Beijing could interfere in Kashmir, says Chinese media after Dalai Lama visits Arunachal

[Zak_Fan]

More anger and threats have come in from the Chinese side over the Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama’s ongoing visit to India’s easternmost state, Arunachal Pradesh.

The Chinese state media on Thursday threatened that Beijing could interfere in “turbulent” Kashmir against India’s invitation to the 82-year-old Tibetan leader, calling New Delhi’s move “clumsy and rude”.

China claims large parts of the Northeaster state as south Tibet and calls the Dharamsala-based Dalai Lama a separatist out to carve an independent Tibet within Chinese mainland.

Doing some muscle-flexing, an editorial in the state-run Global Times wondered if India would withstand a “geopolitical” onslaught from an economically, militarily and diplomatically stronger China.

“With a GDP (gross domestic product) several times higher than that of India, military capabilities that can reach the Indian Ocean and having good relations with India’s peripheral nations, coupled with the fact that India’s turbulent northern state borders China, if China engages in a geopolitical game with India, will Beijing lose to New Delhi?” it said.

China share borders with Pakistan-Occupied-Kashmir (PoK) and Ladakh in Jammu and Kashmir. The China-Pakistan Economic Corridor that passes through PoK has emerged as the latest sore spot between the two Asian giants.

Besides the media, officials and experts continued to attack India as well.

A top official said India was “losing its dignity”.

“This is not the first time that the Dalai Lama has visited south Tibet and called the region Indian territory, which means he is committed to separating the nation,” Zhu Weiqun, head of the ethnic and religious affairs committee of the National Committee of the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference, told the Global Times.

“India is losing its dignity as a big power by playing around with such a figure.”

Inviting the Dalai Lama could be India’s way to voice its disappointment with the recent strategic dialogue with China, Zhao Gancheng, director of the Center for Asia-Pacific Studies of the Shanghai Institutes for International Studies, told the nationalistic tabloid.

The two countries held talks in February, exchanging ideas on a number of issues, including India’s application to the nuclear suppliers group that Beijing has continued to block.

Zhu and Zhao’s views were backed by the editorial piece.

“The Dalai’s visit to Arunachal Pradesh this time is seen as New Delhi using the monk as a diplomatic tool to put pressure on China,” it said.

“But this is a clumsy and rude move. The Dalai is a highly politicised symbol in China’s diplomacy. For any country, its attitude toward the Dalai Lama almost affects the entire relationship with China.”

The editorial had a word of advice, too.

“The West has fully recognised the nature of the Dalai as a diplomatic card and is extremely prudent in using it. When the Dalai travels to the capital of a Western country, who will meet him, when and where would be carefully weighed.”

The editorial cautioned New Delhi it was possibly overestimating its leverage in ties with Beijing.

India had benefited from the good momentum in relationship as much as China and if it ruined the ties and turn two countries into rivals, could New Delhi “afford the consequence”?

“China considers India as a friendly neighbour and partner. China has never provoked bilateral disputes or made any pressing demand on India over the Dalai Lama. New Delhi should respond to Beijing’s goodwill with goodwill,” it said.

Beijing had on Wednesday asked India to stop the Dalai Lama’s visit immediately and summoned Indian ambassador VK Gokhale to lodge a protest.

India again said no political colour should be given to the visit but more fireworks are expected from Beijing when the Tibetan leader heads to Tawang, a Buddhist centre in Arunachal.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...-lama-visit/story-Z4kvoZACOVhlouQQpAAJOP.html

Some really interesting developments here. Could it be a window of opportunity for Pakistan?

 

[JaDed]

Lol they have Aksai Chin under their control,amusing to know they would only 'now' interfere in Kashmir.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

I don't know why they give the Dalai Lama so much importance. By repeatedly getting all worked up about him they are actually helping his cause. If they just ignored him it would be far better for the Chinese.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Awwwww China crying Awwwwww... This is China, do as we say NOT AS WE DO

- Block India's bid for NSG (CHECK)
- Protect terrorist Masood Azhar (CHECK)
- Arm Pakistan to cause headache for India (CHECK)
- Do whatever we have to do to see India does not rise as a global power (CHECK)

India in return:

India host Dalai Lama the holiness as their guest and CHINA GOES: NO NO NO NO NO, STOP IT YU INDIONSSSS IT IS NOT FAIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR (....

