Do not spin yarns and do not try and wriggle out of this one like a snake.Yes majority of Indians didn't vote for Modi yet BJP and his allies has 350+ seats in parliament. I know you aren't that sharp but atleast make some sense sometime. 37% voted for BJP but out of what? You do realize 100% never turns out to vote right? The voters turn out always around 60-65% mark.
Twist or cry how much you want, there is no denying Modi's popularity in India or overseas.
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Do not spin yarns and do not try and wriggle out of this one like a snake.
The claim was majority of Indians voted for Modi (not majority of seats) this is an outright lie, even by your admittance above.
Get over it, you've sided with a Pakistani to humiliate your Hindutva brethrens claims.
You will get over it, and understand how voting works if your are ever eligible to vote.
Now get back to your dream of a Hindu rastra.
Nothing is more pleasing than destroying RSS silos.
You followed enough to agree with me.
Okay couldn't follow half the things you wrote
The fact you cannot accept 37% is not the majority of India electorate, or even India population, explains why Indian Hindus never had an autonomy for over 5000 years.
More than 50%. I cannot believe I am having to explain this to you.
The majority according to him is what the Army decides, as in Pakistan.
Well certainly not a PDF file that was created this month and palmed off as evidence of Canadian terror suspects.
Whatever aids in your coping mechanism, mate.
No shame, you are fine in fabricating evidence.
You don't understand plain english? How many times I have to repeat full 100% people of India never votes in any election.
Which part of the phrase "Indian electorate of 850M" above did you not understand?
Here, let me explain..
this statement of yours tells me you have zero clue about pakistani domestic politics and how it works. pakistan has a plethora of religious political parties and never.. i repeat NEVER even once has any of them been in power. Pakistanis dont vote for religious political party contrary to what is fed to you and your countrymen, the average citizen of Pakistan is not keen on seeing religious parties in power. Even if you claim the army interfered with the election, if a party had mass following they will be voted in and will at least be a power player domestically. And that has never happened. They are mostly there to just deliver speechess and sit in the opposition with their paltry number of seats.
Could it be because Pakistanis are spoiled for choice when it comes to Islamic religious parties?
Simple answer, NO!
The Indian media does not say that Pakistanis will vote for religious parties. It says that the Pakistan Army decides who rules the country, which is really not far off the mark if you look at the past.
Okay!
Regarding Pak army, sadly true.
Such an ill-informed, illogical and redundant argument which is always regurgitated by Bharati.
I dont think so. The ground realities of Pakistanis and the way they think are not what is taught to most Indians. You think every Pakistani male goes around wearing a topi and a musalla tucked under their arms and all women wear burqas and stay at home and dont go to school and that we all pray five times a day. The truth is very different. The people that matter i.e the voting subsection of the population, who use their vote are vastly centrists. So they will be left of the religiopolitical block and quite frankly they hate the hateful and divisive manifesto of the religious political parties.
That is categorically false. Minorities have rights, Islam provides minorities rights and they hold various important positions in district management, police, armed forces, and even politics. The only position a non Muslim cannot hold is the commander in chief, (President and PM)
You were probably trying to be sarcastic in some pretty poor way, but what you have said is actually 100% true. We have never voted in a relgious political leader. NEVER!
It is quite different, the vast majority had a choice and they elected a bigot in Bharat.
Arab population did not have a choice.
A repressive, 38% poverty rate, and literacy rate of 58%, Pakistan, has never elected a religious extremist.
Since Bharati love comparing with Pakistan
Why are we dealing in suppositions and whatif scenarios? I have already said its a pipe dream.
Right.
Pakistan is not made in the name of a religion, that is also categorically false. Pakistan was made to protect Muslims from the relgious bigotry and discrimination of majority Hindus once the british left, so it was created as a land where Muslims can exercise their religious freedoms and not be discriminated against. It means others who practice other faiths can live here too and have equal rights apart from the one I already mentioned (they cannot hold the highest office)
There you go with same repeated comment when you have nothing useful to add to a discussion on a discussion forum.
No, it does not hurt our feelings at all.
When you dont have any valid argument, you go on hyperbole. You are known for it. Am I supposed to simply accept all that garbage because well you just said it so it has to be true? at least in our case there is some evidence in that Modi was banned from entering US because of his role in the gujarat genocide of muslims.
There you go with same repeated comment when you have nothing useful to add to a discussion on a discussion forum.
'we do not care what foreigners think' - are we discussion what India think of what foreigners think of India?
'Who on this forum claim to be providing certification' - does this forum looks or represent a notary office or clerk office?
Plenty of Pakistani, including me, have highlight the plight of Pakistani non-muslim treatment and also highlighted the reason for it and hope it to be changed.
Your posts are always amusing but also sad that you can only come up with 'copy & past' kind of response when Bharat is discussed.
LOL,
No one care about Bharat if half the population wasn't dug in on Pakistan sites spewing their propaganda. This thread being a fine example.
Neither have we. There is nothing called religious leader. There is absolutely nothing that Modi or BJP has done that is exclusive for Hindus. The bills that he is introducing, the development he is doing, bank accounts he is opening for poor, 100% electricty in villages....every Indian is getting benefit out of it. The only thing he has done though is taking many steps that were not taken for years due to minority appeasement And if you indication is Modi belonged from RSS, I would like you to read more about them and what they stand for.
LOL,
Killing people for transporting cows.
Rape because they are muslim.
Forced to say Jai shri ram or get killed.
Mosque being burnt.
Politicians racist comments in India's parliament against Muslims.
PM India racist and bigoted comments.
PM India was banned for supporting of killing minorities.
Homes destroyed because it belongs to Muslims.
