own the rights to everything cricket related.
 
Just put India and Pak in different groups and if by chance they meet at QF/SF/F I bet India won't be pulling out of such an important match as the defending champions

This is friggin hilarious anyways, I wanna see how far this tantrum goes
 
They have nothing to be mad about, play or lose points, fair deal. Why should the other team suffer from your stubbornness? They're not kings or anything.
 
They have nothing to be mad about, play or lose points, fair deal. Why should the other team suffer from your stubbornness? They're not kings or anything.

The funny part is that they are to blame for this whole situation.

A well-informed source told PTI that there were multiple e-mail communication from ICC, but there was no response to any of the e-mails to provide reasons for not playing the series against Pakistan, which was scheduled to be held between 1 August and 31 October.

The ICC went by the book and it would have been a different scenario had BCCI given in writing that the political tension and cross-border terrorism was the reason for their “forfeiture”.

The ICC rule states that a documented reason is a must, which the governing body never had in its disposal.

It was also learnt that the BCCI has not filed any official appeal to the world cricket’s governing body.

http://indianexpress.com/article/sp...es-points-in-icc-womens-championship-4391983/
 
LOL. Here's wishing good luck to the ICC for booking profit from the tournament without the defending champions participating.

Don't worry

Cricket survived and well for long before Indian cricket came across money
 
Well we want that to be honest, no india in the tournament.

In reality, BCCI will not only shoot a bullet on their foot, but they will also ruin it for everyone, because if this Champions trophy turns to be a failure without them playing, then it could be the last champions trophy.
 
There shouldn't even be a Champions Trophy.

This was the four team World Test Championship until the BCCI refused and insisted on this meaningless dirge.

If India leaves, give us back the World Test Championship!
 
I hope the ICC doesn't give in. You gotta return the stubbornness. Fight fire w/fire. :junaid
 
Somebody explain to India, their soldiers lives have no more value than ours.

Along with Sport is a uniting force and politics shouldn't come in the way.

The ICC cannot backtrack and wont, so this will be interesting.
 
The funny part is that they are to blame for this whole situation.

That is a fair point, but had they even given their reason, it is a poor one. Yeah the situation isn't good, but this isn't some political debate, this is international cricket. Keep politics politics and cricket cricket.

They're free to pull out, I don't see how they can even think that they should be gifted a win-win situation where they don't play and not lose or gain any points.
 
BCCI is acting like a petulant bratty kid who wants special rules and special privileges for themselves. Either play or just quit the tournament.
 
People here are forgetting that BCCI does not decide whether they play Pakistan or not. It depends on clearance from the Government.

Why should they be penalised for something which is not in their control at all?

Were England penalised for not touring Zimbabwe?
 
Lol no other ICC chairman would not have gone against BCCI except one of its own Shashank Manohar.

BCCI being bullied by its own countrymen (Lodha committee from one side and Shashank Manohar from another) :yk

Time to bring in :srini
 
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Anurag Thakur has made BCCI a toothless organisation.

Say what you want about Srini but under him BCCI/India had ICC in check and nothing that displeased BCCI was ever brought into motion.

Now the officials at ICC are having the time of their life especially with Shashank himself having a vendetta against BCCI office bearers in the process hurting India's interest.


On the whole I think it is unfair to dock points because there is high tension across borders but if BCCI didn't bother to respond to ICC's emails then they have no right to complaint.
 
Am I dreaming ??

The ICC finally stepping up and showing the BCCI its place.

BCCI has been getting away with such nonsense for far too long, doing as it pleases.

What a pathetic bully this board is - if they want to pull out of the CT 2017 then I say good riddance.

Thanks to an Indian heading the ICC. :sachin
 
People here are forgetting that BCCI does not decide whether they play Pakistan or not. It depends on clearance from the Government.

Why should they be penalised for something which is not in their control at all?

Were England penalised for not touring Zimbabwe?

As per ICC rules, Indian government is forbidden to interfere in the running of BCCI. That goes for all broads. They are not allowed any govt interference.

Only way icc teams can skip playing another is if ICC boycotts like they did with South Africa during apartheid. All boards had to comply bank then.
 
http://indianexpress.com/article/sp...ions-trophy-women-pakistan-world-cup-4391593/

The Indian Cricket Board’s relations with the ICC, headed by Shashank Manohar, hit a new low after Indian women’s cricket team was docked six points for not playing bilateral series with Pakistan between August 1 to October 31 as per agreement.

There are possibilities that men’s team might not play Champions Trophy in protest against the women cricketers being made “soft targets” in the name of rules and regulations.

A furious BCCI has lodged a protest with the global body who are well aware that any bilateral series against Pakistan needs government permission under current political scenario, which ICC’s Indian chairman is well aware.

“ICC is well aware that in prevailing situation where Indian soldiers are being martyred, the sentiment is dead against playing Pakistan. The chairman is well aware that we need government permission,” a furious senior BCCI official said on Wednesday.

