Blame the system and management of the PCB, not the clueless players

[FearlessRoar]

The Pakistan cricket team's struggles are often blamed on the players, but the truth is that the PCB's system and management are responsible.

A cricket board's main job is to find and develop new talent into top players. Cricket Australia's success with Steve Smith, who went from an average spin bowler to a great batter, shows that a good system works.

Similarly, the ECB's investment in young players has produced greats like Joe Root and Ben Stokes, who were once new but are now legends.

In contrast, the PCB's system has failed to develop talent due to poor programs, bad decisions, and a lack of planning. The board's focus on building a player pool from the PSL, rather than strengthening the domestic structure, has left players unprepared for international cricket.

Usman Khawaja, an Australian batter of Pakistani descent, has been vocal in numerous interviews about the need for stability within the PCB.

The PCB's management makes poor decisions, with frequent changes in coaches, selectors, and team management. This instability hurts player morale and performance. To fix Pakistan cricket, the PCB must admit its mistakes and fix the system. It's clear that 90% of the blame lies with the system and management, and only 10% with the players. We need to stop blaming players and fix the system.

 

[shortbread]

Agreed with what you're saying, BUT the players also share some of the blame for being more committed to their T20 mercenary careers than being focused on being full time multi format international cricketers.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Agreed with what you're saying, BUT the players also share some of the blame for being more committed to their T20 mercenary careers than being focused on being full time multi format international cricketers.

It's also due to a useless system and poor management. Actually we can say lack of discipline in the system.

 

[shortbread]

It's also due to a useless system and poor management. Actually we can say lack of discipline in the system.

Not just that, but players finding comfort in the ease of T20 league cricket where they do not need to push themselves physically or maintain the harsh discipline to be an international cricketer, and showing little intent in improving themselves in the longer formats of the game. Many of these individual choices were taken with selfish motives than for the betterment of Pakistan cricket. For eg. the nations premier batsman Babar Azam now looks like a soft toy version of himself. The players definitely need to accept blame for that, but yes in the grand scheme of things this mess is primarily down to PCB's incompetence.

 

[Devadwal]

No Pakistan fans are habbit of blaming PCB rather than PCT players

Not a single reason why PCT not won the series due to PCB management.

They dropped Shaheen as fans were wanted but at the end Pakistan lost the series 2-0 .

Babar is avarage player but PCT fans are hyping him too much. he is at best play supportive role in ODI formats thats it.

Reason why Pakistan are/ were losing home test series because they dont have any quality spinner's.

From 22-6 Bangladesh' scored 260+ , all thanks to useless, overhyped Abrar Ahmed.

Untill Pakistan don't find quality spinners they will lose series at home regularly .

 

[Rana]

Yeah I guess the management is wrong for hiring Kirsten and Gillespie, which lead to Babar scoring 40 off 40 against USA

 

[FearlessRoar]

Not just that, but players finding comfort in the ease of T20 league cricket where they do not need to push themselves physically or maintain the harsh discipline to be an international cricketer, and showing little intent in improving themselves in the longer formats of the game. Many of these individual choices were taken with selfish motives than for the betterment of Pakistan cricket. For eg. the nations premier batsman Babar Azam now looks like a soft toy version of himself. The players definitely need to accept blame for that, but yes in the grand scheme of things this mess is primarily down to PCB's incompetence.

Well said bro. and we know about those players, don't we? Imad Wasim and Mohammad Amir - it's crystal clear that they don't want to play for Pakistan anymore. So, why were we begging them to play for us? Why didn't we produce a long-term replacement for them?

 

[zaidihusain]

The Pakistan cricket team's struggles are often blamed on the players, but the truth is that the PCB's system and management are responsible.

A cricket board's main job is to find and develop new talent into top players. Cricket Australia's success with Steve Smith, who went from an average spin bowler to a great batter, shows that a good system works.

Similarly, the ECB's investment in young players has produced greats like Joe Root and Ben Stokes, who were once new but are now legends.