 

[Romali_rotti]

China wont be able to do SQUAT, any military aggression would see the US, Japan along with their other allies like the NATO instantly coming to India's aid and China would be screwed. So China needs to go back into it's cage and SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH cause Indians will do whatever they want in their own country.

 

[Slog]

Awwwww China crying Awwwwww... This is China, do as we say NOT AS WE DO

- Block India's bid for NSG (CHECK)
- Protect terrorist Masood Azhar (CHECK)
- Arm Pakistan to cause headache for India (CHECK)
- Do whatever we have to do to see India does not rise as a global power (CHECK)

India in return:

India host Dalai Lama the holiness as their guest and CHINA GOES: NO NO NO NO NO, STOP IT YU INDIONSSSS IT IS NOT FAIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR (....

China takes India's lunch money and then laughs at it and denies it even happened!

India stands in front of China like a harmless fly ready to be squatted down further

 

[Zak_Fan]

China takes India's lunch money and then laughs at it and denies it even happened!

India stands in front of China like a harmless fly ready to be squatted down further

Doesn't work like that. If a country like Pakistan with it's excuse of an economy can dream of resisting India, then India too has a more than fair chance against China. Remember, as lesser nations, the aim isn't to win, but to resist. India has that capability.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

China wont be able to do SQUAT, any military aggression would see the US, Japan along with their other allies like the NATO instantly coming to India's aid and China would be screwed. So China needs to go back into it's cage and SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH cause Indians will do whatever they want in their own country.

LOL. This is like the kid in the playground who poops his pants when challenged by another, then nervously looks over his shoulder to see if his pals are there:

"Come on Johnny...come on Brad....let's ALL of us teach this guy a lesson!.....wait Johnny...Brad...where are you going??"

 

[Slog]

Doesn't work like that. If a country like Pakistan with it's excuse of an economy can dream of resisting India, then India too has a more than fair chance against China. Remember, as lesser nations, the aim isn't to win, but to resist. India has that capability.

Lol nice try

World Bank figures:

GDP per capita

Pakistan : US$ 1435
India : US$ 1598
China: US$ 8028

China is streets ahead

 

[Romali_rotti]

China takes India's lunch money and then laughs at it and denies it even happened!

India stands in front of China like a harmless fly ready to be squatted down further

Yeah we can see the results so far lol, Dalai Lama has visited Arunchal Pradesh like what 9 times so far ? and China so far has been crying foul doing nothing....... All that lunch money from India

 

[Thomaskutty]

Every India article on China's mouthpiece paper mentions the GDP of both. I wonder why .. so insecure for a future superpower.. ?

 

[Slog]

Yeah we can see the results so far lol, Dalai Lama has visited Arunchal Pradesh like what 9 times so far ? and China so far has been crying foul doing nothing....... All that lunch money from India

Aksai chin is the lunch money

 

[Zak_Fan]

Lol nice try

World Bank figures:

GDP per capita

Pakistan : US$ 1435
India : US$ 1598
China: US$ 8028

China is streets ahead

This is why Pakistan needs to invest more on education. Per Capita income of Saudi Arabia is more than 6 times China's, so would it spank China at will?

Military expenditure is dictated by GDP, so share those numbers if it isn't too embarrassing.

 

[troodon]

What else will china do? They have been aiding Pak to counter India for decades now.
China grabbed a large chunk of Kashmir and gave it a nice Chinese name.

The only thing China can do is to stop flooding India with cheap rip offs of branded items.

Or wait, they will attack India and go for an all out war over a Buddhist monk.

Shameless China should first free Tibet which it illegally occupied.

China believes everything it sees belongs to them. They already are a huge country. Yet they fight over tiny territories with every friggin neighbor barring Pak.