“This is a move with ulterior motive trying to play into the hands of Pakistan. They would say if women can play so can men. But that won’t happen. If ICC does not backtrack, the men’s team in solidarity with our women’s team won’t play in Champions Trophy,” he added.

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An ICC release on Wednesday stated: “Following consideration of written submissions from both PCB and BCCI, the ICC Technical Committee has ruled that the India Women’s team is deemed to have forfeited each of the three matches it was due to play against Pakistan in Round 6 of the ICC Women’s Championship, and that the associated points should be awarded to Pakistan.”

“The matches, which were due to be played between August 1 & October 31, 2016, were not formally scheduled and did not ultimately take place, and the Technical Committee has ruled that Pakistan will be awarded two points for each of the three games and, in accordance with the ICC Women’s Championship playing conditions, India shall be considered to have scored 0 runs in each of the 50 overs in each of the three matches and that its net run rate shall be adjusted accordingly.”

The Technical Committee said while it was sensitive to the current state of relations between the nations of India and Pakistan, but concluded that the BCCI had not been able to establish ‘acceptable reasons’ for not participating in the series.

The ICC’s relationship with BCCI has soured on a number of issues since Shashank Manohar became independent chairman. From changes proposed in revenue sharing to not having India in the working group, Manohar’s stance has been perceived by many as anti-India despite BCCI members having full faith in his leadership.

A top ranking office bearer of the BCCI commented: “It seems as if Manohar’s anti-BCCI stand is becoming an anti India stance. As a former BCCI president he is well aware why the men’s team could not play a bilateral series with Pakistan last year. Despite that if Indian women’s team is docked points for not playing Pakistan, it means he does not care about the public sentiment.”

With Parliament session on, BCCI president Anurag Thakur was unavailable for comment
 
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People here are forgetting that BCCI does not decide whether they play Pakistan or not. It depends on clearance from the Government.

Why should they be penalised for something which is not in their control at all?

Were England penalised for not touring Zimbabwe?

ICC is an international body, and has its own set of rules. Since BCCI represents the Indian national team, any forfeiture by the Indian government (for whatever reason) should be considered a forfeiture by BCCI, and should be treated as such. There is precedent of ICC going against governments, if their laws conflict with its own (read: South African cricket ban).
 
Expected Indian admins to be smarter but i guess most of the country is riding on the "patriotism" wave.
 
BCCI had written to govt. about playing Pakistan

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) had written to the Government of India seeking directions over playing Pakistan. The letter was written some time back but the BJP-led NDA government at the Centre had not responded in time for the BCCI to inform the ICC and the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) about the women’s team not playing against the arch-rivals.

As a consequence of this, the women’s team’s points got docked and its qualification for the Champions Trophy got difficult. The situation got complicated as the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) started talking of compensation for the Indian women’s team’s failure to play them at a neutral venue.

As a matter of policy, the BCCI had long decided that it will not play Pakistan at a neutral venue but the PCB claims that the Indian board had failed to produce a letter from the Government of India denying permission. The women’s matches were scheduled between August 31 and October 1.

The BCCI has the option of appealing against the ICC action but it will still need a letter from the Government. “We’re waiting for the government’s response and after that we will decide about the appeal,” said a top BCCI official saying that an appeal is a possible next step.

The Government of India’s stand is well known and it was spelt out by BCCI president Anurag Thakur himself. The BJP member, during his party’s conclave in Kozhikode in September, had made it clear that the BCCI is against the revival of bilateral ties with Pakistan.

However, the India and Pakistan teams are set to play in Bangkok where the women’s Asia Cup starts today. The match between the archrivals is on November 29 and as of now the match is on. The women’s team is already in Bangkok.

http://punemirror.indiatimes.com/sp...out-playing-Pakistan/articleshow/55626119.cms
 
This is a very complex issue.The Modi govt and before that the Congress govt has said many times that there cannot be any bilateral ties of sports with Pakistan.I remember that last year The BCCI sent a letter to govt asking for permission to play a series in SriLanka with Pakistan.The govt witheld permission for so long that the series was finally called off as there was no time left to hold it.Seems same have been the case here.

Now ICC is asking for letter from BCCI,issued by govt of india.Can ICC even ask Govt of India for such letters or anything?The govt can take its own sweet time to reply to any letters of BCCI or even not reply and the ICC can do little about it.If ICC takes actions againist BCCI,then we may have a repeat of the 2002 scenario where govt banned any remittances to ICC from Indian sponsors in retaliation of ICC threatening to ban India.The anti Pakistan feeling that is blowing in India at this moment will make any ICC moves againist India in support of Pakistan a highly inflammable event.

ICC can try to negotiate with BCCI but dragging in the govt will have far reaching effects.
 
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It was about time that this hyper jingoistic BCCI was put in its place, and the even part is that it's an indian who have done this, long may it continue.
 
This was a poor show by BCCI not to play. And now them crying over points docked is simply pathetic behaviour.
 
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