In contrast, the PCB's system has failed to develop talent due to poor programs, bad decisions, and a lack of planning. The board's focus on building a player pool from the PSL, rather than strengthening the domestic structure, has left players unprepared for international cricket.

Usman Khawaja, an Australian batter of Pakistani descent, has been vocal in numerous interviews about the need for stability within the PCB.

The PCB's management makes poor decisions, with frequent changes in coaches, selectors, and team management. This instability hurts player morale and performance. To fix Pakistan cricket, the PCB must admit its mistakes and fix the system. It's clear that 90% of the blame lies with the system and management, and only 10% with the players. We need to stop blaming players and fix the system.

PCB must be blamed but the players who got consistent opportunities and all facilities since last 5-8 years must accept bigger blame. If you see 80% of the players like Babar, Shan, Shadab, Rizwan, Fakhar, Shaheen, Naseem, Haris Rauf, Iftekhar, Imam are in setup since last 5-10 years and most of them were first choice players in the team.

During last 4-5 years careers of many players were destroyed or cut short because of clear favoritism and inconsistent section policies. I have added year of debut against each player, and you can check these players have played most of matches without getting dropped unless injured.

Babar (2015), Iftekhar (2015), Shan (2013), Rizwan (2015), Fakhar (2017), Imam (2017), Shaheen (2018), Shadab (2017), Naseem (2019), Haris Rauf (2020)

I don't believe these players have any right to blame PCB for their failures

 

[RidiculousMan]

The Pakistan cricket team's struggles are often blamed on the players, but the truth is that the PCB's system and management are responsible.

A cricket board's main job is to find and develop new talent into top players. Cricket Australia's success with Steve Smith, who went from an average spin bowler to a great batter, shows that a good system works.

Similarly, the ECB's investment in young players has produced greats like Joe Root and Ben Stokes, who were once new but are now legends.

In contrast, the PCB's system has failed to develop talent due to poor programs, bad decisions, and a lack of planning. The board's focus on building a player pool from the PSL, rather than strengthening the domestic structure, has left players unprepared for international cricket.

Usman Khawaja, an Australian batter of Pakistani descent, has been vocal in numerous interviews about the need for stability within the PCB.

The PCB's management makes poor decisions, with frequent changes in coaches, selectors, and team management. This instability hurts player morale and performance. To fix Pakistan cricket, the PCB must admit its mistakes and fix the system. It's clear that 90% of the blame lies with the system and management, and only 10% with the players. We need to stop blaming players and fix the system.

Rightly said.

Always the players come under knife. The government, the state, PCB executives and the bureaucracy within stay or just shuffle positions.

1. Who made Babar captain, then removed him, then brought Shaheen, then removed Shaheen to bring Babar again? Who created this rift between them?
2. Who misdiagnosed Ihsanullah and many other pacers who are still in rehab?
3. Who is responsible for hiring Dr. Sohail again after knowing his track record with players in PCB?
4. Who was leaking the captain's messages and running campaigns through 2 cents journalists during Pakistan's 2023 World Cup campaign?
5. Who did corruption during the tickets sale during Pakistan v New Zealand series and before that?
6. Who fast tracked Shaheen when he got injured the first time and hasn't been able to achieve full fitness yet?
7. Who makes our pacers who get injured drop their pace by 5-10KPHs while other countries continue to rehab their pacers successfully without dropping the pace? E.g. Archer and Bumrah.
8. Who fails to address bowling mechanic problems early on and domestic Cricket. Allowing players like Usman Tariq to play PSL first, then call on his action mid way before making him clear and play play-offs. With the end result being that he is now not allowed to bowl in domestic, not getting selected in the Champions Cup?
9. Who changes the domestic structure every season?
10. Who allows Chairman PCB to come unopposed, un-elected everytime?
11. Who doesn't ask Chairman PCB to layout a clear roadmap and vision for Pakistan Cricket after first ensuring him of his tenure duration?
12. Who makes the two league NOC policy, allows player to participate in that many leagues and then restrict the players or make them pull out during the league all while damaging the player's relation with the league?
13. Who brings new coach every few months or other events?
14. Who allows player to slack under fitness and make compromises to keep players in?
15. Who runs the actual things in National High Performance center and goes accountable every time?
16. Who is always planning and conspiring to change captain before, during and after every series/event?

