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Beating Sri Lanka: The definition of false hope

As an Indian i believe our bowling is worse than Zimbabwe,Ireland,Bangladesh,New Zealand and Sri Lanka and even the batting is massively overrated. However, even English bowling is being smashed by the Kiwis, Ireland gave Pakistan a scare and South Africa were pushed to the limit by PAK in home conditions so this Champions Trophy should be closely fought. No outright favourites this time. Some good competitive cricket and captaincy could see India win the tournament. But yeah the win over SL doesn't count for anything :afridi
 
If Kholi and MSD clicks the Indians can decimate any team and go on to hold the trophy, both are due for a bad patch, hopefully its a simultaneous bad patch for both Kholi and Dhoni, the Indians will then fail miserably in the Champions Trophy and the South Africans would only have there bones to chew on after.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
As an Indian i believe our bowling is worse than Zimbabwe,Ireland,Bangladesh,New Zealand and Sri Lanka and even the batting is massively overrated. However, even English bowling is being smashed by the Kiwis, Ireland gave Pakistan a scare and South Africa were pushed to the limit by PAK in home conditions so this Champions Trophy should be closely fought. No outright favourites this time. Some good competitive cricket and captaincy could see India win the tournament. But yeah the win over SL doesn't count for anything :afridi
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Why would you compare a good bowling line up to those bad ones :facepalm:
 
Beating Sri Lanka: The Definition of False Hope

Rohit Trashma is a serious weak link.

I don't buy Kartik either; a nothing batsman who is just a FTB.

India's hopes cling on Kohli, Dhoni and Raina.
 
So we didn't have to wait for the South African encounter after all.
 
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Varun said:
Tons up again today, to give him credit. Much rather him than Vijay.
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What score did the innings end on? Is it still going on?

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Varun said:
Tons up again today, to give him credit. Much rather him than Vijay.
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Too bad none of them goes into the history books and hence he is still stuck with an average of 27 :hamster:
 
HamzaSaeen said:
What score did the innings end on? Is it still going on?

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251/5 after 45 overs, Dhoni 84* and Karthik 111* have rescued us from 55/5 with a 196* run partnership.

As I type that, Karthik has dispatched another full length delivery courtesy Starc to the fence. 200 run partnership now.
 
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Australian bowling attack is also not so good! Doesn't change the 'false hope' fact. Except for a couple of innings, there was nothing to write about. And these kind off innings rarely come
 
I guess not.

West Indies up next. If Gayle goes into IPL mode against what is effectively an IPL club attack, they can finish us in under 30 overs as well.
 
Varun said:
False hope for the captain, false hope for the coach, false hope for the fans as usual, and false hope for Karthik and the "form" he's showed in this game.

South Africa will tear us apart, anybody with half a brain can see that.
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This thread is proven failure! Please eat your humble pie now:yk
 
Varun said:
I guess not.

West Indies up next. If Gayle goes into IPL mode against what is effectively an IPL club attack, they can finish us in under 30 overs as well.
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I would be more worried about Roach and Rampaul on a pacy Birmingham wicket. Gayle will struggle against Yadav and Kumar.
 
First time I've seen cricinfo credit 'batsmen and fielders' in their headline. :)))
 
Gunther said:
I would be more worried about Roach and Rampaul on a pacy Birmingham wicket. Gayle will struggle against Yadav and Kumar.
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Been a while since they've played any international cricket, hope they're rusty enough. Roach is especially coming after a lengthy injury layoff if I recall.
 
Varun said:
I guess not.

West Indies up next. If Gayle goes into IPL mode against what is effectively an IPL club attack, they can finish us in under 30 overs as well.
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Not really a club attack. Probably better than South Africa's in this tournament.
 
Varun said:
False hope for the captain, false hope for the coach, false hope for the fans as usual, and false hope for Karthik and the "form" he's showed in this game.

South Africa will tear us apart, anybody with half a brain can see that.
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:asif:msd:asif:msd:wasim
 
jashan83 said:
Still living in the past. You should go a little more when Pak and BD were one nation. Heights of trolling. I am a neutral but, sometimes when this class of trolling comes (From any side), I just say dudes get over Ind-Pak (Both Sides), there is life beyond this too
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Calm down ninja.

Having a larf once in a while doesn't hurt.
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
Keep the faith in Kushal. Only a matter of time before he tonks a 60 ball hundred over India or Pakistan.
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No doubt bladdy Arnold jinxed the fella talking him up the way he did prematurely. Idiotta. Hopefully :msd calls it quits in another couple of years maybe then we'll have a chance of giving it back to them the way we used to :asif
 
SL_Fan said:
No doubt bladdy Arnold jinxed the fella talking him up the way he did prematurely. Idiotta. Hopefully :msd calls it quits in another couple of years maybe then we'll have a chance of giving it back to them the way we used to :asif
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Please let Mahela open in the year or two of cricket that is left in him :facepalm:
 
SL_Fan said:
Man I miss those days. :good ol sana
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Look at the Indian team back then.

