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With Hashim Amla retired now, all the elite test batters that debuted around mid-00s have retired.

Rank them in terms of merits in tests cricket?

Younis Khan
Kevin Petersen
Michael Clarke
AB de Villiers
Hashim Amla
Alastair Cook
Mike Hussey

Discuss!
 
Kp because he played so many good many knocks
158 vs australia at oval 2005 (ashes winning knock against the likes of shane warne, mcgrath and brett Lee)
129 vs newzealand at napier 2008 (deciding pitch and difficult pitch)
227 vs australia at adelaide 2011(because of that innigs it showed england were favourites)
142 vs srilanka at edgbaston 2006(masterful stroke-play Vs muttiah muralitharan)
149 vs southafrica at headlingley 2012(unbelievable strokes against dale steyn and morne morkel )
186 vs india at mumbai 2012(turning wicket at mumbai against ravi ashwin and pragyan ojha - A masterclass)
out of all his 100's he scored england lost only 1 match.
a shame that his ego destroyed his carrer.
 
For me,it will be Younis Khan.

A phenomenal player of spin and his grit, patience and determination ensured he can perform and win matches in all countries.
 
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For me,it will be Younis Khan.

A phenomenal player of spin and his grit, patience and determination ensured he can perform and win matches in all countries.

don't ever recall him playing well vs saffers and he never helped pak win a game vs Aussies.

KP it is for me.
 
Kp because he played so many good many knocks
158 vs australia at oval 2005 (ashes winning knock against the likes of shane warne, mcgrath and brett Lee)
129 vs newzealand at napier 2008 (deciding pitch and difficult pitch)
227 vs australia at adelaide 2011(because of that innigs it showed england were favourites)
142 vs srilanka at edgbaston 2006(masterful stroke-play Vs muttiah muralitharan)
149 vs southafrica at headlingley 2012(unbelievable strokes against dale steyn and morne morkel )
186 vs india at mumbai 2012(turning wicket at mumbai against ravi ashwin and pragyan ojha - A masterclass)
out of all his 100's he scored england lost only 1 match.
a shame that his ego destroyed his carrer.

Rather than a great batsman, he was a player of great innings.
 
And what about a lot innings in which he failed and his team lost resultantly?

compared to others players he has won more matches and he was the one england won their first world icc cup in 2010.
 
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don't ever recall him playing well vs saffers and he never helped pak win a game vs Aussies.

KP it is for me.

2014 UAE series.

The way he dominated Aussies that series, it was simply phenomenal.A dominance of highest order.

4 hundreds Vs South Africa also.

2 in 2007 series
1 in 2010 and 1 away in 2013.
 
yes it was wt20.

IMO in tests,

Younis
KP
Clarke
Cook
Amla
AB
Hussey

All in same tier though. Hard to seperate. Hussey at bottom as he was a bit late bloomer and lot of his runs came on home pitches which were flat.
 
IMO in tests,

Younis
KP
Clarke
Cook
Amla
AB
Hussey

All in same tier though. Hard to seperate. Hussey at bottom as he was a bit late bloomer and lot of his runs came on home pitches which were flat.

younis might be clutch,consistent but in terms of impact kp is ahead he can change a test match in a session.
you are right hussey is not that good as compared to others in tests but lets not forget it,hussey won the test series in srilanka after disastrous ashes for australia at home in 2011
 
With Hashim Amla retired now, all the elite test batters that debuted around mid-00s have retired.

Rank them in terms of merits in tests cricket?

Younis Khan
Kevin Petersen
Michael Clarke
AB de Villiers
Hashim Amla
Alastair Cook
Mike Hussey

Discuss!

I would say Cook was the most successful and influential from this list. He succeeded in away tournaments too (India, Australia etc.).
 
I would say Cook was the most successful and influential from this list. He succeeded in away tournaments too (India, Australia etc.).

even amla succeedded in england,australia,srilanka it means he was successful.
 
even amla succeedded in england,australia,srilanka it means he was successful.

Both Amla and Cook are legends in my book but Cook slightly edges ahead.

Cook helped England beat India in India. No other team has done that in recent times.
 
YK, Cook and KP for me. Phenomenal players.

Both AB and Amla massively underachieved.

Clarke and Hussey are Aussie greats.
 
michael clarke did it in 2004

You are correct. Only Aussies and Poms beat India in India in the past 16 years.

But, that Aussie team was the greatest team ever. The England team was not that good.
 
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You are correct. Only Aussies and Poms beat India in India in the past 16 years.

But, that Aussie team was the greatest team ever. The England team was not that good.

that england team won in australia,drew in southafrica,drew in srilanka,team was not that good as compared to australia but not that bad as well.
southafrica also defeated in india 2000 and drew 2 series in 2008,2010
 
With Hashim Amla retired now, all the elite test batters that debuted around mid-00s have retired.

Rank them in terms of merits in tests cricket?

Younis Khan
Kevin Petersen
Michael Clarke
AB de Villiers
Hashim Amla
Alastair Cook
Mike Hussey

Discuss!

Younis Khan debuted in the year 2000, how does he fit into your criteria?

We can discuss the remaining names and I have been thinking about Hash's retirement for a while myself...it feels like the end of an era, the last of the greats who debuted this century (Steyn and AB are now gone too, Khan left earlier, Ajmal, Swann have not been around for years). I know there is talk of Wlliamson, Kohli, Root, Smith and now Babar, but the former four still have large chunks of tehir careers remaining and Babar is still in his infancy. At some stage, I may even list or at least create a criteria to rate the best players to have debuted in the 21st century but for now, these batsmen will do.