 

[Cricket Warrior]

failure of this system causing all these issues because its working like a factory from where we are getting all these players so we have to concentrate on the production level and fix the issues there not on the management level.

 

[FearlessRoar]

PCB must be blamed but the players who got consistent opportunities and all facilities since last 5-8 years must accept bigger blame. If you see 80% of the players like Babar, Shan, Shadab, Rizwan, Fakhar, Shaheen, Naseem, Haris Rauf, Iftekhar, Imam are in setup since last 5-10 years and most of them were first choice players in the team.

During last 4-5 years careers of many players were destroyed or cut short because of clear favoritism and inconsistent section policies. I have added year of debut against each player, and you can check these players have played most of matches without getting dropped unless injured.

Babar (2015), Iftekhar (2015), Shan (2013), Rizwan (2015), Fakhar (2017), Imam (2017), Shaheen (2018), Shadab (2017), Naseem (2019), Haris Rauf (2020)

I don't believe these players have any right to blame PCB for their failures

I'll still blame the system because PCB gave them consistent chances without accountability. For example, Haris Rauf is a mediocre bowler but got polished in between 2021-2022. Then again, the same poor performance because PCB was not holding him accountable. PCB even reinstated his central contract due to pressure from just a franchise of PSL. PCB didn't focus on the fitness of players. They just said, whatever is going on is fine, boys have talent. PCB has no clear policy whoever feels like playing Test cricket plays and whoever doesn't, doesn't. In T20I cricket, we have players, but in ODIs and Tests, we don't have players.

PCB has no policy which raw product to pick from where and how to prepare them for which format, what process to follow, and how to make its implementation mandatory.

Whatever needs to be fixed is the system and management. We are always told to fix the grassroots level but the real problem is the system and management.

 

[ghalib kichlu]

Wasim khan quit
Ramiz raja wasnt good enough
Sethi was only a journalist

Similarly we keep going back to Arthur and azhar every 6 months when things go bad again

 

[FearlessRoar]

Rightly said.

Always the players come under knife. The government, the state, PCB executives and the bureaucracy within stay or just shuffle positions.

1. Who made Babar captain, then removed him, then brought Shaheen, then removed Shaheen to bring Babar again? Who created this rift between them?
2. Who misdiagnosed Ihsanullah and many other pacers who are still in rehab?
3. Who is responsible for hiring Dr. Sohail again after knowing his track record with players in PCB?
4. Who was leaking the captain's messages and running campaigns through 2 cents journalists during Pakistan's 2023 World Cup campaign?
5. Who did corruption during the tickets sale during Pakistan v New Zealand series and before that?
6. Who fast tracked Shaheen when he got injured the first time and hasn't been able to achieve full fitness yet?
7. Who makes our pacers who get injured drop their pace by 5-10KPHs while other countries continue to rehab their pacers successfully without dropping the pace? E.g. Archer and Bumrah.
8. Who fails to address bowling mechanic problems early on and domestic Cricket. Allowing players like Usman Tariq to play PSL first, then call on his action mid way before making him clear and play play-offs. With the end result being that he is now not allowed to bowl in domestic, not getting selected in the Champions Cup?
9. Who changes the domestic structure every season?
10. Who allows Chairman PCB to come unopposed, un-elected everytime?
11. Who doesn't ask Chairman PCB to layout a clear roadmap and vision for Pakistan Cricket after first ensuring him of his tenure duration?
12. Who makes the two league NOC policy, allows player to participate in that many leagues and then restrict the players or make them pull out during the league all while damaging the player's relation with the league?
13. Who brings new coach every few months or other events?
14. Who allows player to slack under fitness and make compromises to keep players in?
15. Who runs the actual things in National High Performance center and goes accountable every time?
16. Who is always planning and conspiring to change captain before, during and after every series/event?