Badani, Joshi, Venkatesh Prasad, Kambli, Agarkar, Robin Singh..... Where should I start?

I think it was after this series, Sehwag landed in the Indian team and the transition started.

Jayasurya used to kick Indian trundlers on a regular basis back in 1996-2000. He was in his prime and our trundlers used to get curb stomped by him regularly.
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
Find me a more suitable thread :)
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You could've started a new thread for that. This thread predicted India's warmup match results will not replicate in actual matches, but it failed miserably. If India lost any of the matches in this tournament it would have made sense.
 
sticky_wkt said:
You could've started a new thread for that. This thread predicted India's warmup match results will not replicate in actual matches, but it failed miserably. If India lost any of the matches in this tournament it would have made sense.
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And you want me to open a new thread just for this? :facepalm:
 
mithun_minhas said:
Look at the Indian team back then.

Badani, Joshi, Venkatesh Prasad, Kambli, Agarkar, Robin Singh..... Where should I start?

I think it was after this series, Sehwag landed in the Indian team and the transition started.

Jayasurya used to kick Indian trundlers on a regular basis back in 1996-2000. He was in his prime and our trundlers used to get curb stomped by him regularly.
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He used to own Pakistani and Indian bowlers for fun back in the day.

Anyhow I liked Prasad :aamer

His partnership with Srinath was pretty underrated.
 
mithun_minhas said:
Look at the Indian team back then.

Badani, Joshi, Venkatesh Prasad, Kambli, Agarkar, Robin Singh..... Where should I start?

I think it was after this series, Sehwag landed in the Indian team and the transition started.

Jayasurya used to kick Indian trundlers on a regular basis back in 1996-2000. He was in his prime and our trundlers used to get curb stomped by him regularly.
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Those were the good ol days :asif
 
Take out Sangakkara and Jayawardene, you have your babies ready to get themselves whipped
 
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I think I read a stat on the telly during the Lanka innings in the first ODI (I flicked to the channel by mistake I swear) that the last time South Africa won an ODI against Lanka in Lanka was back in the year 1993. I might be wrong, because I swapped channels just a few milliseconds later lest I fell asleep watching Jayawardene at the wicket.

But if true, wow. Pakistan's last test victory against Australia also happened way back in that year and we know for sure that that was a long time ago.
 
Varun said:
I think I read a stat on the telly during the Lanka innings in the first ODI (I flicked to the channel by mistake I swear) that the last time South Africa won an ODI against Lanka in Lanka was back in the year 1993. I might be wrong, because I swapped channels just a few milliseconds later lest I fell asleep watching Jayawardene at the wicket.

But if true, wow. Pakistan's last test victory against Australia also happened way back in that year and we know for sure that that was a long time ago.
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Yeah it is true. But the last time the Saffers played in SL was in 2006 when every match was abandoned, not too many matches are played between these nations in SL.
 
Many of the Pakistani fans bring fixing topic everytime India beat SL, even in SL. Indirectly saying India bought the series but when it comes to someone else talking about fixing of the game that Pakistan won, same guys calling him tool, idiot,etc., :facepalm:

on this thread, many Pak fans suggesting BCCI fixed it.
 
idly sambar said:
Many of the Pakistani fans bring fixing topic everytime India beat SL, even in SL. Indirectly saying India bought the series but when it comes to someone else talking about fixing of the game that Pakistan won, same guys calling him tool, idiot,etc., :facepalm:

on this thread, many Pak fans suggesting BCCI fixed it.
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please quote a few?
 
idly sambar said:
Ok. Its a mistake on my part mentioning this thread. But I can get you a few threads where folks talking about BCCI fixing the games against SL.
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That's called lying. so at least now everyone knows not to take you seriously.
 
Sigh, they're making us look like champions again.

Watch us crash back to the usual drivel in the tri-series in Australia early next year, and in the World Cup that follows.
 
Varun said:
Sigh, they're making us look like champions again.

Watch us crash back to the usual drivel in the tri-series in Australia early next year, and in the World Cup that follows.
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back to back 350+ for India.........or for SL trundlers. You know your bowling team suck when Mahela and Kusal Perera bowls with economy that is 2x lower than your main fast bowlers:inti
 
Varun said:
Sigh, they're making us look like champions again.

Watch us crash back to the usual drivel in the tri-series in Australia early next year, and in the World Cup that follows.
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I find that Sri Lanka is the most overrated team on PP.

Look over a number of years and the performances aren't actually that good
 
Convict said:
I find that Sri Lanka is the most overrated team on PP.

Look over a number of years and the performances aren't actually that good
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Indians and Pakistanis keeps on fighting who is the best Asian team and just for mutual solace they give the credit to Lankans. But the fact is SL is behind both these Asian giants any day.
 
Big Boss said:
Indians and Pakistanis keeps on fighting who is the best Asian team and just for mutual solace they give the credit to Lankans. But the fact is SL is behind both these Asian giants any day.
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When it comes to bilateral series, I think India and Pak > SL.