Recently China has been bullying Philippines and calling some of the Philippines islands as their own.

 

[Slog]

This is why Pakistan needs to invest more on education. Per Capita income of Saudi Arabia is more than 6 times China's, so would it spank China at will?

Military expenditure is dictated by GDP, so share those numbers if it isn't too embarrassing.

so youre claiming india's military expenditure is comparable to china's? do share numbers

also you look at per capita and the total size. China is far far ahead on both counts

when 60% of your population is below poverty line you really dont have much grounds to stand on. Which is why india got whipped in 1962 by a china much weaker than today whereas relatively india was more at par

 

[troodon]

Aksai chin is the lunch money

Which belonged to Kashmiris. But stolen by China. Pak also did not do anything.

 

[Slog]

Which belonged to Kashmiris. But stolen by China. Pak also did not do anything.

lmao

so indian occuped kashmir belongs to india and not kashmiris who want to join pakistan or be independent.

but aksai china belongs to kashmiris. wah!

 

[Zak_Fan]

so youre claiming india's military expenditure is comparable to china's? do share numbers

also you look at per capita and the total size. China is far far ahead on both counts

when 60% of your population is below poverty line you really dont have much grounds to stand on. Which is why india got whipped in 1962 by a china much weaker than today whereas relatively india was more at par

Sure.

Military budget Pakistan (2015) = $7.6 Billion
Military budget India (2015) = $75.7 Billion
Military budget China (2015) = $146 Billion

So, my point stands. If Pakistan can dream of resisting India, India has more than a fair chance to resist China.

 

[LastManstanding]

so youre claiming india's military expenditure is comparable to china's? do share numbers

also you look at per capita and the total size. China is far far ahead on both counts

when 60% of your population is below poverty line you really dont have much grounds to stand on. Which is why india got whipped in 1962 by a china much weaker than today whereas relatively india was more at par

So are you saying India was spending the same amount on its military in 1962 as it is doing now?

 

[Zak_Fan]

so youre claiming india's military expenditure is comparable to china's? do share numbers

also you look at per capita and the total size. China is far far ahead on both counts

when 60% of your population is below poverty line you really dont have much grounds to stand on. Which is why india got whipped in 1962 by a china much weaker than today whereas relatively india was more at par

Use this list instead of numbers quoted above [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION]. It should be more accurate, and hopefully you will see the point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

 

[Saeed]

Makes sense. If you support separatist movements in China it's obvious they are not going to sit back.

 

[Slog]

So are you saying India was spending the same amount on its military in 1962 as it is doing now?

i am saying china is relatively much stronger now than 1962

 

[Zak_Fan]

China's strong opposition of Dalai Lama has left it feel embarrassed multiple times now. Dalai Lama doesn't even encourage any separatist movements, so I don't see the point. Happy to see that India and the world hasn't taken all this crying from China seriously.

 

[LastManstanding]

i am saying china is relatively much stronger now than 1962

India is also relatively stronger now than what China faced in 1962.

 

[Zak_Fan]

India is also relatively stronger now than what China faced in 1962.

What he is saying is that we lost to China in 1962 despite being a stronger nation economically. So how do we stand a chance now when they are nearly 5 times India's economy today? A fair comment tbh.

 

[Slog]

What he is saying is that we lost to China in 1962 despite being a stronger nation economically. So how do we stand a chance now when they are nearly 5 times India's economy today? A fair comment tbh.

Precisely.

Though the simple fact is that neither India nor China are dumb enough to even consider any war or even skirmish of some sort.

There is MUCH more to lose now as both countries have progressed a fair bit

 

[Syed1]

China wont be able to do SQUAT, any military aggression would see the US, Japan along with their other allies like the NATO instantly coming to India's aid and China would be screwed. So China needs to go back into it's cage and SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH cause Indians will do whatever they want in their own country.

) ) )


So India is nayi naveli dulhan for all those countries

 

[Syed1]

China is building her own fifth generation fighters and poor Indians cannot even produce a rickshaw level Tejas and they hope to compete with China ) )

 

[troodon]

lmao

so indian occuped kashmir belongs to india and not kashmiris who want to join pakistan or be independent.

but aksai china belongs to kashmiris. wah!