Bro you've done a great job categorizing the issues.Your summary accurately pinpoints the key problems and shedding light on the underlying disease that's been plaguing Pakistan cricket.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

The Pakistan cricket team's struggles are often blamed on the players, but the truth is that the PCB's system and management are responsible.

A cricket board's main job is to find and develop new talent into top players. Cricket Australia's success with Steve Smith, who went from an average spin bowler to a great batter, shows that a good system works.

Similarly, the ECB's investment in young players has produced greats like Joe Root and Ben Stokes, who were once new but are now legends.

In contrast, the PCB's system has failed to develop talent due to poor programs, bad decisions, and a lack of planning. The board's focus on building a player pool from the PSL, rather than strengthening the domestic structure, has left players unprepared for international cricket.

Usman Khawaja, an Australian batter of Pakistani descent, has been vocal in numerous interviews about the need for stability within the PCB.

The PCB's management makes poor decisions, with frequent changes in coaches, selectors, and team management. This instability hurts player morale and performance. To fix Pakistan cricket, the PCB must admit its mistakes and fix the system. It's clear that 90% of the blame lies with the system and management, and only 10% with the players. We need to stop blaming players and fix the system.

The players are clueless and need to be blamed as well. Did anyone ask Bahar and company to eat everything in India, go to howdy Texas IN US and behave like unleashed tourists?

 

[mominsaigol]

Well the Management is 100% at fault.

They appointed Misbah who burnt the t20 side into a corpse and made Babar captain

Then came ramiz who burnt domestic cricket

Then came naqvi who burnt everything into the ground.

Don't forget Imran Khan as well

 

[Misia]

Players are now exploiting that bad/corrupt system so now we have a vicious cycle where petty much 90/95% is working to exploit for its personal gain

 

[Rana]

Well the Management is 100% at fault.

They appointed Misbah who burnt the t20 side into a corpse and made Babar captain

Then came ramiz who burnt domestic cricket

Then came naqvi who burnt everything into the ground.

Don't forget Imran Khan as well

Wasim Khan is getting away Scot free here.

He’s played a HUGE role in this player power and overhyping player issue you have right now

 

[mominsaigol]

Wasim Khan is getting away Scot free here.

He’s played a HUGE role in this player power and overhyping player issue you have right now

Yeah him too

 

[Misia]

Time to get really strict
3 SEPERATE CAPATAINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Red Ball Domestic structure comes first
NOC only if you play RED BALL DOMESTIC (tied in with all centrally contracted players)
PSL will not guarantee selection UNLESS THEY LOOK AT FORCING THEM TO USE PLAYERS FROM WITHIN PAKISTAN YOUNGER GENERATION MORE, so far, the owners/teams/captains want to win and we get the run of the mill foreign players the usual star players and odd new player, decrease both foreign and usual stars increase new players in a way that the must use the new players batting bowling

 

[zaidihusain]

I'll still blame the system because PCB gave them consistent chances without accountability. For example, Haris Rauf is a mediocre bowler but got polished in between 2021-2022. Then again, the same poor performance because PCB was not holding him accountable. PCB even reinstated his central contract due to pressure from just a franchise of PSL. PCB didn't focus on the fitness of players. They just said, whatever is going on is fine, boys have talent. PCB has no clear policy whoever feels like playing Test cricket plays and whoever doesn't, doesn't. In T20I cricket, we have players, but in ODIs and Tests, we don't have players.

PCB has no policy which raw product to pick from where and how to prepare them for which format, what process to follow, and how to make its implementation mandatory.

Whatever needs to be fixed is the system and management. We are always told to fix the grassroots level but the real problem is the system and management.

Agree. The biggest failure of PCB was providing free ride to many undeserving players who failed repeatedly. PCB has failed to take timely action on certain players and it has also failed to control player power. Yes, they also have no policy for player development from grassroot level

 

[FearlessRoar]

The real issue lies with the Pakistan Cricket Board's dysfunctional system and management

Since August 2021, we've had four different chairmen, each bringing their own brand of chaos. Ramiz Raja, Najam Sethi, Zaka Ashraf, and now Mohsin Naqvi have all contributed to the mess. It's like a never-ending game of musical chairs, with each new chairman undoing the work of the previous one.