But in World Tournaments or or Asia Cups, SL > Both
 
Big Boss said:
Indians and Pakistanis keeps on fighting who is the best Asian team and just for mutual solace they give the credit to Lankans. But the fact is SL is behind both these Asian giants any day.
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who won the Asia cup?

I know Sri Lankans don't have that big names but they are quite a hard working professional unit.
 
Kiri said:
When it comes to bilateral series, I think India and Pak > SL.

But in World Tournaments or or Asia Cups, SL > Both
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Actually that's probably why.

Sri Lanka is the the kind of team that performs better in world tournaments than you do everywhere else. Like the anti-South Africa
 
Varun said:
Sigh, they're making us look like champions again.

Watch us crash back to the usual drivel in the tri-series in Australia early next year, and in the World Cup that follows.
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we are the current Champions mind you !!
I agree beating this SL side means very little . Like some one said the most overrated side on this forum . Except for 2 aging batsmne there is not much quality in that side .
 
jusarrived said:
we are the current Champions mind you !!
I agree beating this SL side means very little . Like some one said the most overrated side on this forum . Except for 2 aging batsmne there is not much quality in that side .
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What you seem to forget is what made SL so tough to beat in the first half of 2013 was their 'team' spirit. Everyone contributes in a way for the good of the team.
 
Funny how SL don't play herath much in the shorter formats but give chances to every other prasanna and randiv.
 
Take sanga out of Sri Lanka and the quality of both their odi and test teams will drop down big time! Such a massive player
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Funny how SL don't play herath much in the shorter formats but give chances to every other prasanna and randiv.
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He did play against Pakistan so I don't see why he hasn't been picked for this series unless he's being rested (hidden).
 
MRSN said:
who won the Asia cup?

I know Sri Lankans don't have that big names but they are quite a hard working professional unit.
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Team unity is the power of Sri Lanka. Apart from Sangakkara and Malinga, everyone else live within about 100KM radius. Last time they had a beef within the team, Ranatunga made his rival quit cricket and migrate half way around the globe:2ar15smil
 
Varun said:
He did play against Pakistan so I don't see why he hasn't been picked for this series unless he's being rested (hidden).
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Indian batsman would destroy Herath. He is a mediocre LOI bowler
 
Varun said:
Sigh, they're making us look like champions again.

Watch us crash back to the usual drivel in the tri-series in Australia early next year, and in the World Cup that follows.
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The same tri-series and what not on Indian highways I'm sure India will do just fine no matter who they play. Outside of these flat tracks tho they'll get found out as always. Tbh can't believe ppl actually watch this rubbish. Flat tracks. Shorter boundaries. Two new balls. Harsher fielding restrictions than even T20s. Add more power plays to that as well. Might as well use a bowling machine and play 11 batsmen. It just ain't cricket.
 
SL_Fan said:
The same tri-series and what not on Indian highways I'm sure India will do just fine no matter who they play. Outside of these flat tracks tho they'll get found out as always. Tbh can't believe ppl actually watch this rubbish. Flat tracks. Shorter boundaries. Two new balls. Harsher fielding restrictions than even T20s. Add more power plays to that as well. Might as well use a bowling machine and play 11 batsmen. It just ain't cricket.
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This. I don't know why we're bothering sending a team down under.
 
Adil_94 said:
Indian batsman would destroy Herath. He is a mediocre LOI bowler
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Though we have thwacked him for runs in test cricket, I'm not confident we can hold up against the likes of him anymore when we have shelled wickets against someone like Moeen Ali.

I guess we'll know this time next year.
 
Convict said:
I find that Sri Lanka is the most overrated team on PP.

Look over a number of years and the performances aren't actually that good
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SL have only been playing international cricket since the 1980s. So they were minnows up until around the mid 1990s. In Tests yeah haven’t done much apart from a few good wins here and there thanks mainly to brilliant individual performances, but in recent times tho SL have started to put up consistent team performances both home and away. In LOIs however SL have been fairly consistent over the years and have achieved quite a bit.

Just off the top of my head when it comes to tourneys during the last 20 or so years:

Won a WC and got to 2 other WC finals
Won a T20 WC and got to 2 other T20 WC finals
Won an Asian Test championship and made it into the final of the other one
Champions Trophy joint winners
Has made it into the final in all Asia cups except just one and have won 5 of them (5 Ind 2 Pak)

Also SL has the 3rd best W/L in ODIs during the last 20 or so years and the best W/L in T20Is (excl minnows)

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...am=6;team=7;team=8;template=results;type=team

So overall been more than decent in LOIs. During the last 5 years or so India have had our number but against everyone else SL have done well.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...=8;template=results;type=team;view=opposition
 
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Varun said:
Though we have thwacked him for runs in test cricket, I'm not confident we can hold up against the likes of him anymore when we have shelled wickets against someone like Moeen Ali.

I guess we'll know this time next year.
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On these tracks he'll be taken apart as well. The game the way it is being played these days you need wicket takers. That's the only way you are going to keep the runs down. Even if you control the RR teams will blast away during the so called batting PP and the last 10 overs. And Herath is not an attacking bowler. He'll keep things tight at best.
 
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