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Birmingham woman jailed for duping daughter into forced marriage

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A woman from Birmingham has been jailed for four-and-a-half years for duping her 17-year-old daughter into travelling to Pakistan and forcing her to marry a man 16 years her senior.

The 45-year-old, who cannot be named for legal reasons, and a third charge of perjury. The jury returned a not guilty verdict for a further charge of perverting the course of justice.

The judge, Patrick Thomas QC, told the defendant: “You had cruelly deceived her. She was frightened, alone, held against her will, being forced into a marriage she dreaded. You must have known that was her state of mind. Yet for your own purposes, you drove the marriage through.

“Her courage and respect for the truth throughout these proceedings have been admirable, and are a marked contrast to your own cowardice and deceit, continuing right through this trial and no doubt hereafter.”

He added: “You have sought to blame her for everything, and yourself have accepted responsibility for nothing.”

Thomas explained how the maximum term for forced marriage offences was seven years. But in this case he imposed three-and-a-half years for forced marriage, and one year for perjury.

The defendant’s family listened to the judge’s remarks from the public gallery, but her daughter, whose evidence was crucial to securing the conviction, sat separately.

Before the sentencing, which was unusually attended by eight members of the jury, the prosecuting barrister read out the victim’s impact statement to the packed court. The daughter, now 19, described how she felt her mother had “ditched” her in Pakistan and her disbelief at how she had been treated.

She also used the statement to urge other young women at risk of forced marriage to ask for help and to “say something to someone”.

Prosecutor Deborah Gould said the victim “feels guilty” for taking her mother to court. She said on the daughter’s behalf: “If it wasn’t me in this position could it have been one of my brothers or sisters?” She added: “She was proud of herself for coming to court.”

Christopher Gibbons, defending, said because this was only the second conviction for forced marriage in the UK he was finding it “very difficult” to advise the judge on what sentence he should pass. However, he accepted his client would be receiving a custodial sentence.

The landmark case is the first conviction for forced marriage in England. It is the first time a victim has given evidence against her family in a trial for this type of offence.

During the trial, jurors heard how the woman had promised the troubled teenager a family holiday and bribed her with a phone.

But instead, after taking her to Pakistan, the woman told her daughter on her 18th birthday that she would marry a family relative by whom she had become pregnant on a previous visit in 2012 when she was 13 and he was 29.

Despite her daughter’s pleas that she did not want to marry the 34-year-old Pakistani national, the defendant planned the wedding day for later that month, on 18 September 2016.

Giving evidence, the defendant’s daughter had told Birmingham crown court how she had cried during the wedding and begged her mother not to send her home with the groom after being forced to sign marriage papers.

Her mother later abandoned her in Pakistan before lying under oath to a high court judge in the UK about what had happened.

Earlier in the trial, jurors were told how the mother had betrothed her daughter to her second husband’s nephew on a previous visit to Pakistan in 2012 before the girl fell pregnant.

After the trip the girl’s pregnancy was terminated and she was taken into the care of a children’s home.

Deborah Gould, prosecuting, told jurors the defendant had psychologically and emotionally manipulated her daughter – a vulnerable person with learning disabilities – who craved the affection of her parents and wanted nothing more than the love and approval of her mother.

The NSPCC said it hoped the sentence would show that young victims could come forward and would be supported when they bravely report abuse they have suffered at the hands of their families.

The charity told the Guardian it had held 205 counselling sessions for children concerned about a forced marriage in 2016-17, up from 183 in 2015-16. There were 6,099 visits to the Childline forced marriage online page during the same period.

A spokesman said: “Children as young as 13 have contacted Childline about being forced into marriage yet fearing they will be cut out of their family if they refuse. Forced marriage is a form of child abuse and this case has laid bare the effect it has on young lives.

“The secretive and isolating nature of forced marriage means that it is difficult to grasp the true scale of the problem, but we know that our Childline service counsels hundreds of children.

“We would urge anyone worried about a child to speak up before it is too late, so that we can get help and prevent them being bound into something they would never ask for.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-woman-jailed-duping-daughter-forced-marriage
 
Read about it this morning, personally wish parents like this could be deported. If they think the children should be married over there, then they themselves should be happy to live there.
 
I wonder why we generally hear about such cases from the expat community in one country only



(before you jump on me I'm talking about majority of cases there have obviously been such cases from North America as well)
 
I wonder why we generally hear about such cases from the expat community in one country only



(before you jump on me I'm talking about majority of cases there have obviously been such cases from North America as well)

Why don't you just spit it out? Which community are you talking about?
 