At least India and China can claim Kashmir. What has China got to do with Kashmir? Why did they usurp the land?

Shameless from people who claim entire Kashmir as theirs but gave away a huge chunk of land to a foreign country which has nothing to do with Kashmir.

 

[troodon]

China is building her own fifth generation fighters and poor Indians cannot even produce a rickshaw level Tejas and they hope to compete with China ) )

China is much more powerful militarily. No question. While India may lose the battle badly, it will also make lose whatever it has gained in the past couple of decades.

China is great at making empty threats. They have been threatening Taiwan for decades now without much success. If they cannot attack Taiwan, they surely cannot attack India now.

 

[troodon]

Do Pakistanis believe that Tibet belongs to China?

 

[Syed1]

China is much more powerful militarily. No question. While India may lose the battle badly, it will also make lose whatever it has gained in the past couple of decades.

China is great at making empty threats. They have been threatening Taiwan for decades now without much success. If they cannot attack Taiwan, they surely cannot attack India now.

China will be very dumb to start a military campaign against India.

However, this is China's way of saying they didn't like what India did.

 

[troodon]

China will be very dumb to start a military campaign against India.

However, this is China's way of saying they didn't like what India did.

India is not supplying arms to Tibetans or giving them training in India and sending them back to fight Chinese. I do not understand what China's problem is. They are scared of one old Buddhist monk who cannot even hurt an ant.

Tibetans are peaceful people and they cannot fight Chinese. Wonder what China is so worried about if Dalai Lama visits an Indian territory on a religious occasion.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Lol, This is no longer Nehru's weak India of bending over backwards and brown nosing. This is Bharat under a Hindu renaissance led by a true Hindu ruler after centuries of slavery. So if China even dares to mess with Bharat, we will make sure that there will be no China left on the world map!

 

[Enigma_]

If India really wants to play this game with Pakistan and China, then I am sure both will be happy to oblige. Delusion again sinking in for the Indians by the looks of it. Need a reminder of where they stand in the region and the world.

 

[Zak_Fan]

If India really wants to play this game with Pakistan and China, then I am sure both will be happy to oblige. Delusion again sinking in for the Indians by the looks of it. Need a reminder of where they stand in the region and the world.

How does Pakistan even come into the picture here? We are talking about big boys here.

 

[troodon]

If India really wants to play this game with Pakistan and China, then I am sure both will be happy to oblige. Delusion again sinking in for the Indians by the looks of it. Need a reminder of where they stand in the region and the world.

India is playing game with China?

China already played its dirty hand by grabbing Kashmir land which did not belong to them. No Chinese ever lived in Kashmir now or in the past. Shameless bully.

At least India and Pak can lay hands on it considering the religious similarity and Kashmir being the cradle of Hindu religion for thousands of years. What has China got on Kashmir except for grabbing it like a bully?

 

[Enigma_]

How does Pakistan even come into the picture here? We are talking about big boys here.

Pakistan comes into the picture because we are the only reason your country even takes these type of actions. You still haven't realised that you're on the wrong side of history in regards to local issues. Not China and Pakistan. India wants to do anything to stop the progress of pakistan, which means the SinoPak alliance. Don't worry if this escalates I assure you Pakistan and China will show what true unity and strength between two nations means.

 

[Enigma_]

India is playing game with China?

China already played its dirty hand by grabbing Kashmir land which did not belong to them. No Chinese ever lived in Kashmir now or in the past. Shameless bully.

At least India and Pak can lay hands on it considering the religious similarity and Kashmir being the cradle of Hindu religion for thousands of years. What has China got on Kashmir except for grabbing it like a bully?

India is absolutely playing a game with China. Why otherwise would you invite the Dalai lama? To have chai with him and banter? Delusions again. Off with the fairies.