The result? A team in disarray, with no clear direction or strategy. We've had multiple head coaches, selectors, and support staff, each with their own ideas and agendas. No wonder our players look confused and frazzled.

The PCB's obsession with change has meant that entire coaching systems and strategies have been discarded like trash. Misbah-ul-Haq, Saqlain Mushtaq, Mickey Arthur, and Mohammad Hafeez have all had their stints as head coach, but with no consistency or continuity.

And don't even get me started on the selectors. We've had a revolving door of chief selectors, including Shahid Afridi, Haroon Rasheed, and Wahab Riaz. No wonder we've used more players than any other team since August 2021.

The players are not the problem. it's the system that's failing them. Babar Azam and Shaheen Afridi, two of our most valuable players, have been unsettled by the constant changes.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Nothing to do with PCB or anything , Our youth is no longer interested in cricket anymore due to the lack of chances to earn well and progress well as a junior cricketer plus in this sport favoritism and nepotism also makes things difficult for youth players plus people can't afford to send their kids to cricket academies when they have no food on the table.

 

[gibsyhesperis]

Rightly said.

Always the players come under knife. The government, the state, PCB executives and the bureaucracy within stay or just shuffle positions.

1. Who made Babar captain, then removed him, then brought Shaheen, then removed Shaheen to bring Babar again? Who created this rift between them?
2. Who misdiagnosed Ihsanullah and many other pacers who are still in rehab?
3. Who is responsible for hiring Dr. Sohail again after knowing his track record with players in PCB?
4. Who was leaking the captain's messages and running campaigns through 2 cents journalists during Pakistan's 2023 World Cup campaign?
5. Who did corruption during the tickets sale during Pakistan v New Zealand series and before that?
6. Who fast tracked Shaheen when he got injured the first time and hasn't been able to achieve full fitness yet?
7. Who makes our pacers who get injured drop their pace by 5-10KPHs while other countries continue to rehab their pacers successfully without dropping the pace? E.g. Archer and Bumrah.
8. Who fails to address bowling mechanic problems early on and domestic Cricket. Allowing players like Usman Tariq to play PSL first, then call on his action mid way before making him clear and play play-offs. With the end result being that he is now not allowed to bowl in domestic, not getting selected in the Champions Cup?
9. Who changes the domestic structure every season?
10. Who allows Chairman PCB to come unopposed, un-elected everytime?
11. Who doesn't ask Chairman PCB to layout a clear roadmap and vision for Pakistan Cricket after first ensuring him of his tenure duration?
12. Who makes the two league NOC policy, allows player to participate in that many leagues and then restrict the players or make them pull out during the league all while damaging the player's relation with the league?
13. Who brings new coach every few months or other events?
14. Who allows player to slack under fitness and make compromises to keep players in?
15. Who runs the actual things in National High Performance center and goes accountable every time?
16. Who is always planning and conspiring to change captain before, during and after every series/event?

Excellent summary — the PCB is now as inept as the West Indies board were a while ago.
It is no surprise the players are insecure, play for themselves annd are always looking over their shoulders.

To be honest, a dysfunctional board in a country that has been somewhat dysfunctional for years.
Add to this list the Champions Trophy — a ridiculous vanity project from the current Chair where mentors are allegedly paid a huge sum for no good reason.
Why does each new Chair feel they have to do something to prove “their legacy” ?
Just think what that money could have done to improve grassroots cricket, go to the regions etc

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Rightly said.

Always the players come under knife. The government, the state, PCB executives and the bureaucracy within stay or just shuffle positions.