Few examples above are neither lip service nor political corrections, just facts.
Again, with "what about Pakistan" lol.
Stop selling yourself short, you can do better
Point taken. So by that token if I am not mistaken, in another thread you want bharat a Hindu rashtra, so wouldn’t that mean you are heading in the same direction?
No! Trying to highlight that ruling party of India has weaponized India's history for political gains and only promoting and supporting Hindutva by acquitting them of their crimes.
There is clear distinction, posters have highlighted the point you have raised, and you've ignored that distinction.If I had a penny everytime I heard this absurdity by Pakistani liberals, I'd be rich by now.
Pakistan is a religious state legally and ideologically. So any political party that pledges allegiance to its Constitution automatically becomes an extension of this religious state. Your Constitution will not allow political parties to make any law that goes against Islam.
Every single leader you've had from 1947 is by default a religious one.
And if I had a penny for every single time a bharati Hindu tried defining Pakistan and Pakistanis on the basis of religion. Do you have any idea the constitution under which Pakistan operates is not sharia law. It’s a combination of British commonwealth law and Islamic jurisprudence. Some states in Bharat prohibit the slaughter of cows. So how does that make India a secular or non religious country? It doesn’t and yet that’s what you guys claim.If I had a penny everytime I heard this absurdity by Pakistani liberals, I'd be rich by now.
Pakistan is a religious state legally and ideologically. So any political party that pledges allegiance to its Constitution automatically becomes an extension of this religious state. Your Constitution will not allow political parties to make any law that goes against Islam.
Every single leader you've had from 1947 is by default a religious one.
but what facts? what facts have you provided? why dont you look at the party manifestos of the big stakeholders in pakistan.
Thats is the influence of religion, but does it make it a religious state? Like I mentioned in the US some states cannot sell alcohol during churh hours on sunday mornings (9-12). Does that make US a Christian state? Does that make India a hindu state if certain states prohibit slaughter of cows? You cannot doge your own logic and imply it when it comes to pakistan.
I feel we are going around in circles, I have already made my point. So yes, let agree to disagree.Pakistan has an official state religion and a constitutional clause that says 'All existing laws shall be brought in conformity with the Injunctions of Islam as laid down in the Holy Quran and Sunnah'. There's also a Islamic Council to guide lawmakers when making bills.
Council of Islamic Ideology - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
And still @Stewie says Pakistan is not a religious state.
Let's just agree to disagree.
Btw if India does become a Hindu Rashtra, there will likely be a nationwide ban on cow slaughter. Some bhakt judge in the Supreme Court would justify the ban because of the country's newfound religious status. You can see the perils of legal basis.
Again, I do not want to educate Bharati on Bharat's matter, but since you refuse to understand then I'll try it one last time.
Why do you think there is all this communal hatred in Bharat? When did it first start? was it always like this? when did it get worse? The bad Muslim Hindu relations in Bharat, have in no way a reflection on Pakistan or Pakistan's fault. Thats the internal matter of India. Pakistani public here has/can/will continue to comment because of the brotherhood we feel with the muslims of the subcontinent but by and large this is an internal indian problem, one that you cannot use to defend actions. If Muslims were perpetrators of a crime, they should rightly by punished and vice versa should the hindus. But there is some honest soul searching Bharatis need to do in this regard and look at yourselves in the mirror. the first step is the admission and ownership of the issue, determination of the reasons behind the issue and then putting a solution in place. From the looks of it, both sides seem to love to antagonize each other and now that a RW hindu party is in power, they have done nothing to dial down the rhetoric. They continue to fight for and promote for a Hindu Rastra. How do you think that goes down with the muslims there?
I do not think I could be any clearer and I was hoping the common sense in the argument would be enough for any adult to comprehend what was stated but I guess it seem you either chose to refuse to understand such an elementary concept because you want to remain a polarized individual and continue to promote hatred towards minorities or there is not enough light in upper compartment, I'm inclined to believe the earlier by looking at the history of your comments.Stop lying...you did not agree on anything. You listed bunch of one sided attacks on muslims and tried to insuinate that present Indian govt has hand in it for political gains. But you completely choose to ignore the attacks that have happened to hindus and other communities as well. BTW, the attacks I have listed are all present. Ankit Sharma was beheaded by Tahir Khan, an MLA for Aam admi party. The tailor that got beheaded after Nupur Sharma incident also happened recently. Umar Khalid orchestrated the entire Delhi riots when Trump visited India. I know these are inconvinient details for you and want to turn a blind eye.
BTW, pls don't talk about what has been established in this forum. You just joined the forum few minutes ago, unless you are implying something else
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It’s probably because they are told it’s all propaganda and Modi did nothing of the sort. BBC documentary on his role was also immediately banned there.
That is your opinion. My simple point is there has never been a religious party that governs on religion.
It’s not just my opinion it’s facts. You can check the parties in power and their manifesto and those that were in opposition and you will figure it out.
Not backtracking anything, go through my replies on this thread and you will see.
Every time a person who is remotely muslim or has a muslim sounding name points out something negative as a member of minority group, the RW Hindus stand up and label him pakistani or ISI agent. nobody bats an eye lid.Not backtracking anything, go through my replies on this thread and you will see.
Your reply is towards the support of violence for one group in the name of revenge.
Your reply is always in support of supremacy of one religion group when there are over 200 + million minorites - it has to be hate driven, nothing else explain it.
Many politician daily, when in government, instead of tone down, they amplified bigoty because they can fetch more vote, plenty of non-AI, non-ISI, from Indian media evidence is available.
Many Gujarat murderers were acquitted for killing Muslims.
Even, Modi was acquitted