And what does India have on Kashmir except grabbing it like a bully? And the only religious similarity that exists in Kashmir is the muslim one - which means Pakistan. China is an ally of Pakistan - something the Indian government still hasn't gotten its head around. It will support us on all issues including Kashmir and it will have our unconditional support back.

 

[Syed1]

India is playing game with China?

China already played its dirty hand by grabbing Kashmir land which did not belong to them. No Chinese ever lived in Kashmir now or in the past. Shameless bully.

At least India and Pak can lay hands on it considering the religious similarity and Kashmir being the cradle of Hindu religion for thousands of years. What has China got on Kashmir except for grabbing it like a bully?

Yeah China has a million strong army posted in Kashmir and is holding the land against the will of its residents.

 

[troodon]

Yeah China has a million strong army posted in Kashmir and is holding the land against the will of its residents.

So that means its okay for China to usurp land which never belonged to them at any point in the history of Earth just because the locals are not protesting.

Awesome Logic.

Pretty sure China has its army stationed there to keep an eye on India at least.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Pakistan comes into the picture because we are the only reason your country even takes these type of actions. You still haven't realised that you're on the wrong side of history in regards to local issues. Not China and Pakistan. India wants to do anything to stop the progress of pakistan, which means the SinoPak alliance. Don't worry if this escalates I assure you Pakistan and China will show what true unity and strength between two nations means.

What kind of actions? Hosting Dalai Lama?

 

[Enigma_]

What kind of actions? Hosting Dalai Lama?

Yes. This is a provocative action. If you can't see that then you're blind.

 

[Syed1]

So that means its okay for China to usurp land which never belonged to them at any point in the history of Earth just because the locals are not protesting.

Awesome Logic.

Pretty sure China has its army stationed there to keep an eye on India at least.

Why are you crying when someone is doing exactly what you have been doing, i.e, bullying.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Yes. This is a provocative action. If you can't see that then you're blind.

He lives in India, and is free to visit any Indian state. How would that be provocative to China?

 

[troodon]

Yes. This is a provocative action. If you can't see that then you're blind.

I heard Dalai Lama is planning an armed mutiny to take over Tibet and kick some dragon hiney

 

[Enigma_]

I heard Dalai Lama is planning an armed mutiny to take over Tibet and kick some dragon hiney

He lives in India, and is free to visit any Indian state. How would that be provocative to China?

It is provocative to China because he wants an independent Tibet. I am sure you can draw your own conclusions as to the mutual interests of your nation and the Dalai Lama. It isn't about his philosophical aspects of the human condition but what he's advocating. Tibet under international Treaty is recognized as a sovereign part of China. If you invite popular figures that go against this idea then I am pretty sure under every definition of the word 'provocative' it is seen as bloody provocative.

 

[Zak_Fan]

It is provocative to China because he wants an independent Tibet. I am sure you can draw your own conclusions as to the mutual interests of your nation and the Dalai Lama. It isn't about his philosophical aspects of the human condition but what he's advocating. Tibet under international Treaty is recognized as a sovereign part of China. If you invite popular figures that go against this idea than I am pretty sure under every definition of the word 'provocative' it is seen as bloody provocative.

What is wrong with independent Tibet? He is fine with Tibet being a part of China, but wants it to be autonomous and free. Shouldn't you be supporting this? #Humanity #kashmir

 

[JaDed]

We don't even need Chinese posters to defend China's political games here,looks like poor Uyghur Muslims aren't included in the circle of Muslim brotherhood.

Hail China!

 

[Syed1]

How about the 'oh so pure - fighter of oppression and upholder of justice' Dalai Lama raise a voice against the oppression of the Indian army against Kashmiri civilians? Or that is not oppression because China isn't doing it?

 

[Zak_Fan]

It is provocative to China because he wants an independent Tibet. I am sure you can draw your own conclusions as to the mutual interests of your nation and the Dalai Lama. It isn't about his philosophical aspects of the human condition but what he's advocating. Tibet under international Treaty is recognized as a sovereign part of China. If you invite popular figures that go against this idea then I am pretty sure under every definition of the word 'provocative' it is seen as bloody provocative.