1. Who made Babar captain, then removed him, then brought Shaheen, then removed Shaheen to bring Babar again? Who created this rift between them?
2. Who misdiagnosed Ihsanullah and many other pacers who are still in rehab?
3. Who is responsible for hiring Dr. Sohail again after knowing his track record with players in PCB?
4. Who was leaking the captain's messages and running campaigns through 2 cents journalists during Pakistan's 2023 World Cup campaign?
5. Who did corruption during the tickets sale during Pakistan v New Zealand series and before that?
6. Who fast tracked Shaheen when he got injured the first time and hasn't been able to achieve full fitness yet?
7. Who makes our pacers who get injured drop their pace by 5-10KPHs while other countries continue to rehab their pacers successfully without dropping the pace? E.g. Archer and Bumrah.
8. Who fails to address bowling mechanic problems early on and domestic Cricket. Allowing players like Usman Tariq to play PSL first, then call on his action mid way before making him clear and play play-offs. With the end result being that he is now not allowed to bowl in domestic, not getting selected in the Champions Cup?
9. Who changes the domestic structure every season?
10. Who allows Chairman PCB to come unopposed, un-elected everytime?
11. Who doesn't ask Chairman PCB to layout a clear roadmap and vision for Pakistan Cricket after first ensuring him of his tenure duration?
12. Who makes the two league NOC policy, allows player to participate in that many leagues and then restrict the players or make them pull out during the league all while damaging the player's relation with the league?
13. Who brings new coach every few months or other events?
14. Who allows player to slack under fitness and make compromises to keep players in?
15. Who runs the actual things in National High Performance center and goes accountable every time?
16. Who is always planning and conspiring to change captain before, during and after every series/event?

PCB is just too pathetic. How can they fix cricket in Pakistan as they are not the doctors but the disease plaguing PCT

 

[zarak]

The Pakistan cricket team's struggles are often blamed on the players, but the truth is that the PCB's system and management are responsible.

A cricket board's main job is to find and develop new talent into top players. Cricket Australia's success with Steve Smith, who went from an average spin bowler to a great batter, shows that a good system works.

Similarly, the ECB's investment in young players has produced greats like Joe Root and Ben Stokes, who were once new but are now legends.

In contrast, the PCB's system has failed to develop talent due to poor programs, bad decisions, and a lack of planning. The board's focus on building a player pool from the PSL, rather than strengthening the domestic structure, has left players unprepared for international cricket.

Usman Khawaja, an Australian batter of Pakistani descent, has been vocal in numerous interviews about the need for stability within the PCB.

The PCB's management makes poor decisions, with frequent changes in coaches, selectors, and team management. This instability hurts player morale and performance. To fix Pakistan cricket, the PCB must admit its mistakes and fix the system. It's clear that 90% of the blame lies with the system and management, and only 10% with the players. We need to stop blaming players and fix the system.

Shaheen Afridi was nurtured, Babar was nurtured, Shadab was nurtured, Nawaz was nurtured. These guys have been coming to the NCA from their early teens. Who told them not to evolve their skill sets. Why has Babar not evolved beyond minnow bashing and run a ball fifties. Why is Shaheen bowling 130kph full tosses, why has Shadab deteriorated to the point that he is just a pie chucker.

These guys have been given chances but they lack the mentality and humility to build on their initial success. Only good for Panther Tires.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

PCB is just too pathetic. How can they fix cricket in Pakistan as they are not the doctors but the disease plaguing PCT

bhai they aren't just doctors... they are surgeons and a major surgery is about to happen in the year 2045.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

bhai they aren't just doctors... they are surgeons and a major surgery is about to happen in the year 2045.

Mohsin Naqvi's grandson will oversee it

 

[pakistani pride]

No excuse for being unfit.
Babar and Naseem, the 2 so called best bat and bowler are unfit and fitness is regressing big time of both.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Speaking during a recent media interaction, Younis Khan said:

"Departmental cricket has always supported players. I myself was able to play cricket because of UBL. The PCB needs to work on reviving departmental cricket, alongside promoting club cricket."

"It feels like sometimes the PCB doesn’t know its own identity. Even grocery vendors and fruit sellers know who should be the captain and coach, but it seems like the PCB doesn’t."

"Players like me shouldn’t be kept away from the PCB. I’m willing to train players for free if it helps improve the domestic structure."