There is a serious crime problem among the Pakistani community in the UK.Every other day you have someone getting caught or jailed for drugs,robbery and different types of assaults
 
Well i am assuming by the traits of the mom from what i have read that she is from rural Punjab. I could be wrong as rural Pakhtuns too have a similar point of view on girls marriages.

In Rural punjab, girl's marriage is a huge deal & source of honor/dishonor of the family. That is why they resort to such tactics thinking "Saadi kuri hath cho baher chali jayegi" or she is gonna marry outside the family/clan etc.

Majority of honor killings happen for this sole reason in these areas and especially in the UK. Almost All had girls objecting to forced marriages or married against parent's wish. This is not a generalization of my community. I wasted a lot of my time among paindoos, I know how rigid & extreme they can get regarding marriage.
 
Well i am assuming by the traits of the mom from what i have read that she is from rural Punjab. I could be wrong as rural Pakhtuns too have a similar point of view on girls marriages.

In Rural punjab, girl's marriage is a huge deal & source of honor/dishonor of the family. That is why they resort to such tactics thinking "Saadi kuri hath cho baher chali jayegi" or she is gonna marry outside the family/clan etc.

Majority of honor killings happen for this sole reason in these areas and especially in the UK. Almost All had girls objecting to forced marriages or married against parent's wish. This is not a generalization of my community. I wasted a lot of my time among paindoos, I know how rigid & extreme they can get regarding marriage.

Generally it is the more rural areas anywhere in Pakistan which produce paindoo mentality, was Punjab among the first generation, probably more Mirpuri following the influx from that area, maybe Pakhtuns after that. Not surprising since paindoo literally means village mentality and usually very basic level of education.

Hopefully now that people are being prosecuted for tricking their offspring ( males included*) this will put a stop to it within a generation. I applaud the British justice system and pressure groups who have led to this action.

* I made a point of including males as due to the sexist nature of reporting on these sensitive topics, they are often ignored while the media focuses only on the girls.
 
Generally it is the more rural areas anywhere in Pakistan which produce paindoo mentality, was Punjab among the first generation, probably more Mirpuri following the influx from that area, maybe Pakhtuns after that. Not surprising since paindoo literally means village mentality and usually very basic level of education.

Hopefully now that people are being prosecuted for tricking their offspring ( males included*) this will put a stop to it within a generation. I applaud the British justice system and pressure groups who have led to this action.

* I made a point of including males as due to the sexist nature of reporting on these sensitive topics, they are often ignored while the media focuses only on the girls.

Yup Happens to males as well. The thing is they are still given leniency on whether they get killed or not for crossing the line/disobeying the parents. On the other hand, if girl crosses the line in such an environment, she gets whacked without second thought.
 
I'm confused. The article mentioned that she was being forced to marry a man who has made her pregnant in the past.

So I can only assume this man raped her in the past and her mum is forcing her to marry her rapist? Sorry if that's a stupid or insensitive qs
 
Yup Happens to males as well. The thing is they are still given leniency on whether they get killed or not for crossing the line/disobeying the parents. On the other hand, if girl crosses the line in such an environment, she gets whacked without second thought.

Is honour killing quite common place among your community? I am from a Punjabi community and it hasn't happened here, so I assumed it was only extreme cases. Generally it's the freshie immigrants from really uneducated backgrounds who put pressure on kids to marry within a caste or tribe, but I don't know of any personally that ended up in the girl being whacked.
 
Is honour killing quite common place among your community? I am from a Punjabi community and it hasn't happened here, so I assumed it was only extreme cases. Generally it's the freshie immigrants from really uneducated backgrounds who put pressure on kids to marry within a caste or tribe, but I don't know of any personally that ended up in the girl being whacked.

Depends on the rural areas. In southern punjab & upper punjab, it is very common and they have other traditions that the panchayat enforces. In central punjab, it exists but it has improved by huge margin now. One of my cousin eloped and she didn't get whacked but she is as good as dead to her family. But at the same time I am 100% sure if our elders were ultra-conservative, they probably would have done something to set the ghairat record straight. Another case i know the girl didn't get whacked but got acid thrown.

However Urban Punjabi folks don't think like this. You might find the odd guy who goes into caste & race stuff but vast majority don't care about castes. You will hear very low instances of such things happening in lahore, faisalabad, islamabad, sialkot etc as opposed to southern or upper belts.
 
Excellent verdict.

The amendments to the laws were very much needed. Yes there are issues in the Pakistani community in the UK but these issues come a fresh off the boat mentality and the vast majority of the parents who force such marriages on their children were born in Pakistan. Its fair to assume this happens in Pakistan (rest of the sub continent too)all the time in all areas of Pakistan but they dont have the same laws as we now do here in the UK.

This a Pakistani mentality issue not a British one.
 
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