^^ Also, you are still to answer how this whole thing translates to India playing games with Pakistan. Do you have anything to do with Tibet or Tibetans?

 

[Zak_Fan]

How about the 'oh so pure - fighter of oppression and upholder of justice' Dalai Lama raise a voice against the oppression of the Indian army against Kashmiri civilians? Or that is not oppression because China isn't doing it?

How about Pakistanis raising their voice against oppression in Balochistan.. or is it not oppression because Pakistani army is doing it?

Let's keep the trolling aside for a moment, and choose the right side. Would you support an oppressive Chinese regime over Dalai Lama?

 

[Syed1]

How about Pakistanis raising their voice against oppression in Balochistan.. or is it not oppression because Pakistani army is doing it?

Let's keep the trolling aside for a moment, and choose the right side. Would you support an oppressive Chinese regime over Dalai Lama?

I see no difference between oppressive China and oppressive India.


Baluchistan is internal matter of Pakistan and no second or third country is involved. The oppression of Baluchis is also blown out of proportion by the Indian propaganda you are fed daily. If there was so much oppression going on there would be armed uprising everywhere and daily news of stone-pelting and attacks.

 

[Enigma_]

What is wrong with independent Tibet? He is fine with Tibet being a part of China, but wants it to be autonomous and free. Shouldn't you be supporting this? #Humanity #kashmir

I knew you would bring this up. First of all Tibet has a very strong cultural and religious ties to China. There are very few which actually support the Dalai Lama in his cause for a free Tibet (or autonomous for that matter, they all start out that way and end up a freedom movement). Which brings us to Kashmir again (funny how it always comes to this - oh wait no it is not). Unlike Tibet Kashmir is recognised internationally as a disputed territory. India ironically enough holds the people there against their own will using millions of army men. Then plays the victim card. Truly a superpower.

^^ Also, you are still to answer how this whole thing translates to India playing games with Pakistan. Do you have anything to do with Tibet or Tibetans?

No but we have everything to do with China. They are our ALLY meaning that we need to support them if enemies in the region try to due mischievous things like you're doing now. And they help us on our needs in Kashmir. Pretty simple really. It is called geopolitics and friendship. Any concern of theirs is our concern and vice versa.

 

[Zak_Fan]

I see no difference between oppressive China and oppressive India.


Baluchistan is internal matter of Pakistan and no second or third country is involved. The oppression of Baluchis is also blown out of proportion by the Indian propaganda you are fed daily. If there was so much oppression going on there would be armed uprising everywhere and daily news of stone-pelting and attacks.

I disagree with you on the second paragraph, but good to read your first sentence. A lot better than our brother [MENTION=870]Enigma[/MENTION] supporting anything Chinese, even if it's oppression.

 

[Pakpak]

Sure.

Military budget Pakistan (2015) = $7.6 Billion
Military budget India (2015) = $75.7 Billion
Military budget China (2015) = $146 Billion

So, my point stands. If Pakistan can dream of resisting India, India has more than a fair chance to resist China.

A lie really. India's budget is $40-51 billion, nowhere near 75. And China's is $155-$215 billion.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Military/Budget
http://www.globalfirepower.com/defense-spending-budget.asp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

 

[Zak_Fan]

A lie really. India's budget is $40-51 billion, nowhere near 75. And China's is $155-$215 billion.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Military/Budget
http://www.globalfirepower.com/defense-spending-budget.asp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

Something I corrected the very next post (#20 for reference). Indian budget stands at $54 Billion.

 

[bleaf27]

China takes India's lunch money and then laughs at it and denies it even happened!

India stands in front of China like a harmless fly ready to be squatted down further

Really ? I only see China crying and throwing a hissy fit at this point , no one else.

And if you want to take analogy - India is that kid who Pakistan is scared of and gives his lunch money to China to settle things for them.