1. Kevin Pietersen - The question is, who else can be at number one? He played match winning knock after match winning knock, did to Warnie and McGrath what Tendulkar, Lara, Inzamam and co could never manage and took it to Steyn and Murali too. I think his only real kryptonite was Asif and a slower ball from Akhtar. So few batsmen have looked so imperious at their best and none moreso since Viv.

2. Hashim Amla - I was there at the Oval when Amla struck his 300, I was there when he struck a beautiful century against SL in the CT2017...there is no South African cricketer I have seen more often than Amla. His poise at the crease, his ability to adapt to every format and in particular, his importance to the side in the five day game is unparalleled. He was part of SAs greatest ever test side and for a period, their most important batsman.

3. AB de Villiers - With Amla at the top of the order, very few middle order batsmen have had the freedom to play the way AB enjoyed his entire career. It also helped that he was the greatest timer of the ball this side of Zaheer Abbas and had self belief that even Viv and KP would be envious of. AB became cricket's first true, 360 batsman, with feet as light as air and strong, robust forearms and shoulders. Few have touched his heights.

4. Alastair Cook - One of the truly great openers the game has ever seen. His serenity at the crease and selection of shots was underlined by an iron focus unlike any modern batsman. His runs were crucial, his time at the crease even more so. He shielded a plethora of top English batsmen from the new ball, from Trott, Bell and KP to Joe Root. It is impossible to imagine the golden age 09-12 without Cooky.

5. Michael Clarke - Ponting's deputy and heir apparent, he never quite lived up to those expectations but he was very good in his own right. A tough batsman, with a compact game and a solid all round ability against most attacks and on most pitches.

6. Mike Hussey - Not sure I would label him alongside these guys in tests.
 
compared to others players he has won more matches and he was the one england won their first world icc cup in 2010.

Bowlers win matches. Batsmen don't, though they can put bowlers in the position to win matches.

This is why Swann was the best player of the fine England side of 2009-12, not KP.
 
Bowlers win matches. Batsmen don't, though they can put bowlers in the position to win matches.

This is why Swann was the best player of the fine England side of 2009-12, not KP.

oh that quitter
 
With Hashim Amla retired now, all the elite test batters that debuted around mid-00s have retired.

Rank them in terms of merits in tests cricket?

Younis Khan
Kevin Petersen
Michael Clarke
AB de Villiers
Hashim Amla
Alastair Cook
Mike Hussey

Discuss!

1) Hashim Amla
2) Younis Khan
3) Alastair Cook
4) Kevin Pietersen
5) Michael Clarke
6) AB de Villiers
7) Mike Hussey

Amla is the only one who was completely bullet-proof when all these guys were playing. Conditions or bowlers did not matter and he was almost guaranteed to score and score big batting at #3, while being forced to negotiate hostile batting conditions in every home series.

The rest of them all had some sort of weakness or a negative that held them back:

- Younis: Not the best player of bounce and played in the UAE a lot.
- Cook: Struggled against the best pace attacks.
- Clarke: Batted at five and struggled against spin.
- KP: Inconsistent.
- ABD: Had very few standout moments in tests.
- Hussey: Not an elite test batsman.
 
Rather than a great batsman, he was a player of great innings.

This. He played some fabulous knocks but never got a consistent run going. Still a great player but inferior to Cook from his own team.
 
1) Hashim Amla
2) Younis Khan
3) Alastair Cook
4) Kevin Pietersen
5) Michael Clarke
6) AB de Villiers
7) Mike Hussey

Amla is the only one who was completely bullet-proof when all these guys were playing. Conditions or bowlers did not matter and he was almost guaranteed to score and score big batting at #3, while being forced to negotiate hostile batting conditions in every home series.

The rest of them all had some sort of weakness or a negative that held them back:

- Younis: Not the best player of bounce and played in the UAE a lot.
- Cook: Struggled against the best pace attacks.
- Clarke: Batted at five and struggled against spin.
- KP: Inconsistent.
- ABD: Had very few standout moments in tests.
- Hussey: Not an elite test batsman.

clarke not good against the spin are you kidding me?,are judging his record in u.a.e and he was suffering from back pain that is the reason he didnt play for a long time.
he scored a century in his debut in india and averages 40 still it is good.
he has done well in srilanka.
 
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For me:

Hashim Amla
Younis Khan
Alastair Cook
AB de Villiers
Kevin Pietersen
Michael Clarke
Michael Hussey

It is very close between Younis Khan and Hashim Amla for the number one.
 
clarke not good against the spin are you kidding me?,are judging his record in u.a.e and he was suffering from back pain that is the reason he didnt play for a long time.
he scored a century in his debut in india and averages 40 still it is good.
he has done well in srilanka.

He was fit enough to play in the UAE but not good enough to tackle the Pak spinners. He didn't do too well against India in the last series he played there either. There is enough evidence somewhere in the archives of this forum that highlights his weakness against spin.
 
Younis Khan shouldn't be in that list as played his first test in 2000 (the same year as the great Kumar Sangakkara).

Remove Younis from the list and add Ross Taylor (not retired yet) who made his test debut in 2007.
 
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