 

[bleaf27]

I knew you would bring this up. First of all Tibet has a very strong cultural and religious ties to China. There are very few which actually support the Dalai Lama in his cause for a free Tibet (or autonomous for that matter, they all start out that way and end up a freedom movement). Which brings us to Kashmir again (funny how it always comes to this - oh wait no it is not). Unlike Tibet Kashmir is recognised internationally as a disputed territory. India ironically enough holds the people there against their own will using millions of army men. Then plays the victim card. Truly a superpower.



No but we have everything to do with China. They are our ALLY meaning that we need to support them if enemies in the region try to due mischievous things like you're doing now. And they help us on our needs in Kashmir. Pretty simple really. It is called geopolitics and friendship. Any concern of theirs is our concern and vice versa.

Religious ties to China ?? Very few who support free Tibet ? Some astonishing facts right here ! I hope you really have some very credible inside information except you know pure emotions talking here

 

[Syed1]

Really ? I only see China crying and throwing a hissy fit at this point , no one else.

And if you want to take analogy - India is that kid who Pakistan is scared of and gives his lunch money to China to settle things for them.

Sure thing... and we are the ones catching pigeons and calling them Pakistani spies

 

[bleaf27]

Sure thing... and we are the ones catching pigeons and calling them Pakistani spies

How does pigeons relate to China having a hissy fit ?

 

[Specialisttailender]

China will not invade India and occupy anymore land than they already have. Who is this clown that thinks China will invade India ?

 

[bleaf27]

I see no difference between oppressive China and oppressive India.


Baluchistan is internal matter of Pakistan and no second or third country is involved. The oppression of Baluchis is also blown out of proportion by the Indian propaganda you are fed daily. If there was so much oppression going on there would be armed uprising everywhere and daily news of stone-pelting and attacks.

Just as Baluchistan as internal matter of Pakistan which is debatable , Jammu and Kashmir is an internal matter of India - pretty simple

 

[Syed1]

How does pigeons relate to China having a hissy fit ?

You said Pakistan is scared of India, but you are catching pigeons and calling them Pakistani spies LMAO

 

[Syed1]

Just as Baluchistan as internal matter of Pakistan which is debatable , Jammu and Kashmir is an internal matter of India - pretty simple

How the hell is it internal matter of India when it is a disputed territory between two countries.

 

[bleaf27]

I see no difference between oppressive China and oppressive India.


Baluchistan is internal matter of Pakistan and no second or third country is involved. The oppression of Baluchis is also blown out of proportion by the Indian propaganda you are fed daily. If there was so much oppression going on there would be armed uprising everywhere and daily news of stone-pelting and attacks.

As long as the government stays silent on Balochistan, the longest civil war in Pakistan's history will only create more casualties and break more records for longevity and heartbreak.

Longest civil war within the country , mass murders going on and it seems unimportant .
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26272897

 

[bleaf27]

How the hell is it internal matter of India when it is a disputed territory between two countries.

Well if you believe the stupid logic that is being provided to you of if it being disputed then in same accord India has claim for Baluchistan , it is a disputed territory as well . Bring that to the table and talk

 

[Syed1]

Well if you believe the stupid logic that is being provided to you of if it being disputed then in same accord India has claim for Baluchistan , it is a disputed territory as well . Bring that to the table and talk

You just revealed your wit (or lack of)


Have a good day sir.

 

[Specialisttailender]

This is why Pakistan needs to invest more on education. Per Capita income of Saudi Arabia is more than 6 times China's, so would it spank China at will?

Military expenditure is dictated by GDP, so share those numbers if it isn't too embarrassing.

India should do the same. If Pakistan's GDP per capital is only about $150 less than us, why are we spending 10X more than Pakistan ? Can't afford to spend 75 Billion on military, like wth ? We only need $10B dollars to protect our border or maybe even $20B. The day our leaders get their health treatment done in our government hospitals and send their kids to government schools is the day we can afford to spend lavishly on war materials. We are still a 3rd world country.

 

[Syed1]

India should do the same. If Pakistan's GDP per capital is only about $150 less than us, why are we spending 10X more than Pakistan ? Can't afford to spend 75 Billion on military, like wth ? We only need $10B dollars to protect our border or maybe even $20B. The day our leaders get their health treatment done in our government hospitals and send their kids to government schools is the day we can afford to spend lavishly on war materials. We are still a 3rd world country.

Finally an Indian who calls a spade a spade. Respect sir.

 

[bleaf27]

You just revealed your wit (or lack of)


Have a good day sir.

Exactly, so the "Kashmir" rhetoric that is fed to you is pretty much on similar grounds. It remains an internal issue and always remain so. You guys have your hands full with Balochistan , sort that out first

 

[bleaf27]

India should do the same. If Pakistan's GDP per capital is only about $150 less than us, why are we spending 10X more than Pakistan ? Can't afford to spend 75 Billion on military, like wth ? We only need $10B dollars to protect our border or maybe even $20B. The day our leaders get their health treatment done in our government hospitals and send their kids to government schools is the day we can afford to spend lavishly on war materials. We are still a 3rd world country.

India's geopolitical location isn't like Australia's. Definitely need to spend more on health and other social issues but defense budget in no way is less of a priority.

 

[Specialisttailender]

India's geopolitical location isn't like Australia's. Definitely need to spend more on health and other social issues but defense budget in no way is less of a priority.

$75 billion dollar is not enough to stop Pakistan assisted terrorist from crossing over the border while smuggling weapons that was required for the operation, attack a military camp, inflict damages and successfully cross back to the Pakistani side while the border guards are at 100% full alert. Maybe $700 Billion dollars will be enough or maybe it wasn't Pakistan assisted terrorists ? Maybe it was pounding by home grown terrorists and Mr.Clean India is too ashamed to admit ?

 

[Zak_Fan]

India should do the same. If Pakistan's GDP per capital is only about $150 less than us, why are we spending 10X more than Pakistan ? Can't afford to spend 75 Billion on military, like wth ? We only need $10B dollars to protect our border or maybe even $20B. The day our leaders get their health treatment done in our government hospitals and send their kids to government schools is the day we can afford to spend lavishly on war materials. We are still a 3rd world country.

I don't mind Pakistanis acting like illiterates, but fellow Indians doing the same breaks my heart.

India's GDP is $2.6 trillion. Pakistani GDP is $284 billion. Do your maths again before countering me with such nonsense.

 

[Syed1]

I don't mind Pakistanis acting like illiterates, but fellow Indians doing the same breaks my heart.

India's GDP is $2.6 trillion. Pakistani GDP is $284 billion. Do your maths again before countering me with such nonsense.

The only one being illiterate is YOU.


India's population is multiple times bigger than ours and therefore the GDP also has to be substantially higher for both populations to have same standard of living.


Gain knowledge before calling others illiterate.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Indian moves to keep the Lama have only made things worse for them. Probably one of the most stupid political moves in modern history.

 

[Saeed]

The only one being illiterate is YOU.


India's population is multiple times bigger than ours and therefore the GDP also has to be substantially higher for both populations to have same standard of living.


Gain knowledge before calling others illiterate.

He probably doesn't even know how to calculate GDP.

 

[Zak_Fan]

The only one being illiterate is YOU.


India's population is multiple times bigger than ours and therefore the GDP also has to be substantially higher for both populations to have same standard of living.


Gain knowledge before calling others illiterate.

Indian population is irrelevant here. A country's military budget is governed by it's purchasing power, which again depends on GDP. There is a reason why China despite having fractions of Per Capita compared to most developed nations spends far far more on military than anything those developed countries can dream of spending.

 

[Syed1]

Indian population is irrelevant here. A country's military budget is governed by it's purchasing power, which again depends on GDP. There is a reason why China despite having fractions of Per Capita compared to most developed nations spends far far more on military than anything those developed countries can dream of spending.

Ok Mr.Illiterate, here is Economy 101 for you:

Per Capita Income = GDP of country / Population of country




Try to wrap your head around this basic concept and then we will move to lesson number 2.

 

[Zak_Fan]

He probably doesn't even know how to calculate GDP.

Teach me why a country's defense budget should be a reflection of it's per capita income. I am all ears.